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milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 04 2015 03:38 GMT
#621
As for you and ritoky... I feel like you're asking me to referee this knife fight for you. I'll wait for the blood to finish dripping before I come to a conclusion.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 03:50 GMT
#622
On June 04 2015 12:19 Chocolate wrote:
my thoughts went from
"him siding with kickstarter"
to
"he apparently read about half of what we've posted today and yet only came up with a very "safe" (in the sense that it makes sense to call the most active player town) read"
to
"What good is it to say "X player seems town"? There's no risk at all in that situation. "
to
"General inactivity
His only contribution of note was to call a very active player town which seems way too conservative"

it wasn't policy per se, IDK where you're getting that from. it was inactivity combined with conservative play


yes but your post said: reason #1: general inactivity. which means policy. i can't read your mind.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 03:54 GMT
#623
Fair enough. I prob should just take a break from the game for a bit here...

Just getting tired of getting scummed this game for little to no reason.

I get it, I'm a new person here you all want to push people you don't know and get reads on them. I accepted that early on when there wasn't much to go on, but at this point in the game I've done plenty to give you guys material to work with.

If you still have a hard time reading me, check the 2 most recent NSM games which I played in.

@ritoky
Maybe that's what you are reacting to? My play has changed a lot since the first game I played with you.
I can take that responsibility.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 03:55 GMT
#624
On June 04 2015 12:19 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 12:09 ritoky wrote:
On June 04 2015 11:37 Tictock wrote:
On June 04 2015 11:06 ritoky wrote:
On June 04 2015 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Scott is looking better given his posts today. I'm holding him to this post in particular, but I don't want to lynch him today.

On June 04 2015 04:47 scott31337 wrote:
On June 04 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:
On June 04 2015 04:27 scott31337 wrote:
On June 04 2015 04:16 ritoky wrote:
On June 04 2015 04:11 scott31337 wrote:
I'm back now -

[quote]

I do not like this post. It really does not say much and have any conclusions - although he shares the same ideas with VE as I do -

[quote]

I'm going to keep an eye on him for now.

Damdred never did reply to my meta question and has magic meta townreads, but we wait until Day 2 unless something comes up.

VE is noting Chocolate is trying to get a easy ML on me, I like where he's going with this - and I don't think it's a VE pocket, although I've seen him play like that either way.

From how Milo defended himself I believe he is town. I still like Kickstart although the thread consensus seems to be the opposite.

I'll reread a few pages of the thread I was pretty blitzed last night when I did so.


do you have any scum reads? all i got from this was you think milo is town and kickstart is town. i will take more of any kind of reads, but more interested in your scum reads.


GGTemplar and Chocolate would be at the top of my scum list. I could sheep Kickstart's case on GG, It brings up fairly good points. I was awaiting a response before I voted, and we got another whole day as well.



When I played with you in that student thing I remember you asking a whole lot more questions as town. Why are you much less inquisitive this game?


I have friends from out of state with me right now and they leave later today so I'm not spending a whole lot of time on the game at the moment. I'll pick it up later today/tomorrow,


Onegu posts are pretty underwhelming this far... but his intro post and this one gave me a decent laugh.
On June 04 2015 04:15 Onegu wrote:
So here we go.

In Thailand Milo is Chocolate powder. So that means Chocolate and Milo must be on the same team. Since chocolate is so tasty they must both be town.


I recall doing a similar "read" on 27nb last game D1.

On May 22 2015 09:56 Tictock wrote:
See his whole case doesn't make sense.

First 27 is clearly a better number than 26. Ends in a prime, multiple of nine AND 3...

2nd the 27 is CLEARLY attached to ninja more than bunnies, yet BM is asserting that there is too little Ninja. When is there ever too little Ninja? I mean the very absence of Ninja IS Ninja....


I guess I have to admit that he's really pretty null thus far, but I like his tone. Idk just a gut thing I guess...




????????????????????????????? what the hell is that scott read??????????

and you're saying templar's reads are weak LOL.

i think me and this guy are reading separate games.


You know what ritoky. I'm starting to rethink you this game as well.

So far you seem to like to shit on other peoples reads, but I don't see you giving any of your own.

What are your reads atm? Who do you think is the best lynch for today?


yeah you're not even reading the game.

On June 04 2015 08:08 ritoky wrote:
well his nydus read makes no sense. but i can't tell whether that makes him scum making up a read or just some guy who generally posts what immediately comes to mind before considering it. regardless it makes me less prone to trust the reads he is giving regardless of his alignment.

i have my worries about nydus cuz he disagrees with me on everything and got some super easy town reads for minimal stuff. but maybe that's just cuz he keeps calling me mafia.

i have some worries about scott which may legit be irl stuff like he said, but he is less pro-active and inquisitive this game. seems to be more concerned with fitting in and not being lynched which is pretty meh. but lots of people don't like scott...in fact no1 does. which might make him town.

chocolate might be mafia cuz VE says so and cuz he wants to policy lynch inactives over someone he developed a scum read on and i don't understand why.

last is probably ticktock but i couldn't tell you why. that one post i pointed out and couldn't explain it...dunno, it really bugged me and i haven't gotten over it LOL.


that's literally the answer to your question not even 3 pages ago. but hey, largest filter in the game, probably most reads given of anyone...0 reads given...you got it bro.


Those were your reads?

Those all look pretty null to me. You have a lot of "worries" about people, and are unsure of me because of something you dont even get yourself...

Here, maybe you can understand my point if I try to speak your language...
[image loading]


i am going to stop responding to you now. i will start saying very rude things rather than do anything worth while. needless to say i have a very low value of your opinion at this point. you could very well be mafia, and at best a donkey town. my reads are good. you should start listening to them at some point.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
NydusHerMain
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada492 Posts
June 04 2015 03:55 GMT
#625
I posted in voting thread but I wasn't sure if I also had to post it here.

Vote: GGTeMpLaR
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:02 GMT
#626
On June 04 2015 12:54 Tictock wrote:
Fair enough. I prob should just take a break from the game for a bit here...

Just getting tired of getting scummed this game for little to no reason.

I get it, I'm a new person here you all want to push people you don't know and get reads on them. I accepted that early on when there wasn't much to go on, but at this point in the game I've done plenty to give you guys material to work with.

If you still have a hard time reading me, check the 2 most recent NSM games which I played in.

@ritoky
Maybe that's what you are reacting to? My play has changed a lot since the first game I played with you.


here's the concise reason without any fluff of why i think you could be scum:
1) i don't agree with your reads and they are the opposite of mine in a lot of cases which means 1 of us is probably pretty wrong. and i don't think it is me.
2) i think your SL read is completely manufactured and making something out of nothing because you feel compelled to read him for some reason.
3) you are self centered and OMGUSing a lot. mafia tend to notice with a lot more frequency posts and accusations that target them and tend to talk about them more. i find you doing this a shit ton.
4) you made a post that gave me absolutely terrible feels.
5) you think templar is mafia for bogus reasons that have very little to do with content and a bit of hypocrisy.
6) your entry into the thread was very notice me senpai
7) "Just getting tired of getting scummed this game for little to no reason." implies there is a good reason to scum read you implying your scum (this last one is nitpicky and me being a ponce)
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:03 GMT
#627
On June 04 2015 12:38 milo109 wrote:
As for you and ritoky... I feel like you're asking me to referee this knife fight for you. I'll wait for the blood to finish dripping before I come to a conclusion.


what does this even mean?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:06 GMT
#628
i am more interested in hearing chocolate post most though. i still don't understand why he wanted to lynch an inactive scott over a person he made a scum case on.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 04 2015 04:08 GMT
#629
On June 04 2015 13:03 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 12:38 milo109 wrote:
As for you and ritoky... I feel like you're asking me to referee this knife fight for you. I'll wait for the blood to finish dripping before I come to a conclusion.


what does this even mean?

Dunno. It just came to me and sounded cool.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:08 GMT
#630
Also, VE your scum target has come back, and responded to your and my accusations; plz report to the thread.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:12 GMT
#631
milo, you've been very passive through all of this; you apparently don't want to talk about me or TT. so talk about chocolate; what do you make of his defense of VE's accusations and of my questioning him regarding policy lynching an inactive over a scum read?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 04 2015 04:20 GMT
#632
I'm reading back as we go. I don't really have a read on either of the two of you. I'd personally prefer to stay outta the mess you two have made and lynch people that I actually think are likely hits. In case it wasn't clear, I think VE is mafia. I know, I know. OMGUS and all that. But the only reason he decided to call me out is because I said I thought he might be scum. When one's two reads are based off of the first post of the day and and that, I don't see how someone can be reasonably considered town. Obviously, that makes me think Chocolate is a town. You're really good at nitpicking people Ritoky. I'm perfectly fine with votes on Day 1 based on personality of players, as I already showed by voting you. Chocolate has every right to call scott Mafia. Not quite sure why you're hard defending him from so many people.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:23 GMT
#633
I am not defending scott lol, he was on the list of people I would absolutely lynch and still would. I just think VE content wise has been pretty friggin town (his recent drop-off is a little meh) and I think chocolate pushing a policy lynch on scott over his case on VE speaks only about chocolate and nothing about scott. What it is saying to me is "hey this dude could very easily be mafia".
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:26 GMT
#634
If I am defending someone who people think is scum, it is probably Templar. I simply do not see why people are scum reading templar in the slightest. From what I have gathered people don't like his playstyle and think his reads are unoriginal or wrong. That is pretty much it. For reading straight through the game and picking out the most important posts, Templar was pretty spot on...so no idea where the scum read comes from.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 04 2015 04:27 GMT
#635
The two people you've chosen to pressure are both people who read Scott mafia. You laughed at both of their accusations. I don't see how you couldn't agree that lynching Scott would remove a low contributor from the game, and potentially also kill a mafia scum. Do you have anything more compelling than that?
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 04 2015 04:28 GMT
#636
I agree on Templar. How you got scum from that is beyond me, unless you think being sloppy is scummy.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:33 GMT
#637
On June 04 2015 13:28 milo109 wrote:
I agree on Templar. How you got scum from that is beyond me, unless you think being sloppy is scummy.


I said who "people think is scum" not specifically you. i.e. look at the vote thread
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 04 2015 04:35 GMT
#638
On June 04 2015 13:02 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 12:54 Tictock wrote:
Fair enough. I prob should just take a break from the game for a bit here...

Just getting tired of getting scummed this game for little to no reason.

I get it, I'm a new person here you all want to push people you don't know and get reads on them. I accepted that early on when there wasn't much to go on, but at this point in the game I've done plenty to give you guys material to work with.

If you still have a hard time reading me, check the 2 most recent NSM games which I played in.

@ritoky
Maybe that's what you are reacting to? My play has changed a lot since the first game I played with you.


here's the concise reason without any fluff of why i think you could be scum:
1) i don't agree with your reads and they are the opposite of mine in a lot of cases which means 1 of us is probably pretty wrong. and i don't think it is me.
2) i think your SL read is completely manufactured and making something out of nothing because you feel compelled to read him for some reason.
3) you are self centered and OMGUSing a lot. mafia tend to notice with a lot more frequency posts and accusations that target them and tend to talk about them more. i find you doing this a shit ton.
4) you made a post that gave me absolutely terrible feels.
5) you think templar is mafia for bogus reasons that have very little to do with content and a bit of hypocrisy.
6) your entry into the thread was very notice me senpai
7) "Just getting tired of getting scummed this game for little to no reason." implies there is a good reason to scum read you implying your scum (this last one is nitpicky and me being a ponce)


Ok last response to you today, kus I don't think we are getting anywhere with this back and forth anymore.

1) Whatever, we disagree that happens. I could easily flip this argument around as well. I don't like your reads, but mine seem good to me... I think your missing the possibility where we are both wrong here...
2) I pointed out stuff that makes me wary about SL because I haven't seen him use tactics like them before. How is this different from your saying I made a post that gave you "terrible feels"?
3) A lot of people on these forums are self centered, get over it. Also doesn't town have an obligation to try and keep themselves from gettin lynched, just as much as scum wants to avoid getting lynched? Not wanting to be voted on is pretty NAI in my opinion.
4) Don't use this as a reason if you can't accept others using it too.
5) I'm responding more to the way that he is going about his play. Like I feel it's really shitty that he's said I'm scum but isn't bothering to read what I'm posting. Like if I was totally going off of OMGUS I should be scumming you right? I'm not because you are clearly responding to my posts and we have established a dialog, I'm pretty sure you are town from that just not 100%.
6 & 7 both seem nitpicky to me

Since I feel like your own reads are pretty weak I also find you being hypocritical calling mine weak. At this point I think we should just agree to disagree and hate each other for the rest of the game... ok?
+ Show Spoiler +
Not serious about that, I just really feel like this is a total "kettle calling the pot black" situation
I can take that responsibility.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
June 04 2015 04:37 GMT
#639
On June 04 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 13:28 milo109 wrote:
I agree on Templar. How you got scum from that is beyond me, unless you think being sloppy is scummy.


I said who "people think is scum" not specifically you. i.e. look at the vote thread

You misunderstand me. That was me openly agreeing with you, not attempting to refute a point.

Also.. This Tictock kid. Stealing my phrase. Everyones hopping on wagon of calling you nitpicky. :/
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:38 GMT
#640
On June 04 2015 13:27 milo109 wrote:
The two people you've chosen to pressure are both people who read Scott mafia. You laughed at both of their accusations. I don't see how you couldn't agree that lynching Scott would remove a low contributor from the game, and potentially also kill a mafia scum. Do you have anything more compelling than that?


i try to make reads independently unless it involves vote logic or a LYLO situation. also when i play mafia i bus like a motherfucker (as do many others on this site), so making associative reads is largely meh. so even if a lot of the people i think could be scum think scott is mafia, it doesn't mean they can't be together.

as for me scoffing at other people's reads, yeah i think they are weak. i think they are better than reads on templar. is my read better? probably. i think from a meta-pov when he was town he was more inquisitive, engaged, and tried to fit in less/was less self preservationist in posting. could be the irl thing he said. he is a low contributing question mark with differences in meta. which for day 1 means: lynchable. that's not a strong read, in fact it is weak at best; at least i am honest and not treating my read like it is the goods.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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