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FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
June 07 2015 23:21 GMT
#121
On June 08 2015 08:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway I am kinda sad I didn't roll scum this game but you guys should elevate me to Greater Demon status cause that'll be baller

also if you guys could fill me in on who I should expect to suck this game and when I should be disappointed for someone sucking that would be great


Btw I don't like this opening. Sounds like a guy trying too hard do say "oh I'm town /sob", and asking people for names to work with.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 07 2015 23:22 GMT
#122
On June 08 2015 08:18 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:15 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:10 batsnacks wrote:
##vote FreezingFoot


Not like this, tho


who are you


Blazinghand's archenemy



##vote FreezingFoot

I say we kill this foot unless he convinces us of his identity and why we should keep him alive. I for one do not want to be led by two left feet

quotes about feet:

The human foot is a masterpiece of engineering and a work of art.
-Leonardo da Vinci (load of shit)

The foot feels the foot when it feels the ground.
-Buddha (wat)

When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands.
=George Carlin (I would rather my life not be in the hands of this foot....or should it be...wait feet don't have hands)

Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 07 2015 23:22 GMT
#123
On June 08 2015 08:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Welcome to Day 1! This Day ends in ~48 hours at Sunday, Jun 07 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


wat


thanks, fixed
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 07 2015 23:23 GMT
#124
On June 08 2015 08:21 Kickstart wrote:
Satan told me that wherebugsgo is not an Acolyte as he himself didn't know what an Acolyte was. He also said that a true member of the order would know who is strongest and that the question is an attempt to infiltrate the coven and discover who our most powerful and wise Acolytes are in order to target them first. You can not fool the dark lord so easily wherebugsgo.


the dark lord can suck my d&*$
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 07 2015 23:24 GMT
#125
On June 08 2015 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:21 Kickstart wrote:
Satan told me that wherebugsgo is not an Acolyte as he himself didn't know what an Acolyte was. He also said that a true member of the order would know who is strongest and that the question is an attempt to infiltrate the coven and discover who our most powerful and wise Acolytes are in order to target them first. You can not fool the dark lord so easily wherebugsgo.


the dark lord can suck my d&*$

Blasphemer
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2015 23:26 GMT
#126
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 07 2015 23:28 GMT
#127
We can not allow such blatant blaspheme against our Lord to go unpunished, to not act is an affront to him.

Does not know what it means to be an Acolyte of the coven,
Tries to learn our tightly held secrets such as our most powerful and wisest members,
Openly mocks our Lord.

##Unvote
##Vote wherebugsgo
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 07 2015 23:28 GMT
#128
On June 08 2015 08:24 Kickstart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:21 Kickstart wrote:
Satan told me that wherebugsgo is not an Acolyte as he himself didn't know what an Acolyte was. He also said that a true member of the order would know who is strongest and that the question is an attempt to infiltrate the coven and discover who our most powerful and wise Acolytes are in order to target them first. You can not fool the dark lord so easily wherebugsgo.


the dark lord can suck my d&*$

Blasphemer


[image loading]

seems like your dark lord would do to me exactly as described, since I am a blasphemer

Bet he'd enjoy it too, that devil!
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 07 2015 23:28 GMT
#129
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 07 2015 23:30 GMT
#130
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 07 2015 23:31 GMT
#131
Hi

On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.


So do you think someone that has chosen to smurf is more likely to reveal who they are as town or mafia then?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2015 23:32 GMT
#132
On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.

The you suggesting it every smurf who doesn't out their aka is scum which is flawed logic....
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 07 2015 23:35 GMT
#133
On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.

But surely if you were an acolyte you would see the wisdom in ones words and not need to know the person's identity to discern its wisdom or lack thereof. Is this attempt to discern this persons true identity something useful for a member of the coven? Do you ask so that you can discredit if he does not oblige? Do you ask to know if he is a powerful and wise acolyte? Both courses of action would be beneficial to the inquisitors, while knowing his true identity or not does not matter to members of the coven. Ones words and actions matter most to the coven, not ones identity.

Only an inquisitor would be so interested in ones identity over ones wisdom.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2015 23:35 GMT
#134
So Breshke any thoughts on Wherebugsgo right now?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 07 2015 23:36 GMT
#135
On June 08 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:
Hi

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.


So do you think someone that has chosen to smurf is more likely to reveal who they are as town or mafia then?


I think they would be more likely to reveal themselves as town.

Granted, a smurf does not have to reveal themselves to be useful to town. I have smurfed myself, and the reason I do it is often quite simple-most people don't ask, and those who do can be placated by providing opinions and good reads. I have never had the luxury of rolling scum while smurfing, but if I ever did I do not doubt it would be one of the easiest ways to achieve victory.

It is plainly obvious why smurfing is far more advantageous to the individual player than the team as a whole. The town only benefits if the player who is smurfing is a high caliber town player, rolls town, and escapes getting shot night 1 due to being a smurf. Otherwise, town stands to gain nothing from a mediocre townie or a bad townie smurfing other than a lack of insight into the player's behaviour.

You should always hold smurfs to a higher standard because if they refuse to reveal their identity then you have no background to be working with. You have no expectation of their play, and an ordinarily good townie has rolled scum on a smurf you have no way of knowing.
FreezingFoot
Profile Joined May 2015
457 Posts
June 07 2015 23:36 GMT
#136
On June 08 2015 08:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:18 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:15 FreezingFoot wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:10 batsnacks wrote:
##vote FreezingFoot


Not like this, tho


who are you


Blazinghand's archenemy



##vote FreezingFoot

I say we kill this foot unless he convinces us of his identity and why we should keep him alive. I for one do not want to be led by two left feet

quotes about feet:

The human foot is a masterpiece of engineering and a work of art.
-Leonardo da Vinci (load of shit)

The foot feels the foot when it feels the ground.
-Buddha (wat)

When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands.
=George Carlin (I would rather my life not be in the hands of this foot....or should it be...wait feet don't have hands)



Why do you hard align with hands?

Here is a quote about hands

[image loading]
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 07 2015 23:38 GMT
#137
Now the question is, does this man withhold his identity to sow wisdom and clarity or to sow confusion. Time will tell.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 07 2015 23:39 GMT
#138
On June 08 2015 08:35 Kickstart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.

But surely if you were an acolyte you would see the wisdom in ones words and not need to know the person's identity to discern its wisdom or lack thereof. Is this attempt to discern this persons true identity something useful for a member of the coven? Do you ask so that you can discredit if he does not oblige? Do you ask to know if he is a powerful and wise acolyte? Both courses of action would be beneficial to the inquisitors, while knowing his true identity or not does not matter to members of the coven. Ones words and actions matter most to the coven, not ones identity.

Only an inquisitor would be so interested in ones identity over ones wisdom.


Would you rather have the smurf be Foolishness, or random lurker X?

What about Ace, or BloodyC0bbler?

How exactly is this purely a scum-motivated question? It arguably helps town far more, given that if the smurf is town scum already know they are town and they are already automatically a threat. Knowing a player's identity is less important to scum. As scum I have left otherwise "good" townies alive to throw off towns before, simply because they were completely wrong.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 07 2015 23:42 GMT
#139
It is helpful by way of making a point. It is not helpful in so far as having the question answered because you ask the question knowing it won't be answered. If he was interested in displaying his identity he would not be in a disguise. It does not take a wise man to posit your question.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
June 07 2015 23:44 GMT
#140
On June 08 2015 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
So Breshke any thoughts on Wherebugsgo right now?


not really. Do you?

On June 08 2015 08:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:
Hi

On June 08 2015 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:28 Kickstart wrote:
On June 08 2015 08:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I just got around to post and saw that Kickstart made a pact with the devil himself -_- Also I don't like Wherebugsgo voting FreezingFoot on the fact that FreezingFoot is a potential smurf.
@Kickstart thoughts on Wherebugsgo attacking FreezingFoot for being a smurf?

Being a smurf is not alignment indicative.


refusing to divulge relevant information sure is!

identity is a large part of mafia.


So do you think someone that has chosen to smurf is more likely to reveal who they are as town or mafia then?


I think they would be more likely to reveal themselves as town.

Granted, a smurf does not have to reveal themselves to be useful to town. I have smurfed myself, and the reason I do it is often quite simple-most people don't ask, and those who do can be placated by providing opinions and good reads. I have never had the luxury of rolling scum while smurfing, but if I ever did I do not doubt it would be one of the easiest ways to achieve victory.

It is plainly obvious why smurfing is far more advantageous to the individual player than the team as a whole. The town only benefits if the player who is smurfing is a high caliber town player, rolls town, and escapes getting shot night 1 due to being a smurf. Otherwise, town stands to gain nothing from a mediocre townie or a bad townie smurfing other than a lack of insight into the player's behaviour.

You should always hold smurfs to a higher standard because if they refuse to reveal their identity then you have no background to be working with. You have no expectation of their play, and an ordinarily good townie has rolled scum on a smurf you have no way of knowing.


Yeah I understand this but that doesn't make not revealing who you are to be alignment indicative. If someone has chosen to smurf they have chosen pre game that they probably don't want to reveal who they are. I feel like saying, reveal yourself or get lynched, is a waste because it depends on the player on how they will act so you can't really get much from that.

Also to talk about this now instead of when mafia will be trying to hunt roles. I think it is best in at least the first phase that a lot of the chosen powers are information type roles specifically scrying
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