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Fidei86
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Tictock
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On June 03 2015 06:05 sicklucker wrote: ##Vote Tictock I feel morally ok policy voting in non newbie games untill he proves hes town What's "moral" about a policy vote? I'm not even sure how I could be a policy vote still... I'm also wondering what people make of SL's posts like this. On June 03 2015 06:26 sicklucker wrote: oh your not going to get along with ritoky and onegu.... All I see here is SL stirring up trouble, and doing it indirectly. He is just dropping the idea that people wont like me or get along with me... That's also a new thing from SL to me, and it feels really scum motivated. On June 04 2015 06:20 sicklucker wrote: Sorry for not posting. A stressing game ended and im enjoying not being the center of attention for once. probably gonna keep relaxin Then he posts this... "sorry, not sorry" is basically all he says here. I was also not really willing to discuss this before because the last Newbie Game only ended last night. The ending to that game was far from stressful, expect to SL. I'm not even sure why he was so mad about that game, he kept claiming our last day that the game was solved and it was silly to be playing it out. Apparently he got really worked up for mafia wasting HIS time by not conceding. I really don't have a solid way to read SL, but these things I mentioned are new aspects to his play. I think he really could be scum this game because of it... going to leave my vote on GG for now though. GG doesn't even have the excuse of knowing me from past games and is basically sheeping SL with his vote on me, they could both be scum working together to try and ML me. | ||
Tictock
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On June 04 2015 05:14 Kickstart wrote: Well me OMGUSing everything is a stretch. I went on milo and sl before they even mentioned me, and my read on GGT is the same with or without him directing anything at me. I am generally of the opinion that town reads aren't of much use D1, but I was pressured to name some earlier and I named yourself and VE, for basically the same reasons. I felt that you were both applying pressure when needed, you were both driving discussion, and both were being open and honest with your thoughts - all of which I think is helpful and thus I feel that you have been helpful for town up to this point. Does that mean I think you are both 100% town? No, but I feel confident in saying that I would not vote on either of you this cycle. To be honest the only other person I feel is slightly town atm is Nydus, but definitely not on the same level as you two. I have real issues with almost everyone else who I havent mentioned because I just feel their posts are void of strong feelings and I don't like that style of play. Namely I feel like Damdred, scott, Onegu, and Fideu (just off the top of my head) are not giving us anything to work with, their posts are void of reads and strong opinions, and while Damdred has asked a lot of questions and put a bit of pressure on at times, he is still guilty of not giving us his thoughts (though he said this is how he plays and that he will wait to make a stronger case when he is ready - which I intend to hold him too, if Day 1 ends and he is still guilty of what I outlined above I will have some real questions about him because he has been active enough and seems experiences and good enough to give some solid reads but has yet to do so). I think scott and fideu are new so I can understand the reluctance to stick their necks out on anything but I don't feel that is a real excuse, they still need to share their thoughts on things. Onegu seems to have arrived late on the scene but already his posting style is suspicious to me, much too much joking around; while this is normal and understandable at the start of the game, I feel like there is plenty of content to actually address, which he has not done. Can anyone tell me if this is normal posting from Onegu? Kick, I've been reading you town so far this game, but can you please not make posts like this? This wall of text is really hard on my eyes and is painful to read. I bet a lot of people just skipped it or skimmed it. I also agree with ritoky's take on that post. It's a lot of words that don't say much. You're mostly rehashing stuff you've already said or that have been expressed in the thread already. | ||
ritoky
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ritoky
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Tictock
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This is one of the first posts I actually like from you, possibly just because I'm seeing town in Fidei as well. On June 04 2015 09:33 milo109 wrote: I would say it was, except for the sheer amount of dumb tells in it. His Damdred cop read seems forced. However, if his point of view is someone who has never played any type of mafia before, then it's possible he's just really misreading the quote that way. If I had to answer that question, I'd say that this makes Fidei very town, but I'm going to accept the possibility that he might be a good enough player to type that as mafia. Care to explain what you mean by dumb tells though? I've heard the phrase before but only sorta get what people mean when they say it. Can you give me an example so I can see what you mean? | ||
ritoky
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On June 04 2015 09:51 Tictock wrote: I also see that SL seems to be pretty happy leaving his vote on me for "reasons". I explained that we have a bit of a history, but I've never seen him do this D1 before. What's "moral" about a policy vote? I'm not even sure how I could be a policy vote still... I'm also wondering what people make of SL's posts like this. All I see here is SL stirring up trouble, and doing it indirectly. He is just dropping the idea that people wont like me or get along with me... That's also a new thing from SL to me, and it feels really scum motivated. Then he posts this... "sorry, not sorry" is basically all he says here. I was also not really willing to discuss this before because the last Newbie Game only ended last night. The ending to that game was far from stressful, expect to SL. I'm not even sure why he was so mad about that game, he kept claiming our last day that the game was solved and it was silly to be playing it out. Apparently he got really worked up for mafia wasting HIS time by not conceding. I really don't have a solid way to read SL, but these things I mentioned are new aspects to his play. I think he really could be scum this game because of it... going to leave my vote on GG for now though. GG doesn't even have the excuse of knowing me from past games and is basically sheeping SL with his vote on me, they could both be scum working together to try and ML me. i think templar's reasons for voting you were made independent of SL, but sure. the rest of this i have absolutely 0 idea how you found any alignment indicative information in any of this. like you are trying to make nuanced discussion out of utter garbage. to me it's almost like you feel compelled to give an SL read but there's no content from SL but you feel compelled to read him. so you said some stuff that was just wharrrrgarble. you coulda just said "SL hasn't done anything particularly productive so he could be mafia". i just find this post highly unnecessary and unconvincing. | ||
Tictock
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On June 04 2015 09:56 ritoky wrote: so TT are all of your reads firmly rooted in OMGUS? or? I'm trying not to, which is why I've waited till now to vote on GG or point out this stuff from SL. Do you not see more than OMGUS in my posts about them? | ||
ritoky
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Tictock
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On June 04 2015 10:07 ritoky wrote: i think templar's reasons for voting you were made independent of SL, but sure. the rest of this i have absolutely 0 idea how you found any alignment indicative information in any of this. like you are trying to make nuanced discussion out of utter garbage. to me it's almost like you feel compelled to give an SL read but there's no content from SL but you feel compelled to read him. so you said some stuff that was just wharrrrgarble. you coulda just said "SL hasn't done anything particularly productive so he could be mafia". i just find this post highly unnecessary and unconvincing. This could very well be true, I def felt GG was sheeping SL's sentiment though, if not his thinking. Yea them being a team is prob me dipping into WIFOM. As for the "wharrrrgarble" stuff. I'm noticing stuff in SL's play that stands out to me as different from what I'm used to. Given that he's been town in both games I've played in thus far, I think me noticing new plays by him is a valid cause for me to start suspecting him. I'll grant you it's not the most solid line of thinking, but then he's not my vote is he? | ||
Damdred
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On June 04 2015 09:56 Tictock wrote: Kick, I've been reading you town so far this game, but can you please not make posts like this? This wall of text is really hard on my eyes and is painful to read. I bet a lot of people just skipped it or skimmed it. I also agree with ritoky's take on that post. It's a lot of words that don't say much. You're mostly rehashing stuff you've already said or that have been expressed in the thread already. q.q I thought I was the one who gave him hell not ritoky | ||
ritoky
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as for your templar read it is not very good either lol. it pretty much reads to me like: "i don't like his playstyle and he thinks i am mafia" am i wrong? i read your case on him and it says "hey you think i am mafia ->omgus". "hey you're not interacting because the playstyle you are choosing to use is read the game chronologically and respond as you read them". and "hey i don't like your reads" that's not exactly a compelling case. i mean i get that it is day 1, but that's even bad by day 1 standards. plus i actually don't mind templar's reads. they aren't massively original but at least he highlighted some of the posts i thought were the most relevant. | ||
Damdred
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kick templars chocolate I'm leaving of fi now because his post was...interesting. but have to look again tomorrow at a few. | ||
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Tictock
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On June 04 2015 05:25 Damdred wrote: So basically almost 24 hours in game you only have a strong opinion that 2 people are town one lean and the rest is null. Meh that post just irks me, it says a lot without actually doing much bah. You were definitely the one who expressed that thought I was agreeing with. All credit goes to Damdred guys, please remove credit given to ritoky ![]() | ||
Tictock
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I did ask about this playstyle of his(GG's) a few people have mentioned. Is it something he's done before or some kinda play that's established? I'm also not sure why you are all over me here too, but at least your not doing this indirect pushing or ignoring me. | ||
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Kickstart
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Tictock
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On June 04 2015 04:47 scott31337 wrote: I have friends from out of state with me right now and they leave later today so I'm not spending a whole lot of time on the game at the moment. I'll pick it up later today/tomorrow, Onegu posts are pretty underwhelming this far... but his intro post and this one gave me a decent laugh. On June 04 2015 04:15 Onegu wrote: So here we go. In Thailand Milo is Chocolate powder. So that means Chocolate and Milo must be on the same team. Since chocolate is so tasty they must both be town. I recall doing a similar "read" on 27nb last game D1. On May 22 2015 09:56 Tictock wrote: See his whole case doesn't make sense. First 27 is clearly a better number than 26. Ends in a prime, multiple of nine AND 3... 2nd the 27 is CLEARLY attached to ninja more than bunnies, yet BM is asserting that there is too little Ninja. When is there ever too little Ninja? I mean the very absence of Ninja IS Ninja.... I guess I have to admit that he's really pretty null thus far, but I like his tone. Idk just a gut thing I guess... | ||
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