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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 13 2015 07:13 GMT
#1421
On June 13 2015 16:12 Kickstart wrote:
He didn't have me fooled! ^^
GG town.


gj I was rereading why you might've died and I kept wondering about FF hahaha

Kept convincing myself I was wrong for various reason or another
FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
June 13 2015 07:28 GMT
#1422
On June 13 2015 16:11 Breshke wrote:
GG GB, I think you had basically everyone fooled and under different circumstances it would have been very difficult to catch you.


Thanks dude GG
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 13 2015 07:28 GMT
#1423

[image loading]


End Game





The Priest trembles. His legs give way under him, and he falls to the wet, damp, leaf-covered earth. Blood mixes with the dew on the leaves, and as he tries to rise, he realizes this will be his resting place. He had failed. He had called for help, and the help had died, and alone, he could not stand against The Coven. In the battle for these villagers' lives-- nay, their very souls-- he had flinched, he had stuttered, he had lost. They would die godless without his ministrations, their sin would go uncleansed. His death would damn them.

The Abominations approach him, drooling, barking, and snapping in their demonic frenzy.Their red eyes glow with an emotion beyond human comprehension, each an embodiment of the sin and heathenism he fought against his whole life. He closes his eyes as he expects them to rip him apart. Instead, they begin to circle him.

Each foul creature begins to bray and bark, filling the air with the sound of hell, like shatter glass, like tearing metal, like roaring furnaces, like sulfur and salt and the taste of blood and the feeling of something harsh and grating. The braying goes on and on, the noises blending together until it seems, for a moment, that The Priest understands it until he feels like he can hear The Words of the Devil in the formless sound.

The Abominations melt together, a ring of muscle and bone around him, and at last he comprehends them. They are Lucifer made flesh, and the voice comes, and it is more terrible and beautiful than he could have ever imagined. It does not threaten or laugh or demean. It has only one word for him, then another, then another, until a sentence forms of the chaos.

"Submit to me, priest."

Suddenly, The Priest's eyes are filled with visions of life, the life he might have. He sees himself submit to Lucifer and damning himself. He rejoins the town, and as a man of learning and letters, starts a school. He teaches children to read and write, and in times his school becomes a library, then a University. As an older man, he brings learning and light into more lives than anyone else. The town-- no, it is a city now-- is prosperous and everyone lives happily. His University even has a school of theology, and many great clergymen and preachers graduate from the seminary. He dies as an old man, surrounded by friends and family, and his honor is remembered forever.

He blinks the vision away. The temptation. The trickery of The Devil. "I will not fall for such trickery! You would never do good, Deceiver! Priests were born to oppose the Devil, not bow to his will! Your plans for evil will never--"

There is a moment, as he speaks, where he might have even fully believed what he said. But, when Lucifer interrupts him, he listens.

"I am not offering you power, or wealth, or damnation. I only offer you what your 'Lord' never would-- I offer you a choice. You can die here, or you can join me, and create a more beautiful world, a world of free will, without predestination. A world where a man's character determines who he is, not the blind meddling of an all-powerful God. I cannot give you success-- you will find that for yourself, one way or another. You are an educated man, and a good man, but I will not repeat myself again. Submit, and be free, or resist, and be destroyed."

The Priest is silent for a moment. He had always had them, the doubts. He joined the clergy for many reasons, but one of them was to be an educated man, and to teach others. Somehow... somehow now things seemed to be different. The Devil wasn't offering him power or sin, just choice. And didn't The Lord allow Man free will? Wait... was he already being influenced? Would he normally have doubts like this, thoughts like this? Was his soul already being corrupted by the darkness?

How can you find if your reasoning is being warped, using only your reasoning?

The Priest tried to squirm away from the writhing flesh, but couldn't move. There was really no escape. The silence in the air was expectant, and he knew that what he did here would decide his fate.

"I.... I will.... I will never submit to you, Lucifer! The... The Lord protect me! Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil. You are with me, Your rod and Your sta--"

The words caught in his throat as he was run through by a dozen bone swords extruded from the Abominations.

The Devil sighed. "A pity. You would have been a most excellent apostate."




Mafia concession

The Priest has been killed!
The Coven is victorious!
Lucifer claims another village!




Obs: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/BrUikFEjRUpPP
Scum: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/mXvMdSfmJ8kT

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
June 13 2015 07:29 GMT
#1424
On June 13 2015 16:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 16:12 Kickstart wrote:
He didn't have me fooled! ^^
GG town.


gj I was rereading why you might've died and I kept wondering about FF hahaha

Kept convincing myself I was wrong for various reason or another


He died because we didn't send night actions properly

Breshke or yamato were going to die and the silver bullet would be held

BM wanted batsnacks dead but I said no lol
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 13 2015 07:37 GMT
#1425
yeah a yamato kill would've made the game a bit different.

I really doubt BM would've lived day 2 no matter what happened, though. You were the only shot at mafia winning.

Also I really do mean everything I said about smurfs day 1. Look at how much meta played into getting LS killed and BM suspected. Both yamato and I agreed that it wasn't like BM to play like this as town. Meta is so useful when used properly.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 13 2015 07:44 GMT
#1426
holy shit FF were you voted for witchcraft day 1
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 13 2015 07:45 GMT
#1427
Also I didn't get powers this game, lots of people thought I might have. Also lol @ scumqt Bill wants bans on me. lawl.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 13 2015 07:45 GMT
#1428
ROFL can't believe that actually happened

wtf were town doing
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 13 2015 07:46 GMT
#1429
Yeh I had voted FF as my #1 lol, I tried to vote people that werent too obvious so they wouldnt get silver bulleted but I should have changed that vote close to EoD when I was pretty sure he was scum, o well.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 13 2015 07:48 GMT
#1430
I agree with your point in principle but disagree with it in practice, because rarely will a town smurf just freely out and most of the time you just waste a lot of the time in the day you could be using to pressure players for things they've actually done since role PMs were handed out. Even when the smurf in question is mafia, it's impossible to get people to policy lynch a smurf and convincing people that ONLY a mafia smurf wouldn't out is just loltastic. All it does is make you look worse for focusing on such an irrelevant point and give the player in question reason to be a dick and OMGUS you.
Writer@WriterYamato
FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
June 13 2015 07:49 GMT
#1431
"as scum this game lightningstrike and i were very coordinated but glowingbear was not wanting to work with us at all and wouldnt agree to not make cases on us D1

hope im never scum with him again."

Dude, BM, it seems your coordination was great since you guys were able to survive all game long, right?
The only reason this game lasted only two days is because you are a total douche.

I've made no case day1. Your plan was to lurk? To push the scummiest agenda possible? You ducking wanted me to vote bugs after his activity day1?

It's incredible how bad you can be as either alignment. I can understand LS having no motivation to play, but you are in another level of badness and dickiness
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 07:51:27
June 13 2015 07:49 GMT
#1432
it blows my mind that after all he said d1 that people thought he was in their top 3 town reads

I was starting to think he was more town over time because of the sheer number of people yelling at me but on d1 I would never have considered voting him

On June 13 2015 16:48 yamato77 wrote:
I agree with your point in principle but disagree with it in practice, because rarely will a town smurf just freely out and most of the time you just waste a lot of the time in the day you could be using to pressure players for things they've actually done since role PMs were handed out. Even when the smurf in question is mafia, it's impossible to get people to policy lynch a smurf and convincing people that ONLY a mafia smurf wouldn't out is just loltastic. All it does is make you look worse for focusing on such an irrelevant point and give the player in question reason to be a dick and OMGUS you.


nah

it was very clear based on the pressure that he was either hiding being a smurf for a bad reason or he was scum.

Like for almost 12 hours we got almost nothing out of him, and it forced him to be more active, but he never provided real reads

I only backed off because of the sheer backlash I got, otherwise I would've kept tunneling him till he died. I got almost no backup at all on that push so I switched to LS

also if I knew his meta I probably would've nailed him 100%. I didn't have the time to look into his past games when he slipped GB but at that point I assumed I was wrong already
FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
June 13 2015 07:50 GMT
#1433
On June 13 2015 16:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
holy shit FF were you voted for witchcraft day 1


Yes I was. And I was about to claim I roleblocked Bill if it wasn't for yamato's track
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 13 2015 07:52 GMT
#1434
also I think if scum had coordinated d1 they could've potentially gotten me lynched

I had really unpopular opinions for most of the day but LS failed kinda hard
FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
June 13 2015 07:52 GMT
#1435
On June 13 2015 16:46 Kickstart wrote:
Yeh I had voted FF as my #1 lol, I tried to vote people that werent too obvious so they wouldnt get silver bulleted but I should have changed that vote close to EoD when I was pretty sure he was scum, o well.


Sorry, "pretty sure" is not what you actually were

The idea that "no mafia would be this bold to defend a scum partner" was very present in thread
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 13 2015 07:54 GMT
#1436
On June 13 2015 16:52 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 16:46 Kickstart wrote:
Yeh I had voted FF as my #1 lol, I tried to vote people that werent too obvious so they wouldnt get silver bulleted but I should have changed that vote close to EoD when I was pretty sure he was scum, o well.


Sorry, "pretty sure" is not what you actually were

The idea that "no mafia would be this bold to defend a scum partner" was very present in thread


I didn't agree with that, not in this setup.

giving up a KP day 1? fuck that shit
FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
June 13 2015 07:54 GMT
#1437
On June 13 2015 16:48 yamato77 wrote:
I agree with your point in principle but disagree with it in practice, because rarely will a town smurf just freely out and most of the time you just waste a lot of the time in the day you could be using to pressure players for things they've actually done since role PMs were handed out. Even when the smurf in question is mafia, it's impossible to get people to policy lynch a smurf and convincing people that ONLY a mafia smurf wouldn't out is just loltastic. All it does is make you look worse for focusing on such an irrelevant point and give the player in question reason to be a dick and OMGUS you.


^ this

You actually made things very easy to me in early day 1 with this, bugs.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 07:58:25
June 13 2015 07:57 GMT
#1438
On June 13 2015 16:54 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 16:48 yamato77 wrote:
I agree with your point in principle but disagree with it in practice, because rarely will a town smurf just freely out and most of the time you just waste a lot of the time in the day you could be using to pressure players for things they've actually done since role PMs were handed out. Even when the smurf in question is mafia, it's impossible to get people to policy lynch a smurf and convincing people that ONLY a mafia smurf wouldn't out is just loltastic. All it does is make you look worse for focusing on such an irrelevant point and give the player in question reason to be a dick and OMGUS you.


^ this

You actually made things very easy to me in early day 1 with this, bugs.


why?

I really don't understand why this is such a controversial opinion. I think I did my best to show why it was in town's best interest to either get something out of you, whether it be an identity or reads. We got absolutely nothing and yet people still considered you town

I only backed off because people disagreed with me. Generally when so many people disagree with me I start convincing myself that I am wrong. I did not like what you posted but I gave it a rest because it was destroying the thread. That's why I started calling you bad, because if so many people disagreed with me I thought you must be an idiot townie who I should start ignoring for having bad opinions.

It's good that I picked up on LS otherwise I would've started tunneling some poor townie like stutters

also it was definitely NOT a policy lynch. It was pressure based on being a smurf and I didn't like the direction you took after the pressure
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 13 2015 07:58 GMT
#1439
Yeah I was not buying that they bussed their silver bullet, makes zero sense. How you read my EoD and Night Phase postings and dont see that I found you suspicious is beyond me.
FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
June 13 2015 07:58 GMT
#1440
On June 13 2015 16:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
it blows my mind that after all he said d1 that people thought he was in their top 3 town reads

I was starting to think he was more town over time because of the sheer number of people yelling at me but on d1 I would never have considered voting him

Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 16:48 yamato77 wrote:
I agree with your point in principle but disagree with it in practice, because rarely will a town smurf just freely out and most of the time you just waste a lot of the time in the day you could be using to pressure players for things they've actually done since role PMs were handed out. Even when the smurf in question is mafia, it's impossible to get people to policy lynch a smurf and convincing people that ONLY a mafia smurf wouldn't out is just loltastic. All it does is make you look worse for focusing on such an irrelevant point and give the player in question reason to be a dick and OMGUS you.


nah

it was very clear based on the pressure that he was either hiding being a smurf for a bad reason or he was scum.

Like for almost 12 hours we got almost nothing out of him, and it forced him to be more active, but he never provided real reads

I only backed off because of the sheer backlash I got, otherwise I would've kept tunneling him till he died. I got almost no backup at all on that push so I switched to LS

also if I knew his meta I probably would've nailed him 100%. I didn't have the time to look into his past games when he slipped GB but at that point I assumed I was wrong already


Would never reveal who I was if I were town. I chose to smurf so people wouldn't have this idea that "he is glowingbear, he is wrong". But then I rolled scum, and being bad would be helpful if I got my identity revealed at some point.

In other words, in the beginning of the game, you were right for the wrong reasons
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