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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 22 2015 06:12 GMT
#921
No screw you GB I vote who I want the person who promises content for almost 72 hours and does nothing and you let him walk around.

I can't wait to flip honestly
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 22 2015 06:13 GMT
#922
The scumteam is probably something along the lines of Zealos/Stutters/Shockey.
Retired.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 06:13 GMT
#923
On May 22 2015 14:28 Stutters695 wrote:
Because he's not blue. Enough said.

dude its a closed fucking setup.
No gg, No skill.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 22 2015 06:14 GMT
#924
I'd much rather kill zealos today, 0 content vs crazy content cop check shockey lynch zealos.

sheep oneg and myself obi
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 06:14 GMT
#925
On May 22 2015 15:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The scumteam is probably something along the lines of Zealos/Stutters/Shockey.

maybe.
trfel's abscene is not good.
No gg, No skill.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 22 2015 06:16 GMT
#926
On May 22 2015 15:14 Damdred wrote:
I'd much rather kill zealos today, 0 content vs crazy content cop check shockey lynch zealos.

sheep oneg and myself obi


No lmfao. I'm not letting the guy who tunnels me over garbage live for another day.
Retired.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 22 2015 06:18 GMT
#927
So by that logic we lynch GB today right?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 22 2015 06:21 GMT
#928
On May 22 2015 15:18 Damdred wrote:
So by that logic we lynch GB today right?


-.-
You know this doesn't hold up because people talked to GB and he dropped it.

Realistically, can you make a scumteam without shockey in it?
Retired.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 22 2015 06:23 GMT
#929
On May 22 2015 15:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 15:18 Damdred wrote:
So by that logic we lynch GB today right?


-.-
You know this doesn't hold up because people talked to GB and he dropped it.

Realistically, can you make a scumteam without shockey in it?


GB hasn't drooped his acum read on me he's still tunneled as no other. So yes it does hold water.

Sure, trfel/oats/zealos. Its a possibility. Stutters is possible shock doesn't have to be scum necessarily
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 22 2015 06:27 GMT
#930
I'll sleep on it again.
Retired.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 22 2015 06:42 GMT
#931
Damdred, I stills scumread you, that's true. But I decided to give you more time since your filter is the biggest, since there are too many people calling you town, since I'm having a different approach to this game that is to try to not lead the votes but actually going with the thread.

This means I'm not lynching you today. This means I may never lynch you if people still townreads you. This doesn't mean I will stop thinking you're scum.

But I am NOT letting you NOT lynching Shockey today. Really. You have not a single argument to call this guy town. There are TONS to call him mafia.

And I'm not tunneling you over nothing. I have plenty of reasons to call you mafia, and I have already displayed the strongest ones. If people will not listen to me, I can do nothing, I already have this counter-aura of being bad.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 22 2015 06:43 GMT
#932
On May 22 2015 15:23 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 15:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 22 2015 15:18 Damdred wrote:
So by that logic we lynch GB today right?


-.-
You know this doesn't hold up because people talked to GB and he dropped it.

Realistically, can you make a scumteam without shockey in it?


GB hasn't drooped his acum read on me he's still tunneled as no other. So yes it does hold water.

Sure, trfel/oats/zealos. Its a possibility. Stutters is possible shock doesn't have to be scum necessarily


Like, you just brought oats when I talked about him Damdy.

Like

Pls.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 22 2015 06:45 GMT
#933
On May 22 2015 05:08 Damdred wrote:
You know GB, this is just a piece of friendly advice stop making wagers about your playing time in games. Strong arming people like that is not the right way to play especially when you are wrong.

You have a narrative that you think makes me scum when it doesn't, oh well. When I flip town look at zealos and stutters both promising content and vanishing again.

They will probably delurk soon after this post


Like, YOU'VE JUST SAID THAT, STUTTERS JUST DELURKED, AND YOU PUT OATS IN A MAFIA TEAM INSTEAD OF STUTTERS

I CAN'T BELIEVE IN ANYTHING YOU SAY IN THIS GAME DAMDY.
I'm adorable.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 22 2015 07:03 GMT
#934
Someone almost hard claims blue and he starts falling out of my scum list. Ozk

obi asked me a specific question
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 22 2015 07:33 GMT
#935
On May 22 2015 16:03 Damdred wrote:
Someone almost hard claims blue and he starts falling out of my scum list. Ozk

obi asked me a specific question


So you believe he is blue too?
I'm adorable.
Qwerty!
Profile Joined April 2015
106 Posts
May 22 2015 08:02 GMT
#936
Is there an option for a town concede?

To be honest, I feel pretty terrible for signing up for this game when I didn't have the time or the motivation to play. It's not fair to everyone else in the game, even the scum.

I'll do my best to get some motivation to reread this thread soon...


On May 22 2015 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 17:24 Qwerty! wrote:
On May 21 2015 17:04 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 21 2015 16:55 Qwerty! wrote:
On May 21 2015 16:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 21 2015 16:46 Qwerty! wrote:
On May 21 2015 16:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 21 2015 14:46 Qwerty! wrote:
On May 21 2015 14:31 GlowingBear wrote:
REALLY?
24 hours and only 2 pages???

Are we lynching scumdred yet?
Can you explain why he is scum, please?


Gonna make a case on him tomorrow

Truffle, why you shouldn't be lynched?
I'll await your case.

That's a fairly pointless question. A lot of the reasons that people are scumreading me are really bad (trying to answer your question? vote switch that amounted to nothing and had no mafia motivation?). Better reasons to scumread me are my laziness and poorly explained reads.

Stutters695 is my preferred lynch at this time, I'm not so confident on Obi any more.


What changed about obi?
Why not Shockey over Stutters?
How do you read Damdred and why?
Obi's kept active and posting, and his recent posts have given me the impression that he's trying to solve the game. Mostly a tone read, partly increased content.

Again, Shockey is a really risky lynch, I can easily see him flipping town. He raises some good and insightful (if misguided) points. I didn't look at his more recent posting so much, though.

Damdred is most likely town for filter length alone. I haven't found the quality of his posts to be all that great, but I am comfortable with reading him as town.


Show me those points please. I need to see you thought process

I'll kindly ask you to go to Zealos filter and give me a read on him

I'll sleep now but tomorrow I'll be reading and bringing the arguments on Damdred
Many times, Shockey showed varying levels of suspicion of people. Even though I often disagree with how he got his reads, the level of suspicion indicated by his statements and how much he pushed the read seem to be related.

This post shows the same mindset (suspicious of people who vote together), but with regards to votes on someone else, so there is some consistency there.

I also like how Shockey picks up on a supposed inconsistency from Palmar, not including his scumread Damdred in his list (though of course this was due to a misinterpretation of Palmar's intent).

Furthermore, (pending a review of Shockey's recent posting) I don't see good mafia motivation for playing this way. He might be scum, but I just don't see what makes him scum.


You see, truffle, you say that he brings good and insightful points, but your thought process shows that you think Shockey is town for taking genuine stances, which is a complete different read. It sounded to me that you decided to call him town, and when inquired to check for the good points he brings, you fail.

Easiest thing for Mafia is to form a scumteam out of association. The bad thing is that he considers my first post to call me possible town/mafia (the only two alignments possible, I know, SHOCKING) and scumreads palmar and obi for that association.

It doesn't make sense because I'm the root of his scumreads. Associations are mostly like "if this guy is Mafia, THEN this guy is totally Mafia". So what does he have to do in order to verify if his reads are correct? Having me lynched first.
But his thought process is the complete opposite. He wants PALMAR lynched first. It's not a natural stream of thought. It's fabricated.

Also, this association thing is the easiest thing to do as Mafia. Tunneling on weak arguments is also the easiest path for a Mafia who thinks being aggressive is a townie trait. But, palmar flipped town, I'm confirmed town, and he has no 180 change of his reads. How do you explain that in a town perspective?

He also had you as scum but never proceeded to talk about it. What do you make of it?
Yeah, you got me.

You want the honest truth? You won't believe it, but here it is.

I looked through his filter, and I saw some information and reads that I thought was perceptive, and I liked it. So I posted about it, and then you asked, and so I went back to find it, and I couldn't. I don't really know what to say, though that's probably related to my inability to focus..

Looking at Shockey's filter, I see why I didn't remember anything from his recent posting; there hasn't been any. He's almost certainly scum, town would make some new reads or at least apologize or do something other than just vanishing without explanation at all. He even goes so far as to say that he's not going to defend himself to find scum instead, and then proceeds to.... not find scum.

##vote ShoCkeyy




As for the Damdred case:

1. I don't think that point #1 (the Palmar) read is alignment indicative. I think it's reasonable from Damdred regardless of his alignment.

2. This point looks very strong, though I need to check the context.

3. Read Linux Mini Mafia if you haven't already.

But Damdred's explanation is somewhat plausible, and I really don't think that Damdred is the type of player who would post this much and be this aggressive. So I'll agree with not lynching him today. And he's probably still town.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-22 08:09:34
May 22 2015 08:09 GMT
#937

Vote Count:



ShoCkeyy(4) - Oatsmaster, Obiwanshinobi, glowingbear, Qwerty
Zealos(2) - Onegu, Damdred

until lynch!

ShoCkeyy is set to be lynched!



Zerg for Life
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 13:02 GMT
#938
Man, what's with the weird long ass explanation by trfel. Over explanation is bad bad bad bad.
Today shockey, tmr you.
No gg, No skill.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 22 2015 14:30 GMT
#939
I see no problem with truffle's post other than the defeatist attitude. It felt forced to me.
I just don't understand what's the thing about Linux Mafia... I haven't read it and I don't feel like doing it, sorry 😁
I'm adorable.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 14:47 GMT
#940
I assume he means its the same damdred in linux and here.

Can you give me a quick rundown of scum damdred ignoring postcount?
No gg, No skill.
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