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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 08 2015 23:35 GMT
#3690
Sorry Damdred, you play better then this.

I had a post on HTS and how she questioned me on the wanderer.+ Show Spoiler +


On July 09 2015 02:44 Half the Sky wrote:
It's a blue sham lets see if it works Kappa

Reading Scott's filter. I don't like the beginning of game mindmeld concept but I remembered he also brought up a good point on BF that initially made me wonder if the latter is is flying under the radar.

What gives me pause (is this the same thing you mean Breshke) is Scott's answer to Damdred's question:

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 07:48 scott31337 wrote:
On July 08 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
Scott why were you so sure he was town based on an easy to make claim?


It makes sense - His first and basically only post was wanderer. No else claimed wanderer(which they should have if they were D1, like Miller). I see it was a stupid remark like my drunk post the last game and I need to refrain from posting with emotion.

It's not a bad lynch if he was going to be useless anyway I find it funny I started to believe Ziphh when he was mentioning different pages he was going thru in the thread and to give him a chance - and that has somehow stopped


The key words here being "first and basically only post" - I know when he gave me a townlean he also took either a listpost or something else that he considered me towny on. Would he have given me the same read if I did jack all d1?

Somehow I doubt it.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 05:15 scott31337 wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:46 boxerfred wrote:
I don't like the Miller claim that HtS spewed out, like he doesn't give a fuck. Reads more like a backup (which is sadly NAI), claiming Miller makes sense as scum and as town. He's threwing out cases and opinions without going too hard for someone. He did the same in the Himalaya game after he got in via replacement, he was scum in there.

I just want to say that before people start sheeping him.


Her, BTW. Usually it's a decent strategy to claim self-aware miller/wanderer in day 1 - if you try it later when you're already checked or being pressured no body will believe it. No body else has claimed miller as of yet (and BM claimed wanderer). I mean don't give her a confirmed town 100%, just look more into her thoughts and agenda - and at the moment they seem okay. HF had a good point though.

Why did you "hardclaim" cop while Rsoul was being pressured? Why did you time it then? Why did you say it at all?

What do you think of Palmar so far?

I guess for now I go with the believe ritoky on his claim for today.


(see bolded in second quote)

So why did he believe BM? BM did jack all after the wanderer post. He tells others to look into MY thoughts and agenda. Why didn't he do the same with BM or even think that the fact there was no thoughts or agenda could be problematic? I don't know. But I don't think this is adding up. TMI?

Breshke or anyone else - comments?


I believed BM's wanderer claim just like I believed your miller claim - because it was in your first post and no one CC'ed. Like I said, BM wasn't a terrible lynch (non but I was pretty confident it was true.

Should I not believe your miller claim?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 01:01 GMT
#3734
On July 09 2015 02:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Reading Scott's filter. I don't like the beginning of game mindmeld concept but I remembered he also brought up a good point on BF that initially made me wonder if the latter is is flying under the radar.

What gives me pause (is this the same thing you mean Breshke) is Scott's answer to Damdred's question:

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 07:48 scott31337 wrote:
On July 08 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
Scott why were you so sure he was town based on an easy to make claim?


It makes sense - His first and basically only post was wanderer. No else claimed wanderer(which they should have if they were D1, like Miller). I see it was a stupid remark like my drunk post the last game and I need to refrain from posting with emotion.

It's not a bad lynch if he was going to be useless anyway I find it funny I started to believe Ziphh when he was mentioning different pages he was going thru in the thread and to give him a chance - and that has somehow stopped


The key words here being "first and basically only post" - I know when he gave me a townlean he also took either a listpost or something else that he considered me towny on. Would he have given me the same read if I did jack all d1?

Somehow I doubt it.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 05:15 scott31337 wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:46 boxerfred wrote:
I don't like the Miller claim that HtS spewed out, like he doesn't give a fuck. Reads more like a backup (which is sadly NAI), claiming Miller makes sense as scum and as town. He's threwing out cases and opinions without going too hard for someone. He did the same in the Himalaya game after he got in via replacement, he was scum in there.

I just want to say that before people start sheeping him.


Her, BTW. Usually it's a decent strategy to claim self-aware miller/wanderer in day 1 - if you try it later when you're already checked or being pressured no body will believe it. No body else has claimed miller as of yet (and BM claimed wanderer). I mean don't give her a confirmed town 100%, just look more into her thoughts and agenda - and at the moment they seem okay. HF had a good point though.

Why did you "hardclaim" cop while Rsoul was being pressured? Why did you time it then? Why did you say it at all?

What do you think of Palmar so far?

I guess for now I go with the believe ritoky on his claim for today.


(see bolded in second quote)

So why did he believe BM? BM did jack all after the wanderer post. He tells others to look into MY thoughts and agenda. Why didn't he do the same with BM or even think that the fact there was no thoughts or agenda could be problematic? I don't know. But I don't think this is adding up. TMI?

Breshke or anyone else - comments?


You missed this when I posted it last time HalftheSky.

So should I not believe your miller claim either?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 01:02 GMT
#3735
EBWOP Cannot update quick enough.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 01:23 GMT
#3748
On July 09 2015 10:19 rsoultin wrote:
i was actively deflecting off scott on a hunch that no longer appears to be true, so i'll look at what you have on him, hts


Don't even try it now - What would you like me to answer for you?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 02:17 GMT
#3770
On July 09 2015 11:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 11:10 geript wrote:
I don't find 6 roles that unbelievable especially if there is a good mix of mafia. Especially when (pretending everyone's town) all the roles are limited in use


eh it's less 6 roles in and of itself is a lot and more if every blue has really claimed this early in the game this is a pretty retarded town xP


Why do I think you are scummy and keep posting negative junk (retarded town) and are so angry?

Is HF town?
Is LS town?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 05:13 GMT
#3845
On July 09 2015 12:42 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 12:23 milo109 wrote:
Remember, Mafia knows I'm fake claiming. This was the one I had the hardest time contemplating. On one hand, it seems odd that he knows to do this instantly. On the other, this is playing right in to the fake claim trap. I -think- this makes Harkon townier, unless he is out metaing me.

On July 09 2015 07:44 Harkon wrote:
On July 09 2015 07:41 milo109 wrote:
Red on Clarity.

Do not try any bullshit. No plays, no tricks, no nothing.

Did you really redcheck clarity? If you say yes then we will lynch you if you ever back out of it.


This is also odd:
I actually think that this is Damdred happy that he roleblocked a mafia. But... I have information that you don't have. That I'm town.
On July 09 2015 07:44 Damdred wrote:
And one of the cops has a red check on clarity hrmmm...

My prideful side wants to say fuck yeah....


And then we have my favorite:
Er... Holyflare.. Pls. This is not from a town point of view at all.
On July 09 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh we are never not lynching you ever.

This one is interesting:
I actually think this post and the one below it means I'm wrong on MZ. Or I'm an idiot and did a reaction test on town. I'll have to think over which is more likely.
On July 09 2015 07:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
How about we just lynch milo and when he flips red we don't kill me?




"mafia knows im fake claiming"

This is TMI if ive ever seen it


Milo only posted in Guardians when he felt the need or had to -and he rolled mafia there. I've got that vibe the whole game so far.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 05:20 GMT
#3849
On July 09 2015 13:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred's claim is the worst out of the lot. If I lynched into the claims, that's where I'd lynch.

Which will end up being marv as per usual but I'm okay with that.
Scott is also being incredibly mafia and should probably die soonish.



On July 09 2015 14:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 13:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred's claim is the worst out of the lot. If I lynched into the claims, that's where I'd lynch.

Which will end up being marv as per usual but I'm okay with that.
Scott is also being incredibly mafia and should probably die soonish.

Oh yeah Scott needs to die too. He's been like gone for a long time and inform remember he saying anything that's matters lately. His d1 stuff was suspcuciiusb as fuck


@MZ & OWS
What about my d1 did you not like you did not play MZ? My 98% post? I know you need more then this to get me mislynched, so, please - Help a brotha out.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 18:13 GMT
#4137
On July 09 2015 23:08 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul why do you specifically point out HF wants to lynch milo over damdred. If damdred is 95% scum then milo is basically 95% scum add on to that the weird way he handled damdreds claim i don't see a problem with lynching either of them.

The way i see it we lynch damdred and hardon is around D3 or we lynch milo and either geript or ritoky is around D3 probably ritoky as he seems to be busy.

So yeah damdred is probs a better lynch today


It sounds like a possibility of trying to save their RB for another block for the next day is the only thing I could be thinking - pretty risky to stick your neck out like that though, right?

My friend fucked up his ankle so I've been driving miss daisy today for him - I'll be on and off - Damdred is toast though. At page 200 now.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 18:48 GMT
#4143
On July 10 2015 03:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm really struggling to see how both rsoultin and HF can be town with the way they're shitting up the thread every time they're both around.

On one hand you would expect town!rsoultin to stop making weak attacks like "your vote is still on milo, HA, I caught you" but on the other hand you'd expect town!HF to stop writing paragraphs defending himself against every little thing if he thinks rsoultin is scum.


My instinct is telling me this as well, but they could just be two townies with their ego's in a pissing contest. In a couple days when one of them is still alive we just lynch the other right?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 18:49 GMT
#4144
On July 10 2015 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lool marv you just can't let it go.

Anyway I'm down for a damdred lynch today. I'd be fine with milo tomorrow obviously but I also think we should be considering wave/vivax/scott who have all pulled the disappearing act which would make sense if their scum buddies are currently under scrutiny and they don't want to be forced to comment on it.


Lynch Damdred
Lynch Milo tomorrow unless something magic happens
and then probably you the next day?

You misspelled "my" BTW.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 18:58 GMT
#4146
Did you see me posting before you did? Come on man...

Inb4 MZ's magic bus theory scum tries to pull on me every game as town even though I've been going after Milo since the beginning of time.

Who would you like to lynch tomorrow? Which of us three are the most scummy in your opinion?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 20:48 GMT
#4272
On July 10 2015 05:44 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:

You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.

Dispute the case that I just presented to you.


The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town.


Oh so there is a Framer, thanks bud....
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 21:34 GMT
#4403
On July 10 2015 06:13 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:57 ritoky wrote:
For the love of God, please just do this milo. If you're town this argument is just shitting up the thread right now:

On July 10 2015 05:50 ritoky wrote:
Hey milo, can you make an accusation on one of your other scum reads instead?


scott, BF, clarity, and MZ were all on your list. pick one and go.



Sorry. Lots to address. Who is BF? Am I blanking? Anyway. The case on Scott..

I only just started and I found this gem,
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 03:40 scott31337 wrote:

I know it was a joke but was it to get distracted off of rsoul? It sure feels that way...

I'm only at page 58 - here's my spreedsheet of love.
1) Marvellosity  townie after the morning
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town
5) ruXxar  slight town
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel
7) Bill Murray  wanderer claim
8) ritoky  slight town
9) geript  slight town
10) boxerfred  null meh posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul.
11) Meapak_Ziphh 
12) Trfel  Crap start but can be a big poster too
13) LightningStrike  Meh/Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases
14) Palmar  Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave
18) Breshke  Ehh
19) Oatsmaster  Says Clarity /WoS mafia
20) Damdred  Slight town going after LS
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost
23) Harkon  Smurf - maybe JAT? Ehhh
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - town
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X 

I'll be back in a couple hours after I eat and finish the thread.


He slight town reads everybody but Holyflare. Odd. The only person he calls scum is rsoultin, OWS and I. Millions of town leans can be indicative of mafia.

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On July 08 2015 06:27 scott31337 wrote:
On July 08 2015 06:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lol decided to refresh the vote thread and discovered I'm being killed. I'm currently on page 57, I legitimately have not read this thread. The vote on Clarity was so I didn't get modkilled as he was the scummiest person I found in the first 5 pages.

Top scum reads right now are clarity, milo, and trfel. There are also probably a red or two in the beginning of my wagon as well as the end of my wagon. I'm going to keep catching up but I'll leave another tab open with the current page and refresh it every so often.


Why were you AFK for so long?


He lobs a softball to MZ, and then says this later,

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 06:52 scott31337 wrote:
I want to go back to Ziphh


Why? He offered Ziphh another day to play. Why did he want to switch back?

Also... Why does no one call Scott on TMI? -_- I'm not, because I think it's a dumb argument. But you notice that they only used the TMI on me.

And then his latest post is an attempted catch on me that is dumb.



I love how you use my very first list in the thread instead of the latest one to prove your point here instead of my latest. Do you see what has changed? I probably won't update it much anyway from now on - I have a decent grasp of what's going on - it's more of a reminder of who's still here and not to forget anybody.

+ Show Spoiler +

1) Marvellosity  banished townie
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly (actually never did in thread) / null
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town - defends Damdreds case ok - wants to lynch Vivax/BM/Milo
5) ruXxar  slight town/proviing insight of game - suspicious of rsoul, quite diff. then last game scums vivax/oats
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel calls Rsoul town
7) Bill Murray  Lynched Day 1 Wanderer
8) ritoky  reads boxer as town as well, claimed one shot cop, scum OWS
9) geript  tracker
10) boxerfred  scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats
11) Meapak_Ziphh  inactive/scummy
12) Trfel  Crap start - really different from his last game - added apologies - don’t think he's mafia though. Unsure what to do with him.
13) LightningStrike  claimed 2 shot GS with no pressure again
14) Palmar  Two shot auror dead n1 -Called boxerfred town
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean - wants to lynch me for no reasons
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave - voted LS for bad filter reading - claimed two shot cop
18) Breshke  A post or two I like asking LS about me - could be anything - weak mafia read on me - nullish town
19) Oatsmaster  Is having a few better thoughts lately - but still unsure about him
20) Damdred  Tracked to ritoky - probably mafia RB
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, paranoid of her - scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost - flipped read on HF after being questioned which was weird - slight townlean
23) Harkon  JAT - Veteran no CC Suspicious of ritoky's claim, but. Slight town - hard defends Rsoul
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - Doesn't like certain Rsoul's play - town lean (day 3/4 alive watch out)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X  mixed bag - Vivax/Geript possible scum - Palmar town
Damdred / Milo / MZ / then worry about the other two afterwards.


I didn't give MZ a day - I asked if he would be useful the next day if we did - the thread gave him another day. I really didn't want to switch to BM but I did not want a no lynch either. A hindsight mistake now. I wasn't even sure if we would get enough votes for BM and I did want to go back to MZ. Does that make sense?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 10 2015 03:29 GMT
#4509
@Milo -

Rsoul: Has played in a immature fashion, but hasn't done anything about the claims at all. Which is weird. But towny. Besides.. Pretty sure she'll vote for HF. Can't go alienating my base, can I? How will I win the general election then?

Tell me more about this and why you feel that way. She scumreads HF and will vote for him so you like her, is this correct?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 10 2015 03:35 GMT
#4512
It's interesting (and a point I did forget) that Rsoul voted for Milo first and HF voted for MZ first.
Those are the first things I see.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 10 2015 04:06 GMT
#4524
On July 10 2015 12:50 milo109 wrote:
Based on that I have a new town list.
Confirmed:xP
Oats
Trfel
EBH
Ritoky
Scumdred
geript
LS
Harkon. Sigh.
Marvel
Ruxxar

My lynch order:
HF
Boxer
Clarity
Scott
Vivax
WoS
MZ
HtS
OWS
Kelsier
Breshke
Whoever I forgot


Scumdred..... such WIFOM But I busted out laughing so that was appreciated.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 10 2015 04:08 GMT
#4525
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 10 2015 04:10 GMT
#4527
On July 10 2015 13:02 rsoultin wrote:
and yeah...i'm concentrating on people's interactions with me

tonereader and all that jazz

so i say again, if you don't like it...bite me ^^


What is your scum team at the moment?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 10 2015 04:13 GMT
#4530
Thank you for just answering the question instead of taking twice the time about how you have already answered.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 10 2015 04:53 GMT
#4536
On July 10 2015 13:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:
already said scott -_-

damdy
milo
hf
ruxx
????


Add scott to your scumlist.


Make a case on me please. You keep scumreading me and I've seen very little reasoning for it.

I was busy filter diving and found some things I think I will save for D3, but since you wanted to join in on the fun -

On July 08 2015 12:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As an aside, I don't think milo is mafia.
I just wanted to point that out in case someone asks me about it later.


On July 08 2015 12:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 12:24 milo109 wrote:
If you think I'm actually getting a check off at any point in this game....


Still.
Just.
Don't use it on MZ.


What do you think of MZ and Milo at the moment?
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