Newbie Student Mafia XI - Page 122

On June 22 2015 18:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
I'm mafia and I fakeclaim cop, now my partner has to take a side and correctly read town sentiment for a pretty damn low chance at winning the game right here. And if we get it wrong, we lose.

It just makes 0 sense. Sure the gain is that mafia win, but it's a really awkward fake claim to make.

On June 22 2015 09:13 Kickstart wrote:
I figured there would be a cop claim. I was paranoid before I went to sleep earlier that since there was no cop claim from anyone yet that mafia could use it for an easy win. In general I would instantly believe a quick claim that seemed to make sense but Oats really did poorly in waiting so long in the position he was in. Now I have to look at his claimed checks and how he played after them and see if it makes sense.

From what I can remember an Oats cop may make sense. He was pushing on bats so hard day 1 so a check there makes sense, and the fact that after that he doesn't push scum bats ahain from what I can remember. I personally don't think I check on me makes sense after the sulf lynch but I suppose in a position where I am tunneling you really fucking hard you may be inclined to do so. Wave or trfel check dunno.

Thing like this really requires actually reading through the thread and not just his filter; fml. I knew there would be a claim today and I knew it was going to be hard to believe because either side was going to be able to do it, maybe I should have fakeclaimed first D:

On June 22 2015 09:14 Kickstart wrote:
Well a nolynch from a cop actually makes sense. It would save him from getting lynched and he probably wouldnt be killed since everyone wants him dead anyways and it gives him another night to check someone else. Surely you could figure that out Ruxxar ^^.

On June 22 2015 09:16 Kickstart wrote:
Actually, a no lynch right now might be an easy way to tell if his claim is true. If it is true, mafia really have to kill him. I mean they could try to next level us and not kill him but that would be really risky as he could hit the last scum with his check or confirm somebody.

Want to hear everyone elses thoughts on a no lynch to give oats cop (if he is) another check.

On June 22 2015 09:20 Kickstart wrote:
Actually a mafia roleblocker is possible which would just fuck everything. They roleblock him and kill me or something and we have no more info than before and no way to confirm oats. Arghhh I dunno. There must be a way to solve this around oats cop claim D:

Gonna go eat and think about it.

On June 22 2015 13:06 Kickstart wrote:
Yeah I thought about it and as much as it pains me I think the most logical thing has to be to trust Oats claim. I think given his stated checks the way he has played around them is reasonable and this explains some of the recent problems I had with Waves postings. Some things that really threw me off were some of Waves reads recently but I had him as such a town read that I didn't give them the proper thought. The main thing being his hard defense of Rels which I really didn't see as justifiable. But if he is scum and Rels is his buddy then it makes perfect sense. I also had trouble with his Damdred read but obviously some townies got that wrong as well.
I suggest people read his filter, especially recently and see what they think and if they come to the same conclusion as I do.



If Oats fakeclaimed I will just never play with him again sigh.

On June 22 2015 13:06 Kickstart wrote:
I think given his stated checks the way he has played around them is reasonable and this explains some of the recent problems I had with Waves postings. Some things that really threw me off were some of Waves reads recently but I had him as such a town read that I didn't give them the proper thought. The main thing being his hard defense of Rels which I really didn't see as justifiable. But if he is scum and Rels is his buddy then it makes perfect sense. I also had trouble with his Damdred read but obviously some townies got that wrong as well.

On June 22 2015 19:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol how about we deal with today first huh rels.

On June 22 2015 19:06 Rels wrote:

@Kickstart: what is your "recent problems" you had with Wave's posting ? Is it only his hard defense of me ? Or is there something else ? Please expand.

On June 22 2015 19:29 Kickstart wrote:
@Rels I explained my fucking problems with him in that very post. His HARD defense of you and to a lesser extend his Damdred read. Both of which were are completely illogical.

On June 22 2015 17:42 Kickstart wrote:
It just baffles me as the only thing everyone should be discussing and putting their energy into is figuring out if Oats is indeed the cop.

On June 22 2015 19:22 Kickstart wrote:
I'm like so sure Rels is mafia I'm tempted to drop the Oats copclaim and lynch him.

On June 22 2015 19:21 Kickstart wrote:
Yeah rels is either mafia or retarded and I don't think hes retarded.

On June 22 2015 19:29 Kickstart wrote:
K so we got 2 retards.

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Rels is scum here.

On June 22 2015 19:29 Kickstart wrote:
And both seem to be oblivious to the fact that if oats is in fact town and he is telling the truth then we just lost already, but in light of that fact they would rather get me riled up than try and figure out the oats claim.

On June 22 2015 17:42 Kickstart wrote:
It just baffles me as the only thing everyone should be discussing and putting their energy into is figuring out if Oats is indeed the cop.

On June 22 2015 19:22 Kickstart wrote:
I'm like so sure Rels is mafia I'm tempted to drop the Oats copclaim and lynch him.

On June 22 2015 19:29 Kickstart wrote:
And both seem to be oblivious to the fact that if oats is in fact town and he is telling the truth then we just lost already, but in light of that fact they would rather get me riled up than try and figure out the oats claim.

On June 22 2015 19:35 Kickstart wrote:
AGain you are focusing on the completely wrong things Rels; I just don't get it. The wave read is completely secondary to the Oats claim.

THE ENTIRE GAME IS DECIDED BY WHETHER OR NOT WE BELEIVE OATS CLAIM. WAVE BEING TOWN OR SCUM RELIES ON IF OATS IS TELLING THE TRUTH OR NOT. ME THINKING OATS COULD BE TELLING THE TRUTH AND HAVING ISSUES WITH WAVES POSTINGS KIND OF VALIDATES HIS CLAIM.

It really isn't that hard to understand. And again you are being ridiculous with questioning me when the entire game is decided by how we handle oats claim right now. You do realize town has to get this lynch right and hit scum or we automatically lose right? You seem to be just ignoring that fact and focusing on shit that doesn't matter.

On June 22 2015 19:35 Kickstart wrote:
AGain you are focusing on the completely wrong things Rels; I just don't get it. The wave read is completely secondary to the Oats claim.

THE ENTIRE GAME IS DECIDED BY WHETHER OR NOT WE BELEIVE OATS CLAIM. WAVE BEING TOWN OR SCUM RELIES ON IF OATS IS TELLING THE TRUTH OR NOT. ME THINKING OATS COULD BE TELLING THE TRUTH AND HAVING ISSUES WITH WAVES POSTINGS KIND OF VALIDATES HIS CLAIM.

It really isn't that hard to understand. And again you are being ridiculous with questioning me when the entire game is decided by how we handle oats claim right now. You do realize town has to get this lynch right and hit scum or we automatically lose right? You seem to be just ignoring that fact and focusing on shit that doesn't matter.