Foots just hard defended LS so much and his logic wasn't even making sense to anyone. Though he was on Bill which is to me the second scummiest. But if I was mafia and got Bill on my team I would bus his ass too cause its only a matter of time before he gets lynched regardless of alignment.

Bill Murray

United States9292 Posts

June 09 2015 23:31 GMT

#846

thats not true
i never get d1 wagons on me as scum

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

June 09 2015 23:32 GMT

#847

On June 10 2015 08:26 Kickstart wrote:
I think foot looks really fucking bad after this. Bats redeemed for not letting shenanis go down and going onto LS when Bill shananid off the vote.

I agree, although the only thing holding me back is some of his responses to the pressure that I had put on him earlier in the game.

Granted, I never like fully felt great about it, but it was one of those things where I was wondering "yeaaahhh maybe I'm just tunneled here and let's give it some time".

The problem is that I had a note in my sheet that after I relieved pressure on FF he kinda didn't do anything for a bit. It's pretty classically scummy to do just enough to throw off suspicion and then go and "lose heat" by not doing anything too out-there for a while. I think it stems from the fact that if a player takes suspicion they are hesitant to go ahead and participate again immediately for fear of being suspected again. I've seen some townies exhibit this behaviour but the method in which they do it is generally different. They don't just straight up disappear but they have some sort of input to provide the thread and kinda lament the fact that they aren't taken seriously. In some cases they also fight back. With scum you are more apt to not notice that they are gone, which is ironically the best way to identify that you were right to begin with. I've been trying to be conscious of that here and I do think that's the case.

With all that said my read on FF is not very strong either way right now. BM is a better lynch tomorrow.

Also of the Stutters voters I think BM and Tubesock look the worst, but I also wouldn't be shocked if there was a scum on the LS lynch. While it is extended majority I do think scum would at least try to have an out by placing a vote on LS. The thing though is if they did that they would've done it probably after the first 24 hours.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

June 09 2015 23:35 GMT

#848

the other thing is that FF took a lot of attention for his antics close to lynch time and scum are generally fully aware of this. If indeed he is scum he either gambled on it saving LS and wasting the lynch, which I guess he thought was more valuable than losing a scum teammate. I would probably agree if I were in that boat and I had a scum teammate roll over and die on day 1-losing someone day 1 fucking sucks but it's actually surprisingly easy to prevent while ending up looking okay simply because most people will label you as not being scum because of how bold you need to be to do that.

Since I think we should just treat FF as likely to be one of the better players in this game, even though I think his opinions all suck, we should probably take them at face value instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt.

hehe

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 09 2015 23:35 GMT

#849

The scum discussion at the begining puts you and foot both null, maybe slightly town just for being active in the thread but not really. In everything after that bugs reads town and foot reads scummy.

yamato77

11589 Posts

June 09 2015 23:36 GMT

#850

I wasn't elected LOL

fuck you mafia lel

I rekt you.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

June 09 2015 23:36 GMT

#851

On June 10 2015 08:36 yamato77 wrote:
I wasn't elected LOL

fuck you mafia lel

I rekt you.

yo don't say that

now you gonna be shot in the dick

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 09 2015 23:37 GMT

#852

err the smurf discussion at the beginning that is

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

June 09 2015 23:37 GMT

#853

also if you are a townie please don't fucking say whether you got elected or not

scum don't need more info when they still have an extra KP floating around

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 09 2015 23:38 GMT

#854

O nice they lost one of their bullets without getting to use it. Fucking rekt.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

June 09 2015 23:39 GMT

#855

On June 10 2015 08:38 Kickstart wrote:
O nice they lost one of their bullets without getting to use it. Fucking rekt.

yeah it's really good for us because I think just those two extra KP can be game breaking.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 09 2015 23:39 GMT

#856

makes defending him if he is scum even more reasonable imo. Could be tunneling way hard on this association but to me that is the only world that makes sense atm because the defense from foot didn't even make sense to me. And now he has gone missing lol.

Kickstart

United States1941 Posts

June 09 2015 23:41 GMT

#857

Could probably win just off of coordinating witchcraft actions at this point, but for such a lurky town that would require way too much effort.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

June 09 2015 23:42 GMT

#858

Fcking rekt. Well, that puts bugs as a townie in my reads. FF, why should you not be lynched next?

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

June 09 2015 23:42 GMT

#859

right...

I don't want to lean too heavily on association here, but if mafia were scum, the person they'd be okay with killing off most likely would be the priest

If indeed we had 2 scum on day 1 they would need the KP at all costs. They'd also definitely be able to use it very easily given that anyone on a successful or good-looking lynch becomes a good target for a blue snipe. 2 shots gives them double the chances.

Now with one shot they have to really guess correctly, or just save it for when it is mathematically beneficial for them. That's in our benefit because we can actually use the blue roles without having to worry as much about being sniped. Obviously the people who got those roles tonight still need to live into day 3ish because of the 72 hour rule, (which is actually pretty fucked up, it means you can't claim immediately) but that's better than nothing I guess