On July 11 2015 09:43 Clarity_nl wrote: Buuuuut, you're a smurf? Eh whatever, I think some people called you JAT on d1. You're nearly confirmed town in my eyes, just curious.
Do you currently think HF is likely scum?
Like I'm trying to imagine anyone else in this game playing the way he's played and I feel he would be a strong townread for anyone, is his scumgame really that good? >.< Don't wanna level myself, I think he's town, sticking to it for now.
yes his scumgame is that good
i know for whatever reason you seem to think my play is mafia-esque...haven't checked why and don't really care cause you're wrong by default...but the simple truth is he's hard to catch
just won himalayas when he was fucking red-checked...survived three days after the check. and ippo before that. in both i was one of the only ones pushing/distrusting him
the when we shitfight he's most likely scum read is pretty legit...lol >< and frankly, despite what ls and hf have both said this game, the reverse has never been true. ls fucking forgot this last game and lost the game for everyone...even after i flipped after calling out the entire scumteam two nights in a row
so yeah. if you wonder why i'm so easily frustrated, that's a major part of it. people want to hold me to this high-fluting standard of activity while ignoring my reads
So do you still read me as scum?
Yeah I'm getting more and more certain you're scum, I'll put my thoughts together at some point.
Remind me, are you onboard with lynching milo?
She not scum bro maybe you should check some of her past games when she was town and scum.
I'll be honest LS, confirmed town or no, I have a hard time putting much weight into what you say.
I am a honest person rsoultin can attest to me on that.
On July 11 2015 10:02 Clarity_nl wrote: Like why would you ever defend rsoultin in this spot unless you're super confident that she's town, I can't imagine that you are.
I pretty confident she's town both on her play and the rsoultin-holyflare rule which I had described in my earlier post about her.
On July 11 2015 23:29 marvellosity wrote: in any case there's no real resolution to the 1 or 2 RB debate.
i said earlier that scum would have had to have decided to push on to the thread of an unprecedented 2 RB world, which seems unlikely as a collective decision.
i can see the world, though, that a milo-scum just kinda did things of his own accord without thinking them through that much.
it would make what he did a poor decision, but players (on their own) make poor decisions all the time.
Which poor decision? He did the correct play as scum with claiming rb since it was not unlikely that we would have lynched ritoky before him. The clarity check was a play to get towncred and I don't think he would have ever kept it up.
On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote: The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did. I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.
just to clarify - are you able to make the distinction between anti-town and scummy?
townies do bad shit and anti-town shit ALL the time.
rsoultin is known to be pretty argumentative at the best of times
I'd say a good example of anti-town is LS outing his blue roles. But since he's known to do that in his meta, it can't be viewed as directly scummy.
I tried to come up with some reasons for what rsoultin was doing, and I came up with these:
1 rsoul is town, she and trfel are such close friends that she feels the need to defend him. She thinks her reads on him are correct and that his alignment should not be determined further.(anti-town)
2 rsoul is mafia defending/deflecting off town trfel because she is certain of his alignment and she knows he's an easy target. If he flips she will look good for defending him.(scummy)
3 rsoul is mafia together with trfel and deflecting off her partner .(scummy)
Tfrel and rsoul been playing together since November and they are good friends lol.(She talked to me in the past how she had to help Tfrel out on stuff through skype and stuff lol)
On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote: But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead.
Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky?
He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia.
If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
i would now be interested in your read on damdred
tell me what you think
I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
i would now be interested in your read on damdred
tell me what you think
I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS
sorry to keep distracing you
I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.
idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.
that was where i waffled?
like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs-
i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first"
hold on let me review something...
For MZ take a look at PYP: League of Legends mafia. He continuously antagonized the townies who pushed him and tried to ridicule them. Exactly like he did with marv here. It is actually one of the reasons why he is mafia.
LOL he is totes scum I saw some of this behavior of MZ in the first two pages of his filter LOL. I will more of it later but who I gave the gun to in the mean time: Shoot MZ or I will get town to lynch you.
On July 12 2015 02:52 Harkon wrote: Wtf happened to that post? Anyways. I just remember tagteaming MZ with Koshi. Koshi was such a joy to play with back then and also somewhat sane. Sadness.
i have never known a sane koshi :/
i kinda enjoy playing with him now, though ^^ i'm twisted that way i guess?
Well you told you like playing with assholes in general lol.
On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote: But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead.
Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky?
He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia.
If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
i would now be interested in your read on damdred
tell me what you think
I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
i would now be interested in your read on damdred
tell me what you think
I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS
sorry to keep distracing you
I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.
idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.
that was where i waffled?
like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs-
i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first"
hold on let me review something...
For MZ take a look at PYP: League of Legends mafia. He continuously antagonized the townies who pushed him and tried to ridicule them. Exactly like he did with marv here. It is actually one of the reasons why he is mafia.
LOL he is totes scum I saw some of this behavior of MZ in the first two pages of his filter LOL. I will more of it later but who I gave the gun to in the mean time: Shoot MZ or I will get town to lynch you.
On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote: But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead.
Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky?
He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia.
If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote: Would lynch Wave.
He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.
There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
i would now be interested in your read on damdred
tell me what you think
I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ohh also the post here: [quote]
zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).
But more on Wave later. <3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter
i would now be interested in your read on damdred
tell me what you think
I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.
do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS
sorry to keep distracing you
I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.
idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.
that was where i waffled?
like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs-
i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first"
hold on let me review something...
For MZ take a look at PYP: League of Legends mafia. He continuously antagonized the townies who pushed him and tried to ridicule them. Exactly like he did with marv here. It is actually one of the reasons why he is mafia.
LOL he is totes scum I saw some of this behavior of MZ in the first two pages of his filter LOL. I will more of it later but who I gave the gun to in the mean time: Shoot MZ or I will get town to lynch you.
On July 12 2015 03:27 Harkon wrote: Oh, don't worry. We are lynching milo tomorrow.
So how am I more confirmed scum than milo?
Meta bro meta op.
Dude you've never played with me, just bc marv tells you something doesn't mean he's right. If you pay attention to the PYP lol filter you'll realize the difference between the two.
The only person I've been remotely aggressive with this game is marv. PYP lol as well as other scum games I just fling shit everywhere. But then again I hate meta reads bc of wifom.
Rolf JAT and Marv said to check PYP League of Legends and here is some good gold from page 2 of your filter there:
On December 02 2013 15:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: How is this so hard MZ? Tell me how VE is helping the town. Where is he transparent and contributing to proving his towniness? Can you actually quote some posts of his and tell how they help the town instead of giving a textbook town qualities and say "VE fits into the category of people who do these things"?
Did you actually read what I wrote? Everyone acts "townie" slightly differently. In VE's case that is characterized by not very thought out posts, chain of conscious type posts, frustration and aggression when people call him scum, and genuine attempts at analysis. All of which are in this game. I'm not gonna go back and quote his entire post history. Forget for a second that he called you an annoying jerk-off and reread what he's written and tell me where the scum agenda is.
Another quote from this game towards confirm town Geript:
On July 10 2015 04:08 geript wrote: Either way I'm going to say this right now because I feel really strong about this.
NEVER FUCKING LYNCH WAVEOFSHADOW!!!!!! Seriously. IDK what it is and I can't explain it at all quite yet. But I will hate you forever if you lynch him. And I didn't feel super safe about him last game at all.
Maybe never lynch Holyflare. At best, I'd only consider him in Mylo (given milo/damdred/MZ). And even then I'm not sure I would. I'd have to think about a lot of things. But I had a strong townread on him early and I'm really struggling with a reason to exchange that in any way right now.
wave has literally all the trappings of an apathetic who's had a couple team members caught in the last day. Also Palmar had him on a scum list and I'm always inclined to give weight to dead Palmar's reads.
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