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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 22 2015 18:11 GMT
#961
Vote Count:



ShoCkeyy(4) - Oatsmaster, Obiwanshinobi, glowingbear, Qwerty
Zealos(2) - Onegu, Damdred
Damdred(1) - Stutters695

until lynch!

ShoCkeyy is set to be lynched!
Zerg for Life
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2015 18:17 GMT
#962
Well I would rather lynch Zeal over Shock since Damdred clearly isn't happening.
##unvote
##vote Zealos
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 22 2015 18:19 GMT
#963
So you want to lynch the semi active player over the lurker?
Try TL Mafia!!!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 22 2015 18:23 GMT
#964
Here's the deal.

Ssk yourself this question obi. Was zealos play d1 good enough to not get lynched? Scib thought he was scum, I think he's scum palmar did as well.

You might not trust me fully but this is a good lynch today.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 22 2015 18:34 GMT
#965
On May 23 2015 03:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Well I would rather lynch Zeal over Shock since Damdred clearly isn't happening.
##unvote
##vote Zealos


Does it not bother you that Damdred, your prime scumread, is voting Zealos?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 22 2015 18:34 GMT
#966
On May 23 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Here's the deal.

Ssk yourself this question obi. Was zealos play d1 good enough to not get lynched? Scib thought he was scum, I think he's scum palmar did as well.

You might not trust me fully but this is a good lynch today.


Honestly I thought this was just going to be resolved on its own.

Now I actually have to plan my lynches out.

Bleh.
Retired.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 22 2015 18:40 GMT
#967
Just sheep me obi if you think I'm town
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 22 2015 18:43 GMT
#968
So has anyone ever see stutters this lazy? Like he did nothing day one. He defends his meta saying he is less active as town?

Guess I have to check database
Try TL Mafia!!!
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2015 18:44 GMT
#969
On May 23 2015 03:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 03:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Well I would rather lynch Zeal over Shock since Damdred clearly isn't happening.
##unvote
##vote Zealos


Does it not bother you that Damdred, your prime scumread, is voting Zealos?


Slightly, however I can easily see Damdred bussing him. Damdred's scum read on him has been very non-committal but clearly suspects him. If I had been around yesterday to push, I would not be in favor of lynching him over Damdred or Trefel, however this close to lynch time that's unattainable and individually I have him as scummier than Shock.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 22 2015 18:45 GMT
#970
LOL if you guys think this is how I bus you should be ashamed of yourselves especially gb
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 22 2015 18:46 GMT
#971
On May 23 2015 03:43 Onegu wrote:
So has anyone ever see stutters this lazy? Like he did nothing day one. He defends his meta saying he is less active as town?

Guess I have to check database

I could list ten more town tells that I haven't mentioned. I'm not getting lynched today so I'm not worried about defending myself. My point was LS accurately noted that in No Ippo yet Damdred doesn't address any of that when using meta to push me. Just the one point that hit his obviously false narrative.
Qwerty!
Profile Joined April 2015
106 Posts
May 22 2015 18:47 GMT
#972
I read through Zealous's filter.

I'd rather lynch ShoCkeyy.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 22 2015 18:47 GMT
#973
Case on Zealos

Why does Zealos slip by in the darkness around? Let's start with one of his beginning post, he starts by targeting Damdred, very early in the game along with GB, he wrote some generic info about damdreds games. Didn't make anything out of it

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 18 2015 07:33 Zealos wrote:
Contrasting Damdred's opening posts with the Assassination Mafia:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:02 Damdred wrote:
Well then get started!


Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:08 Damdred wrote:
Explain how its a mafia-ish opening instead of just putting some ill conceived notion in the thread at the very start.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:20 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure what exactly is mafia-ish about commenting on someone else opening, rather than coming into the thread and not say anything. Unless you are saying that i'm not actually commenting, or commenting and not giving him anything to work for?

Now if you agree with either of these shame shame on you.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 05:31 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure what I should be getting by his opening. Nor do I understand why you are queing on mine but its what it is I suppose



Compared to Assassination:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Well I rolled town.

I think Rs is likely town

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On May 10 2015 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:
O, hai!

I'm John Travolta!

Yamato and HTS are Mafia.


This is almost as bad a read as me saying GB is town just saying.

However at this point I have a couple of preliminary town reads I believe just by tone and posting style and somewhat on content.

Rsoultin seems to be genuinely using the posts to press good ideas while pressing issues that are important in the thread.

HTS and Trfel both seem to have a good tone about them and it seems it is easy to follow what they mean while it somewhat mirrors what RS says I think it is a good sign of things to come and both are good leans.

KSC... is a bit harder for me to get a handle on at this point, I have a slight town lean on him. His tone and general demeanor remind me of Void Mafia at this point. However his style is also reminiscent of mini mafia to an extent, but the content is different. I'm pretty ok with him at this point.

LS is interesting, he always wastes posts but we'll see what his other posts do.


Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 11:27 Damdred wrote:
On May 10 2015 11:23 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 10 2015 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On May 10 2015 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:
O, hai!

I'm John Travolta!

Yamato and HTS are Mafia.


This is almost as bad a read as me saying GB is town just saying.

However at this point I have a couple of preliminary town reads I believe just by tone and posting style and somewhat on content.

Rsoultin seems to be genuinely using the posts to press good ideas while pressing issues that are important in the thread.

HTS and Trfel both seem to have a good tone about them and it seems it is easy to follow what they mean while it somewhat mirrors what RS says I think it is a good sign of things to come and both are good leans.

KSC... is a bit harder for me to get a handle on at this point, I have a slight town lean on him. His tone and general demeanor remind me of Void Mafia at this point. However his style is also reminiscent of mini mafia to an extent, but the content is different. I'm pretty ok with him at this point.

LS is interesting, he always wastes posts but we'll see what his other posts do.



I'm a bit confused damdred

Rs is pressing good ideas and important issues , but the only "good" idea she has really pushed is that HTS has a forced tone and is mafia.



The most impressive part is that you ignored the trutly contradicting things I put into the post but key'd in on something that I actually believe.

(3)

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 11:29 Damdred wrote:
On May 10 2015 11:27 Damdred wrote:
On May 10 2015 11:23 KelsierSC wrote:
On May 10 2015 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On May 10 2015 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:
O, hai!

I'm John Travolta!

Yamato and HTS are Mafia.


This is almost as bad a read as me saying GB is town just saying.

However at this point I have a couple of preliminary town reads I believe just by tone and posting style and somewhat on content.

Rsoultin seems to be genuinely using the posts to press good ideas while pressing issues that are important in the thread.

HTS and Trfel both seem to have a good tone about them and it seems it is easy to follow what they mean while it somewhat mirrors what RS says I think it is a good sign of things to come and both are good leans.

KSC... is a bit harder for me to get a handle on at this point, I have a slight town lean on him. His tone and general demeanor remind me of Void Mafia at this point. However his style is also reminiscent of mini mafia to an extent, but the content is different. I'm pretty ok with him at this point.

LS is interesting, he always wastes posts but we'll see what his other posts do.



I'm a bit confused damdred

Rs is pressing good ideas and important issues , but the only "good" idea she has really pushed is that HTS has a forced tone and is mafia.



The most impressive part is that you ignored the trutly contradicting things I put into the post but key'd in on something that I actually believe.

(3)


To expand a good bit,

RS posts are decently good and even though the idea of HTS being mafia running in multiple posts, most of the posts however are well thought out and even the post where RS was being a pita towards the thread up above it still conveyed good ideas in a good manner.

However there is something really off in my reads.

(4)


Although there was a post limit on Assassination, it really seems like he was being much more proactive in Assassination, whereas in this game he is on the defensive.
I'd lean slighty mafia but I'm not convinced honestly.



He keeps targeting Damdred and writes this:
On May 18 2015 07:47 Zealos wrote:
I'm not actually voting btw


But comes back to end up voting on Palmar because his post count was bad:

On May 18 2015 15:42 Zealos wrote:
##vote Palmar


On May 18 2015 15:40 Zealos wrote:
I really don't have much time this morning, and I'll post more when I get back from work in 8 or so hours. BUT, can we take a moment to discuss how dodgy Palmar has been so far??
He literally just jumps in, stirs up some random direction of conversation (Normally saying something that someone else has suggested) then just leaving the thread again??
He's got 6 posts, yet has "confirmed" 2/3 of the mafia team? wat?
I want to cross check this against another game, but until I have some time to do it, he's my strongest scumread.


On May 19 2015 00:00 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 15:52 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 15:41 Zealos wrote:
Hasn't offered any reasoning, or anything of use to the thread, AND miss spelt my name

I agree with your characterization of Palmar's play thus far. I think most of the thread would agree that Palmar's early play leaves a lot to be desired.

If you have time, could you give your opinion of ObiWanShinobi? Similar to Palmar, he has popped in and out of the thread, made some random posts, and not offered any reasoning or anything of use to the thread. Would you also consider voting him, or is there a difference between him and Palmar that makes Palmar more suspicious in your eyes?

RE: ObiWanShinobi
I think it's pretty useless to make much of a read on him yet. I want him to post more, but during the first day it's hard to say whether inactivity is disinterest in day 1 or whether its something more scummy.

Comparing him to Palmar, I feel like Palmar is more destructive than Obi.


Early push to remove what he knew could of been town and can try to ruin his win as mafia. But he saw palmar was making a push to lynch vivax who he also knew was town. He was on of the first to jump on the bandwagon due to him and Obi being aligned.

On May 20 2015 00:30 Vivax wrote:
Going to a friend so I'll keep being lazy and just sheep scib's big case, plus I had a feeling Obi was scum earlier. So seems like a win-win.

##Vote Obi

Will probably be back around 8-9 PM my time.


With Vivax about to be out of the picture, obi and zealous had a chance to jump on the Vivax bandwagon and kill off a town lynch.

On May 18 2015 17:33 Palmar wrote:
Here's a listpost. The following people are on my shitlist.

Onegu
GlowingBear
Zealos

shitlist has nothing to do with being mafia, although of course it's possible to both be shitter and mafia. But these people should be treated as incapable of being useful regardless of their alignment.

Thank you!


Palmar read it early on Zealos, so he killed him off at night after the vivax lynch.

He also killed Sci:

On May 18 2015 07:40 sciberbia wrote:
##vote Zealos

Best read for mafia so far. He does a ton of filter-diving on Damdred to make it look like he's hardcore contributing, but he's super wishy-washy in his conclusions. Just look at the amount of hedging his bets here:

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:33 Zealos wrote:
Although there was a post limit on Assassination...

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:33 Zealos wrote:
I'd lean slighty mafia but I'm not convinced honestly.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote:
Having said that, he has been forced on the defensive.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:34 Zealos wrote:
One of Damdred and Palmar are mafia I think though


Like why even post all your research if you are this unsure in your conclusions? Looks like a good candidate for someone who is trying to look like they are contributing but isn't.



Two people that targeted him in Day one. Let's heed their words and go after Zealos.
Life?
Qwerty!
Profile Joined April 2015
106 Posts
May 22 2015 18:50 GMT
#974
And now I'm more comfortable with my vote than I was before.

ShoCkeyy, what do you think about Onegu?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 22 2015 18:52 GMT
#975
Onegu is Vigi? What do you want?
Life?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 22 2015 18:52 GMT
#976
That was a good post by shockey. Don't lynch him
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 22 2015 18:53 GMT
#977
The NK part is Wifom but other other part is good. Rather lynch the lurker
Try TL Mafia!!!
Qwerty!
Profile Joined April 2015
106 Posts
May 22 2015 18:56 GMT
#978
On May 23 2015 03:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Onegu is Vigi? What do you want?
I was wondering how you said that scum killed scriberbia, when Onegu is the claimed vigilante who claimed the shot, and you didn't mention scumreading Onegu.

Then I realized that this isn't really alignment indicative, as mafia you would know how many KP you have, and I wouldn't expect scum to fake like this often.

##unvote
##vote Sealoz
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 22 2015 18:56 GMT
#979
Pretty sure scum team is like zealos, qwerty and oats atm.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 22 2015 18:56 GMT
#980
Shockey is still completely missing the point of Palmar's shitlist.
Retired.
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