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Vivax
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On July 14 2015 15:58 Trfel wrote: Someone talk to me about ruXxar. Either I missed something, or he's almost certainly scum. What about Scott, EBH, WoS? For clarity I actually see a chance he's town even though his case was sketchy as shit, so deifinitely the lowest of my priorities. | ||
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Trfel
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On July 14 2015 16:08 Vivax wrote: Scott31337 is a fair shot at scum, though probably the least certain of my scum reads.What about Scott, EBH, WoS? For clarity I actually see a chance he's town even though his case was sketchy as shit, so deifinitely the lowest of my priorities. I don't really know about XEliteBlueHunter69X or WaveofShadow, though I'm a little inclined to think that WaveofShadow is town? I think his early read on Clarity_nl and how he reacted to the pressure felt a little bit towny. Please talk to me about ruXxar. | ||
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Vivax
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On July 14 2015 16:10 Trfel wrote: Scott31337 is a fair shot at scum, though probably the least certain of my scum reads. I don't really know about XEliteBlueHunter69X or WaveofShadow, though I'm a little inclined to think that WaveofShadow is town? I think his early read on Clarity_nl and how he reacted to the pressure felt a little bit towny. Please talk to me about ruXxar. I just skimmed a bit of his himalayas filter for the first time and I actually think he's townish now. | ||
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Trfel
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On July 14 2015 16:16 Vivax wrote: How about the part where he made an associative scumread that two people are scum, but only scumread one of them? And explained it by saying he thought they could be masons, but continued to only scumread one of them after he said he had realized this?I just skimmed a bit of his himalayas filter for the first time and I actually think he's townish now. How about the part where this is also different from his play as town in Newbie Mafia 11 (it was his first game ever, look at the later parts of the game for a better representation)? How about the fact that he replaced into Himalayas after the game was well under way, and only towards the end of the game joined the discussion and posted more casually (more like he is in this game)? | ||
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Trfel
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This does suggest that he is town, but I don't think it's anywhere near as strong as the reasons to scumread him. | ||
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Vivax
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On July 14 2015 16:18 Trfel wrote: How about the part where he made an associative scumread that two people are scum, but only scumread one of them? And explained it by saying he thought they could be masons, but continued to only scumread one of them after he said he had realized this? How about the part where this is also different from his play as town in Newbie Mafia 11 (it was his first game ever, look at the later parts of the game for a better representation)? How about the fact that he replaced into Himalayas after the game was well under way, and only towards the end of the game joined the discussion and posted more casually (more like he is in this game)? His tone is way different. He's more earnest and synthetic in his posting in himalayas, you see that in the way he posts he cares much more about his appeareance. I doubt you will be able to sway me with what you say. | ||
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Trfel
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On July 14 2015 16:25 Vivax wrote: Are you talking about the start of his play in Himalayas, or the end? Or did you read all of it?His tone is way different. He's more earnest and synthetic in his posting in himalayas, you see that in the way he posts he cares much more about his appeareance. I doubt you will be able to sway me with what you say. | ||
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Vivax
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On July 14 2015 16:29 Trfel wrote: Are you talking about the start of his play in Himalayas, or the end? Or did you read all of it? No, I'm lazy atm. Just skimmed. I'd like to know why your play has been so unremerkable this game thoughh. You only started to put in some degree of effort now. | ||
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Trfel
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On July 14 2015 16:33 Vivax wrote: Well, I would really like you to read the end of his Himalayas filter. While the beginning does seem a bit reserved, in the middle he seems much more free in his thoughts, and by the end he is very conversational, free to share his thoughts, and has strong opinions. He wasn't hesitant to disagree and argue with people. To me, the confidence he displayed at the end of his scum game seems very similar to his play here.At least we've arrived at the stage where the politicians get NKd, so that should narrow down options between marv/HF/Harkon. I don't even want to bother about who of them is mafia until a few get killed. No, I'm lazy atm. Just skimmed. I'd like to know why your play has been so unremerkable this game thoughh. You only started to put in some degree of effort now. And his play here doesn't look like his town play, either. As town, he posted about a lot of different things and was always jumping all over the place. Here, early on he was extremely focused on certain reads, but didn't bother trying to explain them. In Student Mafia 11, ruXxar was posting interesting thoughts and always had a drive to solve the game, which I don't always see here. I think that my read on ruXxar is extremely strong. It's a short read, the important part is the inconsistency with regards to Clarity_nl and Holyflare, and how his explanation doesn't fit. Meanwhile, I really don't see how his meta and tone really indicates that he is town here, in fact I feel that it slightly suggests that he is mafia, but either way I think that this is a somewhat unreliable way of reading ruXxar. I'm not here to talk about myself, but because you asked: + Show Spoiler + You know I've been extremely lazy. Remember Carol of the Bells, where I basically afk'd through Day 1, Night 1, and most of Day 2? There were many, many worse games since then. Notable games are Down Under Mafia (both games), and Guardians of the Galaxy. Every single large game I've played in, I haven't been able to keep up at the start of the game. You'd think I would learn, but I haven't. Also, I'm home from college, now. I only started playing mafia when I was in college. I've been spending time with my family and my friends here, and this makes my schedule a lot harder to fit mafia in to. Since I returned from college, I've only played two games. One as a smurf (and I smurfed for two reasons: one, to try a new playstyle, and two, to play at a lesser standard (primarily activity). I felt that playing as a smurf would be a sign that I wasn't able to play to my full abilities, but many people just said "why didn't you play on your main account?", so I did. The other game was a fairly low-posting newbie game, and I was mafia. I just posted late and didn't bother arguing or interacting as much, so it didn't take as much time. Plus, it was a low-posting mini game. Then, I get into this large-game spamfest..... Anyway, I've talked to rsoultin about all of the above, so she can confirm it if necessary. Furthermore, I've had some real life issues since the game began. They aren't huge issues, but emotionally and mentally I'm a very weak person. If you don't believe it, ask rsoultin, or look at my coaching QT from Newbie Mafia 61, where I made a million posts of whining and ranting to Artanis[Xp]. My emotional behavior in this game turned someone away from TL Mafia, something I'm still upset about. I've been having some girl problems, problems interacting with my friends, and our family hosted a guest from Europe for the past few days. And I've been too far behind in the thread to want to try and catch up, especially with the lynches being seemingly set in stone, and me not having the thread knowledge/presence/mental strength to argue against them. | ||
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Vivax
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Harkon
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Bow down before me. | ||
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Vivax
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On July 14 2015 16:53 Harkon wrote: I survived both the mafia's and the host's attempt to kill me. I am therefore concluding that I am in fact invincible. Bow down before me. Aren't you the dude who said the cop is confirmed mafia | ||
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Trfel
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Harkon
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On July 14 2015 17:01 Vivax wrote: Aren't you the dude who said the cop is confirmed mafia No, I never said that. Not that it matters anyways. I am way more suspicious of the people suddenly defending milo when the lynch was set btw. | ||
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Trfel
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Harkon
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On July 14 2015 17:10 Trfel wrote: Harkon, is there an error in my read on ruXxar? I don't know if it is as ironclad as you seem to think but no, I don't think so. | ||
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Trfel
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Vivax
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On July 14 2015 17:09 Harkon wrote: No, I never said that. Not that it matters anyways. I am way more suspicious of the people suddenly defending milo when the lynch was set btw. On July 13 2015 00:25 Harkon wrote: We aren't lynching anyone but milo unless someone convinces me that he is not basically confirmed mafia snd I don't think that's even possible. That was when I posted my arguments on scott. And it's ridiculous you wanna scumread people for being right. When the majority of town has been led SO astray that the cop gets lynched there is no fucking reason for them to defend someone they KNOW is cop. It's like a gift. My jimmies are super rustled now that I know I could have actually picked a better lynch than what you and other people suggested on d1 and d3. But I know nobody listens to me even though I would have made a better decision on both days so my motivation is going towards zero as well. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 14 2015 17:22 Vivax wrote: That was when I posted my arguments on scott. And it's ridiculous you wanna scumread people for being right. When the majority of town has been led SO astray that the cop gets lynched there is no fucking reason for them to defend someone they KNOW is cop. It's like a gift. My jimmies are super rustled now that I know I could have actually picked a better lynch than what you and other people suggested on d1 and d3. But I know nobody listens to me even though I would have made a better decision on both days so my motivation is going towards zero as well. Yes, and that post was in regard to what I said about milo earlier -> he is basically confirmed scum unless there are 2 rbs (which I said was possible but very unlikely) - there is nothing wrong with that statement. If you want to keep throwing shit at confirmed town be my guest though. The bolded is pretty much complete bs. | ||
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