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On July 07 2015 20:28 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 12:46 ruXxar wrote:On July 06 2015 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
What has been said about clarity? The way that he hard defended holy fire and then used "but a mafia wouldn't do this" to excuse his actions. I think that sounds pre-planned. I got a scum vibe off that. This guy is town hero btw, I think I already said so. Found this looking for the clarity/WoS thing. But to be fair, WoS did try to somewhat defend Clarity. Although I don't know if that's exactly what marv meant with his thing.
My point is this. So Clarity voted Wave at some stage.
Wave originally said "clarity is town, tryhard as fuck"
later when asked to elaborate on the read by HF, he said Narp
The effort feels towny
That's all that Wave says on Clarity.
Clarity goes on to unvote Wave because "he talked a little about his townread on me" so he doens't like the lynch?
How on earth is that Wave talking about the townread at all?
This is the original reason Clarity voted Wave:
On July 06 2015 08:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
geript, still happy with your vote? Would love to have some reasoning.
In the mean time, WoS gave me a very lazy townread. I'd like to think I always look townie but not a lot of people seem to agree at this point so it smells like he has extra info.
##Vote WaveOfShadow
And then Clarity unvotes Wave because Wave says "narp not gonna elaborate" with the explanation that Wave explains the read ?
Really?
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Also, worth noting:
I'm fine with jumping a Trfel vote train, too.
I'm fine with a WaveOfShadow lynch. He's not contributing at all, his filter is lackluster, he's engaging in a discussion about effort but refuses to put any effort in himself.
Concluding, top scum reads:
clarity_nl (voted on)
WaveOfShadow
Trfel
Holyflare
My read on HF is admittedly the weakest because it's a lot of #tinfoilhat stuff.
Trfel is on the brink on martyring and made a claim that isn't too great, however I'd prefer to not lynch into un-cc'ed blue.
WaveOfShadow has not put in any effort, spits out oneliners and is not contributing at all.
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Why is hf bussing trfel boxer?
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2015 20:35 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 20:28 Palmar wrote:On July 06 2015 12:46 ruXxar wrote:On July 06 2015 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
What has been said about clarity? The way that he hard defended holy fire and then used "but a mafia wouldn't do this" to excuse his actions. I think that sounds pre-planned. I got a scum vibe off that. This guy is town hero btw, I think I already said so. Found this looking for the clarity/WoS thing. But to be fair, WoS did try to somewhat defend Clarity. Although I don't know if that's exactly what marv meant with his thing. My point is this. So Clarity voted Wave at some stage. Wave originally said "clarity is town, tryhard as fuck" later when asked to elaborate on the read by HF, he said That's all that Wave says on Clarity. Clarity goes on to unvote Wave because "he talked a little about his townread on me" so he doens't like the lynch? How on earth is that Wave talking about the townread at all? This is the original reason Clarity voted Wave: Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
geript, still happy with your vote? Would love to have some reasoning.
In the mean time, WoS gave me a very lazy townread. I'd like to think I always look townie but not a lot of people seem to agree at this point so it smells like he has extra info.
##Vote WaveOfShadow And then Clarity unvotes Wave because Wave says "narp not gonna elaborate" with the explanation that Wave explains the read ? Really? ...
Are you saying clarity is scum and in a team with WoS and they're playing pretty badly? Or are you "only" saying that clarity's unvote does not make any sense, is weak and has no reasoning? What's your conclusion?
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Gonna do it in quotes because my explanation is sucks. tldr; this progression makes no sense
On July 06 2015 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote:On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup! Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic? it's cool i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy I dare you to say you can still read trfel after we destroyed town that other game. Me on the other hand... In other news clarity tryhard as fuck, probably town.
On July 06 2015 08:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
geript, still happy with your vote? Would love to have some reasoning.
In the mean time, WoS gave me a very lazy townread. I'd like to think I always look townie but not a lot of people seem to agree at this point so it smells like he has extra info.
##Vote WaveOfShadow
On July 06 2015 11:09 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 10:59 Holyflare wrote:
so gonna explain your clarity statement wave? Narp The effort feels towny
On July 06 2015 23:24 Clarity_nl wrote:
Going over WoS again and he talked a little about his townread on me I don't like him as a lynch at the moment.
##Unvote
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On July 07 2015 20:18 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 20:14 marvellosity wrote:
Wave isn't a bad lynch. I can't point to a single post in his filter that i don't think he could easily make as mafia.
anyone agree/disagree? Didn't know wave was playing but he was really obvious mafia last time I played with him, I'll actually read some.
yeah wave wasnt really obvious mafia the last time I played with him, which was like 2 weeks ago.
I even claimed a redcheck on him, he still didnt get lynched.
So wave is good as mafia and good as town.
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On July 07 2015 20:40 boxerfred wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2015 20:35 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 20:28 Palmar wrote:On July 06 2015 12:46 ruXxar wrote:On July 06 2015 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
What has been said about clarity? The way that he hard defended holy fire and then used "but a mafia wouldn't do this" to excuse his actions. I think that sounds pre-planned. I got a scum vibe off that. This guy is town hero btw, I think I already said so. Found this looking for the clarity/WoS thing. But to be fair, WoS did try to somewhat defend Clarity. Although I don't know if that's exactly what marv meant with his thing. My point is this. So Clarity voted Wave at some stage. Wave originally said "clarity is town, tryhard as fuck" later when asked to elaborate on the read by HF, he said That's all that Wave says on Clarity. Clarity goes on to unvote Wave because "he talked a little about his townread on me" so he doens't like the lynch? How on earth is that Wave talking about the townread at all? This is the original reason Clarity voted Wave: Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
geript, still happy with your vote? Would love to have some reasoning.
In the mean time, WoS gave me a very lazy townread. I'd like to think I always look townie but not a lot of people seem to agree at this point so it smells like he has extra info.
##Vote WaveOfShadow And then Clarity unvotes Wave because Wave says "narp not gonna elaborate" with the explanation that Wave explains the read ? Really? ... Are you saying clarity is scum and in a team with WoS and they're playing pretty badly? Or are you "only" saying that clarity's unvote does not make any sense, is weak and has no reasoning? What's your conclusion?
so look at the 4 quotes i just posted in order.
Clarity votes in post #2.
Wave's only comment on Clarity afterwards is #3
Clarity unvotes in #4, look at the reason.
it's nonsensical.
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Now I'm back and catching up again. Reading through (should have an answer for you soon milo)...
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On July 07 2015 20:35 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 20:28 Palmar wrote:On July 06 2015 12:46 ruXxar wrote:On July 06 2015 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
What has been said about clarity? The way that he hard defended holy fire and then used "but a mafia wouldn't do this" to excuse his actions. I think that sounds pre-planned. I got a scum vibe off that. This guy is town hero btw, I think I already said so. Found this looking for the clarity/WoS thing. But to be fair, WoS did try to somewhat defend Clarity. Although I don't know if that's exactly what marv meant with his thing. My point is this. So Clarity voted Wave at some stage. Wave originally said "clarity is town, tryhard as fuck" later when asked to elaborate on the read by HF, he said That's all that Wave says on Clarity. Clarity goes on to unvote Wave because "he talked a little about his townread on me" so he doens't like the lynch? How on earth is that Wave talking about the townread at all? ...
So, I'm just jumping back and forth so my timeline may be off, and tbh I'm mostly doing this to force you to double check yourself, but I think he's talking about this:
On July 06 2015 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
What has been said about clarity?
On July 06 2015 12:46 ruXxar wrote:The way that he hard defended holy fire and then used "but a mafia wouldn't do this" to excuse his actions. I think that sounds pre-planned. I got a scum vibe off that.
On July 06 2015 12:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
'Pre planned' is dumb
Nobody actually does that
On July 06 2015 12:55 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 12:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
'Pre planned' is dumb
Nobody actually does that It's kinda like avoiding the topic though. If someone asks you why you said something and your response is "I wouldn't say that as mafia", then that seems more like a last line of defense rather than explaining why you actually said something.
On July 06 2015 12:59 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 12:55 ruXxar wrote:On July 06 2015 12:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
'Pre planned' is dumb
Nobody actually does that It's kinda like avoiding the topic though. If someone asks you why you said something and your response is "I wouldn't say that as mafia", then that seems more like a last line of defense rather than explaining why you actually said something. There's a difference between saying 'I wouldn't do this as mafia' and 'mafia wouldn't do this' in general. One is self meta and super shit. One is actually attempting to think. reading his post I actually don't think I know which that is
On July 06 2015 13:03 ruXxar wrote:
Do you find it strange that he's scum reading you for town reading him?
On July 06 2015 13:04 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 13:03 ruXxar wrote:
Do you find it strange that he's scum reading you for town reading him? Not particularly
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ah fuck. i didn't think those posts related to clarity.
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On July 07 2015 20:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is hf bussing trfel boxer?
Where am I saying that? Assuming you mean this here:
...Instead, my tinfoilhat senses tell me that he throws that out, wanting people to exactly think what HF just said. like, "you wouldn't do that as mafia". Erm, of course you would. That's the same thought that is behind bussing a teammate. Do something that seemingly does not make sense for your alignment, wait for some naive town to point it out (or a teammate to point it out if no town member does it) and boom, there you go. ...
I'm not saying I'm bussing, all it is is a comparison. Is that enough or should I elaborate?
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yes you are done with your momentary lapse of madness.
Good.
I could very easily lynch clarity.
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ok i totally retract this entire line of reasoning
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I could need some help reading WoS - asked this last night, will ask again in case anyone here knows him better than I do -
On July 07 2015 09:10 Half the Sky wrote:
Going through WoS and LS filters again...
Those of you that know WoS, are there any general town or scum tells I should be on the lookout for? I have never played with him and reading his filter, nothing is jumping out at me as particularly scummy except for his more or less afk vote on Holyflare.
I'm not sure where that vote came from tbh, can't tell if it was tone or whatnot.
If you took that out, I'd probably given him a null to slight townlean for some of the posts in his filter, but if he's been around awhile, he probably could replicate that as scum.
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On July 07 2015 20:43 boxerfred wrote:Where am I saying that? Assuming you mean this here: Show nested quote +...Instead, my tinfoilhat senses tell me that he throws that out, wanting people to exactly think what HF just said. like, "you wouldn't do that as mafia". Erm, of course you would. That's the same thought that is behind bussing a teammate. Do something that seemingly does not make sense for your alignment, wait for some naive town to point it out (or a teammate to point it out if no town member does it) and boom, there you go. ... I'm not saying I'm bussing, all it is is a comparison. Is that enough or should I elaborate?
well they are both in your scumlist and you didnt say that if one was mafia the other was town.
Is that the case?
Can they both be mafia together?
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i just looked at his posts on the 2nd page and none were in response to Clarity and i didn't see the name Clarity so i assumed they were about something else.
oh well.
back to my pit
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On July 07 2015 20:41 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 20:40 boxerfred wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2015 20:35 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 20:28 Palmar wrote:On July 06 2015 12:46 ruXxar wrote:On July 06 2015 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
What has been said about clarity? The way that he hard defended holy fire and then used "but a mafia wouldn't do this" to excuse his actions. I think that sounds pre-planned. I got a scum vibe off that. This guy is town hero btw, I think I already said so. Found this looking for the clarity/WoS thing. But to be fair, WoS did try to somewhat defend Clarity. Although I don't know if that's exactly what marv meant with his thing. My point is this. So Clarity voted Wave at some stage. Wave originally said "clarity is town, tryhard as fuck" later when asked to elaborate on the read by HF, he said That's all that Wave says on Clarity. Clarity goes on to unvote Wave because "he talked a little about his townread on me" so he doens't like the lynch? How on earth is that Wave talking about the townread at all? This is the original reason Clarity voted Wave: Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
geript, still happy with your vote? Would love to have some reasoning.
In the mean time, WoS gave me a very lazy townread. I'd like to think I always look townie but not a lot of people seem to agree at this point so it smells like he has extra info.
##Vote WaveOfShadow And then Clarity unvotes Wave because Wave says "narp not gonna elaborate" with the explanation that Wave explains the read ? Really? ... Are you saying clarity is scum and in a team with WoS and they're playing pretty badly? Or are you "only" saying that clarity's unvote does not make any sense, is weak and has no reasoning? What's your conclusion? so look at the 4 quotes i just posted in order. Clarity votes in post #2. Wave's only comment on Clarity afterwards is #3 Clarity unvotes in #4, look at the reason. it's nonsensical.
Yes! But that being nonsensicel is "only" the observation. There's no conclusion. Like, if you say, "my window is wet", you observe it. The conclusion would be "well, it's raining". So what's your conclusion? Scum? Bad town play? Especially in light of the points I brought up against him earlier.
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well no marv, wos still doesnt explain his townread.
On July 06 2015 12:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
There's a difference between saying 'I wouldn't do this as mafia' and 'mafia wouldn't do this' in general.
One is self meta and super shit.
One is actually attempting to think.
reading his post I actually don't think I know which that is
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This may be remembered as the worst read in the history of TL but the fact marv didn't bother to actually fact check that his case wasn't complete and utter shit makes me think he's probably town.
I'm literally giving him a townread for failing 
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Alright, that clarity vote/unvote is a good catch. I'll check that area of the thread, and his filter as well and see if anything else pops up...
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