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On July 16 2015 14:49 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 14:44 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 14:40 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:On July 16 2015 14:38 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 14:37 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
well that was also the first thought that entered my head when i read my role because i didnt look at role list beforehand, so its relevant nope What is nope? I don't see why anyone wants me to explain anything if they dont follow that same mantra. At least dont all be massive hypocrites. nope as in anyone can read the op, go look vt has investigator in the role, and make that post it's a ridiculous thing to townread someone for beyond maaaaaybe the very start of the game and an even more ridiculous thing to still be townreading someone for as your main reason i didn't realize that was what you were referring to -_- and i know i've already commented on this and frankly this "oh i thought that too!" crap always makes me roll my eyes His read isn't a great read, but he does make a point. The flaw is that it was a 5 man scum team, and even if Oatsmaster thinks geript is blue, and even if geript was scumreading Damdred, that still doesn't really suggest that geript is a likely night kill. I'm looking at Holyflare's case on ObiWanShinobi, and some of it makes a lot of sense, but I've never had much success reading ObiWanShinobi... And I've definitely seen ObiWanShinobi play seriously as town before, that's a horrible point. Furthermore, I am sure that ObiWanShinobi was suspicious of Holyflare at one point during Day 1 (early on, then reinforced by how Holyflare treated marvellosity early), but I don't know what he did with this read. The fact that Holyflare completely ignored it seems a bit strange though, even if the read was completely dropped for several days, I'd think that a truly unbiased Holyflare would have at least mentioned it.
ebh was saying his one amazing reason to townread hf is his entry post claiming vt ^^
oats trying to use that actually is rather towny. i don't disagree with that and it's part of why i've been townreading him from early on...lol even if i didn't think it was a good strategy
nnnhhh i'm going through ows' filter now. hold that thought
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On July 16 2015 14:52 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 14:49 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 14:47 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:On July 16 2015 14:44 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 14:40 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:On July 16 2015 14:38 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 14:37 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
well that was also the first thought that entered my head when i read my role because i didnt look at role list beforehand, so its relevant nope What is nope? I don't see why anyone wants me to explain anything if they dont follow that same mantra. At least dont all be massive hypocrites. nope as in anyone can read the op, go look vt has investigator in the role, and make that post it's a ridiculous thing to townread someone for beyond maaaaaybe the very start of the game and an even more ridiculous thing to still be townreading someone for as your main reason i didn't realize that was what you were referring to -_- and i know i've already commented on this and frankly this "oh i thought that too!" crap always makes me roll my eyes frankly I think you are only refuting it because you do not want HF to be townread, the game is over with HF and mine mislynches. You can already see the game leaning that way as people slowly start consolidating their scum reads to me and hf out of nowhere. ^^ that's 100% it has nothing to do with anyone with a smattering of intelligence being able to read the op and construct a post like that, or the fact that seriously claiming vt is retarded anyway as a town player. nope ^^ why respond sarcastically to the part that isnt worth talking about? the latter is clearly happening. Are you intentionally ignoring it and ok with losing or mafia? Reminds me of himalaya where you were content to sit on your hands while the thread was stagnant because you were mafia. You aren't furthering any discussion by giving these sarcastic snide comments in every post.
cause that's entirely what i'm doing ^^
1. hf has been scumread or at least under suspicion practically all game - your point was wrong
2. i don't see a massive swing to scumread you for the "next mislynch" - your point is again, wrong
so what exactly do you want me to respond to? you're just distracting me by whining and trying to deflect off an objectively weak townread, especially considering we're talking about hf and not some scrub
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On July 16 2015 14:52 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 14:48 rsoultin wrote:
oh, truffle, can you give me examples of bf deliberately acting dumb in his scum game while i look into ows for kicks and giggles? or at least remind me which game it was lol >< I didn't read the game. It was his first game ever (I'd hope you could guess that..), that newbie mafia that cakepie hosted. Here you go. All I know is what people said about it. It was referenced several times in Student Mafia 11. And I can't 100% trust you, so I need to look at ObiWanShinobi for myself. You can look at boxerfred's filter yourself if you really want to. I'm not saying that it makes him scum, I'm just saying that townreading him for not knowing the number of scum left is really, really stupid. I don't see how to tell if he was being genuine or not.
lol i didn't even get through the first page before i caught your drift...thanks for pulling that up
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On July 16 2015 15:03 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 14:41 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 14:38 Holyflare wrote:
I literally told you i said it. you mentioned him a grand total of seven times in 40 pages of filter -_- mostly as part of "to look at" or "possible vig target" lists -_- thanks for the wild goose chase, though. always love that Show nested quote +VA (and expert smurf hunter me says it's va) is probably mafia because he dislikes killing me, a jat shot is so shit in any game that it must be because jat was hinting at being blue and va likes hunting blues. Also VA keeps complaining about things that just aren't true anymore, i didn't shit fight with rsoultin but he returns to say that we were and afk's, his nk stuff that he does as town was far too focused on one player when i think he's usually much more logical. He's pretty off base. Your ctrl f skills are poor.
eh yeah i left off the va ctrl+f cause that turned up every little thing
this still isn't want i'm talking about at all though @.@
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okay so like the only real point i like is the one i already agreed on, regarding ows, which is just essentially that he reacted oddly to the lynch like he actually thought your scummates would try to bail you out if you just flitted off
what exactly is different between town!ows omgusing and scum!ows?
like i think i even remember the newbie he's talking about because if i'm recalling it correctly, it was the one i was coaching the scum team in lol >< even if it wasn't, you did say that obi omgus' in that one; i remember that distinctly
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On July 16 2015 15:24 Holyflare wrote:
Like I've repeated for the 5th time. Omgus is not part of the obi case. The newer obi post i made is great too since it's a giant collection of proof.
it was. you said there was a difference between how he does it as town and scum. i'm not seeing things, hf -_-
it's a giant collection of posts with your name in them xP i just did it myself. yay ctrl+f
i expect the upper one to look similar when/if i ctrl+f clarity's name
you don't like that he was looking for another lynch given his omgus, and you don't like that he's not scumreading clarity for his read on you
your mountain of proof in a nutshell
that second looks more like he's trying to get his point across and i'm not sure why you assume he should be scumreading clarity for it?
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On July 16 2015 15:30 Trfel wrote:
WaveofShadow posting in random discussion thread in TL Mafia but not caring while Holyflare is lynched.
What about all of the people scumreading me for doing nothing after a game as scum, which happened to be the same last game that WaveofShadow played.....
Lazy or no, I just can't imagine town!WaveofShadow being THIS disinterested while Holyflare is up for lynch? Or is this within his play?
no earthly clue -_- i know for a fact he takes way more pride in his scum game than his town game (we had the conversation months ago playing league) which was why i was willing to accept people's meta-read on him
i don't know that this means he's incapable of burning out, though?
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On July 16 2015 15:31 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 15:27 Trfel wrote:
Okay, yeah, ObiWanShinobi does seem to talk about a bunch of different reads at different times, and doesn't really flow smoothly between them.
I'll check some meta, but if someone can show that this strongly indicates that ObiWanShinobi is scum, that would be good to know. Because while it is scummy, I don't find it convincing enough by itself. He said it was scummy that i called out marv which I've definitely done before. He got schooled by someone for thinking it. He dropped it and every new mention of me and rsoultin is towny or it meant nothing. No scum reads at all. It doesn't need to be mentioned if he doesn't mention me as mafia past the first post he made d1 and then never again, it means his read didn't exist.
didn't he start calling you mafia after you started pushing him? isn't that the definition of omgus? am i getting something wrong, because that's what it looked like to me
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actually yeah, he's waffled all over the place on the clarity read, especially this phase. that's honestly probably the only thing apart from looking for another lynch when you were afk that actually holds any water, frankly
i don't really see how he can go from
- clarity is giving him too easy townreads
to
- should look more into him
to
- doubt you need to look into clarity, rsoul
^ obi, can you explain where you're at with clarity and how it fits into that progression?
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On July 16 2015 15:42 Breshke wrote:
like its fairly simple why i flipped on Hf a little obi, im a sucker for people who engage with me. I dont know why you are flipping a shit.
Rsoul how behind in the game are you?
i'm not? i'm behind in the work i usually put into a game that y'all never see much of, just the results from lol >< should have been in bed half an hour ago
right now my main concern is seeing if hf's case on obi has any validity
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On July 16 2015 15:45 Holyflare wrote:
We should totally just no lynch twice for the infos and extra night we get
eh, i may actually be fine with a no lynch this phase, but 4 more dead townies is going to gut this town more than it already is
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On July 16 2015 15:53 Trfel wrote:
Oh yeah, I meant to read that one game where Holyflare got mislynched...
What happened in that game? How similar was it to this?
lol not at all, in all honesty
he voted for marv and marv threw a fit xP
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that was marv
i think hf was busy though and wasn't there during the brief window the lynch swung toward him?
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On July 16 2015 15:46 rsoultin wrote:
actually yeah, he's waffled all over the place on the clarity read, especially this phase. that's honestly probably the only thing apart from looking for another lynch when you were afk that actually holds any water, frankly
i don't really see how he can go from
- clarity is giving him too easy townreads
to
- should look more into him
to
- doubt you need to look into clarity, rsoul
^ obi, can you explain where you're at with clarity and how it fits into that progression?
i need sleep. please answer this, obi
meh...i'm not entirely comfortable with clarity's disappearing act earlier, either. it seemed incongruous with the situation, more so than wanting to policy lynch hf for throwing a fit and saying he wouldn't post anymore, frankly
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On July 16 2015 15:56 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 15:48 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 15:42 Breshke wrote:
like its fairly simple why i flipped on Hf a little obi, im a sucker for people who engage with me. I dont know why you are flipping a shit.
Rsoul how behind in the game are you? i'm not? i'm behind in the work i usually put into a game that y'all never see much of, just the results from lol >< should have been in bed half an hour ago right now my main concern is seeing if hf's case on obi has any validity Ahh okay it is just weird for you not to have a read on me. Also yeah HF wasn't around when we misslynched him
lol i have an outdated read on you and you really fell off the last several phases that i recall...mostly i just want to look into what everyone's saying and i won't have time before the lynch, so i'm prioritizing
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also, just pointing this out for my own enrichment since no one gives a crap what i say this game
ruxx disappeared when you gave him that out, hf...i'd appreciate it if you didn't obstruct my questions even if you don't understand their purpose
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On July 16 2015 16:06 Trfel wrote:
Here's a really stupid meta to read Holyflare.
As town, he plays the game seriously right away. As scum, he doesn't.
Is there any merit to this at all?
nope. he did that game within a game thing in the one we both got n1'd...the damdy/gb/rit scumteam
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On July 16 2015 16:07 Holyflare wrote:What out did i give him? You asked him a crap question with the answer already in the post 
i would
appreciate it
if you didn't get in my way
the main point is he disappeared ^^ so clearly you did. i guarantee it was more useful than "you're scum and i'll never change my mind"
/out
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eh, i'm going with my gut
i've liked ows through most of the game
every time you come into the thread, hf, the atmosphere goes to shit, simple as that
i still want ows to address his clarity read, ftr
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On July 16 2015 21:36 rsoultin wrote:
eh, i'm going with my gut
i've liked ows through most of the game
every time you come into the thread, hf, the atmosphere goes to shit, simple as that
i still want ows to address his clarity read, ftr
^ it speaks for itself, imo
- trfel push: nothing you do will make you change my mind...oh i was questioning him!
- fighting with conf town
- hyperbolic, out-of-context or blatant misrepresentation in his cases
- if you don't agree you're mafia!
- opportunistic pushes (d1 push on me during stated afk time)
- shifting reads to whatever most benefits him: oh i was lying o.0, i never stopped scumreading you
- prediction that both me and he would be in lylo, and setting up the mislynch <- paranoia, i know, but the wording was way too certain
- continuing to ignore what anyone says about ruxx
- "martyring" over ls voting him in pure bipolar fashion
like i could go on but most simply, hf comes in thread, thread goes to shit. it's classic scum hf play
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