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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2015 13:36 GMT
#2361
On June 21 2015 19:21 Rels wrote:
OK oats I'll reread everything tomorrow before taking a stance. But you lied in this post.
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 18:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause it would be super weird for me to suddenly town read someone I've kinda semi scum read the whole game.

That is exactly what you did day 3 to kickstart.

But i had ample reason to do so then so it doesnt look suspicious.
. Before that, kickstart didnt really look all thattttt townie because he just wanted to lynch me.
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
June 21 2015 14:03 GMT
#2362
So I just noticed something interesting.
The timing of oats claim comes after he can be sure town doesn't have a cop.
He waits for everyone in the town to have posted to confirm rather than claim early in the day.

You ask 'but wave, everyone had posted already waayyy before oats claimed!' Look at the timing of trfels post. He posts and leaves before the idea of cop claiming comes up. Oats waits until he posts the second time to be absolutely sure its safe. (This actually means trfel is probably town?)

It's obvious to me where votes need to be today. I have proof now oats is scum but the rest of you need to choose one way or another. Objectively the claim and his 'proof' is awful but I suppose im just biased considering my position. Either way i'm not going to spend what time I have arguing with him either so you guys can do what you feel is right and I'm going to do what I can to help find the final scum. Probably not much until tomorrow though as its fathers day today.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 14:14 GMT
#2363
On June 21 2015 17:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm going to tell you something you're not going to like. I'm done with you. I don't see how a town Oats could possibly play THIS horribly. Even for you. It reeks of scummy desperation and a bad choice of mislynch.
##vote: Oatsmaster

Trfel/Ruxxar you're next.



What do you mean by this?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2015 14:15 GMT
#2364
On June 21 2015 23:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
So I just noticed something interesting.
The timing of oats claim comes after he can be sure town doesn't have a cop.
He waits for everyone in the town to have posted to confirm rather than claim early in the day.

You ask 'but wave, everyone had posted already waayyy before oats claimed!' Look at the timing of trfels post. He posts and leaves before the idea of cop claiming comes up. Oats waits until he posts the second time to be absolutely sure its safe. (This actually means trfel is probably town?)

It's obvious to me where votes need to be today. I have proof now oats is scum but the rest of you need to choose one way or another. Objectively the claim and his 'proof' is awful but I suppose im just biased considering my position. Either way i'm not going to spend what time I have arguing with him either so you guys can do what you feel is right and I'm going to do what I can to help find the final scum. Probably not much until tomorrow though as its fathers day today.

Dude, i claimed because everyone called me mafia.
I was thinking that I could get you lynched then we pretty much win the game.

I have no proof. You expect breadcrumbs? I never crumb.

Now even after we lynch you, I dont get any more checks.

Also, why isnt this your first post after I claim huh? Your reaction was really really bad.

and the final nail in the coffin.

So I just noticed something interesting.

from townwave's perspective, Im fake. So there clearly must be something to prove that Im fakeclaiming. but he JUST notices something "wrong"? 8 hours after I claim?

No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
June 21 2015 14:33 GMT
#2365
Unfortunately shouting 'I know im town therefore oats must be scum' isn't helpful to everyone else that doesn't know my alignment. I've already shown two ways that you're faking it. Your explanation of your scum reading kickstart is horseshit.

Go ahead and explain away and bring all the horseshit you need to. Hopefully town doesn't buy into it but at least I'm doing all I can.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 14:36 GMT
#2366
On June 21 2015 13:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Scum between Oats/Trfel/Ruxxar
ezpz.
66% chance boyysssss


Make me a case on why Trfel could be mafia, I'd like to hear it.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2015 14:53 GMT
#2367
On June 21 2015 23:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Unfortunately shouting 'I know im town therefore oats must be scum' isn't helpful to everyone else that doesn't know my alignment. I've already shown two ways that you're faking it. Your explanation of your scum reading kickstart is horseshit.

Go ahead and explain away and bring all the horseshit you need to. Hopefully town doesn't buy into it but at least I'm doing all I can.

For like the 3rd damn time, why would I fakeclaim such a shitty check?
I havent seen any answers from anyone.

You dont seem worried that being lynched means town lose the game.
You dont seem worried at all.


No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 15:33 GMT
#2368
On June 21 2015 23:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 23:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Unfortunately shouting 'I know im town therefore oats must be scum' isn't helpful to everyone else that doesn't know my alignment. I've already shown two ways that you're faking it. Your explanation of your scum reading kickstart is horseshit.

Go ahead and explain away and bring all the horseshit you need to. Hopefully town doesn't buy into it but at least I'm doing all I can.

For like the 3rd damn time, why would I fakeclaim such a shitty check?
I havent seen any answers from anyone.

You dont seem worried that being lynched means town lose the game.
You dont seem worried at all.


I have to agree with the point oats is making here.

If he was fake claiming cop, why wouldn't he say that he red checked me or rels?
It would be such an easy win for the mafia.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 21 2015 16:37 GMT
#2369
Something witty related to vote counts




Oatsmaster (3): ruxXar, Kickstart, WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow (1): Oatsmaster

Not Voting (2):
Rels
Trfel







Currently Oatsmaster is set to be lynched with 2 votes.

Remember to vote in the voting thread


Day ends in

ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2015 18:04 GMT
#2370
On June 22 2015 00:33 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 23:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 21 2015 23:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Unfortunately shouting 'I know im town therefore oats must be scum' isn't helpful to everyone else that doesn't know my alignment. I've already shown two ways that you're faking it. Your explanation of your scum reading kickstart is horseshit.

Go ahead and explain away and bring all the horseshit you need to. Hopefully town doesn't buy into it but at least I'm doing all I can.

For like the 3rd damn time, why would I fakeclaim such a shitty check?
I havent seen any answers from anyone.

You dont seem worried that being lynched means town lose the game.
You dont seem worried at all.


I have to agree with the point oats is making here.

If he was fake claiming cop, why wouldn't he say that he red checked me or rels?
It would be such an easy win for the mafia.

So, will you switch vote to wos?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 18:58 GMT
#2371
Not yet.
There's something I'm waiting for...
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 18:59 GMT
#2372
...The hero you need but don't deserve
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 21 2015 19:50 GMT
#2373
Yo, between two drinks, here is a message to Oats, as he probably will be sleeping when I wake up tomorrow:

Oats, I'm not believing your claim right now.
But ... it makes a little bit more sense than I thought. You didn't attack batsnacks during D2. You ignored Kickstart during D3.

So. Please show me a previous game of yours where you do something like that. If it exists, show me a game where you are a cop and you did one of the following:
- you didn't claim a redcheck, but tried to attack him with arguments
- you didn't breadcrumb
- you attacked a greencheck to throw off mafia members
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 22:05 GMT
#2374
So here's where I am at:

I really want to lynch oats, nothing would please me more, he's been nothing but a useless townie all game.

However, my brain is telling me that if there's a godfather in the game, there has to be a cop.
On top of that, it's a newbie game. Chances are the setup will be pretty default with a medic/cop.

Assuming this I see two scenarios:

Either oats is fake-claiming and we have a cop that has yet to claim.
Or, he's telling the truth and wave is mafia.

All of my beeing really wants to lynch oatsmaster, but I can't reasonably convince myself that there somehow is a godfa ther but not a cop.

If the real cop is out there, please claim so my world will make sense again.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 22:36 GMT
#2375
Rels, you said this earlier:

On June 21 2015 08:37 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 08:35 ruXxar wrote:
So do you still want to lynch me?

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 06:51 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2015 06:43 ruXxar wrote:
Here's my thought on the mafias play.

Either your or wave are going to die.
If neither of you die, then one of you has to be mafia.

Does that sound far fetched?

The thought is valid but wifom.

I loved the way you answered these questions BTW. A mafia has to fabricate reads, so changing them is difficult. You explaining how you changed your read on the sulfu / me situation make me think you're really town.



If you're not going to lynch me, who would be your next lynch after oats?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2015 22:44 GMT
#2376
On June 22 2015 04:50 Rels wrote:
Yo, between two drinks, here is a message to Oats, as he probably will be sleeping when I wake up tomorrow:

Oats, I'm not believing your claim right now.
But ... it makes a little bit more sense than I thought. You didn't attack batsnacks during D2. You ignored Kickstart during D3.

So. Please show me a previous game of yours where you do something like that. If it exists, show me a game where you are a cop and you did one of the following:
- you didn't claim a redcheck, but tried to attack him with arguments
- you didn't breadcrumb
- you attacked a greencheck to throw off mafia members

I have been cop like once, 2 years ago or something.
So no, I cant show you a game. Sorry.

But the point of not claiming is because we have a much much much easier time tomorrow if I managed to get wave lynched without claiming.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2015 22:44 GMT
#2377
On June 22 2015 07:05 ruXxar wrote:
So here's where I am at:

I really want to lynch oats, nothing would please me more, he's been nothing but a useless townie all game.

However, my brain is telling me that if there's a godfather in the game, there has to be a cop.
On top of that, it's a newbie game. Chances are the setup will be pretty default with a medic/cop.

Assuming this I see two scenarios:

Either oats is fake-claiming and we have a cop that has yet to claim.
Or, he's telling the truth and wave is mafia.

All of my beeing really wants to lynch oatsmaster, but I can't reasonably convince myself that there somehow is a godfa ther but not a cop.

If the real cop is out there, please claim so my world will make sense again.

Hey my day 1 was good ok.
No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 21 2015 23:16 GMT
#2378
On June 21 2015 15:34 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
I'm really tempted to buy TL+ just so I can search the thread much faster jesus.
How does TL+ help you search the thread faster? (not accusing, just wondering)


It lets you view a thread with 1000 posts per page.
It would make things way easier to search for in context.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 22 2015 00:05 GMT
#2379
On June 21 2015 12:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
To be fair, i wrote that post right after wave asked you a bunch of questions but before you went all "oats sucks, he has to be mafia or we blame him for the loss"

It's fine, but you aren't gonna lynch me at the end of the day. For sure.

Btw can we nolynch? We should no lynch if we can.


This is a strange request all of a sudden.

Why did you want a no-lynch?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 22 2015 00:13 GMT
#2380
I figured there would be a cop claim. I was paranoid before I went to sleep earlier that since there was no cop claim from anyone yet that mafia could use it for an easy win. In general I would instantly believe a quick claim that seemed to make sense but Oats really did poorly in waiting so long in the position he was in. Now I have to look at his claimed checks and how he played after them and see if it makes sense.

From what I can remember an Oats cop may make sense. He was pushing on bats so hard day 1 so a check there makes sense, and the fact that after that he doesn't push scum bats ahain from what I can remember. I personally don't think I check on me makes sense after the sulf lynch but I suppose in a position where I am tunneling you really fucking hard you may be inclined to do so. Wave or trfel check dunno.

Thing like this really requires actually reading through the thread and not just his filter; fml. I knew there would be a claim today and I knew it was going to be hard to believe because either side was going to be able to do it, maybe I should have fakeclaimed first D:
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