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I have no idea but in what world does town yamato ignore a player who his townread believes is scum and basically said that he thought I had scum characteristics.
It makes even less sense though because im probably the easiest to push on aswell
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yeah, it makes less sense xP like you may have just picked out one of the biggest arguments for a town yamato there, breshke, unless of course you're scum which you won't admit if you are anyway so -shrugs-
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On April 28 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote:
like in what world does scum!yamato not jump at the chance to try to paint one of his alternate wagons scum if they're town lol ><
IN the world where he's scum and isn't playing the game.
METAMETAMETAMETA but I have no choie here there isn't much else to go on.
Town yamato would have played by this point I think.
Palmar and Artanis should also know this for the record.
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Mmmm I don't necessarily think it makes him town. It means he isn't trying to solve the game which is exactly what we seem to be lynching people for currently
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On April 28 2015 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
yeah, it makes less sense xP like you may have just picked out one of the biggest arguments for a town yamato there, breshke, unless of course you're scum which you won't admit if you are anyway so -shrugs-
Maybe if you ask him really nicely. 
Alright so I have a bit more time.
Palmar Damdred go.
What do we think? I don't THINK I lynch Artanis today. Still leaning town on him. He's been too insightful and useful.
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Breshke
Normally, when I think of Breshke, the first thing that comes to mind is that he has some really good townreads. I'm just always impressed by what he comes up with.
But I'm not so sure that I see this here.
- Breshke's townreads
+ Show Spoiler +Artanis[Xp]On April 21 2015 09:34 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 09:32 rsoultin wrote:On April 21 2015 09:31 Breshke wrote:On April 21 2015 09:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 21 2015 09:24 yamato77 wrote:
I told wave he'd be the day 1 lynch
let's make it happen, people
##vote: waveofshadow I'm ok with any lynch that isn't me since I need to overtake kita in the not lynched as town percentage tab. Therefore, any lynch that is not me furthers this condition and I support this lynch. ##Vote WaveofShadow tentative town read for this post. lol seriously? xP Yeah haha all jokes aside in my limited experiance with art ive never seen him mention stats before so him referencing town stats and relating it to this game just seems like a weird way for a scum artanis to open. This is obviously very weak hence the tentative part. Breshke elaborates on his Artanis townread here, but I just don't find it impressive at all. He is correct that Artanis seems to be reevaluating things, but Artanis is such a good player that the posts in question aren't really worthy of a townread. WaveofShadowOn April 22 2015 10:50 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 06:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Wtf this pressure on Artanis is fucking weird.
Like I'm super cynical that palmar and BH will ever contribute and I have an idea Artanis knows where I'm coming from, but these points of attack are weird and putting words in his mouth. Yamato what you said doesn't even make any sesne
Can't quote atm cause on phone but how is what you said even remotely what Artanis is doing?
And rsoul you get bored a lot for someone who is talking nonstop. I really really like this post. Wave joins artanis in my "can't see lynching" list. If wave is mafia his frustration this game is from him being wagoned early so being on the back foot trying to survive from the get go. The stuff about yamato's push is not really alignment indicative for him even though I fully agree with his view point. I'm not sure if i can explain this well but the last sentence on rsoul seems like it couldnt come from a scum wave as why would he randomly antagonize someone. Like he is clearly frustrated and if he is frustrated scum he would be trying to make friends not trying to piss people off. I don't see what it is about this post that makes Breshke like it so much. WaveofShadow says something that is obvious and doesn't result in any conclusions, and then adds a vague poke at rsoultin. And this results in a solid townread. rsoultinOn April 23 2015 08:39 Breshke wrote:
Haha i actually think you are likely town now rso. Youve saud some stuff while i was asleep that I liked. PalmarOn April 25 2015 19:55 Breshke wrote:
Palmar is my #4 town It's assumed that this is because Breshke is sheeping Palmar's case on yamato77. On April 28 2015 08:39 Breshke wrote:
Palmar
Legit dno how to read him. His play as scum here pushing on a townWos seems fairly absurd because if he knew WoS was going to flip town saying stuff like he will take all the blame seems odd because yes he could fight against this later but i get the feeling that he wouldn't set himself up to have to put in that much effort. So I find it unlikely that a scum palmar pushes on a town WoS but can see worlds where a scum palmar pushes on a scum WoS or a town palmar pushes on a town/scum WoS. I get this is associations or whatever but I don't know how else to get a grasp on his allighnment This is a weird post, because he completely ignores Palmar's push on yamato77 (who is Breshke's top scumread). DamdredOn April 26 2015 07:14 Breshke wrote:
Im gonna stop derailing u and damdred cos yourshit seems productive and I cant do shit all on phone. Be round later unlrss we lynch
I also feel that Breshke's pushes are sort of just following thread sentiment.
- Sheeps Damdred onto Blazinghand
+ Show Spoiler +On April 22 2015 12:03 Breshke wrote:
##Vote Blazinghand
I think damdred has explained this best already and I am already town reading a lot of people and unless i misinterpreted some time stamps we are overdue for some BH goodness. I'm not terribly impressed. On April 22 2015 12:23 Breshke wrote:
As for scum I don't really have anything concrete right now but I don't like that you town read yamato and basically have the entire game yet in this post here Ignoring the argument with rsoultin for now. However, this is before Blazinghand's return and case on Damdred, so we can assume that his push on Blazinghand is merely a pressure. On April 23 2015 08:16 Breshke wrote:
Morning
Yamatos point is strictly correct like we dont lose anything by giving BH an extra day.
That being said I still want to lynch him On April 23 2015 08:41 Breshke wrote:
The thing is like i really wont blame anyome currently voting BH if they unvote to give it an extra day. It wont be me though and I have a feeling we are going to lynch him anyway What changed.... I don't understand why Breshke is basically asking for people to not lynch Blazinghand, while saying that he won't do it himself. This just doesn't make sense to me. If he's willing to not blame people for unvoting, then he should be willing to unvote himself and take whatever flak he gets from it if he's town.
- Sheeps Palmar onto yamato77
+ Show Spoiler +On April 25 2015 10:22 Breshke wrote:
##vote Yamato
I like palmars case don't get why people thought he ment they had to be mafia together. I think him referencing yamato not interacting with his case on WoS shows that he wasn't actually looking for an alternative to the BH lynch as from what i can tell he still didn't like wave at EoD yet failed to bring him up at all.
I think this read can stand by tiself from his wave read since I still disagree with him on that i think wave is town. On April 27 2015 18:30 Breshke wrote:
I still think yamato is mafia.
There are a few things about his play that don't make sense to me from a town perspective. First of all his not wanting to lynch BH and wanting to extend the day. This is strange because he knew he would be busy on the weekends and still not having someone to push instead of BH I don't understand how he thought he would have time to evaluate the game and find a misslynch when he clearly didn't have much time to play.
Secondly his rant about how IML it is important to pressure people with the vote. The past couple cycles no one has really been pressured except yamato who was not present of any of these cycles until the most recent one. yamato had time to do some analysis which didn't end up with him voting anyone or really pressuring anyone which he earlier said was vital for town to do. Basically I just see it as him saying stuff but not backing it up with actual actions.
I also don't understand his artanis posts because he never actually voted for yamato which yamato seems to think happend.
##Vote Yamato The first quote is just sheeping. The second quote, he adds some original thought. However, there are a few obvious holes in this. Given that Breshke is usually cautious in his scumreads, this is somewhat unexpected that he would be this certain and not give possibility of doubt.
But the problem is, I don't really see scummy things that Breshke is doing. It's more that I'm not seeing things that I would expect to see. And that makes it difficult for me to scumread him.
I really like Breshke, and I do feel bad for mislynching him in Guardians, but I just don't see the insightful reads that I normally do. So he could be a good lynch here after all.
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I mean, Breshke has made some very good comments, and said some good things. But they don't result in reads. His reads result from things that I generally don't find very interesting (or things that had been clearly said before).
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trfel palmars push on yamto means little to me now since he flipped for reasons i didn't agree with hence im still pushing him and palmar isn't.
I realize how terrible im actually going after having a better than nomral start like I have been sheeping a lot its reminiscent of my first ever game which is frankly embarrassing.
Also ignore the guardians thing don't let that sway you ahah that was mostly my fault I didn't put enough effort in until it was too late.
Also i still really like that wave post like he was defending art against a weird push which wasnt obvious to the people how wrong the reasons were and then he went on to antagonize rso over something i thought was also legit
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On April 28 2015 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
yeah, it makes less sense xP like you may have just picked out one of the biggest arguments for a town yamato there, breshke, unless of course you're scum which you won't admit if you are anyway so -shrugs- Maybe if you ask him really nicely. Alright so I have a bit more time. Palmar Damdred go. What do we think? I don't THINK I lynch Artanis today. Still leaning town on him. He's been too insightful and useful.
lol >< i don't see palmar's push on you coming from scum...i think it's kind of funny that he thinks we should either sheep or lynch him but that's neither here nor there
damdred...meeeh i don't want to lynch him right now on a hunch and a gutread and maybe i'm pocketed i don't know but i can't ignore his lack of presence in the thread lately >< it's made me less sure on him, too
agree that i'm feeling better about artie in general even if i don't really agree with him
long and short of it is if i had to kill one of the three it would be damdred, but i don't really want to lynch any of them lol ><
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heh truffle's case is more or less what i've been saying all game so i'm not sure that i even need to read it o.0 maybe he'll present it in a better way though
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Also the doubt in the scumreads thing is kinda similar to guardians where yeah i have doubt but I don't really have space to show it. Ended up me pushing for at least one town lynch in guardians so maybe I should rethink that.
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On April 28 2015 12:44 rsoultin wrote:
heh truffle's case is more or less what i've been saying all game so i'm not sure that i even need to read it o.0 maybe he'll present it in a better way though Nope, I don't think you need to read it.
I think that the one thing I found that was actually notable was the way he dealt with the Blazinghand lynch near the deadline, though that's probably been mentioned already.
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On April 28 2015 12:45 Breshke wrote:
Also the doubt in the scumreads thing is kinda similar to guardians where yeah i have doubt but I don't really have space to show it. Ended up me pushing for at least one town lynch in guardians so maybe I should rethink that. And that is the hole in the argument.
Sorry, it's a new thing I've been trying, to not put explanations in people's mouths, even if it seems darn obvious.
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On April 27 2015 20:51 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2015 07:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
And where do you get 'stay alive-y' from Palmar?
He's been coming in and posting at pretty random times and none of i is when he's under suspicion or anything, and you don't feel as though he has an agenda even though he's pushed me (and to a lesser extent yamato) nonstop?
I don't udnerstand though how Palmar immediately townreads yamato just because of his few posts last night tbh I don't townread him. I just think it's less likely he's mafia than you, hence I moved my vote. Breshke, Palmar didn't flip on yamato77. He just decided that WaveofShadow was a better lynch.
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Oh and the BH stuff basically I wanted to lynch him that day but would have understood if someone didn't as we probably would have ended up lynching him anyway so if someone voting him wanted to unvote and give it more time i was fine with that but I didn't feel like i needed more time myself.
I also think I was reading most of the people on the wagon town at the time aswell
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On April 28 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 28 2015 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
yeah, it makes less sense xP like you may have just picked out one of the biggest arguments for a town yamato there, breshke, unless of course you're scum which you won't admit if you are anyway so -shrugs- Maybe if you ask him really nicely. Alright so I have a bit more time. Palmar Damdred go. What do we think? I don't THINK I lynch Artanis today. Still leaning town on him. He's been too insightful and useful. lol >< i don't see palmar's push on you coming from scum...i think it's kind of funny that he thinks we should either sheep or lynch him but that's neither here nor there damdred...meeeh i don't want to lynch him right now on a hunch and a gutread and maybe i'm pocketed i don't know but i can't ignore his lack of presence in the thread lately >< it's made me less sure on him, too agree that i'm feeling better about artie in general even if i don't really agree with him long and short of it is if i had to kill one of the three it would be damdred, but i don't really want to lynch any of them lol ><
You're pretty easily pocketed lol
Yeah I'm going to attempt to keep my eye on damdred at this point but I doubt he's a target tomorrow above even me probably simply because palmar will always be around
I don't know what I think of palmar anymore---the incessant no-reason pushing is seriously pissing me off and I keep trying to stay objective on him.
And re: breshke I STILL don't see why you find breshke scummy for the same stuff you ignore in Trfel. And I've been bugging you about that for fucking ever and it REALLY bothers me. I'm not going to lynch breshke.
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On April 28 2015 12:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote:
like in what world does scum!yamato not jump at the chance to try to paint one of his alternate wagons scum if they're town lol >< IN the world where he's scum and isn't playing the game. METAMETAMETAMETA but I have no choie here there isn't much else to go on. Town yamato would have played by this point I think. Palmar and Artanis should also know this for the record.
>< tbh
there is reason to believe that damdy/yama are busy
and things going on now reaffirm my way of reading breshke to the extent that i'm finding it extremely difficult to drop my scumread on him here no matter how many times i try to look at it from he's maybe town this game
this game could be a huge exception but it just...doesn't...have that extra edge that i love about breshke
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On April 28 2015 12:48 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2015 20:51 Palmar wrote:On April 27 2015 07:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
And where do you get 'stay alive-y' from Palmar?
He's been coming in and posting at pretty random times and none of i is when he's under suspicion or anything, and you don't feel as though he has an agenda even though he's pushed me (and to a lesser extent yamato) nonstop?
I don't udnerstand though how Palmar immediately townreads yamato just because of his few posts last night tbh I don't townread him. I just think it's less likely he's mafia than you, hence I moved my vote. Breshke, Palmar didn't flip on yamato77. He just decided that WaveofShadow was a better lynch.
Oh rearry
On April 27 2015 03:39 Palmar wrote:
Quickly skimmed Yamato since he came back. Moving my vote to waveofshadow
##unvote
##vote waveofshadow
I think it's less likely that Yamato is mafia now so that kinda puts artanis back on the table
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On April 28 2015 12:48 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2015 20:51 Palmar wrote:On April 27 2015 07:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
And where do you get 'stay alive-y' from Palmar?
He's been coming in and posting at pretty random times and none of i is when he's under suspicion or anything, and you don't feel as though he has an agenda even though he's pushed me (and to a lesser extent yamato) nonstop?
I don't udnerstand though how Palmar immediately townreads yamato just because of his few posts last night tbh I don't townread him. I just think it's less likely he's mafia than you, hence I moved my vote. Breshke, Palmar didn't flip on yamato77. He just decided that WaveofShadow was a better lynch.
Yeah but he thinks art and wave are both more likely scum than him so that is basically flipping on him from my perspective
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Rso it can be frustrating that you have a lot of tone reads and such that can't be explained. Like i get it is a legitimate way to play the game and probably more useful than what ive been doing but it is jsut so hard to interact/defend with reads like that.
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