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On July 14 2015 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 11:37 rsoultin wrote:
i think it's kinda obvious what trfel is saying, ows? (and a really good point, lol ><)
ruxxar just got out of a game where he was scum with hf and saw him somehow survive a red check through three consecutive day phases, so if anything he should at least be somewhat wary of hf's alignment? almost the entirety of the rest of the game is, and we've all seen hf play as both alignments numerous times. it's weird he's that certain
like if hf is town this game, i think ruxx buddying up like this and acting like his parrot is even scummier, to be completely honest I get the point, but I've been in the same position because I hard townread Hf in a game a long, long time ago right after he beat me as scum. Just because it's Hf doesn't mean that people can't legitimately townread him.
lol i'm aware of that, ows...and there are people in this game legitimately decent (at least above average for this general group of players) at reading hf. i'm one of them and i'm not certain. neither are others
like, it's not so much the hard townread as it is the hard townread from the start with no questioning it
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On July 14 2015 10:24 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 09:56 KelsierSC wrote:On July 14 2015 09:44 Trfel wrote:Adding ruXxar to the scum pool. + Show Spoiler [Reasons, if you're interested in…] +He scumread me (Trfel) without explaining his reasoning. He seemed to really want to lynch me (enough to repeat himself without prompting about it), but not enough to clearly state why, for people who hadn't read Student Mafia 11. Furthermore, his scumread on me was posted well after my opening post, and his vote was made even after that. This doesn't feel like a town mindset.
The first main push in the thread was Damdred's push on LightningStrike. RuXxar was one of the people who didn't say anything about the push. However, a few pages later, RuXxar seemed accepting of the push (asked LightningStrike what he was trying to say with his list of scott31337's games). He didn't mention LightningStrike again for a while, though. His interest in LightningStrike doesn't feel very high at all, which is strange, especially since he townread Damdred. If he didn't like the push, he should have said so; as it is, he gave himself room to jump on it later, while largely avoiding it.
His townread of Damdred and scott31337 seems to be for a trap, which made no sense whatsoever. Making a post that contains no relevant information or reads generally isn't a reason for someone to be town.
RuXxar switching his main scumread from me to Clarity_nl has several problems. First, it shows he wasn't really reading the game clearly, or he would have thought of this at the start, not only when someone mentioned something that had been said many times already. Second, why did he scumread and vote Clarity_nl and completely ignore Holyflare, while scumreading Clarity_nl for an association with Holyflare early on? His interest in Holyflare is nonexistant.
Then, instead of discussing his scumreads, he just says that everyone questioning or being suspicious of Clarity_nl is towny.
Yes, this is different from how he played last game (as mafia). But it's also very different from how he played as town. Having done well as scum last game, I can see him excited to play scum again (especially if it's with Holyflare again, as I suspect). And his early play is very, very hard to see from a town perspective, while the mafia motivation seems clear. can you explain the damdred, scott thing to me Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:00 ruXxar wrote:
Damdred if you start with tone reads and meta then I'm just done with you :p Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 06 2015 08:02 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 08:00 ruXxar wrote:
Damdred if you start with tone reads and meta then I'm just done with you :p Don't be bad meta is excellent especially with someone you know very well. Io think I've called ls alignment the past 9 games 100%. This early it's an excellent tool ls is acting scum,and had to be prompted to do his normal thing. I'm pretty sure he rolled,scum On July 06 2015 08:03 scott31337 wrote:On July 06 2015 08:00 ruXxar wrote:
Damdred if you start with tone reads and meta then I'm just done with you :p You need to let it go... Meta can be an amazing tool and on Day 1 with out votes it's quite helpful... Just like voting for BM since he rolls scum 80%+ y so serious? I love meta. #meta #meta #meta. (look at the spoilered quotes) Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:12 ruXxar wrote:
Top town at this point is damdred and Scott.
#BatTraps.
eh i'm not trying to be a wet blanket, trfel but this looks like it could easily just be trolling? if ruxx is scum, it's not for this lol ><
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On July 14 2015 11:49 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 14 2015 11:37 rsoultin wrote:
i think it's kinda obvious what trfel is saying, ows? (and a really good point, lol ><)
ruxxar just got out of a game where he was scum with hf and saw him somehow survive a red check through three consecutive day phases, so if anything he should at least be somewhat wary of hf's alignment? almost the entirety of the rest of the game is, and we've all seen hf play as both alignments numerous times. it's weird he's that certain
like if hf is town this game, i think ruxx buddying up like this and acting like his parrot is even scummier, to be completely honest I get the point, but I've been in the same position because I hard townread Hf in a game a long, long time ago right after he beat me as scum. Just because it's Hf doesn't mean that people can't legitimately townread him. lol i'm aware of that, ows...and there are people in this game legitimately decent (at least above average for this general group of players) at reading hf. i'm one of them and i'm not certain. neither are others like, it's not so much the hard townread as it is the hard townread from the start with no questioning it
I did not have a hard town read on HF early on.
HF is a person where I can't pick out a single statement and say "aha, this is mafiaesque".
When I judge HF it's based on his tendencies over a longer span of time.
I also got my first townread read on HF from the dispute between the two of you where I could easily associate with the motivation behind his questioning of trfel, and thought it made sense from a town perspective to push on trfel there.
The first time I put HF in my current towncircle is here, on page 234.
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On July 14 2015 11:49 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 14 2015 11:37 rsoultin wrote:
i think it's kinda obvious what trfel is saying, ows? (and a really good point, lol ><)
ruxxar just got out of a game where he was scum with hf and saw him somehow survive a red check through three consecutive day phases, so if anything he should at least be somewhat wary of hf's alignment? almost the entirety of the rest of the game is, and we've all seen hf play as both alignments numerous times. it's weird he's that certain
like if hf is town this game, i think ruxx buddying up like this and acting like his parrot is even scummier, to be completely honest I get the point, but I've been in the same position because I hard townread Hf in a game a long, long time ago right after he beat me as scum. Just because it's Hf doesn't mean that people can't legitimately townread him. lol i'm aware of that, ows...and there are people in this game legitimately decent (at least above average for this general group of players) at reading hf. i'm one of them and i'm not certain. neither are others like, it's not so much the hard townread as it is the hard townread from the start with no questioning it
I'm not voting ruxx because you guys think he isn't paranoid enough.
Try something else.
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meeeeeh if no one's here i'm going to stop spamming the thread on my lonesome and call down the blazingsmite!hand of doom
i agree with...marv, i think it was?...on viva, and am still pretty comfortable townreading him. i kinda think of him as a koshi-lite who flits from this to that and i don't think he should be included in any vig list (inb4 no one had him there and i'm just misremembering lol ><)
okay legitimately i'm having trouble >< i liked some of hf's direction today when he loosened up and despite harkon and hf both calling me an idiot, more or less, for thinking my play meant anything, i still think if hf is scum and i'm threatening to shoot him they might not want to gamble that i really am that brazen lol >< not as much a fan of him badgering at milo over and over again, though, when it was clear milo was going to ignore/troll us (yes i'm disregarding his treatment of me for objectivity's sake)
like there's a huge list of players who would be good vig shots here? i think i'd prefer scott just cause i'm going to want to lynch him tomorrow anyway xP but wave, ebh, kels, bf and yeah even trfel though i still think he's town would all be decent alternatives
apart from that...something about bf's posting this phase was throwing me off but i can't remember what it was? i dunnae. anyway, exam wednesday...i'll be sparse between now and then
ows it's something about the preachy awkward stiffyness in ruxx's posting and it's tone and i don't fucking know how to explain it except that it's wrong to me and this is what is so aggravating >< cause i don't know how to like, quantify shit that is unquantifiable
@ruxx - he wasn't questioning trfel. maybe you're a mindreader and can see browbeating as questioning, but i can't, and how quickly you jumped in to defend his "questioning" is suspect to me but i hardly want to talk about it because i'm trying to ignore that part of your play for now
^ clearly i refreshed before i posted this lol ><
dude, i don't know how you see a difference between how he browbeat me and fidei, confirmed town and how he's behaving here getting in pointless shitfights with not just me, but also harkon all but confirmed town and milo who we were lynching anyway. i'm not saying hf can't be town cause i'm doubting it myself, but i call bullshit on your supposed read
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explain your thought process at EoD1, ruxx
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On July 14 2015 12:23 rsoultin wrote:
explain your thought process at EoD1, ruxx
Are you refering to the voting between MZ and BM?
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On July 14 2015 12:27 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 12:23 rsoultin wrote:
explain your thought process at EoD1, ruxx Are you refering to the voting between MZ and BM?
yeeeees
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On July 14 2015 12:23 rsoultin wrote:
explain your thought process at EoD1, ruxx
So here's my thought process around majority lynching:
We do not win as town by not lynching.
If you do not lynch people, you can not win the game.
It's that simple.
My #1 priority every day is to make sure that we lynch someone.
The only thing I am 100% certain of this game is that I'm town.
If the option is between lynching someone who in my mind is 70% town or not lynching at all, then I'd rather lynch the guy that is 70% town.
As for the case between BM and MZ, it didn't really have an opinion either way.
BM hadn't said anything and MZ started talking too late for me to form a solid opinion on him.
Both were acceptable lynches in my mind.
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On July 08 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
You guys switching off MZ are not thinking clearly.
What if mafia switches off then don't switch back?
GG no-lynch.
On July 08 2015 06:49 Blazinghand wrote:Vote Count Meapak_Ziphh (8): ObiWanShinobi, marvellosity, ruXxar, Harkon, boxerfred, Vivax, milo109, WaveofShadow
Bill Murray (10): geript, Holyflare, rsoultin, Clarity_nl, Damdred, Scot31337 Half the Sky, Ritoky, Breshke, LightningStrike
ritoky (4): Palmar, Bill Murray, Oatsmaster, trfel
Clarity_nl (1): Meapak_Ziphh
Milo109 (1): KelsierSC
Trfel (1): XEliteBlueHunter69X
Not Voting (0):
Currently, no one is set to be lynched. With 25 alive it takes 13 to lynch. Day ends at Tuesday, Jul 07 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .
Voting is Mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link)
[B]On July 08 2015 07:00 ruXxar wrote: I'm not done with you rsoul. I'll reply to you in a bit.
and you were so concerned about this, and cared so little about who we lynched, that you decided to stay on mz's train despite him having the lesser votes?
xP doesn't seem much like you believed a word you were saying. or were you just not paying attention to the votecount while you afk'd?
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it bugged me then and it still bugs me now that you were making so much damn noise while doing nothing about it and essentially disappearing during the shenanigans. admittedly it means less knowing that both were town, but it still feels like you were just saying something because you felt you needed to say something
anyway, i'm out, guys. someone look at this and tell me if i'm tunneling or not, because this is what caught my eye (along with that stiff tone thing that i mentioned earler lol >< but i don't know how to really show that) when reviewing ruxx's filter
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On July 14 2015 13:18 rsoultin wrote:
it bugged me then and it still bugs me now that you were making so much damn noise while doing nothing about it and essentially disappearing during the shenanigans. admittedly it means less knowing that both were town, but it still feels like you were just saying something because you felt you needed to say something
anyway, i'm out, guys. someone look at this and tell me if i'm tunneling or not, because this is what caught my eye (along with that stiff tone thing that i mentioned earler lol >< but i don't know how to really show that) when reviewing ruxx's filter
Do you call that one comment noise?
Also, I was not constantly refreshing the vote thread checking the vote count.
Either way the day 1 lynch was a terrible mess.
I hope we don't wait until the last 30 minutes again to pick our lynch target because such chaos undeniably increases the chance of scum snap pushing mis lynches.
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Yeah that's a bit odd considering his earlier remarks on this very page about not wanting to no lynch. Apparently he didn't believe that day 1.
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Does no one else understand it?
RuXxar changed his top scumread from me (which he was pretty confident in) to Clarity_nl on the basis that Clarity_nl's opening post about Holyflare being town and them not being scum together looked planned ahead of time. Thus, they both have to be scum. This is the only reason for his scumread on Clarity_nl.
But, ruXxar wasn't scumreading Holyflare, and didn't seem at all interested in Holyflare's alignment. He only asked Holyflare one question and didn't state any read on him. But ruXxar's top scum read, Clarity_nl, who he was voting, only applied as long as Holyflare was also scum.
I have a ton of trouble seeing this come from town. Even if Holyflare is town.
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On July 06 2015 08:28 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote:
Clarity do you have any other reads so far? I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that. trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? Mmmm, seems like this was clearly pre-planned #scumlean. On July 06 2015 08:32 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:28 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:26 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
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I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that.
trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times
Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? what do you mean by interaction though you called hf town and then you reference how because of this "interaction" you cant both be scum OK I want to move past this as it's not really worth spending a lot of time on. If me and HF both roll scum, and HF enters the game going "Lol I thought I rolled cop but it's just the VT flavor" do you think I, as scum, would call my scum partner "totes town not lynching today"?What do you think of rsoultin? Specifically the way she's replied to me. If i was mafia etc etc, sounds like you actually thought about this beforehand. I'm changing my top scumread. ##Vote clarity. On July 06 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I like kelsier, geript and rsoul for going after clarity.
++townlean. On July 06 2015 09:33 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 09:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 09:30 ruXxar wrote:On July 06 2015 09:29 Holyflare wrote:
bla bla chess On July 06 2015 09:25 ruXxar wrote:@HF. What do you think about Clarity not wanting to lynch you? On July 06 2015 08:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
That's fine, just don't lynch HF or myself today and reevaluate tomorrow. Moving on.
WoS gave me a townread for being tryhard, whereas there's 3 people somewhat leaning towards me or whatever.
So is WoS just better than you guys, or is he scum? it doesn't bother me and i'm undecided about clarity because his question on wave is what i thought looking at wave's post hence why he's half mafia and half town time will tell Oki thanks  And the last post is all he says about Holyflare.
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I don't buy the mason explanation. He didn't move his vote, and Holyflare's answer says nothing at all useful about this, but ruXxar was content to drop the line of questioning anyway.
On July 06 2015 12:46 ruXxar wrote:The way that he hard defended holy fire and then used "but a mafia wouldn't do this" to excuse his actions. I think that sounds pre-planned. I got a scum vibe off that. After ruXxar got his answer from Holyflare, he still said this.
RuXxar did something that does not fit a town mindset at all, and has mafia motivation. Then, he explained it with an explanation that is very hard to believe.
RuXxar is mafia, I'm extremely confident in it.
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I am not enjoying this game.
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On July 14 2015 15:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I am not enjoying this game. Is there something that I missed in my analysis?
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It's really frustrating to know I was right about milo when I was writing my cases mid-day, wish I'd have been more stubborn and less tired at EoD.
Plumber mario walks away.
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Someone talk to me about ruXxar.
Either I missed something, or he's almost certainly scum.
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