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On July 16 2015 09:16 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 09:00 Holyflare wrote: Well it's quite a simple question that deserves an honest answer. Not an argument or anything, if you're town then I am simply wrong on you and I have actually read your filter to get to that comment. I feel like my statement is correct. If you think the opposite can you please just tell me what you think you have pushed and what you have achieved in the past 3 cycles? I'm just going to repaste this because I cannot be more civil than I am already being. If you are town then it would be more than helpful to stop me calling you mafia and perhaps help me to look in other directions if you were just to succinctly paraphrase your play to me in a few sentences such as: - I have done x yesterday
- when y happened I thought this and pushed it!
I am in no way being antagonistic here. I have read your filter and yes, you are at the forefront of everything but then so am I and people are calling me mafia. Why does that matter at all? The simple answer is that it's easy for high activity players to be at the forefront of everything because all they have to do is comment on things. I think you have done a LOT of commenting and not a lot of anything else (namely pushing scum reads). That is shown by today how you have defaulted to my lynch while calling me town but have not concluded who the mafia team are or are doing any intuitive digging like I would expect you to be doing as town, in fact it looks like your mafia play where you get lazy and just comment on things and I think this has been indicative of your play for the past few cycles. So, in the interest of fairness I would like you to evaluate your own play to ME simply because I am interested to hear it. Please.
eh -_- i may or may not (i of course cannot confirm or deny) have been told to play nice
look. i told y'all at the beginning of the night cycle that i wouldn't have time for this game until after my exam today. whether you want to accept that or not is your prerogative but it's not like i haven't been open about it. there's a reason i got so far behind last week and it didn't suddenly disappear this week
despite that i have still been pushing ruxx, and dove ebh. it's not a lot but it's not nothing, either. you can accuse me of only commenting on others' thoughts, and you'd be mostly right ^^ but i haven't had the time to look at anything yet which, btw, everyone knew
so as soon as i start talking about looking into things now that my exam's over, you come in and start calling me mafia? seems pretty opportunistic to me, frankly
i do not think and have not implied that you are town. i was trying to give you a chance to prove yourself which should have been very obvious with how i handled your martyring, which you are conveniently choosing to ignore
i like how you try to pass it off as me not doing anything for three cycles ^^ but when you ask you talk specifically about "yesterday". so why don't you do me a favor and leave me alone, unless you actually plan on trying to lynch me today. i don't care to put up with your sniping and it will not do anything to make me want to look more into this game, if you're town and that's what you're thinking
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On July 16 2015 09:38 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote: I think oats is town because his play on day 1 basically only comes from someone who knows about being a VT and if he was mafia he would directly understand that geript was a blue instead and yet geript wasn't shot at all. I think besides that his play has been relatively active/intuitive and towny.
I also think Vivax is town because of activity and yes his posts have been weird but I have town feels from them and he seems to be pushing his ideas which are more in line with a town vivax than anything.
Wave is purely meta and a geript read so it could be completely wrong.
I realise that PoE's me but I am not mafia either, I also kind of like VA's posting and yeh it looks like he's "too right" but VA isn't that bad and his posts haven't been awful and have been in line with what i'm thinking most of the time (obi, kelsier etc) I realise that like.... literally leaves just me and ruxxar but I don't really have a read on ruxxar and i'm town so that pretty much means your PoE is very likely wrong (mayyybeeee not on VA and ruxxar but i think VA is probably town) genuinely thankyou for this. Can you explain the "comes from someone who knows about being a VT" bit about oats and also elaborate or show me what posts from vivax you egt townfeels from? Also you have a problem with some people for townreading you when they have no buisness town reading you. Why do you not apply this to ruxxar aswell? Do you find the reasons for his townread on you to be legitimate?
so much this, hf
also, why am i scumreading ruxxar after playing with him and you're not? and none of this "he's not playing like he did last game" cause the preachy saying things without really getting anywhere stuff is exactly like he was playing when he was actually bothering to interact with people last game
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On July 16 2015 09:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 09:38 Breshke wrote:On July 16 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote: I think oats is town because his play on day 1 basically only comes from someone who knows about being a VT and if he was mafia he would directly understand that geript was a blue instead and yet geript wasn't shot at all. I think besides that his play has been relatively active/intuitive and towny.
I also think Vivax is town because of activity and yes his posts have been weird but I have town feels from them and he seems to be pushing his ideas which are more in line with a town vivax than anything.
Wave is purely meta and a geript read so it could be completely wrong.
I realise that PoE's me but I am not mafia either, I also kind of like VA's posting and yeh it looks like he's "too right" but VA isn't that bad and his posts haven't been awful and have been in line with what i'm thinking most of the time (obi, kelsier etc) I realise that like.... literally leaves just me and ruxxar but I don't really have a read on ruxxar and i'm town so that pretty much means your PoE is very likely wrong (mayyybeeee not on VA and ruxxar but i think VA is probably town) genuinely thankyou for this. Can you explain the "comes from someone who knows about being a VT" bit about oats and also elaborate or show me what posts from vivax you egt townfeels from? Also you have a problem with some people for townreading you when they have no buisness town reading you. Why do you not apply this to ruxxar aswell? Do you find the reasons for his townread on you to be legitimate? Nah, I just explained I don't have a read on ruxxar. His situation is also a bit different because he JUST played in a mafia game with me together so I expected him to have a different insight into things than Clarity for example who keeps denying anything being told to him. Ruxxar's read is based on his anecdotal facts and own point of view and Clarity's is based purely on.... who knows and when you don't really know a player and everyone is screaming in your face otherwise and you still keep that read then it's pretty fucking scummy to me. Yeh, I do have a weakness for people defending me too and rsoultin should know that because she did exactly the same to me in another game so saying it's weird is pretty bad for her anyway. Did you read my stuff on Obi Breshke? Both the night posts and post I just made now? Why do you have him as town?
i've attempted multiple times, hf, to get you to actually look into ruxx, which you refuse to do. it's not "pretty bad" for me to call it weird. if you know this is a weakness of yours, why are you blatantly ignoring it?
why are you ignoring that ruxx should be more wary of your game after playing scum with you, not less?
why are you ignoring all the people saying this doesn't look like his town game, and did you ever go back to the days i asked you to? or just ignored that, too?
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anyway, yeah, i'm gonna just do my thing, now (and yes, actually look into that OWS case), but i do expect an answer to that at some point; it wasn't rhetorical
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On July 16 2015 10:07 Holyflare wrote: I've ignored everything you have said to me for the past few cycles, it's as simple as that. I did not want to start any more nonsense. I don't think his game play was anything alike to his last game at the start of the game. I made that abundantly clear to you. Marv also agreed and so did Vivax. I have not ignored it in the slightest. I think he took the correct stance on you day 1 and upon re-reading my filter along with his, his push was indeed a good one on you because I was far better looking than I originally thought.
I have not read his filter in the past cycle or two, no, but being lazy/not at a computer for a week and a combination of my early town read based on his play made me avoid him.
Sure, he might be mafia and I certainly haven't put him in my town list like you are implying I am doing. I literally just said I do not have a read on him to Breshke while you attack me for something completely opposite.
lol and you accuse me of doing nothing while blatantly ignoring what i post ^^ good job
btw if you're into rereading your filter for "towniness", perhaps you should reread your case and see why i think you're deliberately misrepresenting me, or does that not fit into your agenda?
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eh, truffle, oats was pulling a bats and thinking he could find scum via a pm...that everyone knew, but still lol >< he thought he caught geript because geript's response made it rather clear that he wasn't vt
yeah, i realize i'm being hypocritical and am going to stop grilling you for the time-being hf and let you do your thing, too
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On July 16 2015 11:53 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 10:19 rsoultin wrote: eh, truffle, oats was pulling a bats and thinking he could find scum via a pm...that everyone knew, but still lol >< he thought he caught geript because geript's response made it rather clear that he wasn't vt
yeah, i realize i'm being hypocritical and am going to stop grilling you for the time-being hf and let you do your thing, too scumslipping via not having a town pm is a thing, but its a lot less often now because pms are in OP.
lol yeah i know that's why i found it funny that was the tack you were taking ^^ were you just doing it to see his reaction or something?
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On July 16 2015 12:18 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 10:21 Breshke wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 16 2015 09:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 09:38 Breshke wrote:On July 16 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote: I think oats is town because his play on day 1 basically only comes from someone who knows about being a VT and if he was mafia he would directly understand that geript was a blue instead and yet geript wasn't shot at all. I think besides that his play has been relatively active/intuitive and towny.
I also think Vivax is town because of activity and yes his posts have been weird but I have town feels from them and he seems to be pushing his ideas which are more in line with a town vivax than anything.
Wave is purely meta and a geript read so it could be completely wrong.
I realise that PoE's me but I am not mafia either, I also kind of like VA's posting and yeh it looks like he's "too right" but VA isn't that bad and his posts haven't been awful and have been in line with what i'm thinking most of the time (obi, kelsier etc) I realise that like.... literally leaves just me and ruxxar but I don't really have a read on ruxxar and i'm town so that pretty much means your PoE is very likely wrong (mayyybeeee not on VA and ruxxar but i think VA is probably town) genuinely thankyou for this. Can you explain the "comes from someone who knows about being a VT" bit about oats and also elaborate or show me what posts from vivax you egt townfeels from? Also you have a problem with some people for townreading you when they have no buisness town reading you. Why do you not apply this to ruxxar aswell? Do you find the reasons for his townread on you to be legitimate? Well, oats pushed geript for his "scum slip" thing all of day one right? Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote: Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun. Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you? Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 07 2015 00:16 geript wrote:On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote: Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun. Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you? First off, that's one word dumbass. Second the word investigator means nothing to me. It shouldn't to anyone. It's fucking stupid. Roles are listed in the op. scumslip It genuinely looks like Oats is a VT and "caught" out geript in his scum slip thing and besides that he had actual logical reasons to scum read geript too, he elaborated more on it later: Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 01:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 08 2015 01:55 Harkon wrote:Let's look at oats scumslip accusations: On July 07 2015 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 07 2015 00:16 geript wrote:On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote: Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun. Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you? First off, that's one word dumbass. Second the word investigator means nothing to me. It shouldn't to anyone. It's fucking stupid. Roles are listed in the op. scumslip This is extremely stupid since geript says in the very same post that roles (for example the VT role investigator) are listed in the OP. On July 07 2015 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 07 2015 00:22 geript wrote: I think he's trying to say he scumslipped and was just following what HF did early not realizing there are two investigators. scumslip x2 This is weird because geript doesn't connect the investigator to the VT role like I just said. I also already pointed that out when it happened. The 2 investigators comment itself is perfectly fine. except geript isnt referring to the VT role pm when he says "roles", hes referring to the blue roles available in the game. Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 02:14 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 08 2015 02:11 geript wrote:On July 08 2015 02:07 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 08 2015 02:04 geript wrote:On June 19 2015 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:
DMLE Investigator (Vanilla Townie): You’ve been working in Precinct 16 for a long time. You’ve seen a lot of messed up things in your day. When the going gets tough, you don’t stop. Every case takes a little bit out of you, but someone has to do this work. You are a VT.
Investigator Extraordinaire (Vigilante): You keep on thinking back to your idol, Rita Skeeter. You want to be just like her. You’re not gonna let things like an “ongoing investigation” or “hostage situation” stop you from writing your character assassination pieces. You’re a journalist; you and your quick-quotes quill doesn’t afraid of anyone. At night, you can fire a bullet to deal 1 kp to a target. You can't shoot during night 1.
Very hard to read the OP. Much tough. Very braindead. So why didnt you say something referring investigator to vt? Why would I need to? because thats clearly what I was talking about if you had gotten the vt role pm. But you didnt, so you messed up. To oats, it was obvious that geript did not get the VT pm and he spent ages tunneling on it (I actually really like all of his posts d1 and maybe I should ignore oats less  ) so if he was mafia he'd know that geript was actually blue.
Vivax is a bit hard to quantify but i'll try in a bit I kinda wrote this off because i thought it was dumb. Like the last quote chain especially im not sure what interaction oats was looking for with geript. I found it weird but not alignment indicative weird more like i dont get this weird. I thought it was fairly clear that geript ment that the word investigator shouldn't mean anything to anyone because the pms are listen in the OP. I do understand the logic though that oats seemed fairly certain it meant geript was not VT so if he was mafia he would have likely pushed for that nightkill. This is a good reason to townread oats. On July 16 2015 09:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 09:38 Breshke wrote:On July 16 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote: I think oats is town because his play on day 1 basically only comes from someone who knows about being a VT and if he was mafia he would directly understand that geript was a blue instead and yet geript wasn't shot at all. I think besides that his play has been relatively active/intuitive and towny.
I also think Vivax is town because of activity and yes his posts have been weird but I have town feels from them and he seems to be pushing his ideas which are more in line with a town vivax than anything.
Wave is purely meta and a geript read so it could be completely wrong.
I realise that PoE's me but I am not mafia either, I also kind of like VA's posting and yeh it looks like he's "too right" but VA isn't that bad and his posts haven't been awful and have been in line with what i'm thinking most of the time (obi, kelsier etc) I realise that like.... literally leaves just me and ruxxar but I don't really have a read on ruxxar and i'm town so that pretty much means your PoE is very likely wrong (mayyybeeee not on VA and ruxxar but i think VA is probably town) genuinely thankyou for this. Can you explain the "comes from someone who knows about being a VT" bit about oats and also elaborate or show me what posts from vivax you egt townfeels from? Also you have a problem with some people for townreading you when they have no buisness town reading you. Why do you not apply this to ruxxar aswell? Do you find the reasons for his townread on you to be legitimate? Nah, I just explained I don't have a read on ruxxar. His situation is also a bit different because he JUST played in a mafia game with me together so I expected him to have a different insight into things than Clarity for example who keeps denying anything being told to him. Ruxxar's read is based on his anecdotal facts and own point of view and Clarity's is based purely on.... who knows and when you don't really know a player and everyone is screaming in your face otherwise and you still keep that read then it's pretty fucking scummy to me. Yeh, I do have a weakness for people defending me too and rsoultin should know that because she did exactly the same to me in another game so saying it's weird is pretty bad for her anyway. Did you read my stuff on Obi Breshke? Both the night posts and post I just made now? Why do you have him as town? Okay i see how that doesn't really apply but can you look at this post please. On July 14 2015 01:29 ruXxar wrote: I was scum with HF last game, and I have a townlean on him this game.
In general I find HF hard to read, he doesn't conform to the stereotypic mafia player. There are however small nuances that I think makes him town this game, compared to last game.
1) He's actually pushing logical targets. I find myself agreeing with a lot of his reasoning, as compared to just trying to tunnel people to death with weak arguments and a play on emotions. Last game he tried to lynch people by ridiculing them and their arguments and being over the top and shouting at them. Blowing things out of proportions and trying to make them look stupid. I'm seeing a relatively more "calm" and reasoning HF this game. More serious and down to business.
2) He's more wishy washy. This doesn't mean that he IS wishy washy in a general sense, but in a relative sense compared to last game. Especially the night when were lynched BM he seemed a bit all over the place, uncertain where to go. You see that he sometimes have a hard time picking a target to lynch, I can relate to that very well. That isn't the scum HF I played with last game. He mainly picked one target and stuck with it, and didn't waver much.
3) He's re-evaluating his stance. You can see multiple times throughout the game that he's re-evaluating his stance on people. This is apparent in how he's re-evaluating his stance on both trfel, hts, milo and others continuously, jumping from towny to scummy based on their actions/reactions.
That's my opinion on HF so far this game, I don't agree that shooting him is a good idea. If anything, shoot Rsoul. Do you think these reasons could make him have such a strong townread that he doesn't really seem to second guess it. I think all of these things are entirely possible for you to do as town. Number 1 is the best reason i find but it still shouldn't make his read so concrete. He speaks with such authority like he knows your play so well and hey maybe he does but i find it really hard to believe coming from someone who has played what? 1 game with you? Also if anything the second reason concerning the BM lynch I wouldn't really say is townie since we know it was town v town and this was posted after the MZ flip but he doesn't even take this into account in his read. I have read your obi stuff but i don't really remember it, i will definitely go back and take a look at it sometime soon like this phase though. That post described why I had been reading him as town up until that point. What solidified his town position for me and why he's currently my strongest townread, I outlined in this post: Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 22:36 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2015 22:06 rsoultin wrote: eh prob that you take ages to answer any question directed at you ruxx lol >< i've generally been chalking it up to not being a native english speaker, but it could be easily construed as either avoiding the question or being too careful with your wording
you've been hard-defending/hard-townreading hf all game practically? (i know you claim that you haven't, but taking up shit reasons to call me scum that basically involve "obstructing" hf is pretty much the same thing xP unless you're a supremely illogical person)
like, it's nice that you're doing work and all with the flipped scum filters, but you don't seem to really be getting anywhere with them? why so cool all of a sudden on hf? too me it looks a whole lot like you're just setting up to vote him if he doesn't come back while making it easy to not lynch him if he does -_- does the martyring make you think he's less town or are you just "pissed"? How am I avoiding questions when I'm answering them? I know I take a long reason answering questions and there's a good reason for that. I don't want to say stupid stuff that's going to come back to bite me in the ass later and get me mis-lynched. What good does it serve me if I have to go back and explain all the errors I made in my statements when I can just get it right the first time? It's a waste of my time and does not help us get anywhere. I don't town-read HF any less for his martyring, but I dislike martyring strongly. In honor of the spirit of the game you should never quit and go against your win condition. I know it's easy to take the high road here, but I don't see how you can play this game and not expect to have to deal with hardships. What pisses me off especially about HF is how I KNOW that he is good at defending himself if he wants to. I was mafia with him last game, I've seen first hand what he's capable of. I was expecting more out of him, but I don't read it as scummy behavior. In fact, I think it makes him even more towny. I think that if HF was scum he would feel an obligation to his mafia team to never give up. From playing and talking with him last game that is what my gut tells me that HF would do. Just look at how he fought against the tides with the red-check on him for such a long time when people kept bringing up the same logic over and over against him. I don't see mafia HF giving up this easily. I saw how HF was struggling so hard as mafia against all odds last game, and it was a miracle that we won. I refuse to believe that HF would give up as mafia when he has an obligation to his team, and also his pride on the line as the best scum player on TL. Like, he was attack from all fronts and I even bussed him super hard and he still didn't give up. Yes my meta read is based on that one game together, but I believe strongly that HF would not give up as scum. If you show me a game where he did give up as scum then sure, my townread on him might dip a little, but that doesn't nullify the other things I'm townreading him for.
why do you think he's more likely to "give up" as town than scum? like i'm not gonna lie, the way you two are treating each other this game has my hackles raised
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On July 16 2015 13:00 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin I understand you think you've done something and keep complaining to people about ruxxar being mafia but he is your only push this entire game since day 1. I would appreciate if you looked elsewhere since I do not think you get so focused on just one player as town ever. You have skirted around this obi thing for a good while and you don't need to look at his filter to comment on my posts or see his posts at all.
?? i have commented on obi quite a bit this game? just as i brought damdy to people's attention, and i know you haven't forgotten my pushing you, milo or scott. it's certainly irritating that you keep saying i'm not doing things when i have been...i brought scott to your attention multiple times before you started pushing him yourself, and yeah, i was wrong, but saying i'm not doing anything is blatantly false
but tbh i'm actually still not paying attention to this game fully...i already mentioned that not pushing you when you were up for lynch was strange and ows' excuse even stranger
^ this is why i'm really certain you're not actually reading my posts, btw
i'll take a look at the clarity thing...lol eventually >< which means before the end of the night. as for his townreads based on activity, i agree that for ruxx and myself that's nai...ruxx was plenty active last scumgame and anyone who has seen one of my scumgames knows i can post just as much as a scum hf xP
in all honesty, if we were going by activity levels, i probably have a lower activity/pg ratio than almost any of my games as either alignment this game -shrugs- though again, it's not something i keep close enough track of to know for sure
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pretty sure the assumption
and i know marv echoed it at some point
was that if va is smurfing so that he can be more active/participate more without being scumread for it, shouldn't we see something other than his generic barely playing behavior this game?
there was also something about his nk analysis not being applied to everyone...i'd have to look up what exactly was said, but he mentioned that the palmar kill suggested a certain subset of players while excluding some players from that subset, which is a valid point
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On July 16 2015 13:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 13:20 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 13:00 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin I understand you think you've done something and keep complaining to people about ruxxar being mafia but he is your only push this entire game since day 1. I would appreciate if you looked elsewhere since I do not think you get so focused on just one player as town ever. You have skirted around this obi thing for a good while and you don't need to look at his filter to comment on my posts or see his posts at all. ?? i have commented on obi quite a bit this game? just as i brought damdy to people's attention, and i know you haven't forgotten my pushing you, milo or scott. it's certainly irritating that you keep saying i'm not doing things when i have been...i brought scott to your attention multiple times before you started pushing him yourself, and yeah, i was wrong, but saying i'm not doing anything is blatantly false but tbh i'm actually still not paying attention to this game fully...i already mentioned that not pushing you when you were up for lynch was strange and ows' excuse even stranger ^ this is why i'm really certain you're not actually reading my posts, btw i'll take a look at the clarity thing...lol eventually >< which means before the end of the night. as for his townreads based on activity, i agree that for ruxx and myself that's nai...ruxx was plenty active last scumgame and anyone who has seen one of my scumgames knows i can post just as much as a scum hf xP in all honesty, if we were going by activity levels, i probably have a lower activity/pg ratio than almost any of my games as either alignment this game -shrugs- though again, it's not something i keep close enough track of to know for sure Yes yes ok, you're a good player. This wasn't the answer I'm looking for though it's so wishy washy and doesn't say anything about obi. I KNOW his reads based on activity mean nothing but why do you tell me what i already know instead of what it means foefor obi? I mean... You just don't seem inquisitive and it's scummy and i can't get past it.
let me explain something to you
i don't just sheep people. it's not in my blood. i like to review cases. i haven't had the opportunity yet. no amount of poking at me about it before i review it is going to change that
if you're not seeing me be "inquisitive" you are again selectively reading. i've been questioning my scumreads based on what i noticed and i will take a look at your scumread when i am good and ready
also, so that you can understand what busy means, i will not return to the thread until i've done so ^^
capice?
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On July 16 2015 13:26 Holyflare wrote: Yes i made that point.
Va has posted about 10,000 more posts than usual and he was outed pretty quickly. I don't see how he can change his usual thought process or playstyle from one game to the next just because his name changes. (and evidently he can't if he was outed so quickly).
i actually have a townlean on va for that reason xP i also feel like he's contributed more. i still should look up that one point cause i'd forgotten about it until you jogged my memory -_-
okay now really going
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yo, truffle, where you at in the catch-up?
you've got my undivided attention (mostly) for the next hour lol and i think you're more up on the recent stuff than i am
i've got you, oats and ls as my strong towns
do you have any doubts on hts/clarity or can i skip over them and look at everyone else?
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On July 16 2015 14:31 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: oh yea I completely forgot about why I gave holyflare townread. I really doubt he makes that joke as mafia seemed too natural of a thought process. Hopefully we can come to an agreement on a lynch that isnt HF today, im willing to negotiate.
which joke?
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On July 16 2015 14:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Nope, too much of a headache to even turn the game on. Fantastic. Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 14:25 rsoultin wrote: yo, truffle, where you at in the catch-up?
you've got my undivided attention (mostly) for the next hour lol and i think you're more up on the recent stuff than i am
i've got you, oats and ls as my strong towns
do you have any doubts on hts/clarity or can i skip over them and look at everyone else? Skip over Hts because that's a waste of time. Look into clarity maybe but I seriously doubt it.
i'm still looking for that damn post i remember on va @.@ i know it caught my eye and i'm not sure why i forgot it or who said it. you know what i'm talking about?
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On July 16 2015 14:37 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: well that was also the first thought that entered my head when i read my role because i didnt look at role list beforehand, so its relevant
nope
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On July 16 2015 14:38 Holyflare wrote: I literally told you i said it.
you mentioned him a grand total of seven times in 40 pages of filter -_- mostly as part of "to look at" or "possible vig target" lists -_- thanks for the wild goose chase, though. always love that
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On July 16 2015 14:40 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 14:38 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 14:37 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: well that was also the first thought that entered my head when i read my role because i didnt look at role list beforehand, so its relevant nope What is nope? I don't see why anyone wants me to explain anything if they dont follow that same mantra. At least dont all be massive hypocrites.
nope as in anyone can read the op, go look vt has investigator in the role, and make that post
it's a ridiculous thing to townread someone for beyond maaaaaybe the very start of the game and an even more ridiculous thing to still be townreading someone for as your main reason
i didn't realize that was what you were referring to -_- and i know i've already commented on this and frankly this "oh i thought that too!" crap always makes me roll my eyes
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oh, truffle, can you give me examples of bf deliberately acting dumb in his scum game while i look into ows for kicks and giggles? or at least remind me which game it was lol ><
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On July 16 2015 14:47 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 14:44 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 14:40 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:On July 16 2015 14:38 rsoultin wrote:On July 16 2015 14:37 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote: well that was also the first thought that entered my head when i read my role because i didnt look at role list beforehand, so its relevant nope What is nope? I don't see why anyone wants me to explain anything if they dont follow that same mantra. At least dont all be massive hypocrites. nope as in anyone can read the op, go look vt has investigator in the role, and make that post it's a ridiculous thing to townread someone for beyond maaaaaybe the very start of the game and an even more ridiculous thing to still be townreading someone for as your main reason i didn't realize that was what you were referring to -_- and i know i've already commented on this and frankly this "oh i thought that too!" crap always makes me roll my eyes frankly I think you are only refuting it because you do not want HF to be townread, the game is over with HF and mine mislynches. You can already see the game leaning that way as people slowly start consolidating their scum reads to me and hf out of nowhere.
^^ that's 100% it
has nothing to do with anyone with a smattering of intelligence being able to read the op and construct a post like that, or the fact that seriously claiming vt is retarded anyway as a town player. nope ^^
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