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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 02:29 GMT
#1121
On April 28 2015 11:14 Trfel wrote:
I guess, my biggest problem with this game is that it's really hard to find scum.

I'm not the only player who's said this. I'm just thinking that if it's this hard to find scum, it's far less reliable to scumread people for having fewer scumreads, or not pushing their scumreads (Breshke, WaveofShadow, to a lesser extent yamato77). And I'm really not sure what to do about that... I almost wish we had Blazinghand in the game, RNG pushing everyone. Perhaps at this point that would actually be a good strategy.


This is a very very understanding post.

The way I see it the lynch today will either be myself, wave or yamato maybe art on this list but i dont think so. I think it would be better to focus on these three (myself, wave yamato) and decide who we want to lynch because no lynching would be fairly bad.

As for my opinion I obviously do not want to lynch myself and I still want to lynch yamato.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 28 2015 02:35 GMT
#1122
On April 28 2015 11:29 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 11:14 Trfel wrote:
I guess, my biggest problem with this game is that it's really hard to find scum.

I'm not the only player who's said this. I'm just thinking that if it's this hard to find scum, it's far less reliable to scumread people for having fewer scumreads, or not pushing their scumreads (Breshke, WaveofShadow, to a lesser extent yamato77). And I'm really not sure what to do about that... I almost wish we had Blazinghand in the game, RNG pushing everyone. Perhaps at this point that would actually be a good strategy.


This is a very very understanding post.

The way I see it the lynch today will either be myself, wave or yamato maybe art on this list but i dont think so. I think it would be better to focus on these three (myself, wave yamato) and decide who we want to lynch because no lynching would be fairly bad.

As for my opinion I obviously do not want to lynch myself and I still want to lynch yamato.
Since you agree with me, what do you think/hope that town and you specifically (two separate questions) can do about it?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 28 2015 02:39 GMT
#1123
Just commenting on random shit I remember while I have the time.

I don't think I want to lynch Trfel anymore.
This could be falling into noob trap or some shit but the apology post RARELY comes from scum. He could be a tricksy one but I don't think I see it.

Problem then becomes the only scum left for me is yamato and someone I've previously townread.
I don't see it being Breshke. I REALLY don't. Could be Artanis, Palmar.................(rsoul? probably not rsoul.)

On April 27 2015 23:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On April 27 2015 20:52 Palmar wrote:
Like I wish I could just get people to take a leap of faith with me and lynch WoS. I'm not sure I'll have the pull to get it otherwise.

I am fairly certain he is mafia.

Could you make your reasoning on Wave more clear? All I've heard on Wave is his reasoning for the 3 votes on him early on, his differentiating between me and Yamato, not caring about your alignment and saying he hasn't been trying to solve the game. I don't find the former two very convincing at all. Regarding the third, I can understand what he says because part of your scumread on him is how he interacts with Wave in a way that'd make sense for them to be scumbuddies. As for the latter, that's probably what troubles me the most on Wave. He comments on a lot of things but he doesn't really push anything. He wanted to lynch someone this night as his activity dropped off but I don't think he actually voted anyone.

I may actually be convincing myself here.

I mean, yeah, but no.
On April 28 2015 04:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think I may be on board for a Wave lynch after going through the last few pages of his filter. It feels a lot like he's commenting on the game rather than figuring out stuff like Palmar pointed out. He's voted Yamato but doesn't really push him, and then there's oddball comments like
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 10:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Remind me why we're not lynching trfel again

When we've been talking about Trfel for a while at that point, so one would expect he'd have more specific reasons. Furthermore, his vote is still on Yamato.

I'm actually struggling with voting him a lot because he's been very reasonable to me and I like him so I really don't want to be wrong, but I do think he's scum here. His activity to influence on the game ratio is just way off, and a lot of his posts just really don't help town to figure out the game.
##Vote WaveOfShadow

I had extremely specific reasons throughout my filter as to why I thought Trfel was scum (before this point). I mean as to why I still had my vote on yamato, I don't really have a good explanation for that. Placeholder I guess because it was pretty clear nobody was being lynched at any specific time, and I didn't mind having my vote on either one at the time because neither one was in any danger since the original unvoting. Don't have much more to say on that.

On April 28 2015 05:50 Trfel wrote:
Do you think there is anything to the inconsistency between WaveofShadow's claim that he never uses meta and that he actually uses meta a noticeable amount? And how he uses meta for some ( for example, Palmar), but refuses to use meta for others?
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On April 22 2015 23:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
And there's still yamato who's done mostly shit all but be belligerent with me lately. (I'd call him town because his current not caring about the game currently is extremely town yamato but meta so fuck that)


Ugh Trfel whyyyyy
I mean it comes down to this with Trfel.
Apology post vs everything he does, essentially, and I still think I choose the apology post. Like...if Trfel is being coached by anyone (would have to be rsoul as scumbuddy for this to happen, and I dunno if I see them working on such a specific strategy behind the scenes and in thread together) or has realized that looking really unsure of oneself/newbie is a good way to play scum then I'm just dead wrong but I don't THINK I am.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 28 2015 02:45 GMT
#1124
I'm also not really sure why Rsoul is so aggro towards breshke. It just seems really out of place.

KK yamato.
I mean...I don't really even have anything I comment on. Dude's not here, not playing. Like...super minor push on Artanis, and ONE post on me while fingering me earlier in the thread---honestly makes it seem like he was looking for a reason to scumread me when he posted this:
On April 26 2015 15:08 yamato77 wrote:
Before I delve into your posts, Damdred, I'll say that I haven't liked Artanis from the start, so it's pretty easy for me to get on to the idea of him being mafia. His whole "you made me mad so now I'm NOT going to play the game" thing was a weak response to my pressure and I should have pushed it more.

His trfel read kinda synced with mine a bit at eod so I wavered but with rso basically calling him (trfel) conf town I dunno if my read is even good so I can't give Artanis much credit there even if we had the same problem with trfel.

So I assume you mean these posts, where you outline your problems with Artanis

Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin.


artie is hard for me to read :/

like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere

i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying

my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression

i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle


A few things really,

I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato?

That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato.

Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting.


I can't really speak to the flow of the game sort of stuff like OMGUS response and reactive activity seeing as I'm reading everything in hindsight, so this post in and of itself doesn't mean a whole lot to me.

Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 07:15 Damdred wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:10 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:04 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Talk to me about Artanis Rsoultin.


artie is hard for me to read :/

like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere

i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying

my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression

i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle


A few things really,

I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato?

That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato.

Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting.


hmm that may be true i'd have to take another look at when he started talking :/ and his general read progression on the both of y'all

there was definitely re-evaluation on truffle, though, that much i'm sure of

and i kinda get the vote palmar, unvote thing...isn't it a thing to push palmar to see how he responds to get a read? i thought it was. i know that palmar typically encourages it, and palmar did come out looking more townie for it lol >< anyway

give me a bit to look into that


Well one thing to understand about Palmar is in this type of situation what does one vote do? Its no where close to picking up steam he is in peoples POE list but does that guarantee hes going to get up and going just because he has 1/5 votes needed its not pressurish at all imo. It could of turned into that if other people hopped on the wagon, but i'm not so sure about it especially.

But Art did push off a Yamato lynch I believe when he first started talking about me after my trfel post earlier in this cycle. And then he said i should be the lynch over Yamato because my reads aren't intricate and mostly fluff.

But then he neither pushes Palmar for l ynch really or pushes me to an extent, if you think that Yamato shouldnt' be the lynch and either one of Palmar/Damdred should why would you sit back and really do nothing to influence what people think?


that's a fair point. i thought he was scumreading yamato though?


On April 24 2015 22:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I definitely don't want to lynch Yamato today or probably any day. His mafia game is much worse than what he's shown so far and he cares too much.


Just an exert

then we have this

On April 26 2015 03:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Meta is great though. Especially when you apply it incorrectly and presume that since Marv once told you that Yamato is absolutely terrible at scum, you figure he can't have 4 pages so far and have pushed some things.

Actually a problem I see in his filter is that he's droning on about the same things over and over again. First WoS, then the thing with me on waiting for Palmar/BH to contribute, and then on BH. He doesn't really re-evaluate anything nor does he share many thoughts on other things than whatever he's chasing at the time.

Could prob lynch/10.


On April 26 2015 03:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 26 2015 03:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 26 2015 03:20 rsoultin wrote:
On April 21 2015 12:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
They were real reads before I realized the premise was wrong. And why the fuck do I have to call you town?
Why are you fishing for townreads from me yamato? You're behaving so oddly, and it's not even your normal hyper-aggressive early game push that Im used to.

I just wanted to wreck scum with you for once. Just once. Apparently it was too much to ask.


from the one who doesn't like to use meta xP

It's an observation, and I'm not calling him scum based on that. He's absolutely behaving oddly, even ignoring what I already know of him.

On April 26 2015 03:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 26 2015 03:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Especially when you apply it incorrectly and presume that since Marv once told you that Yamato is absolutely terrible at scum, you figure he can't have 4 pages so far and have pushed some things.

Where did I do this? And no in my experience meta is shit terrible, and I am certainly not marv, one of very few people who can maybe attempt to use it correctly.

essentially the call is are we feeling lynchy or do we wait for yamato
And frankly by the time 48h rolls around im always feeling lynchy

I want to see a flip so I'll sheep rsoul
##unvote
##vote: yamato77

Sorry, I didn't mean that you did this, I meant that I did that.


So that means you found him town earlier based on him pushing some stuff 'cause meta and now you're rethinking it?

Basically, yes. I think I might want to lynch Damdred over him though. His list post is followed by a bunch of fluff that doesn't really say anything and doesn't have any of the intricate reads Damdred usually has. It's so unrefined and fluffy, and his apologetic tone on "I know it's pretty global" only compounds it.


Finally this, i went through Arts filter and there is no Yamato scum read in it.

Just things like, I could make better posts but that doesn't make Yamato scum etc.,


This post, where you ping out his changing read on me, is quite interesting.

Notably, I literally haven't given a new read since eod, so how could Artanis go from such a confident strong townread to such a weak justification of voting for me in such a short time? ritoky did this sort of thing as scum in the last game and it really brought him forward to me as possible mafia.

His follow-up where he continues to push you while casually calling me mafia is quite interesting though. Wouldn't it be really easy for scum Artanis to just flock to the herd rather than continue to ping you out?


Still don't see any reason not to lynch Yamato but for some reason I'm starting to think of unflipped scumteams (bad wave bad) and palmar/yamato makes a great deal of sense considering how quickly yamato just flew off his radar for no good reason. Although then again everything Palmar has done this game hasn't been for much good reason so I still don't know what to think of it.

Artanis getting sick of Palmar and wants to lynch him---at first glance seems really bad since Artanis didn't care about Palmar's weak pushing up until now, but to wait for THIS long to try and get Palmar lynched from scum seems weird...like why not try it earlier since it's not like Palmar has done anything differently? Unless it's Artanis just trying to look for a new target I don't THINK that comes from scum.

I was about to ask who Artanis wants to lynch now but I think it's me. Fair.

I guess yamato remains my target then since apology post from Trfel and while there are other possibilities, yamato seems like the most solid choice. As far as voting for afkers goes we have a limit now, and it's likely people (especially me) are going to be away for deadline so like I said before people are going to have to get over the fact that they're lynching someone who's afk. If it's me so be it.
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 02:46 GMT
#1125
On April 28 2015 11:35 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 11:29 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:14 Trfel wrote:
I guess, my biggest problem with this game is that it's really hard to find scum.

I'm not the only player who's said this. I'm just thinking that if it's this hard to find scum, it's far less reliable to scumread people for having fewer scumreads, or not pushing their scumreads (Breshke, WaveofShadow, to a lesser extent yamato77). And I'm really not sure what to do about that... I almost wish we had Blazinghand in the game, RNG pushing everyone. Perhaps at this point that would actually be a good strategy.


This is a very very understanding post.

The way I see it the lynch today will either be myself, wave or yamato maybe art on this list but i dont think so. I think it would be better to focus on these three (myself, wave yamato) and decide who we want to lynch because no lynching would be fairly bad.

As for my opinion I obviously do not want to lynch myself and I still want to lynch yamato.
Since you agree with me, what do you think/hope that town and you specifically (two separate questions) can do about it?


Town should focus the lynch between the three players I stated to ensure we get a lynch that is discussed and what not and just not agreed upon at the very end of the last phase. Obviously if someone finds something important then yeah do that and this plan doesn't work for wave at all because he town-reads me and yam

Personally I want to lynch yamato because I think he currently has the best chance of flipping scum
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 28 2015 02:47 GMT
#1126
On April 28 2015 11:46 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 11:35 Trfel wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:29 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:14 Trfel wrote:
I guess, my biggest problem with this game is that it's really hard to find scum.

I'm not the only player who's said this. I'm just thinking that if it's this hard to find scum, it's far less reliable to scumread people for having fewer scumreads, or not pushing their scumreads (Breshke, WaveofShadow, to a lesser extent yamato77). And I'm really not sure what to do about that... I almost wish we had Blazinghand in the game, RNG pushing everyone. Perhaps at this point that would actually be a good strategy.


This is a very very understanding post.

The way I see it the lynch today will either be myself, wave or yamato maybe art on this list but i dont think so. I think it would be better to focus on these three (myself, wave yamato) and decide who we want to lynch because no lynching would be fairly bad.

As for my opinion I obviously do not want to lynch myself and I still want to lynch yamato.
Since you agree with me, what do you think/hope that town and you specifically (two separate questions) can do about it?


Town should focus the lynch between the three players I stated to ensure we get a lynch that is discussed and what not and just not agreed upon at the very end of the last phase. Obviously if someone finds something important then yeah do that and this plan doesn't work for wave at all because he town-reads me and yam

Personally I want to lynch yamato because I think he currently has the best chance of flipping scum

I agree with this and I am not flipping Breshke today because the only person pushing has been rsoul and I don't think her case has any merit.


Oh wow I forgot about Damdred completely.

Uh.,..that in itself weirds me out.
Did he do stuff today?
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 02:47 GMT
#1127
Im dumb i confused art and wave there. Wave doesn't townread yamato ignore that bit
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 28 2015 02:48 GMT
#1128
LOL I was just about to ask.
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 02:53 GMT
#1129
On April 28 2015 11:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 11:46 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:35 Trfel wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:29 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:14 Trfel wrote:
I guess, my biggest problem with this game is that it's really hard to find scum.

I'm not the only player who's said this. I'm just thinking that if it's this hard to find scum, it's far less reliable to scumread people for having fewer scumreads, or not pushing their scumreads (Breshke, WaveofShadow, to a lesser extent yamato77). And I'm really not sure what to do about that... I almost wish we had Blazinghand in the game, RNG pushing everyone. Perhaps at this point that would actually be a good strategy.


This is a very very understanding post.

The way I see it the lynch today will either be myself, wave or yamato maybe art on this list but i dont think so. I think it would be better to focus on these three (myself, wave yamato) and decide who we want to lynch because no lynching would be fairly bad.

As for my opinion I obviously do not want to lynch myself and I still want to lynch yamato.
Since you agree with me, what do you think/hope that town and you specifically (two separate questions) can do about it?


Town should focus the lynch between the three players I stated to ensure we get a lynch that is discussed and what not and just not agreed upon at the very end of the last phase. Obviously if someone finds something important then yeah do that and this plan doesn't work for wave at all because he town-reads me and yam

Personally I want to lynch yamato because I think he currently has the best chance of flipping scum

I agree with this and I am not flipping Breshke today because the only person pushing has been rsoul and I don't think her case has any merit.


Oh wow I forgot about Damdred completely.

Uh.,..that in itself weirds me out.
Did he do stuff today?


If by today you mean this new cycle then no
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 28 2015 02:55 GMT
#1130
On April 28 2015 11:53 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 11:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:46 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:35 Trfel wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:29 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:14 Trfel wrote:
I guess, my biggest problem with this game is that it's really hard to find scum.

I'm not the only player who's said this. I'm just thinking that if it's this hard to find scum, it's far less reliable to scumread people for having fewer scumreads, or not pushing their scumreads (Breshke, WaveofShadow, to a lesser extent yamato77). And I'm really not sure what to do about that... I almost wish we had Blazinghand in the game, RNG pushing everyone. Perhaps at this point that would actually be a good strategy.


This is a very very understanding post.

The way I see it the lynch today will either be myself, wave or yamato maybe art on this list but i dont think so. I think it would be better to focus on these three (myself, wave yamato) and decide who we want to lynch because no lynching would be fairly bad.

As for my opinion I obviously do not want to lynch myself and I still want to lynch yamato.
Since you agree with me, what do you think/hope that town and you specifically (two separate questions) can do about it?


Town should focus the lynch between the three players I stated to ensure we get a lynch that is discussed and what not and just not agreed upon at the very end of the last phase. Obviously if someone finds something important then yeah do that and this plan doesn't work for wave at all because he town-reads me and yam

Personally I want to lynch yamato because I think he currently has the best chance of flipping scum

I agree with this and I am not flipping Breshke today because the only person pushing has been rsoul and I don't think her case has any merit.


Oh wow I forgot about Damdred completely.

Uh.,..that in itself weirds me out.
Did he do stuff today?


If by today you mean this new cycle then no

Actually the past two days he hasn't done shit.
And that's saying a lot coming from me.
Maybe 'cuz no longer suspect?


Fuck this game though
Just lynch me so I don't have to try and feel guilty about not being able to try plz
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 02:59 GMT
#1131
On April 28 2015 11:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 11:53 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:46 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:35 Trfel wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:29 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 11:14 Trfel wrote:
I guess, my biggest problem with this game is that it's really hard to find scum.

I'm not the only player who's said this. I'm just thinking that if it's this hard to find scum, it's far less reliable to scumread people for having fewer scumreads, or not pushing their scumreads (Breshke, WaveofShadow, to a lesser extent yamato77). And I'm really not sure what to do about that... I almost wish we had Blazinghand in the game, RNG pushing everyone. Perhaps at this point that would actually be a good strategy.


This is a very very understanding post.

The way I see it the lynch today will either be myself, wave or yamato maybe art on this list but i dont think so. I think it would be better to focus on these three (myself, wave yamato) and decide who we want to lynch because no lynching would be fairly bad.

As for my opinion I obviously do not want to lynch myself and I still want to lynch yamato.
Since you agree with me, what do you think/hope that town and you specifically (two separate questions) can do about it?


Town should focus the lynch between the three players I stated to ensure we get a lynch that is discussed and what not and just not agreed upon at the very end of the last phase. Obviously if someone finds something important then yeah do that and this plan doesn't work for wave at all because he town-reads me and yam

Personally I want to lynch yamato because I think he currently has the best chance of flipping scum

I agree with this and I am not flipping Breshke today because the only person pushing has been rsoul and I don't think her case has any merit.


Oh wow I forgot about Damdred completely.

Uh.,..that in itself weirds me out.
Did he do stuff today?


If by today you mean this new cycle then no

Actually the past two days he hasn't done shit.
And that's saying a lot coming from me.
Maybe 'cuz no longer suspect?


Fuck this game though
Just lynch me so I don't have to try and feel guilty about not being able to try plz


I feel tomorrow may be suprisingly easier for the people who are still around since there is a chance for PR goodness and the pool of players will be significantly reduced so there is no point giving up.

Also we only need to convince 3 more people that yamato is the best lynch.

I'll relook at damdred tonight maybe but currently I do not want to lynch him.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 28 2015 03:01 GMT
#1132
WaveofShadow,

The main thing that I have a problem with in your play is that I don't really feel that you have been pushing your scumreads that hard. Do you mind explaining this for me?

Thanks!
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 03:02 GMT
#1133
I don't think there is one post where yamato tries to work out/makes conclusions about my alignment.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 28 2015 03:11 GMT
#1134
On April 28 2015 12:01 Trfel wrote:
WaveofShadow,

The main thing that I have a problem with in your play is that I don't really feel that you have been pushing your scumreads that hard. Do you mind explaining this for me?

Thanks!

Look at the times I've been around and what I've talked about. Before I very recently townread you, look at all the posts I've made about you, and the times rsoul responded to me.
That was all pushing you. I also pushed yamato yesterday. (And for the record not pushing a scumread 'that hard' isn't in itself a good scumread imo, but whatevs)
Whether or not you or the rest of the thread 'feels' like I've been doing it doesn't really matter a great deal to me.
I mean the only thing I suppose I can admit to is that my timing hasn't been amazing and the times I have been around while other people were, I sort of joined discussion where I could.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 28 2015 03:14 GMT
#1135
why am i being so aggressive toward breshke? weird question

i still don't get why people are so certain he's town -_-

i don't really care if you think my case has merit or not, wave. no one's case has merit if mine doesn't. we're all saying pretty much the same things about different people
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 28 2015 03:16 GMT
#1136
On April 28 2015 12:02 Breshke wrote:
I don't think there is one post where yamato tries to work out/makes conclusions about my alignment.


this may be true? i'm kind of confused why you're hyper-focused on what people think of your alignment this game xP but i think that argument was also made by wave earlier...or maybe truffle

i don't remember

that he seemed to be posting without conclusions
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 03:18 GMT
#1137
On April 28 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 12:02 Breshke wrote:
I don't think there is one post where yamato tries to work out/makes conclusions about my alignment.


this may be true? i'm kind of confused why you're hyper-focused on what people think of your alignment this game xP but i think that argument was also made by wave earlier...or maybe truffle

i don't remember

that he seemed to be posting without conclusions


no idc what he thinks of my alignment. One of his big townreads is pushing me hard im one of the alternate wagons to him and he hasn't considered me ever. Doesn't really feel right.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 28 2015 03:18 GMT
#1138
ftr that was an argument i agreed with lol ><

and yeah damdy has fallen off again too -_- i'd noticed that as well wave
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 28 2015 03:19 GMT
#1139
On April 28 2015 12:18 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote:
On April 28 2015 12:02 Breshke wrote:
I don't think there is one post where yamato tries to work out/makes conclusions about my alignment.


this may be true? i'm kind of confused why you're hyper-focused on what people think of your alignment this game xP but i think that argument was also made by wave earlier...or maybe truffle

i don't remember

that he seemed to be posting without conclusions


no idc what he thinks of my alignment. One of his big townreads is pushing me hard im one of the alternate wagons to him and he hasn't considered me ever. Doesn't really feel right.


...

okay

see my problem with this is this doesn't make much sense to me at all unless you're scum together, if you're saying this makes him scum
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 28 2015 03:20 GMT
#1140
like in what world does scum!yamato not jump at the chance to try to paint one of his alternate wagons scum if they're town lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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