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On May 25 2015 07:00 boxerfred wrote:
You [i]say that you only have such choices. There wasn't really someone else on the edge of voting on you so it was not "me or the afk guy". So I read your vote as a "okay safe call".
You could've done quite much, or even nothing. Don't ask me on that, I don't know your alignment or your role, so I think you're doing what's best for your role. [/s]
Yep, vote was the safe call. Tried to explain my reasons for that.
[QUOTE]On May 25 2015 07:00 boxerfred wrote:
Testing everyone and blaming everyone and following different guys in their argumentation seems SK like to me. Or, tryhard townie. However, I'm moving away from the "you're scum" view. I don't think you're scum.
Well, fair enough.
More interested in dealing with 27ninjabunnies and sicklucker.
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EBWOP:
dat formating fail.
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Reread breschke's and Rels's cases on sicklucker and looked at sicklucker's responses. Which are crap and as I mentioned here:
On May 25 2015 06:51 disformation wrote:
The other two "late" votes where sicklucker and batsnacks. batsnacks had him scummed earlier. I can see sicklucker voting for him to look more townie. Didn't he even argument how townie he is for lynching scott, at the beginning of N1?
Will look into that.
Yes he did.
On May 24 2015 18:02 sicklucker wrote:
anyway I just lynched mafia what did you do
I also want to throw this:
On May 23 2015 06:01 sicklucker wrote:
vote count? anyone voting disinfo? I might
disinfo can you list your read. I have no idea what your reads are and you posted alot not a good sign
Riiiiight back at him. 
##Vote: sicklucker
Still not liking 27ninjabunnies at all. Depending on how/if at all she answers my questions, I can see myself making another case.
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Hehe.
I just did something funny. Was looking at 27ninjabunnies filter. Do you know her last post on SL?
On May 24 2015 00:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 13:25 sicklucker wrote:Lets look at bats read progresion on me On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.
Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.
##vote: sicklucker 0 scum read on me 100% presure voteOn May 23 2015 02:56 batsnacks wrote:
SL is null still. I never really had a reason to scum read him I sort of just voted him to vote someone.
I'm looking at sulfur and Scott until they post something that sticks in my memory. When I find time I need to read bunnies filter and sort out some of the stuff I saw when I was skimming. I'm off work in like 3 hours I can only really briefly respond/snark at stuff until then. Still no read on me admits his vote on me means nothingOn May 23 2015 12:20 batsnacks wrote:
Let's lynch SL seriously. Town SL takes being scum read way more personally than he has this game. Scott is a fine vote too and so is BM at this point but I'm really feeling SL if he thinks he can ignore pressure and do nothing. Has not mentioned me since all of a sudden he drops this post which conveniently is similar to thread setimentYa ok bats ok. I think hes a mafia with a made up read here following a few donkeys who cant read my obv town play I actually like this post on BS that SL has made. @BS do you have a flow of thoughts besides this shit that lead you to SL being scum?
"Shit"? Pretty harsh words for a scum read on sicklucker. Who was before this post a scum read for 27ninjabunnies. One she didn't bother to explain, although I kept asking her about it.
Likewise sicklucker reads her scum in the beginning of the game and suddenly goes:
On May 24 2015 05:57 sicklucker wrote:
ya shes probably town. I liked a few of her reads. I was a lil paranoid of her from some ogi reasons
And a lot of their early "disagreement" was build around that super early "troll vote" bunnies did on sicklucker. That could have been manufactured in mafia qt, right?
Am I starting to see things? Or am I onto something? Opinions on that?
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On May 25 2015 08:04 sicklucker wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 24 2015 23:06 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 20:38 plotspot wrote:
hi guys, I've reached p23. p24 was where I first published my statistics. EoD was is p30, so I think I will take this too before I post a summary, as well as my reads on the remaining players for D1. Great, looking forward to that. Looking at the votes on scott: rels: pressures all the people with low/zero posts. did put a pressure vote on scott for basically only having 1-2 meh posts. scott tries to get rels off him, by saying he likes rels a lot. rels didn't seem impressed. scott never returns, so rels just keeps his vote on him. breskhe: also voting for doing jack. but also backs it up with a meta read. Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 12:21 Breshke wrote:
##Vote scott31337
I agree scott needs to lift his game. So does Bill murray to a degree both these people feel like coinflips at the moment. Like especially scott from just from looking at the three other games he has played seemed to have achieved the longest filter in his 1 town game even though he was only alive for one day compared to his scum games where he survived to D3 yet had a smaller filter. Oh and he also calls out scott earlier: Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 17:09 Breshke wrote:I also kind of don't like this On May 22 2015 12:00 scott31337 wrote:On May 22 2015 11:49 plotspot wrote:
oh lawl game has started, but I have to go to sleep now, see you tomorrow
*celebrate good times come on* What kind of post is this? You weren't even able to post any original thoughts before you left? When scott leaves right after it after having only one other post. Feels scummy Liking breshke a lot looking at this. sicklucker: votes batsnacks, quickly drops that vote. Either a joke vote, or realizing that this wagon won't go anywhere? Looks at the two available wagons, realizes that scott looks worse than me, throws his vote on him. Says N1 that he would have tried to get me lynched instead of scott, if he had been around EoD1. Not sure what to make of him atm. =/ batsnacks: had an earlier vote on scott, after looking at bunnies, sulf and scott. decided to vote scott out of that bunch. Then switches to sicklucker with that one super irritating post. TBH I was thinking batsnacks and sicklucker were just trolling each other there. But sicklucker is still going on about that? Well, batsnacks drops this vote on sicklucker super fast and votes scott with: Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 20:14 batsnacks wrote:
In all seriousness I can't vote SL or anyone for that matter over scott if he's not going to post before deadline. Even what he has is scummy. Since this aligns with his previous vote/read and the sicklucker vote was just a troll, I think this looks legit. boxerfred: annouces that he will vote for an inactive person with: Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 17:03 boxerfred wrote:
I think I'll vote for whoever is really inactive. That's like the safest way to not lose someone who's really valuable. goes ahead and votes scott: Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 21:41 boxerfred wrote:
Okay. So ##vote scott31337 it is. I'll try to chime in before EOD to check if he posted something, however, I won't have the time to post for the next 6-8 hours. gonna be close. Expresses some doubts here: Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:47 boxerfred wrote:
wow back just in time. so we still coinflip on scott - i don't like this since it's really ruining the game. Is that where modkills apply? So... he goes from "I'll vote for whoever is really inactiv", which can imply "regardless of alignment" to "oh wow I really don't like to coinflip on the most inactive person ever." Not really liking this. boxerfred, I would love to explain your train of thought on this. If someone arrives at other conclusions from the votes, I would be down to talk about that. Will do some chores now so:  me unvoting bats is non alignment related. I relized he was not gonna get any votes and my vote was wasted. so i unvote their as town or mafia because its a wasted vote. I said I was considering voting you did I ever tho? no because before I voted you I read your filter and decided you were not a great vote and then I lynched scum.
Yes that part is pretty clear to me. Was wondering about:
On May 24 2015 19:15 sicklucker wrote:
The standard play is not to lynch people who have not voted because their getting mod killed anyway. We got lucky I was bizzy at deadline and didnt get the lynch on disinfo because that would have been the smarter play not knowing scot was mafia
Nobody knew that scott would't try to get a last minute vote off.
On May 25 2015 08:07 sicklucker wrote:
If im mafia whos my partner here? everyones voted me at some point of the game now.
Me and bunnies would not be that obv.
I sapose I could be with bm? why dont you just vote him first
Possible that I was trying to hard to find a connection between my two top scum reads.
Rels and Breshke have made pretty compelling cases on you. Your answers so far weren't really satisfying. Do you want to try again?
+ Show Spoiler +On May 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:Hello, this is a message for the potentiel vig in this game. I want you to consider a sicklucker shot tonight. Please read this post and think about it. First please read Breshke post here or in spoiler: + Show Spoiler +On May 24 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum
probably disinfo Has a shitty push on disinfo doesn't explain anything or put any effort into getting him lynched just faking suspicion to seem town. Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 20:16 sicklucker wrote:
##unvote ##vote scott
Ya whatever. On a quick reread disinfo filter is not really bad. No way we cant kill scott here. I think a policy lynch is fine I have no high percentage flips in my mind Backs of his shitty read again with no reasoning when wagon seems to be going against his partner. Starts bussing to get towncred. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin Tries to push rels AGAIN with no reasoning. Does not put any effort into getting rels lynched instead of scott even though scott is just a policy lynch for him and rels he genuinely thinks is scum. SL is not trying to work out the game he mainly just posts to post. Probably started bussing his partner then tried to see if he could start a different wagon. When noone started biting he just drops it. We are lynching SL tomorrow. If that doesn't convince you I will take what I said about him here and add to it. First reasonIn a few of his posts he either says he's town or gives argument to why someone should read him town. Apparently SL is a good player, so that could be straight up subtile manipulation. It is the tactics from commercials; one can only see something so many times before one starts thinking it's true, not knowing where the thought came by. I'm talking about these posts: + Show Spoiler +On May 22 2015 07:22 sicklucker wrote:
disinfo you gonna correctly read me town again? On May 22 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote:
It also says the all Qts were active in the like initial start of game post.
I'm not going to read you for a dumbbell SL I'm going to read you on giving nonsensical town reads and not thinking critically about the game well you should because thats how you read me town On May 22 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 09:30 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 09:22 sicklucker wrote:On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.
Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.
##vote: sicklucker I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on. its really nothing special. And im already playing and trying so its pretty pointless Trying? Saying your town for dumbtelling when its completly within your ability to do it as scum and your only read being that im scum for not calling you town for said dumbtell. I don't call that trying. I get it is early but do you have opinions on anyone? What do you think of disinfo now that the QT thing has been corrected? town points for not realizing their was a scum qt up for 24 hours like any town should On May 22 2015 11:22 sicklucker wrote:
oh I totally took that post out of context hes asking me a qeustion pretty poor writinng . Oh well easy to read me town off that On May 22 2015 11:37 sicklucker wrote:
im so town it hurts On May 24 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few On May 24 2015 15:42 sicklucker wrote:
infact I was the hammer of the mafia and batsnackss followed me. I the town hero come at me Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 08:33 Tictock wrote:
@Breshke
Humm you have a point. He did post an handful of stuff pretty fast and then bounce. Seems to be have just made a weak townread and then the weak towny post about not confusing us newbies.
Last game when he was town he never gave a shit about confusing us newbies. Now he's making this post defending newbies and town reading Dis, one of the newbies who was also in the last game with us. This does seem like he's scum motivated. Straigth up this. I read student IX game, and SL was town and didn't give a shit about newbies. Third reasonHe says that BM is a lynch bait, but says this: Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 13:27 sicklucker wrote:
bill murray is lynch bait.
definition - a guy who always looks scummy and gets lynched
not saying dont lynch him but keep that in mind That could be read as "lynch him if you want, when he flips green i'm going to be right". Seems to me like he almost want BM to be lynched without him on the train. Forth reasonUntil late in the last day he didn't vote scott and tried to push other people with no arguments. Really no arguments, just "I'm suspicious of XXX". Even after he voted scott, he still tried to push subtily other people without voting for them. I will list the posts where he does that. I will not post what he said on batsnacks because he actually made a case on him for once. + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2015 11:50 sicklucker wrote:
i think disinfo could be scum On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum
probably disinfo On May 23 2015 13:16 sicklucker wrote:
bats disinfo or bunnies + one of bm or the new guys I havent bother to read at all outside of sulp
Can we just vote bats your townread on him makes no sense breske On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin Fifth reasonLying. On May 24 2015 15:36 sicklucker wrote:
rels was my lynch bro No I wasn't. Batsnacks then scott was your lynch. Aaaaaand that's it. sicklucker don't add anything useful, except one post: the one on batsnacks which amazingly I liked. Plus, apparently he plays like that every game, so no one can read him for sure. He really put chaos in the thread with how he posted: for example his defense post just above mine is only a gif. What do you do with people hard to read, scummy, and that does things that cause chaos ? That's right. You vigi'd them. Even if he turns out to be town, that will be less confusion on the thread. So vig, if you even exist in this setup and have not made your mind about shooting, shoot SL. On May 24 2015 17:58 Rels wrote:Two others point on SL: Sixth reasonShow nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:43 sicklucker wrote:
im vulnerable tictock have any questions for me? Then TT post some questions, and SL doesn't answer. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:45 Tictock wrote:
Already asked dude, though I'd also like to know your thoughts on 27nb and BM.
Off to play games, bbl. Seventh reasonShow nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:34 sicklucker wrote:On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote:On May 24 2015 08:03 disformation wrote:
Well. 1/3 mafia down. Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ? I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ? yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:47 Breshke wrote:On May 24 2015 15:34 sicklucker wrote:On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote:On May 24 2015 08:03 disformation wrote:
Well. 1/3 mafia down. Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ? I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ? yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafiaYou were in this game SL and i kno you remember it because its one of the ones you love to mention so much because its the first one i got vig shot in. It had 3 mafia and an SK in a 13 player setup.
Getting super tired. Not sure how long I'll be available.
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On May 25 2015 08:25 sicklucker wrote:
ok wow thats a big post. So i cant be scum with bm now. Whos my partner?
Not liking these "who is my partner" posts. This just means you have planned ahead and had your partner bus you for a bit at some point... which would be good mafia play. *shrug*
We can easily look for associations after you flip red. 
But damn, this is such a mess. Super tired. Head starts to spin. I will look at this mess after sleeping.
Sidenote: Haven't seen much of a lot of people this N1. Hope they will be more active D2.
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On May 25 2015 09:32 sicklucker wrote:
6) disformation- He was the counter wagon to a mafia so hes safe for today. I really dont read him well I would have to reread his last game. Not voting today
So at least this is mutual.
For me it feels like you get on your PC and throw a coin to decide if you want to look scummy or towny that day. xD
On May 25 2015 14:14 Sulfurus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 19:57 disformation wrote:Sulfurus: 1) On May 24 2015 06:04 Sulfurus wrote:For me the the person with the most useful reads and my top town is Barakos; he was the one who helped me townread Breshke and scumread Disformation with this post, he has shown a healthy suspicion of NinjaBunnies, and he influenced me to un-vote BM, along with SL, with his coinflip argument (for the record I still think SL is town).] In the bolded post Barakos talks about sicklucker not me. Whoops I believe that should be a link to post 264
Okay. That was a while ago, do still think this applies?
On May 25 2015 14:14 Sulfurus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +2) Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:04 Sulfurus wrote:
@Breshke I'll reread one more time and then I'll answer. I'd like him to follow up on this. 3) He also totally ignored my case/push on him. Maybe because I was the only one seeing something in this? Don't get me wrong, he has a bunch of stuff I like. But I'd def. like to see a more of this guy, before I can give him a solid town read. IIRC your 'case' against me is that I called Bill Murray 'mislynch bait' which came off as TMI to you. TBH I don't actually know if Bill is town or not but I thought that term sounded better then 'lynch bait' since bait is usually a kind of trap you don't want to get caught in (think fishing) but we want to lynch mafia not avoid it (hopefully that makes sense.
Fair enough. Fun fact: In my first game here (NSM IX) I did a very similar thing and called player a) misslynch, because I suspected player b) of being mafia for pushing player a). A vet called me out for calling player a) a misslynch and I had to explain that. So I just wanted to throw that at you and look at your reaction.
Thanks for answering.
On May 25 2015 14:14 Sulfurus wrote:As for Sicklucker I feel he has been so busy defending himself that he hasn't been able to give any useful reads and Rels gave a very good accusation of him here so I don't think I will bother defending and I may even vote on him if it comes down to it. @Bill Murray I don't quite understand why you rescinded your vote off of SL. Can you please explain?
I am not sure I understand this.
Sicklucker is under too much pressure to do good town work? would't that that he is town and we should give him a chance?
Why would you defend him? Why are you not voting him? Yesterday you were like "kill him 100%".
On May 24 2015 14:46 Sulfurus wrote:
I predict that if cop receives a town check on SL people will accuse him of being GF/SK and lynch him anyway, so cop should not check him.
A vigi shot on him is fine since the only way town doesn't kill him is if he claims a role.
Also... do you dislike the idea of him being cop checked, because you know he is town?
I also have no idea what your current reads are like...
Me no likes.
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On May 25 2015 14:26 Tictock wrote:Just in case that's STILL not enough for you. His posts so far D2 are just filled with lies and misinformation. This post was directed at Dis ( proof) Show nested quote +On May 25 2015 08:04 sicklucker wrote:
I said I was considering voting you did I ever tho? no because before I voted you I read your filter and decided you were not a great vote and then I lynched scum.
Oh really? Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum
probably disinfo This was back when SL thought bolding peoples names was voting for them. Bre had to remind him this is not 2+2.
This part is not entirely true. His read progression on me is:
1) cheap town read.
2) scum after he asks for my reads
3) does his fail vote on me you quoted
4) unvotes / unscums me after skimming my filter and votes scott
So that looks legit. The problem I have is:
On May 24 2015 19:15 sicklucker wrote:
The standard play is not to lynch people who have not voted because their getting mod killed anyway. We got lucky I was bizzy at deadline and didnt get the lynch on disinfo because that would have been the smarter play not knowing scot was mafia
So he would have tried to lynch me (who he previously unscumed)? Though I could have still been null to him or something. Apparently he has some problems figuring me out, which might be the reason for that...
I am going to try and figure out all read progressions by sicklucker now... which might take a bit. His filter is really long.
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On May 25 2015 18:00 Tictock wrote:
@Bre
She's fallen off my radar since EoD.
Why aren't you back on this scott wagon?
"sry I am to busy hardcore tunneling sicklucker". Not sure if that is good for town.
On May 25 2015 16:44 sicklucker wrote:
ya well its hard to find scum when no one but the obv towns spam up the thread.
I probably have the biggest filter too
You. Have. No. Idea.
On May 25 2015 17:57 sicklucker wrote:
I gave up on convincing him along time ago
Scott taught me that giving up can be a sign for both mafia and town. Has anyone who played enough games with sicklucker to tell if that is more of a mafia or town sign for him?
I looked at all of sicklucker's read progressions. And I have to say that they look pretty consistent. He does not always have great reasons (like about rels), but it lines up.
Only strange thing:
Calls breshke town for attacking him early: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=11#207
Next mention of Breshke is a weird scum lean here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=43#847
If I missed something please feel free to correct me, his filter is quite long after all.
But there was a lot of stuff in between, so I can see why the opinion would change... still: sicklucker want to explain why you read Breshke as scum now?
Also liked the points sicklucker found on bunnies.
On May 25 2015 07:30 disformation wrote:
Still not liking 27ninjabunnies at all. Depending on how/if at all she answers my questions, I can see myself making another case.
Maybe I'll be ordering 27 bunnies for lunch. But I also want to look at the plotspot vs ticktoc wallbattle going on.. so much to do today. xD
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On May 25 2015 21:49 Breshke wrote:
Opinions on bunnies/my mini case/anyone else you find interesting?
TBH, I have no idea why she voted for me at the end of D1. I think I asked her about that once or twice, but she didn't bother to explain. She also never explained her read(s) on sicklucker although I asked her for that all game long.
Her last post was:
On May 25 2015 05:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I did ask, and never received an answer.
Isnt there a possibility as EOD got closer, mafia voted in their partner to look townie as they new he would be killed?
Curious
Which can be another weak attempt to subtly push in my direction since I was the last one to vote for scott. Already discussed that with BF.
I wrote an answer to her here:
On May 25 2015 06:51 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2015 05:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I did ask, and never received an answer.
Isnt there a possibility as EOD got closer, mafia voted in their partner to look townie as they new he would be killed?
Curious Where did you ask this? Only similar question I found in your filter is: Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 24 2015 06:55 Tictock wrote:Well.. there's only one thing to do at a time like this... Do you think mafia are on scott? And yes of course there is a possibility for that. I am currently trying to explain my thought to boxerfred. The other two "late" votes where sicklucker and batsnacks. batsnacks had him scummed earlier. I can see sicklucker voting for him to look more townie. Didn't he even argument how townie he is for lynching scott, at the beginning of N1? Will look into that. But I also want a lot of answers from you. Taking a short break. Talking to boxerfred is exhausting.
An again got no answer to that... no idea what her current reads are, as she didn't do anything N1 or D2 so far...
The more I think about it...
##unvote
##vote: 27ninjabunnies
Will not drop this unless I get some really amazing answers.
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On May 26 2015 01:26 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Man, I come back from my campin trip and see this voting nonsense on me.
Someone want to explain why while I reread?
Hi.
Points by breshke:
On May 25 2015 17:17 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 08:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 23 2015 06:28 disformation wrote:Ugh. Reread boxerfred. Should move to scum lean. I see nothing that furthers town agenda in his filter. Only reacts when poked. Posting pattern is pretty lurky. Evades most of the questions anyway. No clue who he would vote for...  No idea what batsnacks sees in him. Which also makes me wonder a bit about batsnacks, who I otherwise have as a town lean. I wish I could see but I feel so blind... Why the distance from BF now, it seems? Like, when I ping you out for a connection you seem now to be so upset. The Ugh. Reread.... Basically when he is being pinged out for being scum. This is all just scummy from you Main dish huh? I've been told I'm pretty delectable As for the SL read, give me a few hours. Just got off of work, and been working for 8 of those hours between then, I forgot what I was even going to say on SL. Rereading a bit Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 08:25 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh, and I think the above post is a great basis for
##Vote:Disformation Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 08:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 23 2015 08:42 disformation wrote:On May 23 2015 08:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 23 2015 08:32 disformation wrote:OMGUS much? And how do you ping me out, when I am the most active person in the thread? I don't really understand. The Ugh thing was more of the lines of "uh right, reread the thing and didn't like it". TBH boxerfred is still a wonky read for me. *shrugs* incidentally... did I hit a nerve with the connection between Sulfurus and you? Sidenote: I can see a lot of people voting for me. Not sure why though. xD Feel like I had to do a lot of stuff, since acitivity was a bit disappointing to me and I won't be around much tomorrow. I'll say this to anyone who is reading the game. Cause i actually just told something this not to long ago. Most active =/= town Actually, it is easy for scum to be highly active in a game and push lynches in the direction which they wish to go. Though there are some mafia who tend to like to lurk and not be in the spotlight, you could very well be the former. OMGUS? Did you call me mafia? I can't remember? What connection between sulfurus and me? I called sulfurus town. Not much to it. I still need to read Sulfurus' recent posts to get a feel for if still town or not. But from early posts, yes. sulfurus seemed pretty town. Hmm. Okay. It seems I don't understand your post. Let us try this again: On May 23 2015 08:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 23 2015 06:28 disformation wrote:Ugh. Reread boxerfred. Should move to scum lean. I see nothing that furthers town agenda in his filter. Only reacts when poked. Posting pattern is pretty lurky. Evades most of the questions anyway. No clue who he would vote for... No idea what batsnacks sees in him. Which also makes me wonder a bit about batsnacks, who I otherwise have as a town lean. I wish I could see but I feel so blind... Why the distance from BF now, it seems? Like, when I ping you out for a connection you seem now to be so upset. The Ugh. Reread.... Basically when he is being pinged out for being scum. This is all just scummy from you Main dish huh? I've been told I'm pretty delectable As for the SL read, give me a few hours. Just got off of work, and been working for 8 of those hours between then, I forgot what I was even going to say on SL. Rereading a bit What do you mean with pinging me out for a connection? I've read this as: "you were kinda waffling about/hiding and I asked you for a opinion on x". And again: I seemed upset because I didn't liked what I have found... Can you maybe rephrase your question or accusation? The connection between you and BF. So BF vote don BM right, but you come out with your case on me, and he unnvotes with just saying that he likes you post, but will reread late, right? With BF being a newbie, this just seems like, hey my mafia partner made a case, maybe I should follow it- type of thing to me. That is the connection I see. Bunnies scums disfo for a connection with BF and then also seemingly trying to distance himself from him. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 00:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 23 2015 11:24 batsnacks wrote:
I really hate the activity based reads but meh plot is never the lynch on effort alone. I also hate this disformation wagon. Scotts is the better place for any vote... but... again whatev because disformation doesn't need me to defend him. I agree here. Most of plots reads were based on activity. Activity levels do not necessarily indicate scum or town. Content does. newbies remember that! On May 23 2015 13:25 sicklucker wrote:Lets look at bats read progresion on me On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.
Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.
##vote: sicklucker 0 scum read on me 100% presure voteOn May 23 2015 02:56 batsnacks wrote:
SL is null still. I never really had a reason to scum read him I sort of just voted him to vote someone.
I'm looking at sulfur and Scott until they post something that sticks in my memory. When I find time I need to read bunnies filter and sort out some of the stuff I saw when I was skimming. I'm off work in like 3 hours I can only really briefly respond/snark at stuff until then. Still no read on me admits his vote on me means nothingOn May 23 2015 12:20 batsnacks wrote:
Let's lynch SL seriously. Town SL takes being scum read way more personally than he has this game. Scott is a fine vote too and so is BM at this point but I'm really feeling SL if he thinks he can ignore pressure and do nothing. Has not mentioned me since all of a sudden he drops this post which conveniently is similar to thread setimentYa ok bats ok. I think hes a mafia with a made up read here following a few donkeys who cant read my obv town play I actually like this post on BS that SL has made. @BS do you have a flow of thoughts besides this shit that lead you to SL being scum? Also, Why Sulf? I still think sulf is town. On May 23 2015 17:14 boxerfred wrote:On May 23 2015 04:58 disformation wrote:On May 23 2015 04:43 boxerfred wrote:On May 23 2015 03:49 disformation wrote:Also. Since you like my case but see a lot of town in bunnies, where do you place bunnies now? Who would you lynch as of now and why? I place bunnies at someone who's really trying to gather information, can't really tell if that's for scum or for town. Tending towards town somehow though. I want to see a bit more fire! Scum generally doesn't want the town to collect new information... unless said information turns out to be confusing or distracting for town. Do you get that feeling from bunnies? Also nothing on the second part of the question... still no idea who to vote for I guess? Keeping options as open as possible makes you look a bit scummy here. Though granted, I don't look much better right now. xD (for the record: I have a question for bunnies and another one for Sulfurus. Also still haven't seen much from plotspot and scott. Also suspicious of BM. Wouldn't lynch bunnies atm, the others could be candidates for that.) Following your words, you're trying to subtly persuade me that bunnies is not scum: "I place bunnies at someone who's really trying to gather information" vs. "Scum generally doesn't want the town to collect new information". Which would be strange since you made a case about him that made me put myself into the fire by initially unvoting BM and following your case.So either you're just testing the waters, thus confusing many people (pointing out you lean towards scum/sk) or you're dead serious and have a flaw in that post regarding my person. So, no, I don't get that feeling from bunnies. I'm also removing BF from the lynch today because of his recent strings of posts. He is actually offering up some new information, questioning dis- who I think is very scummy- and it might be a ploy to get pressure off of himself, but I like the questioning and what he points out. I think if anything, there is a mafia between Dis and BF but not both. So, I am going to keep my vote on Dis for now. I'm going camping, so I may/may not be around for EOD. I love the pressure on scott! An afk, not doing anything. Keep up the good work. That was seirous btw. I want to see more from scott, and although I think Sulf is town, more from Sulf as well. But, idk about putting votes on someone who isnt here to defend himself. He'll likely get modkilled or replaced by someone more active. I think we need to lynch someone scummy who has actually been playing, because I highly doubt all the mafia are in the nonvoters and afks. Then in this post reads BF as town now but still scums dis for other reasons which were not present before. Her townread of BF did not seem to affect her scumread of dis even though the read was firstly based on an association between the two. SL opinion please
Which is at least partly a update of:
On May 24 2015 11:27 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 11:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Good cop checks/vig shots
Dis
BF
Sulf(rather cop check)
And Breshke (Cop check)
What do we think of BM as a vig shot? BF? Wth you were reading him town EoD. Why are you suddenly suspecting him again? I'm having the hardest time following your thinking the past ~30 hours.
sicklucker also did a bit of stuff:
On May 25 2015 17:24 sicklucker wrote:
wait bunnies was pushing scott but never voted him. strange? she voted disinfo but you quote where she calls disinfo town yet voted him over a confirmed mafia
On May 25 2015 17:26 sicklucker wrote:
so bunnies afks her vote on the second wagon. While still saying scotts a great lynch. Sounds like a likely scott partner tbh
On May 25 2015 17:28 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
We have 15 mins to EOD right? And scott still hasnt shown up. Can anyone give a a semi vote count? shows up just at eod. Thats more likely as mafia then town from my experience
On May 25 2015 17:34 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 06:18 -Celestial- wrote:Ask and ye shall receive:～ Vote Count ～ plotspot (2) : Bill Murray, Tictockdisformation (2) : Barakos, Breshkescott31337 (2) : Rels, batsnacksBill Murray (1) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus, Rels (X), boxerfred (X)27ninjabunnies (0) : Bill Murray (X)boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)sicklucker (0) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X) Not voting (6) : 27ninjabunnies, boxerfred, disformation, plotspot, scott31337, sicklucker Currently, plotspot is set to be lynched!
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If you see any vote out of place, holler at us and we will look into it. this is interesting. This is the vote count right before bunnies voted. at the time she voted it was very close so her being in a mafia team makes so much sense I think im voting her today and never changing. Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 08:25 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh, and I think the above post is a great basis for
##Vote:Disformation So we have bunnies being the third vote on disinfo to scotts two votes. At this point of the game it didnt look like scott was the lynch so if shes partners with him getting the vote on the other guy with votes is your only play. ##vote bunnies
On top of that I am still disliking you for avoiding my questions all game and never delivered the explanation for your sicklucker reads you said you would deliver. So I'd like you to explain/respond to all that stuff.
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And I have zero idea what your current reads are. So I'd like to see some of that, too.
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Going to watch the new mad max movie. Will be around later.
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On May 26 2015 05:32 sicklucker wrote:
3 posts since i went to bed 8 hours ago wth?
Yeah, really not happy with the activity levels this game...
On May 26 2015 05:32 sicklucker wrote:
I dont give a shit about barakos right now I want to not get lynched in 30 mins. whats the vote count
I loled so hard at this.
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On May 26 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote:
Skimming through disinfo's posts, I don't really see a point from which I would start a train on him. I might be wrong with my lean on him. However, I'd like to clearly know what he thinks about pretty much everyone - especially where he would locate scum members and SK. As I can see from celestial's post, he's currently all about jumping trains, matching the pattern of jumping the scott train before: first, he goes for sicklucker, being the 3rd vote at this point (I did not compare timestamps, so it might be the second vote, note that please!). Then, he changes his vote, being the 4th to jump bunnies.
Knew that would happen. Should have trusted my heart and just vote for bunnies straight away D2.
Okay let me walk you through my thinking process:
1) bunnies and sicklucker were my main dishes coming into d2:
On May 25 2015 07:18 disformation wrote:
More interested in dealing with 27ninjabunnies and sicklucker.
2) Reread the cases on sicklucker, decide to vote him of that. mention that I would also gladly vote for bunnies.
On May 25 2015 07:30 disformation wrote:Reread breschke's and Rels's cases on sicklucker and looked at sicklucker's responses. Which are crap and as I mentioned here: Show nested quote +On May 25 2015 06:51 disformation wrote:
The other two "late" votes where sicklucker and batsnacks. batsnacks had him scummed earlier. I can see sicklucker voting for him to look more townie. Didn't he even argument how townie he is for lynching scott, at the beginning of N1?
Will look into that. Yes he did. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 18:02 sicklucker wrote:
anyway I just lynched mafia what did you do I also want to throw this: Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 06:01 sicklucker wrote:
vote count? anyone voting disinfo? I might
disinfo can you list your read. I have no idea what your reads are and you posted alot not a good sign Riiiiight back at him. ##Vote: sickluckerStill not liking 27ninjabunnies at all. Depending on how/if at all she answers my questions, I can see myself making another case.
3) Interactions between BM and sicklucker happen. sicklucker looks towny in that series of interaction to me.
4) I looked at sicklucker's read progression. Looks way more consistent than expected.
As a result I move him down on my lunch list and decide to vote my new #1, who is bunnies.
btw sicklucker's read progression list (feel free to correct me if I missed something, his filter is huge):
+ Show Spoiler +disformation
1) cheap town #132
2) could be scum #478
3) scum #493
4) less scum #533
5) null #847
sulfurus
1) town for random breshke vote #205
2) scum because his post looks coached #207
later explains that he saw a pocket attempt from sulf #216
3) says he liked him, but null now #847
breshke
1) scum for poiting out mafia qt thing #164
2) town for attacking him #207
3) scum lean #847
plotspot
1) null #244
2) super hard town read #467
3) super hard town read #470
4) super hard town read #848
bunnies
1) scum #253
2) scum #493
3) town #561
4) a bunnies lynch wouldnt make me happy but I wouldnt cry about it - null? #787
5) town lean #847
6) acutally more null #858
7) scums bunnies hard now
barakos
1) might be scum will reread #421
2) "green check" #775
3) "green check" #847
batsnacks
1) scum #498
2) suggests scum #787
3) scum #847
4) scum #854
scott
1) wtf scott #530
2) vote #533
rels
1) scum #555
2) more scum because of a feeling #556
ticktoc
1) town #569
2) still town #847
boxerfred
1) suggests scum #787
2) null #847
bm
1) suggests scum #787
2) votes bm #803
3) clears bm as per the scott thing #838
4) town #847
TBH I need to reevaluate a few people, because they start to slip my mind.
Eg can't remember much of barakos and batsnacks.
I am ignoring SK until there is a clear indicator that there is one via night actions. Likewise I don't care much about possible masons until I see hard claims or flips. Although I can see possible pairings for that.
Bill Murray - town lean, but I need to be careful of him trying to pocket me
Sulfurus - scum lean
bunnies - scum
ticktoc - town
plotspot - town
breshke - town lean
boxerfred - you are starting to give me some real town indicators now -> town lean. Though I would like you to poke some other people as well. ;D
sicklucker - kinda null since I can't read him for shit.
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On May 26 2015 09:00 Bill Murray wrote:
pocket you?
On May 25 2015 09:19 Bill Murray wrote:
6) disformation - fairly strong town read 9/10 would fuck
That is quite a strong statement.
On May 26 2015 09:06 Breshke wrote:
This might be really lazy because we have so many lynches left but im fairly sure if we lynch down this list in this order we will most likely win.
Bunnies
Sulf
Barakos
SL
BM
Hm. Where does that kinda strong scum lean on Barakos come from, skimmed your filter and didn't see much on him.
Meanwhile I can only remember him doing a bit of a push on me D1 and giving him a town lean of the interaction we had about it... should probably look at him again, as I mentioned before.
Not sure about BM. Otherwise I agree.
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Currently at work. So semi-available.
@Barakos:
Will, look at that, but it wasn't intended. xD
@batsnacks:
I'm agreeing to your last two posts. But I want to stress that I want 27ninjabunnies to be super compelling at this point.
So... in case we don't lynch sicklucker or 27ninjabunnies, who would your top scum reads be? Briefly skimmed your filter, but I couldn't find that. I gather that you are not a fan of Sulfurus?
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On May 26 2015 20:51 plotspot wrote:
By now they pretty much confirm themselves as town to eachother, iirc? That would support my read about both of them.
I think boxerfred had me as "null, with SK lean" on page 54.
I am leaning town on him. TBH I got a bit annoyed in his exchange with me, because in my mind a bunch of his arguments were ultra weak. *shrugs* At the very least he is looking better than Sulfurus and 27ninjabunnies. Would have to think where he stands in relation to barakos though.
Hm... should also look into Bill Murray, when I am back at home. Noting that here, so I won't forget.
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Well, not really digging that SK decision stuff... yeah, there are some weird scenarios that could have happened N1. And after that scott stuff D1 I can see this game continuing to be weird.
But at this point all the SK discussions are ultra WIFOM. Can we concentrate on finding mafia, please?
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SK discussion stuff*
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