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Like why is this so fucking hard. I've almost never put this much effort into lynching someone on day 1. I wrote multiple cases and shit, but people instead lynched a random smurf like the shitty cattle they are.
On April 07 2015 19:39 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2015 19:33 Vivax wrote:On April 07 2015 19:29 Palmar wrote:On April 07 2015 19:11 Vivax wrote:
Damdred pretty hard on GB with his reasoning. Not sure if legit, he chose the worst possible explanation for GB complaining about HF vs Obi.
As if HF asking for an Obi wambulance was oh so informative lol. The point is not whether or not what they were doing was productive. The question is whether GB was doing anything useful at all. Define useful in a wambulance and random gif setting. Okay clearly you're being affected by a small head syndrome. HF and Obi were having a shitfest. I'm not arguing that. When this happens there are a few options open to a player not involved. Some of them are useful, some are useless. Here's a few options GB could have taken. GB could have: - Ignored it and walked away
- Tried to put a stop to it
- Tried to change the subject to something more entertaining or useful
- Joined in on the fun
- Idly complained about it without trying to stop it or change the subject
- Tried to glean some information from it
You'll notice that he did actually take one of the options. The problem I have is that is by fare the worst option available. By his own admission he wasn't trying to stop them, so what was he trying to achieve? He wasn't being funny, he wasn't being sociable, he wasn't trying to bring up a new subject, he wasn't scumhunting or trying to poke people further. Why did GB post?
On April 08 2015 18:33 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 03:54 GlowingBear wrote:On April 07 2015 21:41 Palmar wrote:
Like to be clear, I BELIEVE you when you say you were not trying to stop the discussion. I have never questioned that. On April 07 2015 23:02 Palmar wrote:On April 07 2015 22:16 GlowingBear wrote:On April 07 2015 22:06 Vivax wrote:
You just said you don't think he's mafia wtf... Because I thought he was nitpicking just to generate discussion. Since he isn't, and since he thinks I was posting just to post, I am reevaluating my position. He is calling me Mafia for a single post I've made without evaluating my overall gameplay. More than this, he is calling me Mafia for something that is null indicative and that other players have been doing (ritoky, for example). He is having a groundless tunnel and double standards by parroting Damdred. It fits perfectly the Mafia partner that comes to defend his buddy from a call out, discrediting the other player I don't agree with the bolded. If you read my biggest post, and a followup after that, it's clear that I don't believe you were trying to be funny. It is super clear that ritoky's opening posts are trying to be funny/trolling. That's the difference. I know why ritoky posted. I don't know why you posted. "I believe in you but I don't really believe in you." I'm confused This is the scummiest post in the thread. In my mind, this here confirms GB as mafia. It would probably be best if we made the lynch today between me and him because I am from this point probably never dropping this tunnel. There is no way I will ever believe he would post something like this as town. I'll explain why. GB's weird assumption is that I have to apply the same standards of believing in everything he says. This is obviously not the case. There is absolutely no need for me to be consistent with what I believe and what I don't believe from GB because I'm valuing everything against what I think. In this specific scenario it goes like this: Show nested quote +On April 07 2015 21:41 Palmar wrote:
Like to be clear, I BELIEVE you when you say you were not trying to stop the discussion. I have never questioned that. I believe this because if he was actually trying to stop the discussion his attempt was incredibly futile. If he was indeed trying to stop them I'd have expected him to try a much more authoritative tone. "Stop this now guys", or something to that effect. Because his post doesn't really sound like he is actually trying to stop them arguing, I believe him when he says that he wasn't trying to stop them. In this case, his story (I wasn't trying to stop them) is consistent with what I believe (his post didn't look like he was trying to stop them) so I believe him. The reason I assumed he had been trying to stop them before he clarified, was simply that was the only reason I could think of that would make him post that. The other one: Show nested quote +On April 07 2015 23:02 Palmar wrote:On April 07 2015 22:16 GlowingBear wrote:On April 07 2015 22:06 Vivax wrote:
You just said you don't think he's mafia wtf... Because I thought he was nitpicking just to generate discussion. Since he isn't, and since he thinks I was posting just to post, I am reevaluating my position. He is calling me Mafia for a single post I've made without evaluating my overall gameplay. More than this, he is calling me Mafia for something that is null indicative and that other players have been doing (ritoky, for example). He is having a groundless tunnel and double standards by parroting Damdred. It fits perfectly the Mafia partner that comes to defend his buddy from a call out, discrediting the other player I don't agree with the bolded. If you read my biggest post, and a followup after that, it's clear that I don't believe you were trying to be funny. It is super clear that ritoky's opening posts are trying to be funny/trolling. That's the difference. I know why ritoky posted. I don't know why you posted. Here I DON'T believe he was trying to be funny or incite a response. The reason is the same as before. When I read his post it simply doesn't sound to me like he is trying to be funny. It sounds lazily exasperated to me. In this case, his story (I was trying to be funny) is inconsistent with what I believe (the post wasn't funny, didn't look like it was meant to be funny) so I don't believe him.
Now everything above should of course not really have required an explanation, but I wanted to be extra thorough because this isn't getting the consideration it should. There is no way GB actually thinks that calling me out on being inconsistent with whether or not I believe him, when he knows it's perfectly natural to question some things people say and not question other things, is actually a valid thing to do. There is no reason for him to do this unless he is mafia. I am certain.
On April 09 2015 08:41 Palmar wrote:Final attempt to push GB: Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 13:46 GlowingBear wrote:
I have to sleep. I'll post my reads once I wake up He's been away for almost 20 hours. Whatever he does he knows it's going to be worthless with the euros gone to sleep when he finally shows up. He doesn't care who we lynch today. Also. Go to his filter and look for any recent insights/reasoned reads. He has exactly one. Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 13:09 GlowingBear wrote:On April 08 2015 12:08 rsoultin wrote:On April 07 2015 13:32 GlowingBear wrote:On April 07 2015 13:28 GlowingBear wrote:On April 07 2015 13:27 Holyflare wrote:On April 07 2015 13:26 GlowingBear wrote:
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh. more reads more knowledge more winning why so sad? Because deja vù  By the way, I'm vigi again. Tell me your scumread so I can shoot him at night and shout at you all game long This is actually what you like to do when you're mafia. Tease obi. Explain this please, GB ^^ HF as Mafia would tease obi in order to guarantee a shitfest. He enters in an argument with obi, obi gets angry because HF is nitpicking him and gives up / start arguing with HF in an useless discussion, disorganising town. Check Hearthstone Mafia for a precedent. Everything else is "tease" reads and questions. Few examples of reads that either aren't really explained or him just asking random questions: Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:On April 08 2015 13:39 Eden1892 wrote:On April 08 2015 13:32 GlowingBear wrote:On April 08 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:On April 07 2015 13:26 GlowingBear wrote:
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh. I know this has been talked about already but: GB what was the point of this? HF and Obi looked like they were joking and then you suddenly seemed really seriously upset about it. You went on to say something about "deja vu" but I dunno what you're referencing. This post seemed a bit out of place so... what's goin on here? On April 07 2015 13:37 Damdred wrote:
No seriously what's the point of you pushing on hf when he's trying to get information out of someone. So what the thread took a serious turn you just drew the conversation away from potential information into more joking.
I don't see why a town would want less information in thread at this point. This is similarly weird because I didn't see how HF was trying to get information out of anyone or doing anything really but fucking around. And I don't see how GB turned the conversation back to joking around? In fact it was kinda the opposite, GB got serious in a way that felt a bit off tonally when HF was joking around with Obi. On April 07 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:On April 07 2015 13:55 Damdred wrote:On April 07 2015 13:48 GlowingBear wrote:On April 07 2015 13:44 Damdred wrote:On April 07 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:
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Serious turn? They were joking at each other. How can the "wambulance" gather useful information?
The most serious post here was about HF teasing obi. You disagree with this? My post is the most serious. But you jumped in instead of seeing where it would go Damdy, I made a joke. I didn't ask them to stop talking. You're nitpicking something that has no significance. You also avoided answering my question. Why? which part? How obi hash left the thread after you interjected and called hf mafia somewhat? We lost information idk what question I'm avoiding I asked what you think of what I said about HF teasing obi. I don't understand what kind of information you were expecting from that discussion. Also, if you think that HF was getting information out of obi and that obi took the chance to get out of the thread because I said HF is mafia, do you think obi is mafia? This is a pretty good sequence IMO by GB. Damdred never answers this from what I can see in his filter, there's this half-answer in Damdred's post when he returns but it's not really a direct response. I think that makes Damdred a little suspicious because his initial assessment about what GB was doing was wrong and it looks like he was just taking the chance to pile on GB when he could. Based on these posts GB is actually probably town and Damdred is slightly suspicious. I haven't gotten to the part where everyone decided GB is mafia but I already think it's wrong, so that could be fruitful. I had nothing in mind when I posted that, I just thought it was a funny thing to point out. The déjà vu thing is exactly that: I always see them engaging that kind of argument. So, after these considerations of yours, what are your updated reads? You are probably town, Vivax looks alright, Palmar looks not so good, Damdred looks not so good. Das it mayne Explain to me why Vivax looks alright now and why you scumread him before Question. Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 10:18 GlowingBear wrote:
This game is boring. I stated two or three times that Eden has problems in his scumreads and nobody asked me why.
Nobody is really trying to play this, sadly. Unexplained read. Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 08:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Rasputin, Dread, obi and Vivax: reads so far? question. Only what, not why Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 04:27 GlowingBear wrote:On April 08 2015 04:24 Koshi wrote:
No it isn't. I also have no opinion on Eden. Maybe a slight townread. But hey. Not posting doesn't help him. It is. Eden has posted very content less posts, but palmar treats him differently. This double standards reinforces the scenario where palmar is Mafia. Oh and I forgot about this. Yet another instance of GB accusing me of something I'm not doing. Eden was posting posts with no content at the beginning, but I know why he posted them, which is why they didn't jump out to me. I think I know why he posted popcorn, why he trolled around etc. I also think I know why ritoky posted pictures. I understand those. GB's post is just different.
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Eden don't jerk around the thread like that its kind of rude and just confuse the thread.
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On April 12 2015 05:56 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 05:55 Palmar wrote:
I claim town vigi again. Will submit a kill on myself tonight if GB flips town. This is 100% true. i know you're mostly joking here but can you shoot again?
I have 200 shots.
Too bad it's only one per night. or I'd murder everyone.
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On April 12 2015 05:27 Palmar wrote:
I think we should lynch GB because Damdred is busing him so hard. In fact, they're double busing each other, it's great.
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GivememylynchIwantmylynchwhywontyougivememyfuckinglynchIreallywantitsocanIhaveitpleasepleasepleaseplease
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On April 12 2015 05:48 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 05:47 Palmar wrote:On April 12 2015 05:46 Koshi wrote:
There is no reason to be such an ass Palmar. Okay. Give me my lynch. I'll shut the fuck up and be a good townie after that. You can even lynch me regardless of what he flips. Nha. I just understood why everybody thinks Eden is town. Hmm. It really points at you being mafia btw.
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On April 12 2015 05:58 Damdred wrote:
Eden don't jerk around the thread like that its kind of rude and just confuse the thread.
koshi asked
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I wrote multiple cases and shit, but people instead lynched a random smurf like the shitty cattle they are.
Holyflare is mafia. Lynch him, shoot him, burn him. Don't let him bullshit his way to day 5 or something like he always fucking does
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On April 12 2015 06:01 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 05:48 Koshi wrote:On April 12 2015 05:47 Palmar wrote:On April 12 2015 05:46 Koshi wrote:
There is no reason to be such an ass Palmar. Okay. Give me my lynch. I'll shut the fuck up and be a good townie after that. You can even lynch me regardless of what he flips. Nha. I just understood why everybody thinks Eden is town. Hmm. It really points at you being mafia btw.
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Hum about time you claimed if your town. Did this yesterday and i might believe you instantly
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Ritoky said he would come back within the hour.
2 hours ago.
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Like town veg has to cc here or your retarded. I have more information then you do. It may be a trap!
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On April 12 2015 06:02 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +I wrote multiple cases and shit, but people instead lynched a random smurf like the shitty cattle they are.
Show nested quote +Holyflare is mafia. Lynch him, shoot him, burn him. Don't let him bullshit his way to day 5 or something like he always fucking does
doesn't count. HF had aids instead of a brain. He deserved to be called mafia.
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oh, everyone townreads me if I claim vigilante? Sure let's hard claim it then.
I hard claim town vigilante.
There. Now I'm gone to sleep.
Lynch GB. I'm cleared and shit so you should all sheep me.
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Ok no. With this claim two things happen here. we kill Gb or we kill palmer
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if no one cc's ill heard the cattle onto gb. have a nighty night
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GB is not mafia. Literally 0 townies that died thought GB had the slightest chance of being mafia.
I read his filter.
HE IS NOT MAFIA.
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I don't care about his claim, believing Palmar in his current state is like trusting a dog who's frothing from the mouth. Then he rescinds it, nobody punishes him and we're back to oldschool scumhunting, like it's supposed to be done.
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On April 12 2015 06:06 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 06:02 Vivax wrote:I wrote multiple cases and shit, but people instead lynched a random smurf like the shitty cattle they are.
Holyflare is mafia. Lynch him, shoot him, burn him. Don't let him bullshit his way to day 5 or something like he always fucking does doesn't count. HF had aids instead of a brain. He deserved to be called mafia.
lol
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