On April 28 2015 08:08 rsoultin wrote:
both? it made sense from your perspective even if technically wrong

are you scumreading me breshke cause otherwise i do not see the point of this -_-

No. Im trying to work out if anything I said before people liked or thought was nonsense.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

April 27 2015 23:12 GMT

#1102

...

and how is that in any way useful?

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

April 27 2015 23:16 GMT

#1103

On April 28 2015 08:12 rsoultin wrote:
...

and how is that in any way useful?

because if people im town reading think what im saying is wrong then I need to consider it more.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

April 27 2015 23:17 GMT

#1104

we're not lynching today ^^

##unvote

i'm calling a truce

talk to me about what you think and i'll respond. i want to know what your opinions are right now anyway

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

April 27 2015 23:23 GMT

#1105

Egh
Ultimately I feel like you guys are going to have to decide whether or not to lynch me somewhere down the road when I'm not around because I'm basically never going to be around.

I'll do some posting in a couple hours when I get the chance. Something about me pushing but not really pushing Trfel that I disagree with and I forget what else.

yamato77

11589 Posts

April 27 2015 23:34 GMT

#1106

alright folks

I'm around

somewhat

Damdred

15669 Posts

April 27 2015 23:38 GMT

#1107

We need to lynch soon day is dragging on honestly. Need more information to make better decisions tomorrow -_-.

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

April 27 2015 23:39 GMT

#1108

Sorry was typing something up and lost it

So I like trfel you and I don't feel like I need to expand upon these reads for you.

WoS
I still like WoS. Im like just over halfway through his filter and I still really like him as town. I know mediating fights is any easy thing to do as mafia but im town and I think your town so when we had our disagreement I feel wos was truly trying to help resolve it when shit was hitting the fan which he wouldnt really have a motive to do if he was mafia.

Palmar
Legit dno how to read him. His play as scum here pushing on a townWos seems fairly absurd because if he knew WoS was going to flip town saying stuff like he will take all the blame seems odd because yes he could fight against this later but i get the feeling that he wouldn't set himself up to have to put in that much effort. So I find it unlikely that a scum palmar pushes on a town WoS but can see worlds where a scum palmar pushes on a scum WoS or a town palmar pushes on a town/scum WoS. I get this is associations or whatever but I don't know how else to get a grasp on his allighnment

Yamato ive already talked about

Damdred I think is town he has been preaty open that he is i guess keeping his options open like he is considering all cases but he doesn't just say it and then randomly pick wagons he seems to actually try and consider each wagon and what not. I like that trfels most recent post made damdred flip his read aswell. Would like him to reconsider yamato though.

Artanis is a weaker town read but still a town read. Add on to this the fact that he went back to find his previous analysis of my play like why? when one of the most vocal people who is most likely town is pushing for my lynch would a scum art bring this up in defense of me. This is a really shallow read though.

Trfel

7015 Posts

April 27 2015 23:49 GMT

#1109

I'm back. We aren't lynching today?

We probably ought to lynch tomorrow, then, if we can settle by then. I think we ought to.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

April 27 2015 23:51 GMT

#1110

i agree with damdred that we have to lynch tomorrow for sure

and honestly bresh that moment with wave was what made me think he was town more than anything, cause i was flipping shit and i know my own alignment lol ><

hrum i guess you could be town here

i don't hate your reads

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

April 27 2015 23:56 GMT

#1111

On April 28 2015 08:51 rsoultin wrote:
i agree with damdred that we have to lynch tomorrow for sure

and honestly bresh that moment with wave was what made me think he was town more than anything, cause i was flipping shit and i know my own alignment lol ><

hrum i guess you could be town here

i don't hate your reads

No they are actually quite bad if you look at them in the scope of all of them together.

I have one scum palmar as a IDK and everyone else as town.

Trfel

7015 Posts

April 27 2015 23:56 GMT

#1112

On April 28 2015 07:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I kind of favour waiting another day as well with both Wave and a large number of other players basically being afk for the whole of today. I also want to make sure wave replies rather than getting lynched whilst afk. On that note:

##Unvote

Trfel, can you talk to me about people other than Wave too? It's neat that you don't want to lynch me but I'm curious as to the why. You asked me how to find out if I were scum. Did you do any research on your own after that?

I thought that your scumread on me was a weaker read. When you explained it, it actually made a lot of sense. Since then, you've been doing reasonable things and pushing good things. It's possible that you are mafia here, but it would take some work to find out. And I haven't done that work yet.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

April 27 2015 23:58 GMT

#1113

I don't feel your reason for townreading Wave is strong at all. That's something he'd definitely do as scum as it gets you easy town points. It's a way to look town without doing any real analysis. That's motive enough for mafia.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

April 28 2015 00:02 GMT

#1114

Cycle 2.4:

There is no majority. Day continues.

It takes 5 votes to lynch.

until the next cycle ends.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

April 28 2015 00:03 GMT

#1115

I have subjectively determined that little progress is being made in this game. I'll be imposing a 3-cycle cap to this day. You have 72 hours to lynch, or the day will end in a no-lynch.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

April 28 2015 00:04 GMT

#1116

On April 28 2015 08:56 Breshke wrote:

Show nested quote +

No they are actually quite bad if you look at them in the scope of all of them together.

I have one scum palmar as a IDK and everyone else as town.

lol i know ><

why do you think i'm scumreading you? xP if i don't hate your reads?

Trfel

7015 Posts

April 28 2015 00:04 GMT

#1117

On April 28 2015 09:03 Hapahauli wrote:
I have subjectively determined that little progress is being made in this game. I'll be imposing a 3-cycle cap to this day. You have 72 hours to lynch, or the day will end in a no-lynch.

I feel insulted....

It's okay, mafia isn't going to kill me, so at least I have a lot of time to get my game together.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

April 28 2015 00:32 GMT

#1118

meh i'll worry about this tomorrow ><

Trfel

7015 Posts

April 28 2015 01:35 GMT

#1119

If anyone wants to talk, let me know. Otherwise I'll probably be studying.

Trfel

7015 Posts

April 28 2015 02:14 GMT

#1120

I guess, my biggest problem with this game is that it's really hard to find scum.

I'm not the only player who's said this. I'm just thinking that if it's this hard to find scum, it's far less reliable to scumread people for having fewer scumreads, or not pushing their scumreads (Breshke, WaveofShadow, to a lesser extent yamato77). And I'm really not sure what to do about that... I almost wish we had Blazinghand in the game, RNG pushing everyone. Perhaps at this point that would actually be a good strategy.