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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2015 19:53 GMT
#1601
On June 10 2015 04:37 milo109 wrote:
You do realize that if we lynch Chocolate and he flips town, tommorrow is hell on earth?


You do realize, pointing that out while not doing anything helpful to find scum... is very unhelpful.

I feel like your trying to scare us away from a Choco lynch...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2015 19:54 GMT
#1602
EBWOP

very unhelpful and probably scum motivated...
I can take that responsibility.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 09 2015 19:57 GMT
#1603
I guess you better come up with a better world milo, another solution explain yoru reads etc... you know try to play mafia?

Also I've read VE several times in my filter I believe, most of htem was that he was just playing pretty towny to me.

Also why is being wrong so much indicative of alignment? (I'll give you a hint its not btw)
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 09 2015 19:59 GMT
#1604
It isn't but being consistently wrong and (in my eyes) continuing to be wrong is pretty scummy to me
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 09 2015 20:00 GMT
#1605
Why?
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 09 2015 20:01 GMT
#1606
Because it's easy for scum to win if they can continually lynch town and go "well town is always wrong a lot, nothing wrong with that! btw let's lynch this other guy who totally isn't town"
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 09 2015 20:02 GMT
#1607
I haven't played a lot of mafia but one thing I do know is that scum doesn't like to call out other scum aside from bussing, etc.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2015 20:03 GMT
#1608
@ Scott

I'm not sure anymore tbh. The comparison looked good when I made it, but sleeping on it for a few days... eh it's possible but a stretch.

Overall I'm liking Fidei more. I think he's been making some good points and arguments. Then there's stuff like this
On June 10 2015 02:11 Fidei86 wrote:
Can people start posting where their votes are going to fall at the moment? I think it's probably best to get those now, so we can discuss them, since we seem pretty fractured.

##VOTE: Ticktock


Which as far as I can tell is because of my suggesting a possibility of a Choco, Milo, Fidei scumteam. OMGUS kus I suggested him as scum, and then moreso because he likes Choco and Milo.

@ Fidei
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here as to why you are voting me.

Honestly though, even if both Choco and Milo flip red I'm not 100% on Fidei. I just felt like he fit best into that team idea.

I definitely still find Choco the best lynch today.
I can take that responsibility.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 09 2015 20:05 GMT
#1609
Tahts not alignment indicative at all chocolate. People are wrong all the time, sometimes people are wrong all game and they are town. Sometimes scum are right all game.

It happens, but saying someone is scum because they have been wrong to often isn't...the best way to go about things. there has to be more to it than that.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 09 2015 20:07 GMT
#1610
On June 10 2015 05:05 Damdred wrote:
Tahts not alignment indicative at all chocolate. People are wrong all the time, sometimes people are wrong all game and they are town. Sometimes scum are right all game.

It happens, but saying someone is scum because they have been wrong to often isn't...the best way to go about things. there has to be more to it than that.

Additionally VE and TT have had each other as town all game and if one is attacked, the other retaliates
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 09 2015 20:07 GMT
#1611
I've given my world a thousand times. VE/Damdred + 1. The plus one is the hardest one to find, since there are some many players lurking and playing mildly scummy. Anyway. Let's be productive then. Can Nydus/Ticktock/Scott consider the world where Templar, Choolate and I are all town? Who would be the mafia team then? It's the world I predict we're going to live in tommorrow, and I think it will help.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2015 20:11 GMT
#1612
On June 10 2015 05:02 Chocolate wrote:
I haven't played a lot of mafia but one thing I do know is that scum doesn't like to call out other scum aside from bussing, etc.


I'm not sure I buy this, but I get the idea. Scum will tend to ignore each other since they have a QT talk to each other and see where they are at and thus don't need to interact in-thread as much. I can also see why you see VE and myself as scum based on this.

I'm wondering if you see the same thing happening elsewhere?

You can keep focused on me and VE if you like, I just want to know if you find anyone else scummy... There is 3 mafia left after all.
I can take that responsibility.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 09 2015 20:12 GMT
#1613
But you aren't explaining anything milo at all, you don't explain your scum reads you are just putting random teams up without pushing ANYONE.

@Chocolate, show me examples of attacking/chain saw defending then.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 09 2015 20:14 GMT
#1614
I find fidei and milo unlikely to be mafia
I think you and VE are mafia
I'm unsure about the other people, and to be honest I don't really want to make a judgment just yet, mostly because I don't want people to feel threatened by me and not make the VE/TT vote, which I think we need
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 09 2015 20:15 GMT
#1615
On June 10 2015 05:12 Damdred wrote:
But you aren't explaining anything milo at all, you don't explain your scum reads you are just putting random teams up without pushing ANYONE.

@Chocolate, show me examples of attacking/chain saw defending then.

I literally did last page twice.

First example: I attack TT, VE attacks me
Second example: GGT attacks VE, TT attacks GGT
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2015 20:21 GMT
#1616
On June 10 2015 05:07 milo109 wrote:
I've given my world a thousand times. VE/Damdred + 1. The plus one is the hardest one to find, since there are some many players lurking and playing mildly scummy. Anyway. Let's be productive then. Can Nydus/Ticktock/Scott consider the world where Templar, Choolate and I are all town? Who would be the mafia team then? It's the world I predict we're going to live in tommorrow, and I think it will help.


Not sure why you threw GGTemplar in there, but ok I'll bite.

If you and Choco (possibly just Choco since I have a hard time thinking you are scum if he isn't) were to flip town right now or w/e...

I would probably be looking hard at Nydus and Damdred. I don't think they could be a team though since Damdred did a decent mini-case on Nydus earlier. I mean I could see Damdred bussing a teammate, but his read on Nydus came out N1 when there was no pressure on him before so I can't imagine that's what was happening here.

Fidei would be exactly where he is in my reads still.

I'd also be relooking at Scott and Onegu.

-----------
I'm prob about to head out to run some errands, so will be lurking a bit more then running those. Will do my thing of reading filters and such when I get back later on tonight.

Despite Choco scumming me for it, I feel pretty confident in my VE townread. I'll look over his filter later on if I have time though just to be sure I didn't miss anything
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2015 20:27 GMT
#1617
On June 10 2015 05:14 Chocolate wrote:
I find fidei and milo unlikely to be mafia
I think you and VE are mafia
I'm unsure about the other people, and to be honest I don't really want to make a judgment just yet, mostly because I don't want people to feel threatened by me and not make the VE/TT vote, which I think we need


Are you more certain that either VE or myself are scum? Who would you vote for if neither of us had votes on us yet?

On June 10 2015 05:15 Chocolate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 05:12 Damdred wrote:
But you aren't explaining anything milo at all, you don't explain your scum reads you are just putting random teams up without pushing ANYONE.

@Chocolate, show me examples of attacking/chain saw defending then.

I literally did last page twice.

First example: I attack TT, VE attacks me
Second example: GGT attacks VE, TT attacks GGT


My attack on GG was in no way a defense of VE. GG forced D2 to be a day of Him vs Me since he kept pushing his insta-scumread on me. Naturally I pushed back on GG.

I actually see VE lashing out at both you and GG as more of a direct reaction to the two of you scumreading him, than anything to do with me.
I can take that responsibility.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 09 2015 20:52 GMT
#1618
@Ticktock

Can you rehearse your arguments for a VE town read? I've just been over his filter fully for the first time, and it's actually completely useless. The only reads he makes all game are town on Scott and Nydus and scum on Chocolate and GGT. Almost every other post is him congratulating himself on being such a great townie, or responding in a "he-says she-says" ephemera type way. I had thought that he had tunnelled Chocolate pretty hard, but it wasn't even really a tunnel, it was more of a lynch mob. As soon as Chocolate made his (admittedly weird) first post, VE started on him and essentially didn't let go, but he kept his arguments almost exclusively to one-liners and angry rebuttals.

All in all, I found it EXTREMELY unenlightening and unedifying. Also he hasn't posted anything for over a day - at this rate he's on track to be mod-killed.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 09 2015 20:54 GMT
#1619
@TT put another way, I still think you're mafia, but you're the only one actually trying to make reasoned arguments on this thread at the moment, so I should really ask what you have to say. I also really, really want to hear what Damdred has to say as well. Damdred and VE have barely exchanged any reads or chat at all this entire game, and that's strange for two people who have been so outspoken on other issues.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 09 2015 20:57 GMT
#1620
So here is a VE game as scum that he survives until the end. Carnival Cruise Mafia Mafia Absorber Survived Night 5
When the worry is off him (about day 3) he doesn't post for shit until a "Sorry catch up in the thread" - The obvious town in obviousone calls him out and VE starts posting like a madman again. He says Obviousone is scum as well. VE wins the game.

Hmmm looks awfully familiar
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