EPT[M][N]Holy Guardians Chapter 1 - Page 82
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Fidei86
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scott31337
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Tictock
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Sorry I don't think I have time to rehash my read on VE at the moment, tbh it was largely carried off what I saw in D1 and just haven't seen anything off him since that makes me think he could be scum. However between him being absent lately, and those posts by you and scott I think his will be the first filter I look at when i get back later. Also Fidei, I'm more interested in the reasons why people are voting for me or anyone else than simply who they are voting for atm. Since Milo started me thinking about a world where Choco is town (and I might be a little tunneled on him tbh), I'd have to say that in such a world a scumteam with Damdred and VE being scum here would make sense I'm tempted to suggest Scott would fit into a team like that as well, but I'm not sure that works. Eh this whole paragraph is likely just WIFOM thinking kus it's kinda just a floating thought atm. Sorry I need to head out and get stuff done, I'll try and explain my thinking better after I'm back. | ||
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scott31337
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scott31337
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On June 05 2015 03:49 VisceraEyes wrote: This game is so weird, the people I DON'T expect to have reads on me do and the people I DO expect to have reads on me don't. Who were these people? On June 04 2015 23:08 VisceraEyes wrote: I came out of hibernation to give a ride or die townread on scott. Good job buddy. And yes, this is the pocket I was referring to if you are mafia - get on my good side? The Won't lynch today pile you have - Won't Lynch Today / I WANNA say town, but I just can't yet for some reason: Damdred Onegu You have not interacted with either of these people at all when you got to this. Has this changed? On June 06 2015 17:36 VisceraEyes wrote: And just in case anyone else had any fucking doubt, this is what VE looks like when he's town and tries. ![[image loading]](http://galeri2.uludagsozluk.com/388/and-its-gone_399107.jpg) On June 08 2015 01:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Damdred just look at what Chocolate says about why he is voting for me EoD1. After he comes to this "realization" that he's just OMGUSing me and that I may be town or whatever, he KEEPS voting for me because "he doesn't have any other mafia reads" and when he DOES finally vote for Kickstart (because he's the only other realistic wagon) he EVEN SAYS that it's just to save his life. He NEVER had any mafia reads during D1, and I think that he AS mafia just didn't want to piss anyone off. Wow, you do actually interact with Damdred... Once... On June 08 2015 10:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Yup, still not mafia. Obviously I have to reevaluate. I'll be back before dawn or whatever. Yeah... On June 09 2015 07:00 Fidei86 wrote: One crazy thought I just had is that the scum team is VE, Damdred and Chocolate, and VE and Damdred have been trying to bus Chocolate all game, but the town keep screwing it up and voting for townies. This tinfoil fits soooo well though. | ||
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Chocolate
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VisceraEyes
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scott31337
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On June 10 2015 07:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Bad idea. I'm town, just AFK. Best defense ever guys that's solved let's go back to Chocolate | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On June 10 2015 07:20 scott31337 wrote: Best defense ever guys that's solved let's go back to Chocolate What's the accusation again? Disappeared after being wrong on my most certain scumread in the game? Guilty! Still not mafia though. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Honestly at this point I'm fine with either. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Do I think VE plays this way as mafia? ##Vote: Chocolate Now it's my turn to OMGUS. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Fidei86
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Fidei86
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That is even after the Day 1, where the people voting on KS were me, him, ritoky, Damdred and milo. Ritoky is confirmed town, and most people have milo confirmed town too. On the assumption that you believe I'm town, that leaves only Damdred voting on KS (other than Choco himself), and I'm pretty sure Damdred was on the Chocolate "wagon" before it even started. This analysis rings especially true because the vote was so close, one more mafia vote on KS would have swung it. Obviously this whole thing rests on the premise that milo isn't scum. We've all been over several times why we generally think milo is town. Therefore I think the only reasonable conclusion is that either Damdred and Chocolate are both mafia, or neither of them are. Has anyone noticed Damdred deflecting off Chocolate at all? | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On June 10 2015 07:54 Fidei86 wrote: I vote laundry list. Seconded! would you rather me come back in here and show you why I'm town, including a laundry list of horrible things to say to the remaining players? Yep, lets light those fires under towns ass. + Show Spoiler + I hear town farts burn Green @ Fidei I recall Damdred saying he was still highly suspect of Choco N1, however he stopped mentioning Choco for the most part after it became clear D2 was about GG. | ||
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Fidei86
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Tictock
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On June 10 2015 08:14 Fidei86 wrote: Another reason why I think Chocolate is probably town is that literally nobody in the thread has spoken up for him at all, except me and milo. Nobody has said anything positive about him. That is even after the Day 1, where the people voting on KS were me, him, ritoky, Damdred and milo. Ritoky is confirmed town, and most people have milo confirmed town too. On the assumption that you believe I'm town, that leaves only Damdred voting on KS (other than Choco himself), and I'm pretty sure Damdred was on the Chocolate "wagon" before it even started. This analysis rings especially true because the vote was so close, one more mafia vote on KS would have swung it. Obviously this whole thing rests on the premise that milo isn't scum. We've all been over several times why we generally think milo is town. Therefore I think the only reasonable conclusion is that either Damdred and Chocolate are both mafia, or neither of them are. Has anyone noticed Damdred deflecting off Chocolate at all? I'm starting to really see Choco and Damdred as a possible team here actually. D2 both Choco and Damdred were much less active and backed off a lot in how much they were pushing their own thoughts in the game. Choco kinda just left the game for a bit and Damdred sheeped VE then later comes up with his own reasons to push on GG. Damdred was also pretty ready to push Choco is seemed like both D1 and N1 until he was interacting with ritoky EoD1. I'm starting to wonder if the discussion between scum!Dam and rit promted scum!Dam to move off his bus on Choco and push into Kick. This might also explain why rit was the N1 NK since rit and Dam seem to know each others playstyles and if Dam is scum here he might have pushed for rit to be killed before he caught on... Sorry that's pretty WIFOM until I can confirm how the discussion between Dam and rit when down, and when the notion of Dam bussing his scummates got brought up this game. Everything seems pretty darned plausible to me though... God, I'm not even sure what to make of today, everything is so up in the air... Choco still seems to be at the center of it all though, or at least close to it. I'm starting to think my vote may just stay on him... | ||
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Damdred
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Secondly I was never on chocolate d1 to bus him. I believe I only voted once d1 and that was on ks. I did say bh I,believe that I didn't like chocolate but I only pushed nhm, and kick I believe d1. Also feels like shennanies on me will happen. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On June 10 2015 09:05 Fidei86 wrote: Okay, so literally nobody has been defending Chocolate at all (except milo and I). I really think that says a lot, because if he were mafia I would have expected someone to at least lightly deflect off him, or to vote to save him. And now this post has me back to thinking that a Choco, Milo, Fidei team is possible again... Starting to think I'm tunneled on Choco and don't even know it really... @ Damdred So where are you right now, who are you thinking is most likely scum? Is scott right that VE's play is starting to look like his scum play? Did you disagree with my look at Milo's EoD vote? Did I miss some possibilities or something? | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
Not sure that breaks my tinfoil hat theory about Damdred killing Rit N1 but it was mostly just the ramblings of my brain while I did other stuff. Finally about to dive into filters, but right now I'm tempted to vote whoever suggested we start re-evaluate everything today just for the amount of headache I've gotten because of it. | ||
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