EPTi think he undersells my scum case though. particularly about SL and thread entry.
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i think he undersells my scum case though. particularly about SL and thread entry. | ||
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On June 04 2015 09:39 Tictock wrote: Ok, took me longer to get back to this game than I thought thanks to a rough day at work, bit disappointing that there has only been ~4 new pages in the thread though, activity seemed better right at the start. Couple of things that I wanted to respond to right away, before I reread the thread and start putting together more solid reads for EoD. GG, dude, it's D1 and your already asking me to repost/restate stuff I've said? It's not a long thread to read yet, and my filter is def not that long... Besides, shouldn't you be paying attn to my posts more than anyone's if your scum reading me? @Scott, I'm not familiar with the bolded term, mind elaborating? I agree that this completely looks like a scum play to me. He's mimiking a vote already on me, his reasons for voting me aren't bad per say but they are far from solid. GG dropped into the game and just made that read without trying to interact with me and ignored my response to him + Show Spoiler + and I have to assume any of my other posts, I'm active enough that you should be able to expand on that read on me by now ##Vote: GGTeMpLaR The Chezinu Rule has always been true in teamliquid. I've used this rule many times and it has never failed me. Of course, this is my first time playing forum mafia outside of teamliquid. I'm quite renowned there and I expected to be taken strange here with my unique play style. If you are town, please read up on the Chezinu Rule on teamliquid. What is the rule? The rule is that the first person who doesn't know Chezinu to vote Chezinu is mafia. Why the rule works? I have a very unique playing style that I can't help. I tried many times over the years to play like everyone else, but it just fails. So what happens is in the beginning of each game with new players, they find me strange. Since they can't read me, they accuse me. But MAFIA has always been the first to accuse as a townie wouldn't have as much confidence. To mafia, I am an easy target. It was not exactly the Chezinu rule, but on the same idea. A confusing/cryptic town Chezinu is voted as an easy target. I see GG's vote on a easy target and the first one. On June 04 2015 10:57 Kickstart wrote: Took a nap cause I was feeling like shit and moody, probably came through in my posting. Lots of people have taken issue with my Nydus town read. I just want to say again that it was hastily done and I just said it off the top of my head because people were pressuring me to give more town reads (which again I don't find fair since I gave them, but people are greedy and wanted more and I reacted badly). It can be ignored and I have tried to explain why it happened, I will have to reevaluate him later but like I said I would probably not lynch him at the moment. I saw you as a slight town read when most of the people are reading you scummy, but I did not need to defend myself for it. I was seeing you in a different point of view then others (you've brought up some good points, do not seem to be afraid to post, etc.) This post seems pressured to me though. On June 04 2015 11:23 Kickstart wrote: If that is what you think then fine, I messed up and admitted it and can't change it now. I did retract it almost immediately though. You sure you not just looking for something to jump on? I'm far from just trying to survive. Can't help but feel you and others have this convenient manufactured surprise and outrage at me. Well you already got called out on it. How do you feel about Chocolate? I wasn't liking him too much until he also saw how bad this post was. On June 04 2015 11:58 Chocolate wrote: VE for previously stated reasons, it isn't purely an OMGUS though of course that is probably it to a large extent KS I'm beginning to think is a bit fishier but it's a small hunch I have a very hard time reading damdred , you, and ritoky. Admittedly I kinda have a hard time reading the newer players too (because I subconsciously associate posts with icons lol) but tomorrow I'm going to go through them all again Onegu has pretty much been a shitposter so far which I don't like and don't think is good for town As for not liking town reads, for me it's because anyone I don't think is scum I am leaning towards null or town on (in which case I wouldn't want to lynch them). It can also restrict thinking - we need to, and do, change who we think may be scum somewhat frequently. With town, since calling a given poster town is usually held to less scrutiny, we can let that label linger and it can affect our reads [to everyone] Don't be offended if I call you or something you did scummy especially on the first day. There's very little to work on and since I don't think calling people town is productive I don't make a lot of friends I see this as Onegu's town game. He tries much harder as mafia and likes rolling mafia - but we can agree to disagree for now. He'll show some more when he feels the need. GG still has not impressed me. SL may sincerely be unmotivated due to the other game, but he really needs to kick it up. Chocolate had the same idea as me while I was reading the thread, which I like. He moves up a little now. I like Damdred, Ritoky, VE Onegu is a meta read slight town Would lynch GG Fidei86 ##Vote: GGTemplar | ||
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On June 04 2015 14:14 NydusHerMain wrote: am I invisible? are you doing things? do you want to talk about something? | ||
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probably not lynching: onegu, scott, templar i really need to work on the other 7. | ||
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I'll re-read his filter. | ||
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On June 04 2015 14:52 scott31337 wrote: What do you like about GG I may have missed Ritoky? I'll re-read his filter. First: I think the accusations are lacking. I have seen a lot of "boo his playstyle" or "i don't agree with his reads" and similar things. Your chez rule thing is a bit more interesting, but I don't necessarily think it works in regards to TT. It works for chez because chez is kinda a troll and what some people call a "blogger" or "shit poster". You paint TT as more of low hanging fruit rather than trollzy which may skew the read. Idk, my point here is that I am not sure it applies and I think there are better reasons to lynch other people. Also the list of his accusers isn't exactly a list of people who I think are town. As for what I like, look at his filter. To me he highlights all but maybe 1 or 2 of what I thought were the most important posts in the first 20 pages and gives an opinion/read on them. He comments on kickstart's opening, he comments on SL/TT interactions, he properly reads me town, he comments on kickstart being bullish, he comments on nydus' entry, and then he addresses the questions posed to him after he catches up. It just reads as town reading the thread and commenting on stuff he finds relevant. The only warning sign for me was his last post where he put milo and fid in town and dropped me out of it and didn't explain why any of that really occurred. Outside of that I don't see why people are "disappointed in him" or find anything he has done particularly scummy. | ||
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On June 04 2015 00:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Town: Nydus sicklucker Milo89 Fideu86 Mafia: Kickstark Tictock I can understand a Nydus town read, but SL? Do you see SL as townie? I see a null at the moment and unsure how to pull a townie read from SL's filter. He cannot even get Milo's or Fidei86's name spelled right. Fail on one maybe, but two? You have townreads and haven't read enough to get their name right? I can understand a "Palmar/Palmer" thing, you know what I mean? Just seems weird to me. I've explained how I feel on Kickstart (another misname) already Does any of this strike you as suspicious or am I over-reading things? Like he's throwing a shit list out and going poof? | ||
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On June 03 2015 08:35 Chocolate wrote: Just him siding with kickstarter. his posts don't reveal much at all so far. however, I think due to the low content and neutrality of his posts that he may be playing the lurker role which tends to be one that scum takes Just re-reading filters and caught on to this post. Where the hell did I side with Sicklucker? I haven't even mentioned his name before this post. | ||
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On June 03 2015 06:18 sicklucker wrote: Dandred is a good town. Ritoky might be a good mafia thats about it. onegu me and ve are regulars. Scott and tictock are two new players in there first non newbie game. Was in two games with each second is ongoing so I cant really talk about it. In the first one tictock tunneled the hell out of me when I had solved the game and it was hella annoying. A bunch of video mafia players I believe. I know milo/templar are maybe you? SL mentions me but I never spoke of him. | ||
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On June 03 2015 16:19 Tictock wrote: Was just checking in before bed, game has been somewhat dead past few hours, so I'll just leave a few of my thoughts. GG is my top scum right now. No questions. Was expecting him to at least react to my response or something... I'm unsure of Damdred, though he's earning town points in my book for reacting the same way I did to GG. I'd really like to hear from Onegu and def need to see more out of Scott. I hate to say it but scott could be scum atm. I've seen him lynched D1 twice now, when he was town he was active until he got tunneled and when he was scum he posted very much like he's doing this game. Quick little reads and short response posts. Also half his posts atm are just stating facts, nothing game relevant. Milo does look kinda scummy but I'm not sure yet, I'd like to see more out of him. Right now I cant tell if he is actually scum or if he just looks out of place because he isn't used to this style of mafia. His frustration over being insta-scummed by several people is understandable, especially being new here. What do you think so far Tictock? Has your opinion changed on me? You are being scumread by a few people as well - ![[image loading]](http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003133139/5747562267_21410032_answer_1_xlarge.png) | ||
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On June 04 2015 08:08 ritoky wrote: i have some worries about scott which may legit be irl stuff like he said, but he is less pro-active and inquisitive this game. seems to be more concerned with fitting in and not being lynched which is pretty meh. but lots of people don't like scott...in fact no1 does. which might make him town. Could this be how you feel about GGTemplar as well? I see very little resistance so I'm starting to get that mislynch him mafia doesn't care. | ||
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On June 04 2015 15:25 scott31337 wrote: I can understand a Nydus town read, but SL? Do you see SL as townie? I see a null at the moment and unsure how to pull a townie read from SL's filter. He cannot even get Milo's or Fidei86's name spelled right. Fail on one maybe, but two? You have townreads and haven't read enough to get their name right? I can understand a "Palmar/Palmer" thing, you know what I mean? Just seems weird to me. I've explained how I feel on Kickstart (another misname) already Does any of this strike you as suspicious or am I over-reading things? Like he's throwing a shit list out and going poof? his SL town read stems from his TT scum read and thinking they are opposing alignments was what i assumed from it. which in the context of when he made the read doesn't seem unreasonable to me. and if you're going poor spelling, multiple people spell my name ritocky all game. i think the spelling thing is a bit much, but i can understand a bit where the SL thing is coming from | ||
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On June 04 2015 16:01 scott31337 wrote: Could this be how you feel about GGTemplar as well? I see very little resistance so I'm starting to get that mislynch him mafia doesn't care. no i actually think templar displayed good reading comprehension and his reactions to good posts to ping out seemed town to me. it is a content thing coupled with me not being fond of the accusers/accusations. | ||
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##vote: chocolate he wanted to policy lynch scott for inactivity before the person he made a scum case on in VE, which makes absolutely no sense to me. when pressured and asked about it he gave some convoluted response about a thought process which never occurred in the thread, him having a read on scott that didn't exist because it was policy, and some factually incorrect information. add this onto VE's case, and i think it is currently the best vote. | ||
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