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On June 15 2015 01:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
So many facepalms.
I guess ruxxar isn't scum, can't see why scum would bther post in thread revealing they know a potential blue outed himself.
Ugh. Consider protection tonight accordingly, doctor
This is a blunder from either alignment caused by a lack of game understanding. Either alignment can make this mistake.
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On June 15 2015 02:05 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 01:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Nah, ruXxar posted way too fast in quick succession for it to be planned on his part. Not really wanting to make a big deal of this discussion, but...what's easier than posting in quick succession if you've "planned it"? lol
You just doubt me too much bb. Don't worry, I know how ruXxar thinks.
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On June 15 2015 02:05 batsnacks wrote:
n00bking you read a lot of newbie mafia X right? Who would you say your play style this game most closely resembles in that game?
That's a very unusual question. I guess I hadn't thought about it. Without going back to look at that thread, I guess I would say my play in this game is a closest match for...Rels, in that game? I remember often thinking that Breschke and Barakos were saying things that made me think they were Town. But they weren't always saying things that I had myself been thinking before they posted it. Rels was.
(P.S. I still can't believe you guys lynched Bill Murray over ninjabunnies. I was almost yelling at the screen, toward the end of that Phase. lol)
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On June 15 2015 02:05 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 02:00 Damdred wrote:
Ehhh I'm not sure.
I guess put ks in there instead Not impressed.
You never are baby
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On June 15 2015 02:26 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 02:05 batsnacks wrote:
n00bking you read a lot of newbie mafia X right? Who would you say your play style this game most closely resembles in that game? That's a very unusual question. I guess I hadn't thought about it. Without going back to look at that thread, I guess I would say my play in this game is a closest match for...Rels, in that game? I remember often thinking that Breschke and Barakos were saying things that made me think they were Town. But they weren't always saying things that I had myself been thinking before they posted it. Rels was. (P.S. I still can't believe you guys lynched Bill Murray over ninjabunnies. I was almost yelling at the screen, toward the end of that Phase. lol)
BM was a fine lynch he didn't do anything to prevent it and we had a green check on bunnies.
Your posting this game is very similar to boxerfred. He spent tons of effort speculating about roles instead of focusing on finding mafia and we all just gave him a pass because he was new and at least he was posting a lot.
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This is likely my final reads post before the daypost. This isn't a ranked list per se, all of the same colors/boldness are in the same tier I think though.
Batsnacks
Play fits previous town play exactly. I don't see any way in hell he pulls off that geript stuff as scum for multiple reasons, including but not limited to risking him looking like balls after the flip, or drawing further attention to those 'scum-mates' he would have apparently tried to save. I just don't see it.
Moosydoosy
For all of the reasons I've stated previously. Moosy's play has just been extremely consistent with a very new player overall. Yes it is POSSIBLE scum can replicate this, but not without messing up somewhere down the line and certainly not with this level of activity. (The caveat here which might have to be looked into eventually that I find kind of interesting is this 'bait' he pulled off recently. Is a Moosy who is so nooby as to not realize geript flipped town for example, able to pull off a play like that? Food for thought, but not tomorrow.)
Trfel Extremely solid play throughout the entirety of D1. Great case on Rels who we should still be lynching. Probably got caught up in geript shenanigans but maybe worth a look into.
RuxxarFor reasons previously stated. Do not agree with nooby even though it is possible it was all some sort of setup. Needs to stop talk about setup though and actually play this game properly to avoid stupid shit like what he pulled.
NoobkingAlso needs to stop talking about setup because it gets us absolutely nowhere. The most experienced of the apparent new players, but as often focused on completely irrelevant matters. When he does scumhunt it is in incredible detail and he is also pretty prominent in thread. Not as big a fan as I was earlier on in the game when I first townread him but still town.
Kickstart I think the problems here have been adequately summarized. He might be worth a vig shot or a check (cop obviously do whatever you want here) because as soon as he was universally townread he left the thread completely and more importantly everyone forgot about him for a long time. Pressure and/or removal likely necessary.
Oats I still lean townish on him because of his early play but he has fallen off immensely. This is alignment non-indicative for him though, but when he HAS been here he hasn't shown anywhere near the degree of effort shown before. I don't treat him the same as Kickstart here (who i'm leaning to the scum side on) because Kickstart started way higher and fell way further.
Damdred Just not even remotely what I'd expect from a player of his calibre. And I'm actually saying that here because he is probably the best player currently in this game. Very little effort, not amazing scumhunting. That being said he has been on the same page as me a lot this game which is a good sign, and I mostly liked his 'late night reads' post. He just needs to do more of it, especially if he's town and I get shot tonight. If he doesn't do more, he is likely coasting on his ability to try when attention is brought up and doesn't actually care what's happening in thread = scum.
Scott Some analysis, but also looking through his filter a lot of jabs and questioning that leads absolutely nowhere (feigning useful activity??) It feels as though he's attempting to figure out the game when around but liek many in the thread there's not a lot to go on. Need a lot more from him to cement things either way.
Rels Probably scum? The points brought up against him are still pretty damning though circumstantially I wonder how likely it is that we had two scum on the block D1 before the geript shenanigans. Still the scummiest of the lot aside from Sulf, so re-evaluate as necessary after Sulf lynch.
Sulfurus Lynch with fire tomorrow. I've called him out, geript called him out, he has still accomplished absolutely nothing warranting a townread. Shows up sporadically to attempt to deflect but does not actually contribute meaningfully.
Lynch target for tomorrow is Sulf. Do not stray the course ladies and gents. As far as the entirety of the team, anyone from the null list could apply here, and it's also possible I am wrong on one of my townreads, but only one. We didn't have an amazing start but we can easily recover from this. Scumhunting was really strong D1 we just have to keep it up as a whole and keep activity up.
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On June 15 2015 02:33 batsnacks wrote:
BM was a fine lynch he didn't do anything to prevent it and we had a green check on bunnies.
Well your green check was worth crap, huh? I will admit that I was not completely sure bunnies was scum. But I was still leaning scum, despite the green check. I was, however, completely sure Bill Murray was town. (Considerably more sure than I was that geript was Town in this game, where I made multiple attempts to save him from the noose.)
Anyway, I'm going to bail on that discussion too, because it's another one that I don't think is proving to be productive, for purposes of THIS game.
On June 15 2015 02:33 batsnacks wrote:Your posting this game is very similar to boxerfred. He spent tons of effort speculating about roles instead of focusing on finding mafia and we all just gave him a pass because he was new and at least he was posting a lot.
1) What was your purpose for asking me the question? it's not like you were going to get me to select boxerfred as my Newbie X doppelganger.
2) I also don't think you're going to try and say that I do not have quite a few posts in this game that are "focused on finding mafia"? I think you would find a whole lot of posts in my filter that revolve around using what has happened, and what's been said, to determine a player's alignment. And any time you can determine a player's alignment, it contributes to finding mafia.
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On June 15 2015 03:07 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 02:33 batsnacks wrote:
BM was a fine lynch he didn't do anything to prevent it and we had a green check on bunnies. Well your green check was worth crap, huh? I will admit that I was not completely sure bunnies was scum. But I was still leaning scum, despite the green check. I was, however, completely sure Bill Murray was town. (Considerably more sure than I was that geript was Town in this game, where I made multiple attempts to save him from the noose.) Anyway, I'm going to bail on that discussion too, because it's another one that I don't think is proving to be productive, for purposes of THIS game. Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 02:33 batsnacks wrote:Your posting this game is very similar to boxerfred. He spent tons of effort speculating about roles instead of focusing on finding mafia and we all just gave him a pass because he was new and at least he was posting a lot. 1) What was your purpose for asking me the question? it's not like you were going to get me to select boxerfred as my Newbie X doppelganger. 2) I also don't think you're going to try and say that I do not have quite a few posts in this game that are "focused on finding mafia"? I think you would find a whole lot of posts in my filter that revolve around using what has happened, and what's been said, to determine a player's alignment. And any time you can determine a player's alignment, it contributes to finding mafia.
I stopped reading your posts at the very start of the game and I don't think I'm alone in that. I did the same thing to boxerfred last game and boxerfred was mafia. I just assumed boxerfred was town because he posted a lot and appeared to be thinking critically about the nonsense he was posting, even though none of it helped town. You can be more useful by never mentioning roles again until someone claims.
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On June 15 2015 03:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Damdred Just not even remotely what I'd expect from a player of his calibre.
On June 14 2015 10:40 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 10:20 Trfel wrote:
Sulfurus, you need to say why you are scumreading me. You can't throw around suspicions with nothing behind them.
WaveofShadow, I don't understand how a player of your caliber can just vanish before the lynch and come back after it. You even came back after the later deadline. Can you please explain this? What the fuck does 'a player of my calibre' have to do with being present in thread, even IF 'a player of my calibre' even meant anything?
lol
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Wave is silly, I think,it's pretty obvious who's,getting shot tonight.
Bats go,with God and your mafia hinting skills.
But on a serious note. I really don't like noob I'm not sure what it is his posts just give me an odd feeling.
His posts seem helpful at points but don't really accomplish much, I will be echoing bats a bit. But for example his pushing to get the vig to shoot bats is extremely strange still to me.
And to an extent he lacks real,scum hunting overall to me.
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Nah, I think n00bKing's a townie. He's been decent at pressuring people although he's pretty bossy and gives way too much advice. Not to mention his posts are super wordy. Either way, I still think Rels/Sulfurus deserve another look. When Rels comes back, we should ask him to defend himself against Trfel's points. We should be able to get a read on the defense.
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On June 15 2015 03:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is likely my final reads post before the daypost. This isn't a ranked list per se, all of the same colors/boldness are in the same tier I think though.
Batsnacks
Play fits previous town play exactly. I don't see any way in hell he pulls off that geript stuff as scum for multiple reasons, including but not limited to risking him looking like balls after the flip, or drawing further attention to those 'scum-mates' he would have apparently tried to save. I just don't see it.
Moosydoosy
For all of the reasons I've stated previously. Moosy's play has just been extremely consistent with a very new player overall. Yes it is POSSIBLE scum can replicate this, but not without messing up somewhere down the line and certainly not with this level of activity. (The caveat here which might have to be looked into eventually that I find kind of interesting is this 'bait' he pulled off recently. Is a Moosy who is so nooby as to not realize geript flipped town for example, able to pull off a play like that? Food for thought, but not tomorrow.)
Trfel Extremely solid play throughout the entirety of D1. Great case on Rels who we should still be lynching. Probably got caught up in geript shenanigans but maybe worth a look into.
RuxxarFor reasons previously stated. Do not agree with nooby even though it is possible it was all some sort of setup. Needs to stop talk about setup though and actually play this game properly to avoid stupid shit like what he pulled.
NoobkingAlso needs to stop talking about setup because it gets us absolutely nowhere. The most experienced of the apparent new players, but as often focused on completely irrelevant matters. When he does scumhunt it is in incredible detail and he is also pretty prominent in thread. Not as big a fan as I was earlier on in the game when I first townread him but still town.
Kickstart I think the problems here have been adequately summarized. He might be worth a vig shot or a check (cop obviously do whatever you want here) because as soon as he was universally townread he left the thread completely and more importantly everyone forgot about him for a long time. Pressure and/or removal likely necessary.
Oats I still lean townish on him because of his early play but he has fallen off immensely. This is alignment non-indicative for him though, but when he HAS been here he hasn't shown anywhere near the degree of effort shown before. I don't treat him the same as Kickstart here (who i'm leaning to the scum side on) because Kickstart started way higher and fell way further.
Damdred Just not even remotely what I'd expect from a player of his calibre. And I'm actually saying that here because he is probably the best player currently in this game. Very little effort, not amazing scumhunting. That being said he has been on the same page as me a lot this game which is a good sign, and I mostly liked his 'late night reads' post. He just needs to do more of it, especially if he's town and I get shot tonight. If he doesn't do more, he is likely coasting on his ability to try when attention is brought up and doesn't actually care what's happening in thread = scum.
Scott Some analysis, but also looking through his filter a lot of jabs and questioning that leads absolutely nowhere (feigning useful activity??) It feels as though he's attempting to figure out the game when around but liek many in the thread there's not a lot to go on. Need a lot more from him to cement things either way.
Rels Probably scum? The points brought up against him are still pretty damning though circumstantially I wonder how likely it is that we had two scum on the block D1 before the geript shenanigans. Still the scummiest of the lot aside from Sulf, so re-evaluate as necessary after Sulf lynch.
Sulfurus Lynch with fire tomorrow. I've called him out, geript called him out, he has still accomplished absolutely nothing warranting a townread. Shows up sporadically to attempt to deflect but does not actually contribute meaningfully.
Lynch target for tomorrow is Sulf. Do not stray the course ladies and gents. As far as the entirety of the team, anyone from the null list could apply here, and it's also possible I am wrong on one of my townreads, but only one. We didn't have an amazing start but we can easily recover from this. Scumhunting was really strong D1 we just have to keep it up as a whole and keep activity up.
About sulfurus:
On June 14 2015 05:10 Sulfurus wrote:
Also don't feel bad if I don't answer your questions. I just don't feel like defending myself since I honestly feel my play is townie enough to speak for itself and I would rather find mafia for you guys to lynch afterwards.
On June 14 2015 05:11 Sulfurus wrote:
Like ask me questions if you want but there's no guarantee I'll answer.
Claims he's playing very town, but these statements are incongruent with that.
Don't care for this attitude, doesn't seem like a town player wanting to win.
Then after trfel makes a case against Rel :
On June 14 2015 05:17 Sulfurus wrote:
Are you kidding me! Do you see what trfel has done he just took the lynch away from scum!bats right under our noses and pitted town vs town.
Like what incentive do I have to do anything towny if it's just going to get rels lynched.
This make sulfurus and rel look bad together.
On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game.
Earlier he pushes really hard on batsnacks, which in itself is not strange, but then he uses me as an example of the towniest players in the game, when a lot of people disagreed.
It seems like a good excuse to bandwagon on my batsnacks push.
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You need to explain that a bit better instead of being totally dismissive.
Why is he so towns with examples and full reasoning please. Don't have to quote just refer I suppose
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On June 15 2015 03:48 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 03:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is likely my final reads post before the daypost. This isn't a ranked list per se, all of the same colors/boldness are in the same tier I think though.
Batsnacks
Play fits previous town play exactly. I don't see any way in hell he pulls off that geript stuff as scum for multiple reasons, including but not limited to risking him looking like balls after the flip, or drawing further attention to those 'scum-mates' he would have apparently tried to save. I just don't see it.
Moosydoosy
For all of the reasons I've stated previously. Moosy's play has just been extremely consistent with a very new player overall. Yes it is POSSIBLE scum can replicate this, but not without messing up somewhere down the line and certainly not with this level of activity. (The caveat here which might have to be looked into eventually that I find kind of interesting is this 'bait' he pulled off recently. Is a Moosy who is so nooby as to not realize geript flipped town for example, able to pull off a play like that? Food for thought, but not tomorrow.)
Trfel Extremely solid play throughout the entirety of D1. Great case on Rels who we should still be lynching. Probably got caught up in geript shenanigans but maybe worth a look into.
RuxxarFor reasons previously stated. Do not agree with nooby even though it is possible it was all some sort of setup. Needs to stop talk about setup though and actually play this game properly to avoid stupid shit like what he pulled.
NoobkingAlso needs to stop talking about setup because it gets us absolutely nowhere. The most experienced of the apparent new players, but as often focused on completely irrelevant matters. When he does scumhunt it is in incredible detail and he is also pretty prominent in thread. Not as big a fan as I was earlier on in the game when I first townread him but still town.
Kickstart I think the problems here have been adequately summarized. He might be worth a vig shot or a check (cop obviously do whatever you want here) because as soon as he was universally townread he left the thread completely and more importantly everyone forgot about him for a long time. Pressure and/or removal likely necessary.
Oats I still lean townish on him because of his early play but he has fallen off immensely. This is alignment non-indicative for him though, but when he HAS been here he hasn't shown anywhere near the degree of effort shown before. I don't treat him the same as Kickstart here (who i'm leaning to the scum side on) because Kickstart started way higher and fell way further.
Damdred Just not even remotely what I'd expect from a player of his calibre. And I'm actually saying that here because he is probably the best player currently in this game. Very little effort, not amazing scumhunting. That being said he has been on the same page as me a lot this game which is a good sign, and I mostly liked his 'late night reads' post. He just needs to do more of it, especially if he's town and I get shot tonight. If he doesn't do more, he is likely coasting on his ability to try when attention is brought up and doesn't actually care what's happening in thread = scum.
Scott Some analysis, but also looking through his filter a lot of jabs and questioning that leads absolutely nowhere (feigning useful activity??) It feels as though he's attempting to figure out the game when around but liek many in the thread there's not a lot to go on. Need a lot more from him to cement things either way.
Rels Probably scum? The points brought up against him are still pretty damning though circumstantially I wonder how likely it is that we had two scum on the block D1 before the geript shenanigans. Still the scummiest of the lot aside from Sulf, so re-evaluate as necessary after Sulf lynch.
Sulfurus Lynch with fire tomorrow. I've called him out, geript called him out, he has still accomplished absolutely nothing warranting a townread. Shows up sporadically to attempt to deflect but does not actually contribute meaningfully.
Lynch target for tomorrow is Sulf. Do not stray the course ladies and gents. As far as the entirety of the team, anyone from the null list could apply here, and it's also possible I am wrong on one of my townreads, but only one. We didn't have an amazing start but we can easily recover from this. Scumhunting was really strong D1 we just have to keep it up as a whole and keep activity up. About sulfurus: Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:10 Sulfurus wrote:
Also don't feel bad if I don't answer your questions. I just don't feel like defending myself since I honestly feel my play is townie enough to speak for itself and I would rather find mafia for you guys to lynch afterwards. Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:11 Sulfurus wrote:
Like ask me questions if you want but there's no guarantee I'll answer. Claims he's playing very town, but these statements are incongruent with that. Don't care for this attitude, doesn't seem like a town player wanting to win. Then after trfel makes a case against Rel : Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:17 Sulfurus wrote:
Are you kidding me! Do you see what trfel has done he just took the lynch away from scum!bats right under our noses and pitted town vs town.
Like what incentive do I have to do anything towny if it's just going to get rels lynched.
This make sulfurus and rel look bad together. Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. Earlier he pushes really hard on batsnacks, which in itself is not strange, but then he uses me as an example of the towniest players in the game, when a lot of people disagreed. It seems like a good excuse to bandwagon on my batsnacks push.
I can't understand a world where both bats and sulfurus are mafia together, so if sulfurus is mafia then there's no way that bats can be too.
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On June 15 2015 02:33 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 02:26 n00bKing wrote:On June 15 2015 02:05 batsnacks wrote:
n00bking you read a lot of newbie mafia X right? Who would you say your play style this game most closely resembles in that game? That's a very unusual question. I guess I hadn't thought about it. Without going back to look at that thread, I guess I would say my play in this game is a closest match for...Rels, in that game? I remember often thinking that Breschke and Barakos were saying things that made me think they were Town. But they weren't always saying things that I had myself been thinking before they posted it. Rels was. (P.S. I still can't believe you guys lynched Bill Murray over ninjabunnies. I was almost yelling at the screen, toward the end of that Phase. lol) BM was a fine lynch he didn't do anything to prevent it and we had a green check on bunnies. Your posting this game is very similar to boxerfred. He spent tons of effort speculating about roles instead of focusing on finding mafia and we all just gave him a pass because he was new and at least he was posting a lot.
I don't know if he read the mafia QT either, but it was all a ruse to get newbtowncred. This brings up a very good point.
So even in my question to rels (who has not answered yet) Sulfurus still hasn't posted anything. All there is are a couple posts on lynch Trfel (who I townread and is mostly townread at this time) so I'm doubtful this is going to happen. - so make a case or try again.
I'm down for a Sulf or a Rels lynch.
Where I'm at -
BS looks- okay? even if we was incorrect
Damdred is trying to solve the game
WoS and Trfel are up there as well, I like WoS list post.
Oats has a little defensive attitude, but slight town also
Kickstart just feels so much more different then his last game as town which makes me wonder about him
n00bking is a slight town read but a lot of wordy fluff in his posts
Moosy I'm still a toss up on
Ruxxar - His bluehunting was terrible. I want to smack him in the head with a trout. Donkey town?
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On June 15 2015 03:48 Damdred wrote:
You need to explain that a bit better instead of being totally dismissive.
Why is he so towns with examples and full reasoning please. Don't have to quote just refer I suppose
Was this directed at me?
If so, not sure I understood your request.
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On June 15 2015 03:55 scott31337 wrote:
Ruxxar - His bluehunting was terrible. I want to smack him in the head with a trout. Donkey town?
Hahahahahahah Donkey town hahahahaha.
*wipes tears*.
Yup that's pretty accurate.
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No I don't think so. Moosey just said he was town,and wanted him to elaborate and show why he thought it specifically
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On June 15 2015 03:59 Damdred wrote:
No I don't think so. Moosey just said he was town,and wanted him to elaborate and show why he thought it specifically
Alright brb after reading through 5 pages of lengthy posts from n00bking. T.T
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Okay, did a reading of n00bKing and I don't think he's Mafia.
Personality read: Likes to be in control, dislikes change, rather bossy. As can be evidenced in his posts lamenting changes in people's opinion, how he gives so much advice, and how he always tries and tell people what to do. I think his personality is what affects so much of his posting which is why most of it is convoluted and he feels the need to pursue even the trivial. Like really? Arguing with batsnacks over "advice"?
Town read: Very consistent. At the start, yes he floods the thread with advice, but when he starts pressuring people, he remains consistent. It seems that he suspected batsnacks, me, and Plants at the start for our behavior and strange post(s). As the game continues and even to this very point, he has been pressuring me and batsnacks and has remained consistent in doing so.
In fact, this may be his downfall more than most. While it seems that he agrees that Rels/Sulf exhibit suspicious behavior, he still seems intent on finding ways to bring me and batsnacks down per how he read us at the very start of the thread. As for other people's posts, he seems content to question a couple but mostly agree or add on to their posts.
Conclusion: n00bking's filter just shows consistency in what he's been doing. He gets caught in the trivial, he's bossy, and he gave a bit too much advice at the start, but he is definitely a townie that's trying to catch the Mafia.
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