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Heroes of the storm is worth trying tbh | ||
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Overall, if WBG is seriously BMing("joining the lurkers) over his case being attacked and being scummed when he's been adamant and ad hominem/has been condescending is pretty inconsistent. Like you're calling players scum AND bad. Why can you dish the heat and not take it? I only have WBG as possible town because I don't think scum would continue rolling with that so hard and then continue pushing other things and conversation in the thread. And I've also had times I've BMd as town over activity levels and attacks but...I'm also not nearly as abrasive. I'm not 100% sure WBG is town but I think he's not the best lynch for today. I never know how to read LS. I'm not sure I even want to bother trying this game. Every time I do, I just get scummed in return, regardless of whether I deduce he's scum or town lol. But for right now, I could lynch him. First page of filter is a few one liners, some wishy washy stuff and emoticons. And some of those one liners were questions he never followed up on or took anywhere(the questioning Stutters AND Shockey, two "lurkers"). But they haven't even been on to reply so it's NAI. I'll give him a very slight town lean for now for being willing to post past games and stepping it up once the game moved on from the smurf debate. Don't lynch Yamato. That's pretty simple, right? I was worried that Terrorblade comment would be his only post but that big analysis post, although a bit hard on the eyes, looked pretty good. At worst, it's a good townie looking at WBG and LS objectively. At worst, it's scum misdirection in a HUGE post that can be revisited later, but I really don't think that's the case. I think BM could flip scum here. He opens with voting me, presumably as pressure to get me to post, but he leaves it up for about an hour, if that. Seems like a really odd way to pressure vote and without posting to that point, I'm not sure what else I would've been voted for. Then he puts up a semi-serious? vote on Bats. Buddying WBG. Clearly says not unvoting. Next post? Unvotes. Votes WBG. Yes, he explains WHY he's voting and going after WBG but prior to that, there were 2 rather unexplained votes, including a clear indication that he wouldn't move. What changed? BM, explain? What are you reading bats as now? FreezingFoot. Funny thing is, I found myself having the same thought regarding WBG's entrance. Trying hard to look town, asking who is "good", etc. I feel like it is a genuine reaction if I reacted the same way. But I've already explained that later things WBG did make it harder for me to believe he's scum. But I also like Freezing's later questioning of Shockey. 2nd time he posted something I was thinking while reading. And I subscribe to the "two D1 contributors going at each other hard are usually town" theory so I won't lynch FF or WBG today. Freezing town. Onegu very slight scum lean for not claiming VT and then pointing it out himself. It's like he realized he broke his meta because he isn't town but he turned it into a joke to trivialize it. Note that in acknowledging he didn't claim VT, he proceeded to not claim VT. So he's not VT. Easiest read ever. The list post was a bit underwhelming, too, but since I took that word from his own filter, I can't judge it very much. Can't chalk him up to much more than a null right now. Shockeyy. I can't say anything about him until he answers FreezingFoot's questions. But even those 2 posts were inconsistent. Policy lynch with a gut scum feeling. Stutters doesn't do D1. But even as for as not doing D1, the level of activity for him is bad. He likes FF. Is going to try and post more. I could lynch if he doesn't at least try to get SOMETHING out before EoD. Tubesock is town side of null. The entrance is ok but I'm parroting WBG's spreadsheet here. It could be nothing or it could be something but I also picked up on him knowing FF was a girl. But I don't remember seeing FF confirm that. But I have FF in my town pile so meh. Bats I like for town. The few times I've played with him, he's been a bit sporadic but his questioning have clear trains of thought and I liked the picking up on Tube/FF female thing. It shows he's actively reading and has an interest in solving the game. Breshke is slight town pile for now. He was willing to reassess his read and vote on FF but he did it in a well thought out and explained post, not just a "oh I got caught trying to jump on a wagon, let me backtrack" kind of manner. He's also actively questioning. Not a good lynch today. Kickstart is town town town. General rule of thumb. Don't lynch the larger filters on D1, since you can come back to them instead of destroying all activity in the game and letting lurking scum win. Kickstart's early posts felt a bit odd but it seems he was just playing into the flavor and getting discussion going. Since then, he's been looking at everything in thread, from WBG - FF to Breshke's vote to commenting on everyone who has posted. | ||
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And no, I'm not implying you don't random vote as town. I'm implying that you yourself said your Bats vote was a rather serious one, which implies it isn't random. Are you implying that it was in fact random when you called it serious? You're more concerned with being one of my scumreads than the content of any of my other reads. K. I'm not lynching LS or WBG today. Onegu isn't defending himself or doing particularly much. And I'm with Freezing, I don't understand what exactly Shockey was trying to say in his post and him not being around to explain it is no good. For now. Subject to change. ##Vote: Shockeyy | ||
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I could maybe be swayed but in this setup, why the hell are we going to let ANY lurkers get away with anything? | ||
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On June 10 2015 04:20 yamato77 wrote: Bill is definitely managing to erase any sort of townread I may have once had. The Shining is also managing to look worse and worse with every post but he's probably just an idiot. lol you were unpleasant as fck last time we played together, made me tunnel you. We were both town. I see you're still at it. If you're gonna say I'm worse and worse with every post, say HOW instead of just making me look bad for no other reason than to call me an idiot. It really helps town tremendously to do so. No one's consolidating votes but you ping on me for taking a stance. Good shyt. Town has it's head up its ass, I don't even expect a lynch to happen here at this rate. Shockey, Stutters, BM. That's my lynchpool. And with Shockeyys latest post, I'm rethinking my vote on him. I don't really do D1. And I don't play very actively at all Mondays and Tuesdays. This is all over my past games, I don't lie about it. I took a crack at actually trying to play D1. Seems to be going really well. | ||
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On June 10 2015 05:01 FreezingFoot wrote: Why do you make a case on Bill Murray but proposes a lynch on two different people? Two different people that aren't Bill Murray... | ||
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On June 09 2015 22:43 batsnacks wrote: I think someone said stutters never does anything d1 I seem to remember that being true the 1 game I've played with him. Anyway everyone but shockey has made at least 1 memorable post. Shockey's roll is too slow. I said that. Stutters "doesn't do D1." However, this is the first time in your entire filter that you mention him. So you agree that it's a part of his meta and not alignment indicative. Then you move onto Stutters because of something BM said about Shockey being the best he's ever looked to him? But you just said you think BM could be scum for a point you brought up before. If you think BM is scum, it doesn't make sense that you'd lay off of Shockey because BM said so. | ||
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I'm not completely sold on a Shockeyy lynch since he's actually posted on some of the posters and sort of defended himself, but I'm trying to figure out your train of thought. | ||
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On June 10 2015 05:10 batsnacks wrote: Also what are you doing parrot man I see you there. I found it best to clarify, since someone could read that and assume you were proposing a lynch on two diff ppl INCLUDING BM, not AS WELL AS BM. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: LightningStrike There's no anger or urgency in his defense. I can't really justify where he's town, except that I've been wrong on him before. | ||
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##Unvote Vote: Bill Murray | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: LightningStrike | ||
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D1 scum flips make me happy. | ||
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Hai guys. I had BM as suspected scum before and his EoD did nothing to soothe my jimmies. When I get more time, I'll revisit LS filter to see if there were any slips at all. Just would like to say this, though. It's great that town wants to consolidate and start actively hunting scum. This doesn't mean we all put a vote on BM at the beginning of the phase and then wait. Anybody here and wanna talk? | ||
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On June 11 2015 13:04 wherebugsgo wrote: I actually think the shining could be the missing link we are looking for Something bothers me about the way that dude posts and it probably means he is scum. On June 11 2015 14:34 Tubesock wrote: ShoCkeyy I like a lot more than The Shining. I will be fine killing The Shining until he try hards like I have seen him before. He can make good cases and contribute. I give him a D1 pass since I believe he doesn't find D1's useful without deaths. Even now though I think he is underperforming what I expect of him as town. Lmao you two would rather kill me than each other. So who gets blamed for the mislynch? And who looks worse since you'd both be voting with your scumreads?  | ||
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I didn't vote Kickstart for PR. Yeah Shockeyy looks tons of awesome for saying Onegu is hiding this game and he's worried about him and votes him during a majority lynch by himself while not pushing it or giving any sort of proof as to why Onegu is scum. Tube speaks in too many absolutes. BM is totes town. Bugs is scum, period. It's oddly unsettling. Couple it with being OK killing me and I'm prone to omgus. I'm not trying hard. I know I'm not trying hard. But I still know my alignment. And I've got one or two key towntells for me ppl who have played with me before should see. Even if not, w.e, I'm here. My LS read. My very first comment on him is idk how to read him. I lynch him as town thinking he's scum. I leave him as scum and he ends up flipping through lynch or vig snot. I've correctly read him maybe once. So yeah, I was always going to be wishy washy on that. And I didn't want to lynch him because he was interacting and Tube made a good point about scumLS falling off. However, as we got closer to eod, it became blatantly obvious LS was giving us nothing and I wanted to avoid the no lynch. And if I'm scum and starting late, I don't think I enter the game late with a post saying idk how to read my scummate but I could lynch him. That's fucking stupid. But I've rolled scum all of 1 times so you never know, right? OK Bugs you need to check my past games. Youve had time. What did you find? It's been almost two hours. Bill is omgus but idc cuz he's still scum to me. Forced reaction? Yeah yours was longer and right at the flip, MUST have been authentic. Bugs, I said he was policy WITH A GUT SCUM FEELING. I didn't say I was AGAINST a policy lynch. I even made a post asking why we would let any lurkers(see:Shockeyy) get away with anything in a setup like this. So obviously I voted to make him DO SOMETHING. He posted and oh look, I started rethinking my vote on him. To then show up 2 hours later to bus my scummate as the 6th vote right? I switched because GlowingFoot was yelling to switch to BM and he was my scumread. I realized no one was moving so I went back. How is this weird? | ||
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On June 11 2015 14:31 Tubesock wrote: I'm undecided on you, ShoCkeyy and The Shining. I don't think Batsnacks reads at all which makes me think of JoaT when I was certain he was mafia but turned out he was didn't care at all town. Onegu I think puts in more effort as scum. You should never town me for my activity level, tunnelness, or belief. I believed every case I brought in my mafia game except the one on Breshke. And I am certain that if I was on a mafia team with Rsoultin (my scummate) and LightningStrike in this game we would bus the shit out of him. And we would do it just like Bugs is doing. Rsoultin would be the busser and I would be midlevel but vote LS. Guaranteed. And this. You're so convinced and dead set on WBG but...every one of your other reads here is...meh. Undecided on 3 players. You don't give a read on bats, just some meta info. Same with Onegu. Please make crystal clear easily understandable reads, I'm bad at this game, treat me like it. | ||
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On June 11 2015 13:36 wherebugsgo wrote: Why the fuck would a day 1 bus be that much greater than a day 2 bus AND a kp 99% of townies aren't going to be smart enough to go back to reread day 1 play if a mafia decides to no lynch on the premise of not having enough info day 1, then goes ahead and changes his mind day 2 to bus his useless teammate. It literally makes no difference which day the bus occurs if mafia is looking for towncred. However in this setup there is a clear choice that makes sense and that's day 2 because you automatically forfeit a fucking KP. If you're actually town and cannot understand how unfathomably bad that kind of decision would be and why it's a complete non possibility you deserve to die for having such consistently terrible opinions This. Tone aside, this is a good post. Like even with an unmotivated scummer like LS, if scum was voting him, they could've tried to get off the lynch to save that bullet. It looks so damn obviously bad that Tube really tried over and over to save LS on the premise of if he's scum, he will get worse and we will catch him. It's like he was setting himself up to bus LS after the bullet was used, then be able to say "see? I told you. Easy to catch after d1" and no one would question it. | ||
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So which was it? | ||
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Why did you delete that part off the quote? It makes it blatantly obvious that although I do not think I'm playing up to standard, I'm playing well enough and have done enough to feel my townread isn't terribly hard to those familiar with my meta. And you're one of those. And as I'm typing that, my tinfoil went off. Yamato, why do you think I'm town? Do you still think I'm town? I remember you saying my arguments were bad so there's gotta be another reason for you TR me. | ||
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Tube, I'm sorry but I've also done my best not to attack you, personally. It's just a thing of mine. If I start feeling unmotivated, I latch onto the fire that comes from someone scumming/wanting to kill me. Even a statement like that is enough to fire me up. I also got weary that you making that town light comment(clever btw with my name and all) was an attempt at buddying me once you saw I was starting to come back to thread. And I can't help but feel like now you're backtracking. But if you are in fact town, be glad I'm firing it back up. Ive got filters to dive including yours and its 320 am here. I'll probably actively post here for a while longer to kill time at work but I'll dive tomorrow. | ||
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Wait a sec. GB IS a she, right? So Tube did in fact know that Foot was a girl before any of us. Or is GB not a girl and I'm making an ass of myself? | ||
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On June 11 2015 23:21 wherebugsgo wrote: I disagree with you there on Shining. His posts haven't moved from where they started. You should read his scum game. Also I want to poke around a bit since BM is like near 100% to die anyway OK so I didn't move from the 70% town you had in your spreadsheet? And lol...my one scum game. So definitive. You make so much sense. | ||
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On June 12 2015 00:50 ShoCkeyy wrote: I don't even know what the fuck the Onegu rule is. The reason is to try and get something out of him, he's turning into the player with the least amount of posts while not posting anything that has value to it. And The Shining posting about Foot with out even reading the thread when Foot accidentally posted under his main and just started to reply to the most recent postings. Bats, vote all you want for me, but if you're saying you may know who priest is, then why the fuck did you switch vote to me? All in all Shining is looking more scummy to me, bats vote against me looks scummy as fuck and Onegu's play here isn't scummy yet, but it could be a different route than what he played his last game with me as scum. Wtf is this eve Posting about Foot without reading thread? You're not reading. I clearly said "now that we know its GB" in the same post with foot. And asked GBs gender. Dumb dumb dumb. | ||
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On June 12 2015 02:12 FreezingFoot wrote: I was reading the thread and saw this. This is so fucking odd. A whole discussion is going on between bugs and tube sock and the shining focuses on the faint suspicions both players had on him. He is too self aware to the point of calling this out to say he is town ("who gets blamed for the mislynch?"). It's something a town doesn't usually give a shit or aren't aware until it happens I was trying to point out that both players decided to move on and conveniently landed on me. And I found it suspicious that Tube could scum WBG so damn hard but then have the scumread on me as WBG. | ||
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On June 12 2015 05:55 wherebugsgo wrote: shining can you answer my question please why did you say this when have you played with/seen shockeyy play Recent mini. Generic boring, I think? Actually shyt I just remembered he was scum that game, we failed to lynch him. That's a mistake on my part, oh well. | ||
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On June 13 2015 09:41 wherebugsgo wrote: if you are town (along with Tube and Shining) you should probably reread the newbie guide Yeah see shit like this is why I didn't bother trying this game. Tell me to read a newbie guide? Read a fucking guide on how to not be a prick. The early smurf shyt and your attitude almost ruined this game for me. And telling the guy who pushed BM D1 then switched to LS and then still scummed BM D1 to read a newbie guide is fucking retarded. I don't give a shyt about this game or the lynch. Do whatever you guys want D3. | ||
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This is why people think you're a prick. | ||
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I voted Yamato Bats, you fucking geniuses, or they wouldn't have gotten PRs. Fucking duh. | ||
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On June 13 2015 10:32 The Shining wrote:I voted Yamato Bats, you fucking geniuses, or they wouldn't have gotten PRs. Fucking duh. On June 13 2015 10:32 The Shining wrote:I voted Yamato Bats, you fucking geniuses, or they wouldn't have gotten PRs. Fucking duh. On June 13 2015 10:32 The Shining wrote:I voted Yamato Bats, you fucking geniuses, or they wouldn't have gotten PRs. Fucking duh. On June 13 2015 10:32 The Shining wrote:I voted Yamato Bats, you fucking geniuses, or they wouldn't have gotten PRs. Fucking duh. On June 13 2015 10:32 The Shining wrote:I voted Yamato Bats, you fucking geniuses, or they wouldn't have gotten PRs. Fucking duh. | ||
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And no lol. I really hope Tube was being serious and I really hope Tube is town. It would be funny as fuck to see this town lose over a double modkill mislynch combo. | ||
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On June 13 2015 10:36 wherebugsgo wrote: oh, my mistake. that should've been "you've accomplished so far", this is not a team game at all Yeah it is a team game. So why do you feel the need to trash everyone on your team? Prick. Calling people bad implies we didn't help win which in turn implies it was all you. Do you really need your ego to be stroked that badly? | ||
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Yes bats he helped catch scum and played well this game. That all goes out the window when I have to question and second guess everything he's posting because of the toxic tone to it. Like being a dick makes you no easier to townread. It makes it harder. And I didn't do absolutely fuck all. I gave reads. I posted when here. I cooperated with town. I lynched scum. How the fuck did I do fuck all? And yeah. I didn't vote BM for PR. So that argument doesn't mean anything to me. Oh and who wanted to lynch me?? BM and he was scum. Tube and Foot but they're "bad" too right? Ha. | ||
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On June 13 2015 10:50 Blazinghand wrote: Guys, let's keep it friendly. I see some unpleasantness happening here and I will not abide any more of it. From this point forward, if you post something that would get you banned elsewhere on TL, expect to be modkilled without warning. There will be no further warnings about behavior. This is being PMed to all living players. Awkward. I saw this after my last post, as it was started before you sent this. It's against the rules to edit/delete So i guess if you have to kill me, nothing I can do about it. My apologies for being difficult and unpleasant. And idk, I'm having a bad week and quit cigarettes a few days ago and really don't think I did as bad as you made it out to be and I don't like insults. So I'm sorry to the thread and bugs as well. | ||
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Yamato questioned why you would switch to me D2. He honestly could've been easily convinced if you pursued it, too. And I've already commented on the others that wanted to lynch me. Let's just win and move on... | ||
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Quotes: + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2015 21:59 LightningStrike wrote: That because you cashed it in at XXX when you were scum what you expect -_- This one looks like a slight tell. The emoticon could be interpreted as exasperation for a scummate tempting fate here by bringing this up. I know once he did, I became suspicious of him. + Show Spoiler + On June 09 2015 05:53 LightningStrike wrote: Okay bugs is totes town he got very similar formatting and stuff to his latest town games to his scum games and his line of questioning to FreezingFoot is also similar how did his line of questioning in his town games. Also Bugs I do tend to do that hey I will be back later stuff a lot regardless of my alignment  Also I truly was bored on the smurf debate mainly because it isn't exactly important to know who the smurf is although would be helpful for meta purposes :o Now that the game isn't focused on the great smurf debate I also got a meta read on bats being town he always a interesting person I just hope he doesn't lynch himself again :O Onegu haven't done much so null on him meta wise.This is the same scumLS that voted Shockeyy for inactivity. But he nulls Onegu for not doing much. + Show Spoiler + On June 09 2015 08:47 LightningStrike wrote: So you going to wait to get a read on Stutters( I can read him like book when he posts), scum on me, town on Bugs, Town on BM, Noob on Tubesock(Where his Tinfoils man) and nothing really on Onegu. Do you think Onegu could be scum? I comfortable enough with you to not lynch you today. ##Unvote Fishing to see if Yamato is onto his partner. + Show Spoiler + On June 09 2015 22:19 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I back and will answer Breshke's question regarding WBG's meta: From my research he tends to be much more aggressive and more thoughtful as town than scum which demonstrated pretty damn well this game when he pressured FreezingFoot and made a case on me although he is wrong on my alignment since I know Town. As scum he tends to more lurky and not as thoughtful from what I can tell from the couple of games I had checked out from the database regarding his meta. Also @Onegu I didn't scumread you for not claiming VT I just only said you cashed in on claiming VT Day 1 as scum before(XXX) and everyone is VT by default since the Miller is not selfaware also there wasn't much stuff in the thread to work with? I got the following as Town: WBG: Meta which I just explained. FreezingFoot: His reaction to WBG seemed pretty townie and looked townie outside of it. bats: Seems much more in line of his town meta compared to scum meta from my experience with him where the only time I played vs his scum he was I think a little bit more serious that game. Breshke: He seemed much more focused this game and willing to ask questions more than his normal scum game which I manged to catch him before BM: Although I think he's wrong on his meta read on WBG he did push it and he actually believes and looked townie for pushing someone who I think is Top Town. The rest are Null just wish a couple of the people would start posting more  So in this post, he responds to Onegu by telling him he isn't scumming him for not claiming VT. It looks like forced teammate talk because even after he responds, he gives a bunch of reads. But nothing on Onegu. Bills was a bit more interesting but I'm leaving work, ill be back in two hrs. | ||
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