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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:05 GMT
#8027
On July 20 2015 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Some combination of his opening saying if vivax is scum that means geript is scum is an observation that I don't really see coming from scum. His whiny "holier than thou" attitude, his "woe is me" shit about no one listening to him. Like it all feels like a mediocre town player with a huge ego. Don't really see why scum would draw attention to themselves like that.


lol not really sure why this means anything again?

you think a town player really forgets his strongest townread?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:14 GMT
#8034
On July 20 2015 00:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 20 2015 00:05 rsoultin wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Some combination of his opening saying if vivax is scum that means geript is scum is an observation that I don't really see coming from scum. His whiny "holier than thou" attitude, his "woe is me" shit about no one listening to him. Like it all feels like a mediocre town player with a huge ego. Don't really see why scum would draw attention to themselves like that.


lol not really sure why this means anything again?

you think a town player really forgets his strongest townread?


You think a scum player does? Like you're harping on this a lot but it seems like you're using a dumbtell as a scumtell.

And yeah I think drawing unnecessary attention to yourself is more likely to come from town, the same with the bluehunting. Like yeah you name your smurf bluehunter and then roll scum, MAYBE you decide to bluehunt in thread but that just doesnt seem necessary.


actually, yes. i've seen scum players completely forget their reads, clarity xP rayn did it in XXX

it's not that he forgot
it's that he forgot, said hf should be shot, then called him town again for the exact same reason that existed the first time, precisely when hf's wagon was gaining traction, then tried to leverage being right for town cred

as for the rest; it's just wifomy. va actually tried to claim masons with me as 3p survivor in carnaval when i was scum xP when all he had to do was claim it d1 (hf even told everyone to or they'd be lynched if they claimed it later)

unnecessary, yes, but i wouldn't put it past va and forgetting a read like that but more importantly the timing is a lot stronger than some "but scum wouldn't draw attention to himself" argument. i'd always considered that bluehunting thing pretty nai
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:17 GMT
#8039
On July 20 2015 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 00:14 rsoultin wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:05 rsoultin wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Some combination of his opening saying if vivax is scum that means geript is scum is an observation that I don't really see coming from scum. His whiny "holier than thou" attitude, his "woe is me" shit about no one listening to him. Like it all feels like a mediocre town player with a huge ego. Don't really see why scum would draw attention to themselves like that.


lol not really sure why this means anything again?

you think a town player really forgets his strongest townread?


You think a scum player does? Like you're harping on this a lot but it seems like you're using a dumbtell as a scumtell.

And yeah I think drawing unnecessary attention to yourself is more likely to come from town, the same with the bluehunting. Like yeah you name your smurf bluehunter and then roll scum, MAYBE you decide to bluehunt in thread but that just doesnt seem necessary.


actually, yes. i've seen scum players completely forget their reads, clarity xP rayn did it in XXX

it's not that he forgot
it's that he forgot, said hf should be shot, then called him town again for the exact same reason that existed the first time, precisely when hf's wagon was gaining traction, then tried to leverage being right for town cred

as for the rest; it's just wifomy. va actually tried to claim masons with me as 3p survivor in carnaval when i was scum xP when all he had to do was claim it d1 (hf even told everyone to or they'd be lynched if they claimed it later)

unnecessary, yes, but i wouldn't put it past va and forgetting a read like that but more importantly the timing is a lot stronger than some "but scum wouldn't draw attention to himself" argument. i'd always considered that bluehunting thing pretty nai

This is ebh right?



ye, sorry lol >< ebh is va. i guess if i've been wrong on him as the smurf all game the part on carnaval doesn't matter but yeah i've been certain he's va since even before the game started xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:20 GMT
#8042
...

yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:22 GMT
#8046
On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On July 20 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:
...

yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^

2 dumb 2 b mafia.


except i was losing brain cells just attempting to read the first page of his scum filter? so clearly it's more nuanced than 'making rsoul see red' lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:24 GMT
#8051
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?user=boxerfred
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:25 GMT
#8056
On July 20 2015 00:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 20 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:
...

yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^


HtS is right, bf's filter in NSM10 is completely different compared to here.

He didn't tunnel, and he had long reasonable posts, the opposite of this game.


quote the long reasonable posts?

like i said i can't get past the first page -_- it's like reading sicklucker for me
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:26 GMT
#8059
actually, just one of them is good

sorry
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:33 GMT
#8067
On July 20 2015 00:28 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 20 2015 00:25 rsoultin wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:
...

yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^


HtS is right, bf's filter in NSM10 is completely different compared to here.

He didn't tunnel, and he had long reasonable posts, the opposite of this game.


quote the long reasonable posts?

like i said i can't get past the first page -_- it's like reading sicklucker for me

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On May 27 2015 05:26 boxerfred wrote:
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On May 27 2015 04:29 Tictock wrote:
@27nb

What do you think about my last post regarding plots?

I agree about BF, he seems to be sheeping the popular opinion today. I also really don't like him looking for masons. Like he seems to be thinking it would help town to know who is masons so we have more confirmed town. Yet his possible masons are all people largely being townread, so how is that thinking helpful?

Which is wrong, I already pushed disinformation which was not popular at all, starting EoN. Also, I explained thoroughly why I voted for Sicklucker. Then, being sick of the SK discussion, I voted on bunnies without having my own follow up on other people's read.

Can't do much about you not liking me trying to identify masons. I feel like with one scum member down, a mislynch becomes very possible. So I really want to gain any information I can get on who is most likely a town member.

You are generalizing the mason thing, thus leaning me towards scum. Do you have any more reasons to do so beyond the ones I already replied to with this post? Why are you holding me scum for apparently sheeping a popular vote when you are not doing the same for disformation, who still has to reply to some pressure and changed his pushing pattern from day 1 to a lurker pattern today? He already admitted to rather accept a random coinflip then potentially(! note, potentially. chances were not above 50% in my opinion) having a train on himself? Please explain that. Gonna skim through your posts later. I'm reading you town but I didn't pay too much attention on your posts alone yet.

On May 27 2015 22:40 boxerfred wrote:
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On May 27 2015 22:23 Tictock wrote:
@BF
The whole SK thing was some tinfoil hat theory that I liked too much and took seriously. I suggest we go back to ignoring it until we at least find more scum.

I get your thinking on Dis, but to me that's just a sign on him being a new player and not being sure of his own reads. You could probably make this argument about me, but I like pushing what I see pretty hard.

Lets for a moment put aside our thoughts about Dis and SL.

Who are you fairly confident is town?
Where do you think we should look for scum in our shortening list of players?

I wouldn't put that aside as fast as you do it. Changing a posting pattern is a serious thing. I get your "he's new" approach but I think you forget that dis is very conscious of posting patterns, he mentioned my pattern in a post. He must know that posting patterns are quite telly and he even took it in account when he was pushing me. So I at least want to know why his pattern changed so much. Any info, disinfo?

I am fairly confident that Breshke is town. Can't tell for sure of course but his posts are very reasonable. He's taking his time to argue and he's very fair towards people, decently pushing at the same time though. I held batsnacks for town (also because he read me town basically all the time) but that might just be him pocketing me.
I don't have a read on you, tictock, and feel like you should be under some more pressure or at least give some info on what your current reads are, now that BM flipped coin.

I think putting SL aside at least until EoN is a good thing. We have no new clues thus far and he's fairly active, arguing in a weird but relatively reasonal way. Seems to have stopped yolo'ing.

On May 29 2015 01:44 boxerfred wrote:
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On May 28 2015 10:13 disformation wrote:
Okay folks. Let me solve this stuff...

...

boxerfred: I remember you getting pretty angry when I called out your bad D1 voting behaviour. Hit a nerve?
]

You pointed that out being a "Critical question", so let me answer: hell yes! You went at me pretty hard on D1 already and I defended myself without trying to get rid of any attention. I tried to simply stand there, let you fire at me and reply with "Well bro, I'm not a scum member. Since I (at this point) am not too sure about others, I'll just try to defend without damaging anyone else". In contrary to you: you freely admitted that you'd rather have a coinflip vote than the unlikely chance of getting bussed.

When I decided to pressure you, I basically wanted to poke you to see if you'd change something once you're under pressure yourself. Well you did: your D2 pattern was lurky as fuck, and look what you do this day, now that town's chances are better than ever: short posts. Besides one (solid and well written) post, all you do is oneliners and following other guy's theories, without putting yourself too much in the line of fire. You accomplished to never be in danger of being voted since D1.

Still hold you for town however. Tried really hard to find something besides your posting pattern that would justify a push on you, however I cannot.

On May 29 2015 07:33 boxerfred wrote:
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On May 29 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote:
I'm a little on the fence about BF's rapid fire posting on page 83. There is a lot of stuff being said but I'm not sure how many real points of deeper thought I can see, it's more like hes just reacting. That's NAI, I'm just having a hard time reading through it kus it's a bit all over the place.

@ BF
You mention you brought up questions you wanted answered. I feel like i lost them in your like 20 post spam. Can you restate please?

I also want to remind you that while i for a moment considered you and plots as potential scum team, I dismissed it the next post. It was only based on what plots has said, and if he is scum it could have been a move to push you into the limelight after he gets lynched.

I'd also like you to critically look at the 3 claims made today, you've been wanting to do roles stuff for the past few phases, now is your chance. Look through each claim and tell me what makes you think the claim could be legit and what could not be legit. If you need to get more info to reach a conclusion, now is the time to ask.


Questions:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1642
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1654
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1652

Regarding the reminder: I'm still riding the bunnies/disinformation/plotspots train. I won't get off that train easily.
Regarding the three claims: mason claim feels genuine and true, no logical flaws, everything's fine. Cop claim makes sense, too. Good calls, not liking the scum read on Sulfuras but hey that's how it is. The town checks on bunnies and barakos are confusing but would be easily explained with a GF. Can't see a scum lean in Barakos, that would leave it to bunnies.

The Plotspots claim is weak because Barakos revealed that he was blocked before plots revealed his role. Then, plots went full yolo. So: strong claim on mason (which I support), okay(tendence to strong) claim on cop, weak claim on RB.

I note by now that a lurky tactic is far better then really explaining what you are thinking. Dis, bunnies, barakos and sulf do a great job with that thus far.



Notice the completely different tone as well??


eh frankly he's got some posts like this in his filter this game? though it doesn't look much like his opening or his latest posting which is just complete shit

i don't know -_- like what you call "reasonable" i can't even finish reading without twitching so lol i dunnae that i can make an unbiased read on bf. it took me forever to recognize that illogical =/= scum but i have the worst time reading those players even so xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:33 GMT
#8068
On July 20 2015 00:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who are those people?

What exactly do you mean by wary?

Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy?


EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH.

Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch.

How exactly is bf an easy lynch?

Pretty much everyone was calling him town during the night except like ebh who has no pull and rsoul who also has no pull.



all too true -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:37 GMT
#8071
On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who are those people?

What exactly do you mean by wary?

Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy?


EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH.

Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch.


i think i prefer ebh today but i'm not gonna lie and say that i understand y'all's townreads on bf at all
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:40 GMT
#8073
On July 20 2015 00:36 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 00:33 rsoultin wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:28 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:25 rsoultin wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:
...

yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^


HtS is right, bf's filter in NSM10 is completely different compared to here.

He didn't tunnel, and he had long reasonable posts, the opposite of this game.


quote the long reasonable posts?

like i said i can't get past the first page -_- it's like reading sicklucker for me

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 27 2015 05:26 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 04:29 Tictock wrote:
@27nb

What do you think about my last post regarding plots?

I agree about BF, he seems to be sheeping the popular opinion today. I also really don't like him looking for masons. Like he seems to be thinking it would help town to know who is masons so we have more confirmed town. Yet his possible masons are all people largely being townread, so how is that thinking helpful?

Which is wrong, I already pushed disinformation which was not popular at all, starting EoN. Also, I explained thoroughly why I voted for Sicklucker. Then, being sick of the SK discussion, I voted on bunnies without having my own follow up on other people's read.

Can't do much about you not liking me trying to identify masons. I feel like with one scum member down, a mislynch becomes very possible. So I really want to gain any information I can get on who is most likely a town member.

You are generalizing the mason thing, thus leaning me towards scum. Do you have any more reasons to do so beyond the ones I already replied to with this post? Why are you holding me scum for apparently sheeping a popular vote when you are not doing the same for disformation, who still has to reply to some pressure and changed his pushing pattern from day 1 to a lurker pattern today? He already admitted to rather accept a random coinflip then potentially(! note, potentially. chances were not above 50% in my opinion) having a train on himself? Please explain that. Gonna skim through your posts later. I'm reading you town but I didn't pay too much attention on your posts alone yet.

On May 27 2015 22:40 boxerfred wrote:
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On May 27 2015 22:23 Tictock wrote:
@BF
The whole SK thing was some tinfoil hat theory that I liked too much and took seriously. I suggest we go back to ignoring it until we at least find more scum.

I get your thinking on Dis, but to me that's just a sign on him being a new player and not being sure of his own reads. You could probably make this argument about me, but I like pushing what I see pretty hard.

Lets for a moment put aside our thoughts about Dis and SL.

Who are you fairly confident is town?
Where do you think we should look for scum in our shortening list of players?

I wouldn't put that aside as fast as you do it. Changing a posting pattern is a serious thing. I get your "he's new" approach but I think you forget that dis is very conscious of posting patterns, he mentioned my pattern in a post. He must know that posting patterns are quite telly and he even took it in account when he was pushing me. So I at least want to know why his pattern changed so much. Any info, disinfo?

I am fairly confident that Breshke is town. Can't tell for sure of course but his posts are very reasonable. He's taking his time to argue and he's very fair towards people, decently pushing at the same time though. I held batsnacks for town (also because he read me town basically all the time) but that might just be him pocketing me.
I don't have a read on you, tictock, and feel like you should be under some more pressure or at least give some info on what your current reads are, now that BM flipped coin.

I think putting SL aside at least until EoN is a good thing. We have no new clues thus far and he's fairly active, arguing in a weird but relatively reasonal way. Seems to have stopped yolo'ing.

On May 29 2015 01:44 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 10:13 disformation wrote:
Okay folks. Let me solve this stuff...

...

boxerfred: I remember you getting pretty angry when I called out your bad D1 voting behaviour. Hit a nerve?
]

You pointed that out being a "Critical question", so let me answer: hell yes! You went at me pretty hard on D1 already and I defended myself without trying to get rid of any attention. I tried to simply stand there, let you fire at me and reply with "Well bro, I'm not a scum member. Since I (at this point) am not too sure about others, I'll just try to defend without damaging anyone else". In contrary to you: you freely admitted that you'd rather have a coinflip vote than the unlikely chance of getting bussed.

When I decided to pressure you, I basically wanted to poke you to see if you'd change something once you're under pressure yourself. Well you did: your D2 pattern was lurky as fuck, and look what you do this day, now that town's chances are better than ever: short posts. Besides one (solid and well written) post, all you do is oneliners and following other guy's theories, without putting yourself too much in the line of fire. You accomplished to never be in danger of being voted since D1.

Still hold you for town however. Tried really hard to find something besides your posting pattern that would justify a push on you, however I cannot.

On May 29 2015 07:33 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote:
I'm a little on the fence about BF's rapid fire posting on page 83. There is a lot of stuff being said but I'm not sure how many real points of deeper thought I can see, it's more like hes just reacting. That's NAI, I'm just having a hard time reading through it kus it's a bit all over the place.

@ BF
You mention you brought up questions you wanted answered. I feel like i lost them in your like 20 post spam. Can you restate please?

I also want to remind you that while i for a moment considered you and plots as potential scum team, I dismissed it the next post. It was only based on what plots has said, and if he is scum it could have been a move to push you into the limelight after he gets lynched.

I'd also like you to critically look at the 3 claims made today, you've been wanting to do roles stuff for the past few phases, now is your chance. Look through each claim and tell me what makes you think the claim could be legit and what could not be legit. If you need to get more info to reach a conclusion, now is the time to ask.


Questions:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1642
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1654
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1652

Regarding the reminder: I'm still riding the bunnies/disinformation/plotspots train. I won't get off that train easily.
Regarding the three claims: mason claim feels genuine and true, no logical flaws, everything's fine. Cop claim makes sense, too. Good calls, not liking the scum read on Sulfuras but hey that's how it is. The town checks on bunnies and barakos are confusing but would be easily explained with a GF. Can't see a scum lean in Barakos, that would leave it to bunnies.

The Plotspots claim is weak because Barakos revealed that he was blocked before plots revealed his role. Then, plots went full yolo. So: strong claim on mason (which I support), okay(tendence to strong) claim on cop, weak claim on RB.

I note by now that a lurky tactic is far better then really explaining what you are thinking. Dis, bunnies, barakos and sulf do a great job with that thus far.



Notice the completely different tone as well??


eh frankly he's got some posts like this in his filter this game? though it doesn't look much like his opening or his latest posting which is just complete shit

i don't know -_- like what you call "reasonable" i can't even finish reading without twitching so lol i dunnae that i can make an unbiased read on bf. it took me forever to recognize that illogical =/= scum but i have the worst time reading those players even so xP


Like I'm just saying it sounds reasonable. His tone is completely "I hope I don't offend anyone" in that game compared to this one.

He doesn't have posts like that in this game at all?


ooooooh reasonable like that not reasonable like making a lick of sense

hn, maybe. tbf i don't think he risks anything being a dick to me when no one will call him on it anyway, but you may have a point there

-_- i'm getting to the point where you kinda have to be scum or one of my townreads is wrong
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:41 GMT
#8076
On July 20 2015 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who are those people?

What exactly do you mean by wary?

Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy?


EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH.

Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch.


i think i prefer ebh today but i'm not gonna lie and say that i understand y'all's townreads on bf at all

if you prefer ebh, why are you waiting till there are 6 hours left and then not doing jack shit to get us to vote for ebh?


step 1: reread the thread since you entered it
step 2: remove head from ass
step 3: apologize profusely
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:43 GMT
#8082
also

@ruxx

when did you stop thinking that hf/clarity were masons?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:46 GMT
#8089
On July 20 2015 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 00:41 rsoultin wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who are those people?

What exactly do you mean by wary?

Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy?


EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH.

Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch.


i think i prefer ebh today but i'm not gonna lie and say that i understand y'all's townreads on bf at all

if you prefer ebh, why are you waiting till there are 6 hours left and then not doing jack shit to get us to vote for ebh?


step 1: reread the thread since you entered it
step 2: remove head from ass
step 3: apologize profusely

2 votes came in the last 5 minutes.

2 votes are not enough to lynch anyone.

You dont care enough.


^^ 3 votes are not enough to lynch anyone; you're right

i'm not sure on ruxx anymore

i don't think i can lynch bf and he's not a stronger scumread than ebh anyway

i've been pushing va fairly hard for that read switch since last night phase. you can say i don't care if you want; i say screw you

i'm sick and tired of you people saying shit without even verifying wtf it is you're saying

why is va town?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:48 GMT
#8093
On July 20 2015 00:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 00:46 rsoultin wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:41 rsoultin wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who are those people?

What exactly do you mean by wary?

Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy?


EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH.

Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch.


i think i prefer ebh today but i'm not gonna lie and say that i understand y'all's townreads on bf at all

if you prefer ebh, why are you waiting till there are 6 hours left and then not doing jack shit to get us to vote for ebh?


step 1: reread the thread since you entered it
step 2: remove head from ass
step 3: apologize profusely

2 votes came in the last 5 minutes.

2 votes are not enough to lynch anyone.

You dont care enough.


^^ 3 votes are not enough to lynch anyone; you're right

i'm not sure on ruxx anymore

i don't think i can lynch bf and he's not a stronger scumread than ebh anyway

i've been pushing va fairly hard for that read switch since last night phase. you can say i don't care if you want; i say screw you

i'm sick and tired of you people saying shit without even verifying wtf it is you're saying

why is va town?

va is town because he doesnt give a damn what he looks like.


eh there's never any point talking to you, is there?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:53 GMT
#8098
On July 20 2015 00:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
rsoul, which point of time did you think hf was town before he flipped?


huh?

i had a townread on him briefly for picking up that the entirety of truffle's case came from before he said he was townreading ls and pressuring him on it...was scumreading him again when he wrote that case on me that was just complete bs trying to say i was scum for not pushing my scumread and had dropped it cause of marv lol >< which was blatantly false...and his timing seemed particularly opportunistic...plus he'd snipe at me for the hell of it any time i came into thread

then i started doubting again after rereading the thread and made that gun play

personally i think he was just on tilt and we were in the midst of a huge personality clash, since obviously he flipped town, but then it just seemed like that nitpicking shit he does when he rolls scum :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:56 GMT
#8100
On July 18 2015 03:32 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 07:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Alright so I'm here now. Quick little summary of what I thought of this game so far.

Confident town reads

Holyflare - The first post of the game he made is the exact same thought I had as I entered the game, I find that pretty hard to fake and seems like a genuine thing that happened to him since it happened to me as well. Occam's razor here.



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On July 14 2015 07:28 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Shooting HF would be the best thing to ever happen to this game.

1. maybe he's mafia

2. him and rsoultin cant spam the thread anymore and make me ragequit this game for good

3. has good reads if he's town and it would confirm him

dont see any better shots at this point. you have to gamble to win games like this.


Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 01:59 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
On July 15 2015 01:49 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2015 01:47 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
I apologize that I'm being scumread by the majority of people, I've been pretty upfront with my thought process and reads. Oh well.


If you aren't mafia then you gotta point where people's town reads are wrong.


my updated reads list is

tier 1 mafia - Kelsier, OWS

Tier 2 -

tier 3 - Scott, one of rsoultin/HF, Breshke

If we are to assume people are starting to pretty much mass jumble the low page filters together, it was only after I saw scott's name being thrown around that my name was subsequently brought up as a replacement. He has quickly been brought into my scum list due to this.

Rest ive already talked about, backed off breshke but havent interacted with him since so its pretty old sitting there

I expect kelsier to flip mafia


Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 04:39 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
this lynch on hf is 50/50 he could be either alignment easily.i have no idea on this one


Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 14:31 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
oh yea I completely forgot about why I gave holyflare townread. I really doubt he makes that joke as mafia seemed too natural of a thought process. Hopefully we can come to an agreement on a lynch that isnt HF today, im willing to negotiate.


^^^^^

va's convenient read-change on hf...you forgot? i'll grant that it's possible, but if it is SO GOOD that you're going to hard townread hf over all your reservations precisely when hf is up for lynch, i have a very hard time understanding how you forgot it in the first place

not to mention that read is pretty bogus anyway. like lol >< there is really only one good town reason to make the "joke" first post, and that is essentially if you didn't read the OP at all, and frankly even so hf knows that most hosts will post a copy of the vt pm and other pms in the scum qts of games like this...i think he was even one of the people who informed me of that last time in assassination?

you think it's natural for vt to seriously claim vt first post? granted, i'm no psyche dude or whatever, but i can tell you for a fact that i am ten times more likely to do it as scum than as town, because in the first case it buys town cred without risking anything, and in the second case it just helps scum poe blues

if you're town and this is how you really think and your jimmies are just rustled that i don't think your read is worth anything because i don't expect the majority of people in this game to be too stupid to read an op and go 'oh look, vt is called investigator, i can make a post alluding to that for free town cred!', tough

i'd ask you how you forgot your most confident townread based on that flimsy post for several cycles, but frankly there's no response to it


i tried to get people to talk about it a lot during the night phase, but as usual you people don't pay me any attention then accuse me of doing nothing but fighting with hf and ruxx all game ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 15:57 GMT
#8101
you can ignore the analysis and just read the nested quotes
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 19 2015 16:00 GMT
#8103
On July 20 2015 00:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 00:53 rsoultin wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
rsoul, which point of time did you think hf was town before he flipped?


huh?

i had a townread on him briefly for picking up that the entirety of truffle's case came from before he said he was townreading ls and pressuring him on it...was scumreading him again when he wrote that case on me that was just complete bs trying to say i was scum for not pushing my scumread and had dropped it cause of marv lol >< which was blatantly false...and his timing seemed particularly opportunistic...plus he'd snipe at me for the hell of it any time i came into thread
There is no way you were surprised by the flip though.
I think its really odd that there isnt a huge shift in your reads and your attitude considering if you were town, you basically made it really difficult for the other townies to play the game.

From your filter, your reads arent affected by holyflares flip at all.


?? like this would only make sense as an argument if my reads were associative, and my read on va has everything to do with holyflare's flip? what are you smoking?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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