So Tictock makes some good points on VE, and makes a lot of sense there in his filter dive.
Fidei still thinks me and Tictock are scum
I'm done with Onegu's excuses
Chocolate sees me vote VE - votes VE - doesn't do anything else
But I'll be back at least an hour before deadline to check on anything else that changed.
Leave me any questions you would like.

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 10 2015 16:57 GMT

#1664

Okay my scummers are voting again who I think is town.
After re-reading Milo's filter, the unvote can only carry so much,
VE didn't get all emotional and capsy when he's mafia and called out on it, and he did not do it this time - he passed my battrap(tm) test.

I'm going back on chocolate unless someone has a case.

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 10 2015 17:01 GMT

#1666

How about at least a baby case Onegu on Damdred?

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 10 2015 17:18 GMT

#1670

So KS's hard claim post was http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view.php?post_id=24368838
and Milos unvote with proper BBCode was http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view.php?post_id=24368841

There were a TOTAL of two Teamliquid posts in between these - and we know BH uses this number for RNG. Is this possible? Did scum!Milo see a soft claim and had this prepared?

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 10 2015 17:18 GMT

#1671

RNG test

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 10 2015 17:18 GMT

#1672

hmm

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 10 2015 18:04 GMT

#1679

On June 11 2015 02:46 milo109 wrote:
Scott. You honestly think that I saw a soft, prewrote an unvote, and then just started refreshing the page every 15 seconds hoping he would claim?

Just throwing thoughts out there since beyond the unvote you're pretty scummy and you just seem to be carrying it way too much if you are town.

The links didn't work but it was the number at the end that was important. 842-838=3.

Arrr

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 10 2015 18:31 GMT

#1681

That's all you have to say eh? 4,3.
lkdjfalsjflskjdflkjdsfs

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 10 2015 18:32 GMT

#1682

Not saying shit but lurking and planning in the QT how to vote?

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 10 2015 20:05 GMT

#1690

Chocolate voted for you VE.

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 10 2015 23:31 GMT

#1722

Sigh. Triple LYLO? great...

Well I sure kicked up my game as well If I am scum, just like Tictock. Sounds like Damd wants to go after me and GG it out - not surprised. Let's see how well that will work. I'll re-read after a bit though.

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 10 2015 23:48 GMT

#1723

NHM was totally lurking, very helpful

If Milo is "confirmed town" he doesn't care about his wincon - I'd be trying to go somewhere, but no

Me and Tictock are actually trying to figure things out.
Damdred is putting in a lot more effort then Onegu/Milo/VE

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 11 2015 00:25 GMT

#1731

[QUOTE]On June 11 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 11 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 08 2015 06:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Day 2 Final Vote Count

Tictock(4): ~~GGTemplar~~, GGTemplar, Fidei86, Chocolate, NydusHerMain
GGTemplar(6): VisceraEyes, Onegu, Tictock, ~~Scott~~, Damdred, Shendelzare, Scott
Damdred(1): milo109

I put reads and confirmed towns into this information (or rather reads from my previous post as i'm trying to start from scratch and just looking at votes and what I think is motivations).

I actually read back through some of scotts past games and one thing I noticed is a completely different tone here. When he was town in his last game he sounded really jubilant and wasn't giving huge walls of texts at all everything was clear and concise and when he started to think he was wrong or might be he initially apologized to the people and then tried to work with them.

Here hes not really like that, to me at points he sounds angry and hes much wordier than he was in his latest town game, and the posts look more like his scum games. He blends in pretty well I think without pushing a lot of the thread forward himself. Also I pointed it out in one of my posts earlier about how crappy acting he was towards me, its just a horribly angry attitude and is vastly different then his last town game as well.

Also the most important thing about this vote and scott I think is that when he went to vote his first thought was Damdred is bussing rather than, my scum read damdred is onboard with this lynch what should this mean to me?

Also he says hes going to vote Fideli during the night. But never mentions him ends up on chocolate last night, well he does mention him that he looks better. But after he said if i'm alive i'm going to be on fideli etc. he doesn't really mention him during the day or try to pressure him.

He also has that weird onegu is town read that he has went towards and backed off of.

I'm kinda convinced that scott is scum here.

TLDR: First scum read is scott
His tone is different from his last town game.
Really angry sounding and confrontational
Rather than working with people and trying to see how he is wrong
Sometimes forgets reads or goes back on them at a moments notice when almost nothing has changed (oneg)
Votes with his scum read but just says it must be a bus rather than looking at the alternatives[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]

I also have had only one town game previously, and got lynched day 1. [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?user=scott31337]http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?user=scott31337[/url] Here's the link. There wasn't much to look on - I went to sleep and the wagon built on me in about 12 hours and I only had a half an hour of time - I threw out my quick thoughts and didn't post again. I was town that game and I am town this game. I learned a lot.

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 11 2015 06:19 GMT

#1735

I'm fairly certain Fidei is town now as well, his reaction to EoD while a little overblown was pretty geniune. Though he is dead wrong, it is 100% part of Town's responsibility to keep themselves from being lynched, it's probably more important than finding scum tbh.

This 100% worries me in a way -

On June 11 2015 14:10 Tictock wrote:
Fuck, I'm too pissed off at how this game has been going (and work was pretty shitty tonight too) so I think I'm gunna hold off doing filters and shit till Day phase.

Hopefully mafia kills me tonight, I'm fairly over this game right now...

I'm not even sure who I'd suggest you guys look into if I do die, Onegu, VE, and Nydus are who I'm disliking most atm. I'd like to look into Scott a little more before I call him scum...

I'll be around if anyone wants to chat.

If you are mafia you won this already - It's triple LYLO - I like you still you want to try anymore bud but I've lost my morale.

I have to still think you are town, and I know I'm town - and we all have to vote together or else it's lost.

Milo with this carry fucking unvote sucks
NHM and Onegu are useless but I have to go with Onegu town to make this work

I don't give a fuck anymore - I'll sheep you but in theory you should die if you are town tonight. I thought I was the kill for sure night two since I was the most townread. Now people are scumming me because they are out of options now Damd scummed me a bit and let it go
I did a light pressure on VE and he didn't wig out, I read a lot of his games and he does lots of caps as mafia and pressured.

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 11 2015 06:27 GMT

#1736

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 11 2015 06:42 GMT

#1737

Ten posts in 72 hours?

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scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 11 2015 07:08 GMT

#1740

On June 11 2015 15:59 Tictock wrote:
@Scott

Lol I'll take one of those, I hope that's the conciliatory prize when Town looses one of these games.

You say VE didn't wig out, does him rolling over make sense for his Townplay? Like I'd honestly preffer if he had at least shared an opinion and called out people for being bad than just going "f this, I've done shit, vote choco".

I'm also unsure why you'd want to sheep me after those last 2 posts >.<

Like I'd be willing to sheep Damdred right now, but the last wagon he built killed our blue role (sorry Dam, I'm prob not gunna let that one go)

I think it's a safe bet that tonight it's one of Damdred, Scott, or I to die.

I'm just lost man - If we didn't get scum last night triple lylo is not going to happen. You are still my highest town read. I said I want to sheep because i'm frustrated.

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 11 2015 07:13 GMT

#1741

I did a test on VE, it wasn't much but it showed enough to unvote him. Choco (conftown now) wanted to vote him though.

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 11 2015 07:24 GMT

#1745

That's the voice of reason - it's coming from the OBS QT from Ritoky and the rest of our dead townies. They will not be silent.

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

June 11 2015 07:30 GMT

#1747

On June 11 2015 16:17 Tictock wrote:
I'm also regretting going with my w/e read on Onegu and getting to this point in the game where we still aren't sure on him...

If he had done a little more with his reads before EoD I would be fine with him, but since he's just relentless pushin on Dam who I'm fairly certain is town I'm not sure...

I'm also not sure that actually makes Onegu scum from what I'm understanding of his style... Ugh

Tell me more about this -

I thought Onegu played this crap town game to be honest- We got triple lylo - and I hope you understand this. Who would you vote for or vigi if we could right now?