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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 22 2015 09:54 GMT
#2421
It's not wifom, it's common sense.

Also, why bother offering me the out that if I have another similar cop game you will believe me when clearly the only thing that will make you vote wave is a mod announcement that I'm cop.

This is complete bullshit from rels,
Not from trfel and kickstart, they are town.
No gg, No skill.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2015 09:58 GMT
#2422
On June 22 2015 18:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
I'm mafia and I fakeclaim cop, now my partner has to take a side and correctly read town sentiment for a pretty damn low chance at winning the game right here. And if we get it wrong, we lose.

It just makes 0 sense. Sure the gain is that mafia win, but it's a really awkward fake claim to make.

You're right, your partner must have tried to influence town sentiment ...
On June 22 2015 09:13 Kickstart wrote:
I figured there would be a cop claim. I was paranoid before I went to sleep earlier that since there was no cop claim from anyone yet that mafia could use it for an easy win. In general I would instantly believe a quick claim that seemed to make sense but Oats really did poorly in waiting so long in the position he was in. Now I have to look at his claimed checks and how he played after them and see if it makes sense.

From what I can remember an Oats cop may make sense. He was pushing on bats so hard day 1 so a check there makes sense, and the fact that after that he doesn't push scum bats ahain from what I can remember. I personally don't think I check on me makes sense after the sulf lynch but I suppose in a position where I am tunneling you really fucking hard you may be inclined to do so. Wave or trfel check dunno.

Thing like this really requires actually reading through the thread and not just his filter; fml. I knew there would be a claim today and I knew it was going to be hard to believe because either side was going to be able to do it, maybe I should have fakeclaimed first D:

On June 22 2015 09:14 Kickstart wrote:
Well a nolynch from a cop actually makes sense. It would save him from getting lynched and he probably wouldnt be killed since everyone wants him dead anyways and it gives him another night to check someone else. Surely you could figure that out Ruxxar ^^.

On June 22 2015 09:16 Kickstart wrote:
Actually, a no lynch right now might be an easy way to tell if his claim is true. If it is true, mafia really have to kill him. I mean they could try to next level us and not kill him but that would be really risky as he could hit the last scum with his check or confirm somebody.

Want to hear everyone elses thoughts on a no lynch to give oats cop (if he is) another check.

On June 22 2015 09:20 Kickstart wrote:
Actually a mafia roleblocker is possible which would just fuck everything. They roleblock him and kill me or something and we have no more info than before and no way to confirm oats. Arghhh I dunno. There must be a way to solve this around oats cop claim D:

Gonna go eat and think about it.

On June 22 2015 13:06 Kickstart wrote:
Yeah I thought about it and as much as it pains me I think the most logical thing has to be to trust Oats claim. I think given his stated checks the way he has played around them is reasonable and this explains some of the recent problems I had with Waves postings. Some things that really threw me off were some of Waves reads recently but I had him as such a town read that I didn't give them the proper thought. The main thing being his hard defense of Rels which I really didn't see as justifiable. But if he is scum and Rels is his buddy then it makes perfect sense. I also had trouble with his Damdred read but obviously some townies got that wrong as well.
I suggest people read his filter, especially recently and see what they think and if they come to the same conclusion as I do.



If Oats fakeclaimed I will just never play with him again sigh.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2015 10:06 GMT
#2423
On June 22 2015 13:06 Kickstart wrote:
I think given his stated checks the way he has played around them is reasonable and this explains some of the recent problems I had with Waves postings. Some things that really threw me off were some of Waves reads recently but I had him as such a town read that I didn't give them the proper thought. The main thing being his hard defense of Rels which I really didn't see as justifiable. But if he is scum and Rels is his buddy then it makes perfect sense. I also had trouble with his Damdred read but obviously some townies got that wrong as well.

@Kickstart: what is your "recent problems" you had with Wave's posting ? Is it only his hard defense of me ? Or is there something else ? Please expand.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 22 2015 10:12 GMT
#2424
Lol how about we deal with today first huh rels.

I'm cop guys please. Please don't make me feel bad because I'm pretty much the only reason we lose.
No gg, No skill.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2015 10:15 GMT
#2425
On June 22 2015 19:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol how about we deal with today first huh rels.

OK. See you in 12 hours for deadline then. We'll talk about Kickstart and others without you.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 22 2015 10:21 GMT
#2426
Yeah rels is either mafia or retarded and I don't think hes retarded.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 22 2015 10:22 GMT
#2427
I'm like so sure Rels is mafia I'm tempted to drop the Oats copclaim and lynch him.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 22 2015 10:24 GMT
#2428
Right now this is my world:

#1 Either Oats and Kickstart is mafia.
#2 Rels and Wave is mafia.

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2015 10:24 GMT
#2429
Yo Kickstart. Can you answer a question of mine for once please.

Like yes, I'm scumreading you, but things can change between now and EOD5. So please have a conversation with me.

On June 22 2015 19:06 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 13:06 Kickstart wrote:
I think given his stated checks the way he has played around them is reasonable and this explains some of the recent problems I had with Waves postings. Some things that really threw me off were some of Waves reads recently but I had him as such a town read that I didn't give them the proper thought. The main thing being his hard defense of Rels which I really didn't see as justifiable. But if he is scum and Rels is his buddy then it makes perfect sense. I also had trouble with his Damdred read but obviously some townies got that wrong as well.

@Kickstart: what is your "recent problems" you had with Wave's posting ? Is it only his hard defense of me ? Or is there something else ? Please expand.

Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 22 2015 10:29 GMT
#2430
K so we got 2 retards. Literally been fighting with oats all game and trying to lynch hi mand have him set to lynched now and they both think its a me and oats scumteam? And both seem to be oblivious to the fact that if oats is in fact town and he is telling the truth then we just lost already, but in light of that fact they would rather get me riled up than try and figure out the oats claim.

@Rels I explained my fucking problems with him in that very post. His HARD defense of you and to a lesser extend his Damdred read. Both of which were are completely illogical.

Rels is scum here.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2015 10:31 GMT
#2431
On June 22 2015 19:29 Kickstart wrote:
@Rels I explained my fucking problems with him in that very post. His HARD defense of you and to a lesser extend his Damdred read. Both of which were are completely illogical.

OK so that was really all your explanations. Seems super light to me to completely reverse your read of WOS.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2015 10:32 GMT
#2432
On June 22 2015 17:42 Kickstart wrote:
It just baffles me as the only thing everyone should be discussing and putting their energy into is figuring out if Oats is indeed the cop.

On June 22 2015 19:22 Kickstart wrote:
I'm like so sure Rels is mafia I'm tempted to drop the Oats copclaim and lynch him.

OK
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2015 10:33 GMT
#2433
On June 22 2015 19:21 Kickstart wrote:
Yeah rels is either mafia or retarded and I don't think hes retarded.


On June 22 2015 19:29 Kickstart wrote:
K so we got 2 retards.

[...]

Rels is scum here.

So am I retard or mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2015 10:34 GMT
#2434
On June 22 2015 19:29 Kickstart wrote:
And both seem to be oblivious to the fact that if oats is in fact town and he is telling the truth then we just lost already, but in light of that fact they would rather get me riled up than try and figure out the oats claim.

Can't speak for ruxxar, but that's not true for me. I started the day by analyzing Oats.

Now that I'm sure he's mafia, I can talk about something else, as my read of him won't change.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2015 10:35 GMT
#2435
ROFL BTW.
On June 22 2015 17:42 Kickstart wrote:
It just baffles me as the only thing everyone should be discussing and putting their energy into is figuring out if Oats is indeed the cop.

On June 22 2015 19:22 Kickstart wrote:
I'm like so sure Rels is mafia I'm tempted to drop the Oats copclaim and lynch him.

On June 22 2015 19:29 Kickstart wrote:
And both seem to be oblivious to the fact that if oats is in fact town and he is telling the truth then we just lost already, but in light of that fact they would rather get me riled up than try and figure out the oats claim.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 22 2015 10:35 GMT
#2436
AGain you are focusing on the completely wrong things Rels; I just don't get it. The wave read is completely secondary to the Oats claim.

THE ENTIRE GAME IS DECIDED BY WHETHER OR NOT WE BELEIVE OATS CLAIM. WAVE BEING TOWN OR SCUM RELIES ON IF OATS IS TELLING THE TRUTH OR NOT. ME THINKING OATS COULD BE TELLING THE TRUTH AND HAVING ISSUES WITH WAVES POSTINGS KIND OF VALIDATES HIS CLAIM.

It really isn't that hard to understand. And again you are being ridiculous with questioning me when the entire game is decided by how we handle oats claim right now. You do realize town has to get this lynch right and hit scum or we automatically lose right? You seem to be just ignoring that fact and focusing on shit that doesn't matter.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2015 10:36 GMT
#2437
On June 22 2015 19:35 Kickstart wrote:
AGain you are focusing on the completely wrong things Rels; I just don't get it. The wave read is completely secondary to the Oats claim.

THE ENTIRE GAME IS DECIDED BY WHETHER OR NOT WE BELEIVE OATS CLAIM. WAVE BEING TOWN OR SCUM RELIES ON IF OATS IS TELLING THE TRUTH OR NOT. ME THINKING OATS COULD BE TELLING THE TRUTH AND HAVING ISSUES WITH WAVES POSTINGS KIND OF VALIDATES HIS CLAIM.

It really isn't that hard to understand. And again you are being ridiculous with questioning me when the entire game is decided by how we handle oats claim right now. You do realize town has to get this lynch right and hit scum or we automatically lose right? You seem to be just ignoring that fact and focusing on shit that doesn't matter.

You're right.

But as I said, my mind is closed about Oats. I analyzed his lies and agrees with Trfel's analysis. So your "I should be focused on Oats" is not true anymore.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 22 2015 10:37 GMT
#2438
I want wave to answer a question:

Wave: do you think I'm mafia?
Please give some reasons for why/why not.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 22 2015 10:39 GMT
#2439
It is true until he flips.
Literally in no world is a me/sulf/oats scumteam even remotely viable given how I interacted with them this game. The fact that you and ruxxar think that is the most likely setup is ridiculous.

But whatever, I think Oats is scum too so my vote stays there and I go to sleep now. But if Oats does flip scum and we continue on you really made yourself look awfully scummy today. Though ruXxar didn't do himself any favors either.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 22 2015 10:40 GMT
#2440
On June 22 2015 19:35 Kickstart wrote:
AGain you are focusing on the completely wrong things Rels; I just don't get it. The wave read is completely secondary to the Oats claim.

THE ENTIRE GAME IS DECIDED BY WHETHER OR NOT WE BELEIVE OATS CLAIM. WAVE BEING TOWN OR SCUM RELIES ON IF OATS IS TELLING THE TRUTH OR NOT. ME THINKING OATS COULD BE TELLING THE TRUTH AND HAVING ISSUES WITH WAVES POSTINGS KIND OF VALIDATES HIS CLAIM.

It really isn't that hard to understand. And again you are being ridiculous with questioning me when the entire game is decided by how we handle oats claim right now. You do realize town has to get this lynch right and hit scum or we automatically lose right? You seem to be just ignoring that fact and focusing on shit that doesn't matter.

Don't know why you are trying so hard to make me understand when you are convinced I'm mafia. Do you not really think I'm mafia ? How much percent do you believe it ? 50% ? 100% ?
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