i'll actually have no work...no work...that sounds like a fantasy o.0
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i'll actually have no work...no work...that sounds like a fantasy o.0 | ||
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I think i'm irish but daddy is a mutt without a pedigree (i.e. he has no clue about his own ancestry) so we just guess based on his last name lol my maternal grandmother is pure british...not sure how her family managed to only marry british people until her when the family has been here since the U.S. was colonized but...kudos to them I guess? so does this mean I get to drink with y'all? -makes puppy dog eyes- | ||
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<3 yeah I don't know about American demographics -shrugs- all sorts of peeps hi peeps | ||
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On March 16 2015 05:48 ExO_ wrote: yo rsoultin what was with your strange tactics towards me in SK mafia. :/ Sorry, dude. I bounce around a lot on SK to get people talking. Do the same here usually until I get a good read on someone. (Or a bad one I think is good lol) Not really sure what you're asking though since it's been awhile since we've played together ^^ On March 16 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote: Can I policy lynch ExO and or Tfrel if they don't make a case in the first 48 hours into the game? lol you can do whatever you want, but I probably won't join you if the reason's just that xP | ||
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On March 16 2015 09:21 ExO_ wrote: We died on the same night!! Perhaps you dont remember I'm SB there Lol! I know xP You seem to think that was strange, but it's actually not for me (at least not nowadays) is what I'm saying lol ^^ I just remembered you being more productive as town than you were in our SK game It wasn't personal. | ||
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If people try to metaread me again I may throw a Robik-level fit lol...if I'm even capable of that ^^ All you guys have proven is that you DO NOT KNOW how to metaread me xP | ||
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I feel the most sympathetic toward the scum team...especially if any of the players play scum like I do and actually read the game xP mrrrrrt Horn was a bitch and I was super busy that week...and lol that was a mini geript thinks he plays better when he doesn't post as much and just analyzes xP he's probably right there's this rule...in science...damn I need to google the word isn't coming...not the Hawthorne Effect but kinda the same principle...by the very act of interacting with others you change their behavior? in my case i'm too blunt/direct often which is something i'm trying to change...not be quite so obvious where my head's at if it causes players to play differently than they would otherwise | ||
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it does look like a similar concept, though nah, it's specifically related to scientists observing people or animal behavior, and that behavior changing because of the knowledge that the scientists are there...:/ I just can't remember the name of it I think it was in reference to gorillas originally? | ||
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this is an unintentional by-product of the fact that you're studying something and they're aware of your presence...implies a subject of more intelligence than molecules truffle is talking about how you can't be perfectly precise (the better your measurement in one dimension, the less accurate in another, essentially) >< I've completely derailed this thread now lol | ||
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like that assumes people act better which wasn't really what I was after lol >< | ||
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and the one i'm talking about was not necessarily human specific, but damn if I can actually find the reference >< | ||
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that's closer than hawthorne but still not it :/ lol well >> I haven't taken physics since...um...good lord...I want to say 2001-2002? and I don't remember that principle in there but that's not saying much 13-14 years later lol | ||
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like I swear hawthorne and Rosenthal/pygmalion were part of my management course in behavioral science...though I guess this is behavioral science... it's just not the right one lolol i'll go with truffle's observer effect - related to the uncertainty principle for now -flops on truffle-' and here's hoping i'm not making some random principle/law up and haven't just sent everyone on a wild goose chase for something that doesn't exist xP | ||
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it's entirely possible that I may just a little bit overthink things >> | ||
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THAT WOULDN'T BREAK THE GAME AT ALL lol | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + <3 you HTS; loosen up xP | ||
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I do not bake you send me some cake, i'll send you the best ribs you've ever had CULTURAL EXCHANGE and by that I mean food poisoning by the time the food gets there lolol | ||
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Can't let them know you're my mason partner! | ||
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or somehow thought people would expect to replace in without a role pm -rolls around the thread- xP | ||
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I may survive past night one this game! | ||
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BH and his RNG gods >> | ||
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so i have a confession to make >> << i was enjoying the song on the first page -bebops- and have never watched this movie -gaspmurmurgaspshemustbescumomgmurmur- | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:10 Superbia wrote: Actually I'm going to take a very counter intuitive stance. Due to the semi-closed role set up in the OP, I believe there are multiple towns in this game. o.0 BLASPHEMY! | ||
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so fast :/ | ||
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hf wasting no time are you a slam whisperer? i thought i had him pegged but i was right and wrong at the same time so back to being not so sure after just a page or two of posting lol | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:25 Eden1892 wrote: Yeah and HF is already catching mafia so we can hang out like we didn't get to last game. Sup? Sup. + Show Spoiler + You know that I don't have an insta-read on you right? lol You tried to pocket me when you were scum ;o; meanie | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:29 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Yea but we can pretend you do cuz I'm town. Also how did that work out for me? Pretty sure I became the foil for Damdred's "Best Analysis of the Year" award + Show Spoiler + You scumread him lol >> heyheyhey so no one has posted about your entrance yet. you disappoint? | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:32 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + All I'm sayin is, 100% of the time I pocket you I get wrecked d1. Bad play, never getting repeated And nah, I been in the limelight too much last game, it's no fun even being a flagrant attention whore lmao People will eventually see your towniness I'm sure + Show Spoiler + I'm not concerned. I only ever get mislynched in LYLO xP (nor have i ever seriously needed anyone's help except in that game ><) | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:33 sicklucker wrote: 3 times you have said this and 3 times I have asked myself if this is the time its not true. But it never is o.0 sicklucker have you become rational? o.0 | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:35 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + I was about to ask for your magic but it might be a curse in my case :o Who's mafia right now to you? I'm not actually reading this game yet + Show Spoiler + Lol, I've gotten better at Day 1 reads, but really? Truffle was an anomaly ^^ Damdy's eager to find those scumlets today though lol. Lucky us they're all posting in the first hour of the game | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:43 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + I read only like 2 posts and I think HF might be right about Slam. Didn't you tell me once you could read him reasonably well? + Show Spoiler + Slam? I just misread him in the last big...and read him correctly in the last completed mini. Not enough posts yet lol but yes, generally i can get a read on him easier than the majority of the players here | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:49 Damdred wrote: Heres the thing that i'm struggling with on this initial slam scum read even though I agree with it in principle, I recently played a game with slam over at another site and he played like this there as town. It gives me a bit of pause at this juncture, also Slam went against quite possibly the hardest hitting player in the thread because he thought he was getting railroaded early. I think that's kind of towny coming from slams position rather than just straight omgus. He still looks a bit scummy because of his seriousness but this post reads sort of towny to me. oh damdy...this may be my first ever early townread on you <3 don't make me ;o; later pyp, slam was serious there was probably another but i can't remember it is not a 100% scumtell for him | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:50 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + where are you at with him so far? also I felt like sicklucker's post to slam was talking at him rather than to him but that might be a stretch + Show Spoiler + sicklucker i am notoriously bad at reading :/ but the more he makes sense the more nervous i get lolol | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:53 sicklucker wrote: altho shes annoying thats my town read on her ... okay, sicklucker, that's part of eden's read on me, for one, and secondly it is easily replicated xP i did it through titantic and slacked off after eden died >> i don't for a second believe that you actually read me this way since you've never mentioned it before -_- | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:57 sicklucker wrote: Then why would I say it? I say 90% truths when im mafia even Precisely because you know it will ring true with Eden since it's his way of reading me to begin with xP | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:58 Trfel wrote: Well, I already claimed mafia, so I'm probably going to lurk for a while. I'll come back when you guys get on the right track to make sure I can get townies lynched. Have fun. Duuuuude, if you troll all game >< Like, seriously, conversation has started. Your post has served it's purpose if you're town. You don't need to keep harping at it unless you've just got nothing else to say. | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:01 sicklucker wrote: Hey rsoultin + Show Spoiler + crazy theory but maybe we developed the same read from playing with you? because it is or was a correct read? I was not in or followed games where you and eden played + Show Spoiler + that's possible xP it's not a very rational way of reading someone which kinda falls into your wheelhouse, but I still find it weird you only mention it now after the several games we've played together | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:02 Eden1892 wrote: nope i don't think you're annoying when you're town get wrecked sicklucker trying to piggyback my rsoul reads i thought he was talking about the emoticons? was it the emoticons, SL, or me being annoying? cause if it was me being annoying i misunderstood and that sounds exactly like you lol >< | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:05 rsoultin wrote: i thought he was talking about the emoticons? was it the emoticons, SL, or me being annoying? cause if it was me being annoying i misunderstood and that sounds exactly like you lol >< sicklucker, answer please | ||
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so i've got a problem here you're saying you don't know eden's read on me, that you haven't read those games but you specifically asked him about emoticons when you asked about his read you're lying to us sicklucker :/ over something that is not at all important | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:14 Eden1892 wrote: yessssss LAL sheep me sheeping you sheeping me onto sicklucker lol i'm inclined to also makes me less happy about that slam lynch you've got going HF | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Hi guys! I'm town! And I may or may not have a particular role of particular significance! INTRIGUE!!!! hi useless -sits on VE's head- you're almost as useless as Truffle right now. should i make a useless corner? | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:20 sicklucker wrote: I heard about it somewhere but I never saw the context or the game like when I brought it up I was asking a question . That emocon thing? Because I vaguely heard it (from you) but I dont know anything about it. Once again you guys take the smallest qeustion and turn it into something so annoying. I dont see what your angle is here this is not something I would lie about as either alignment. Its not alignment indignitive, hmmmmmm i'm gonna give you the bod right here, cause half that conversation between me and you took place with me thinking you were saying something you weren't and you probably assuming i was talking about the annoying bit lol@angle xP | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:21 Holyflare wrote: also we 100% lynch this guy because he was in horn and read the game so knows everything about what they are saying he was in horn? oh modkilled lol i think he was modkilled before eden brought his "amazing" emoticon read xP | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:22 Holyflare wrote: no don't give him the benefit of the doubt since this quote proves he is 100% a liar o.0 memory debunked nice catch HF lol...also light townread to you for looking that one up in the middle of the argument with slam | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:25 Eden1892 wrote: i literally said that before he did .__________. i didn't cite the exact game but this is MY point and MY lynch >> eeeeden don't be a wet blanket lol who said it first doesn't negate the fact that HF bothered to look it up while otherwise occupied xP | ||
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i really have to stop responding to these comments lol | ||
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you are at least making me laugh this game xP | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote: Nope, I made it after I knew my role. Not like the geript vote. ...truuuufffllleee ;o; please tell me you're not scum this game. you know how i like to bounce ideas off you tell me the two reasons i'm thinking you're possibly scum (hint: one i've already alluded to and the other has to do with the post I just quoted) | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:43 Trfel wrote: You probably think I'm scum because: 1. I'm ignoring the entire thread, and instead being useless and distracting the people who are playing the game properly. This is valid. 2. If you have a reason to scumread me other than that, I think it's terrible? Are you thinking of meta based on my opening in Student Mafia V? For the record, I've only skimmed the game so far, I haven't read it in detail at all. Pretty close. You're pursuing an opener that as town would be to generate discussion. Yet clearly the game is well underway, but instead of including your own input you just refer back to your opener. The second isn't meta. In fact, I never once suggested that your opener being made before or after your role PM has a thing to do with your alignment o.0 So your response came back as overly defensive...in fact I specifically said that your opening post was not why I thought you might be scum. | ||
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If Palmar is actually town this game he is breaking a pretty long trolling streak as town. Not impossible but lol | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:59 Superbia wrote: K. What's the thing on SL? He lied hard about another game or something? Pls enlighten. couple things, but yeah, essentially he gave a quick townread on me lol which i only accept from certain people and rarely consider alignment indicative xP he is not generally someone i'd expect to townread me this early (that's one of the other things) | ||
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yes, this is so | ||
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On March 19 2015 10:03 Trfel wrote: Like Superbia said, it would really be nice to know how many mafia are in this game. Is it 4 or 5? Edeeeeen I'm feeling a Truffle tunnel coming on >< like no shit almost as strong as the Student V read Truffle tunnel am i wrong? | ||
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lol i'm having trouble cause i tell him why i'm scumming him and he keeps on doing the same shit and part of me thinks that Truffle's not stupid enough to keep doing the same shit when that's what i'm scumreading him for :/ thanks for the seal, eden, but i think i'll keep my vote where until I have a strong feeling one way or the other about those two | ||
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ftr Truffle does post giant-ass posts as either alignment, and he's been pretty damn lazy as town lately...but lazy != useless which I'd argue is what he's being this game thus far | ||
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On March 19 2015 12:49 Toadesstern wrote: not sure yet. People can be wrong, that includes HF saying he's mafia and me saying he's unreadable that early in the game. Could be anything so far. HF pointing out that I play different is somewhat townish because as people pointed out I indeed am playing differentish (I guess) and I don't think a lot of people would actually doublecheck that so he's forgiven for that unlike Palmar who's doing it on purpose. Toad, you've been on this a lot. What makes you think that it makes Palmar mafia? | ||
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On March 19 2015 13:01 Eden1892 wrote: good lord i'm at 5pg filter already i'm not talking for the rest of the night + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + lol you realize we're going to make reading our filters a bitch to the rest of the players this way, right? xP that said, I'm comfortable giving you a day 1 town pass at this point congrats | ||
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On March 19 2015 13:02 Alakaslam wrote: oh. Rereading stuff, I think it actually doesn't. I'm never quite as smart as I claim. this reminds me a little of that bitchfight you had with palmar before realizing that the thing you were scumreading him for was wrong -flops on- you're not giving me those icky scum vibes lol that makes me happy your interpretation of the issues with SL was wrong though xP | ||
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On March 19 2015 13:05 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + my filters are always a bitch to the rest of the players WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO! mafia is super fucked now that we 100% on the same page what movie did you go see? + Show Spoiler + Was watching Guardians so references don't go over my head lol xP they prolly still will i think i've already forgotten half the movie o.0 | ||
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On March 19 2015 13:05 Toadesstern wrote: Actually I'm back to lynching Palmar but good that you ask, I was about to explain it once more in more detail anyways:
The chances of Palmar getting in here and saying that, without checking after what happened to him and me in Hammertime when we both were town are literally 0% if he is town and wasn't just trolling or trying to get reactions. HF and everyone else whatever but Palmar would not just post that without at least giving one second of a thought about it and doublechecking after singlehandedly ruining a game because of a "Toad feels weird" read he did recently. No way. Not possible. Palmar is mafia ##vote Palmar eh i guess i could see you believing this but frankly, here's the deal 1. I don't think he's more likely to ping you as mafia, since you and he were not the only ones involved in that hammertime mislynch xP in fact, I'd say he's actually less likely to do so 2. Tonally the words you added this game make that post read way over the top. I don't know you from Adam ^^ so i can't toneread you on it, but there definitely is enough of a difference to merit someone saying something. Yes, even Palmar. i think you may very well be town, but that this doesn't make Palmar mafia -shrugs- | ||
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how about you read and explain it to me. ise all ears -waits expectantly- ^^ | ||
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On March 19 2015 13:13 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + ohhh, duh. lol. ya it seems pretty silly but i haven't actually watched it. i just wikipedia'd some references so i could make a funny miller fakeclaim. could be a fun movie to watch tho i guess soooo i kinda think slam is town now. thoughts? + Show Spoiler + xP I know I've gotten progressively less explicit on my reads the last several games, but you honestly can't tell? lol | ||
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On March 19 2015 13:15 Bill Murray wrote: voting palmar placeholder seriously? less than 12 hours into a 48 hour phase? lol look at this joker | ||
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lol -sits on onegu's head- mine was totes better xP unless you can demonstrate the validity of your formula by applying it to past slam games | ||
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On March 19 2015 13:20 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + ok fine that was a useless question lol. serves me right for playing smash and mafia at the same time how good are you at reading LS? it's dawning on me i'm not actually especially good at it :/ not sure what to think of his earlygame. it's typical LS but something about the thing he said with Slam in his intro bugged me a bit + Show Spoiler + I always understand exactly what he's saying xP which i think is half the problem most people have in reading him. But I don't have a read on him yet this game. Not making the JOAT mistake again lol | ||
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On March 19 2015 13:22 ExO_ wrote: Right now I'm playing civ (im gonna be streaming actually) and it's too much to read. I made it through like 5 pages before I started skimming. I'm asking for somebody to point me in the right direction, b/c I haven't seen the reasoning yet. If that's too much to ask I'll get to it eventually. Sorry if I'm not willing to keep up the super hyper 24/7 level of activity. I'm trying to stay active with the thread still though despite this. Well most of the player base is voting him for lying multiple times? I honestly can see him forgetting things as either alignment lol my reasons are not really for that, though it doesn't help. Essentially his read on me and slam were both very quick, and he claimed not to be in the game where Eden first came up with reading me through emoticons, when he definitely was, and he was even in the thread when Eden did it. All in all, though...eh People forget things | ||
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On March 19 2015 13:20 Toadesstern wrote: about #1: That's exactly my point. He should not be so fast to just repeat the same mistake again. Yet he does while I'm pretty sure he should be smarter than this. You get why I think he's mafia? He's not doing this because he thinks that way but because he wants to push me for the sake of pushing me while ignoring everything he should have learned from last game because he's mafia Regarding 1, lol, voting people for being too "dumb" has more often lynched me town than scum like i said, if he's already made this mistake before it seems like a stupid play if he's mafia. not impossible but i don't think THAT ALONE is sufficient to call him mafia i get it i just don't put as much weight on it as you apparently do xP | ||
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On March 19 2015 13:35 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + that actually makes a ton of sense lol. you cool with me just making you my lightning whisperer this game? i got faith in your m4d r34d1ng ski11z + Show Spoiler + except my m4d r34d1ng ski11z are about as consistent as a tweenie picking out an outfit for a night out xP i'd rather get people to discuss my reads with me lol | ||
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On March 19 2015 13:38 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + lmao, aight then i'll give it my best. bear in mind i have a propensity to townread the shit out of ls regardless of what he actually does cuz he's adorable so idk if i'm the best springboard + Show Spoiler + lol, ah, i was talking about my reads in general. i also find ls ridic adorable <3 speaking of ls lol i'm gonna get on league for a bit and play my awesome lvl 10 account -shot- since i don't want you to freak out if i send you a pm, ls xP + Show Spoiler + Radannsun is the handle, whenever you want to play ^^ | ||
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leaving y'all with this; just popped up on my pandora lol | ||
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On March 19 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote: Why you gotta be spreading falsehoods why I replaced out Eden tsk tsk tsk. Anyway <3 bm just don't fake claim a cop/tracker this game. I've got to sleep. But seriously I am sorta liking where trfels head is so far, its not that hard seeing the thought process so far and where she's going. So that is a good thing. Reminder to self read toads filter. also hopefully ve and vivax do stuff tommorow lol damdy with your gender mixups lol >< truffle = he rsoul = she bm = don't know yet badumdum ve made a post earlier that was eh...forget what it was but no me gusta and nada since exo didn't follow up when he should have if he really cared about that sl wagon xP boyo you're disappointing me yeah, i'm out for the night unless anyone wants to talk about anything specific | ||
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On March 19 2015 14:55 Fecalfeast wrote: I sexually identify as an apache attack helicopter o.0 lol FF...are you high again? xP | ||
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you've made it onto my no-lynch list...helicopter man... | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I presently want to lynch Fecalfeast the most. touch him today and I may vote you out of spite xP + Show Spoiler + or one of the more likely to flip scum, but who's keeping track >> | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:04 Breshke wrote: hey guys caught up bresh? | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Nah I like him as a lynch. Why are you townreading him? You don't get to threaten me with lynch without explaining your read. His filter is fucking garbage, there's a full page of nothing in there. I don't have many posts, but virtually all of them contain my reads and thoughts on the game. lol i can do whatever i want xP "no-lynch list" boyo. i'm precise. reading also helps lolol | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:09 Breshke wrote: nope just started a little ago. Eden seems townie which makes you seem towny Like this post is very similar to posts ive seen eden make as town havnt really seen him play scum (like once) idk if he gives townreads that easily. Even so it's a good read but idk how relevant this is at this stage haha. Is there anything i should look at right now? else im just going to keep going from where i am. lol he's never scumread me when i'm town as either alignment so keep reading. nah, fresh eyes are best if you intend to read the whole thing anyway; i won't pollute you with bias before you've even started | ||
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boring filter your reads are more or less mirroring mine for the moment, though, apart from FF...FF is such a copout vote at this stage lol xP and i think you know it | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:13 VisceraEyes wrote: K well do whatever you want then. Over there. I'll win the game over here. With or without you. <3 woooooow the balls on this one xP have you read yet? | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:13 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + too late you've already convinced him we're town + Show Spoiler + that was actually you tonereading me on my first post lolol xP you can milk it a little for dramatic effect next time >> i give you permission | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:21 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + what, just a toneread dazzled him with our towniness? i'm not that charming, am i? + Show Spoiler + lol you're sexy as hell but yeah that's way too early to read you xP i don't think bresh realizes you have an r-soulread xP | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:27 VisceraEyes wrote: I have reasons for all of my townreads, available on request, though if you agree with them I don't see the point. Like seriously, how is it a copout vote? It's not - it's a vote based on my observation. A bunch of people are in here trying to figure out the game. FF doesn't look like one of them to me. your observation is he has a crap filter xP but he picked up on a post of eden's that everyone else glossed over, and it's the sort of thing i'd expect him to key on as town no offense to FF or anything, but he doesn't tend to keep on topic regardless lol and i know that you're aware of this. you were playing with him when he was still in his lazy ass policy lynch/vig slump | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:32 Bill Murray wrote: "but he doesnt tend to keep on topic" (referring to fecal) i disagree with this FF keeps on topic enough to have made me laugh thrice. THRICE. -squints at- so you are the famous bm xP if this post was supposed to have a point you'll need to highlight it for me lol | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:32 VisceraEyes wrote: Well that's perfectly reasonable, and why I asked you. See? Cooperation! I do know that, but I'm not willing to put someone on a no-lynch list for it. As I said, it's too easy and mafia and town do it in equal measure. But from MY experience with FF that's laced with in-game nuggets. You picked up on one I missed because YOU are having a little thing with Eden and that's fine. ?? lol what does my having a thing with Eden have to do with FF? xP dude i totally said why i wasn't lynching him today a couple posts before you asked me. i don't mind elaborating, but repeating myself on the same page -twitches- | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:42 VisceraEyes wrote: To be fair, I may not have read it because I was filtering at the time and just reaction posting in the thread. Anyway, just bear with me - I just spent 3 hours mentoring on a video mafia stream, I thought filtering selectively would be a more efficient use of my time. I ticked you off as town earlier on for something so you weren't someone I was filtering XD fair enough...i'll leave you to your filtering then ^^ | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:46 VisceraEyes wrote: But why the fruit of it so far has led me to someone on ur no-lynch list XD now you don't really expect me to reveal my super cool secrets, do you? don't let me distract you...if you can't figure out that context is important i'm sure we'll have words again later >> | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:49 Eden1892 wrote: he seems like he cares i admit i'm probably sleeping on his scum game, but my experience with it in imperial was... less than stellar. i'm not convinced superbia is a player who can get motivated to play scum very easily given his comments in this game, and he seemed pretty engaged when he was here. where do you have him? eh wasn't a fan of his entrance, warmed up to him a little as he posted but he's a solid null for me currently lol wasn't he the one who admitted to carrying his scum team before? xP | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:47 Breshke wrote: im probably going to go have a sleep or at least take a break from reading im really tired from uni but got a few things first. So i really like this post. Basically what i think slam is saying which is what i think is that SL can say stupid things but it doesn't make him mafia. He obviously read the emoticon thing in horn and is just remembering wrong like he even thinks he was mafia in that game. This is similar to JOAT where he claimed to make all these reads in the thread that he actually hadn't. What does SL get out of this emoticon argument as in saying it wasn't a read eden made on rsoul or he wasn't in that game or w/e. The answer is nothing. If anything makes SL scum its that for the part of the game ive read he has done nothing but seemingly try to piss slam off plus have a random read on rsoul. I also like this from slam. Him and Hf are going at it and slam tries to bring other peoples opinions into it. Feels more townie because if he is town he doesn't have the fear of people analyzing his posts. Can't read slam for shit though so not putting much into this other than I wouldn't vote for him yeah, i agree, the "lie" doesn't seem like a good reason to have him as scum i've got more than just that, including those quick reads on slam and myself...lol >< sl may have gotten better at reading me, but we usually butt heads more first before he decides he hates me but i'm probably still town xP | ||
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On March 19 2015 15:54 Eden1892 wrote: ya but who hasn't done that? i did it once and almost did it twice (shoutout to the homies bunnies and epishade, that was a good game). i'm more zeroed in on where he said he has less trouble getting up to play as town than as mafia mmm i dunnae...i think my problem was i liked where art was at lol and many of super's comments i simply didn't agree with at the beginning of the game lol >> we'll see. i'm not calling him scum, just not comfortable calling him town on something that flimsy | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + and play league but shhh xP anyway, it's late lol gnite folks | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:27 Trfel wrote: Which is exactly what mafia!Artanis[Xp] would want to do with suspicion on mafia!raynpelikoneet. I see why town!Artanis[Xp] would do exactly what you just did. And I think the chance that my comment actually means something isn't all that high. I'm just saying it to make sure I don't forget. When I miss something and it costs me the game (in this case, lost the game at 5p LYLO due to this), I want to make sure I don't make the same mistake again. yay truffle! yes yes yes...took me a second but i like how you related this back to our blunder in down under lolol also, liking hf more and more as time goes on...so you don't buy the palmar tell thing from rayn? | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:35 LightningStrike wrote: Town: Exo: He seemed to be his normal self some questions but I waiting for him to case someone at some point in the game after playing with him in Newbie LX. rsoultin: She seems to happy to roll Mafia this game I would think she would be Mad at rolling Mafia again esp with me in the game but she seems to be having fun with her posts so far (She rolled Mafia in Horns of Africa and Titanic) Also she died way to early in JOAT because of mean HTS wanting to get rid of her so she wouldn't figure HTS out in JOAT She also my whisper so listen to her on me. Holyflare: Some decent questions and plays similar to how he did in Horns when I played with him plus answering a meta point to me about Mafia!Rayn is more useless than Town!Rayn but idk what Rayn post would indicate that he's useless tbh :| Vivax: Vivax is Vivax and that means he just crazy but I think he's trying hard this game and more likely Town than Mafia upon the fact he's trying so hard but he's crazy so meh. Trfel: I finding his entrance odd but who the hell claims Mafia Day 1 except for Damdred in Imperial lol..... He got some decent questions and also can't wait for him to case someone even if he case the hosts (For those who didn't check Mini Mafia Down Under 2 he cased the host and it was funny as hell 10/10 would want him to case a host again). Bill Murray: Asking some decent questions and my first time playing with him and seems to engage with his Mafiaread of Eden and noticing some stuff I don't think others did at the time. Eden1892: Had some trolling stuff early on which I kinda expect from him as Town compared to Mafia with some decent questioning regarding me to rsoultin. Also his filter is much bigger than his filter as Mafia from experience playing with him. Superbia: Much more serious already and already down to business which I think makes him more Town than Mafia knowing in Campus was kinda trolling in Day 1 and was useless in Imperial. Breshke: Short filter but some of his questions ande thoughts to be something I would think he would do as Town more so than Mafia esp his little thing on sicklucker. Null: Damdred: Seems to be a his townie self but I remember he looked so townie yet he was Mafia in Titanic so I need another Day of him being alive to make a good read. Artanis: As I said earlier he looked so Townie in Imperial yet he was Mafia but he also had a bad game as Mafia in Student VI so idk I need some more time to figure him out prob by Day 2 since I know he's a player by reputation being one of the best players in TL Mafia. raynpelikoneet: Seems much angrier than normal idk if it's truely alignment indicative about him but HF says he's useless as Mafia compared to Town but his filter seems Palmar centric with some side tracks O_o Palmar: Trolling a good amount I don't think it's alignment indicative for him since he loves to troll as both alignment from my experience with him cept for Metal Mini when he was super serious. Alakaslam: Slam is Slam and I can't really read him and I know he's the true king of WIFOM as either alignemnt so meh. Onegu: Very short filter and not really doing much but I remember him being kinda meh as town compared to Mafia but I need some more posts from him. sicklucker: I can't read him anymore after Linux when he was Mafia and he always bounces off the walls as either alignment and did make some incorrect statements about self meta but he done that as either alignment. I think he becomes obvious Mafia at Day 2/3 area from my experience with him and seeing him playing as Mafia so I waiting for Day 2 to make my read on him. Fecalfeast: He not raging about his role with time and idk if it's alignment indicative for him from my experience with him being town :| Sorry for the long wait for my post I was updating it while checking the thread so I wouldn't be so lost and added in info while making the post! Lol and we have a town LS folks! -cuddles the LS- (you don't actually have to post about everyone when people ask you for your reads you know xP) | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:36 LightningStrike wrote: Also good morning rsoultin any thoughts so far? mmm mostly have already said what i'm thinking... i'll add that i like the way VE responded to me last night because I don't think I ever did...BM I'm not sure about (which I think I have mentioned) i'll prob consolidate reads later but i'm not for big list posts generally during the day lol let me go back through your reads again to see where mine differ yeah? | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:41 Vivax wrote: How is that list town. It's void of scumreads, it's like a big "DONT HURT ME PLS". lol viva it's not "town" it's "LS town" -shrugs- he's thought vomitting | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:35 LightningStrike wrote: Town: Exo: He seemed to be his normal self some questions but I waiting for him to case someone at some point in the game after playing with him in Newbie LX. rsoultin: She seems to happy to roll Mafia this game I would think she would be Mad at rolling Mafia again esp with me in the game but she seems to be having fun with her posts so far (She rolled Mafia in Horns of Africa and Titanic) Also she died way to early in JOAT because of mean HTS wanting to get rid of her so she wouldn't figure HTS out in JOAT She also my whisper so listen to her on me. Holyflare: Some decent questions and plays similar to how he did in Horns when I played with him plus answering a meta point to me about Mafia!Rayn is more useless than Town!Rayn but idk what Rayn post would indicate that he's useless tbh :| Vivax: Vivax is Vivax and that means he just crazy but I think he's trying hard this game and more likely Town than Mafia upon the fact he's trying so hard but he's crazy so meh. Trfel: I finding his entrance odd but who the hell claims Mafia Day 1 except for Damdred in Imperial lol..... He got some decent questions and also can't wait for him to case someone even if he case the hosts (For those who didn't check Mini Mafia Down Under 2 he cased the host and it was funny as hell 10/10 would want him to case a host again). Bill Murray: Asking some decent questions and my first time playing with him and seems to engage with his Mafiaread of Eden and noticing some stuff I don't think others did at the time. Eden1892: Had some trolling stuff early on which I kinda expect from him as Town compared to Mafia with some decent questioning regarding me to rsoultin. Also his filter is much bigger than his filter as Mafia from experience playing with him. Superbia: Much more serious already and already down to business which I think makes him more Town than Mafia knowing in Campus was kinda trolling in Day 1 and was useless in Imperial. Breshke: Short filter but some of his questions ande thoughts to be something I would think he would do as Town more so than Mafia esp his little thing on sicklucker. Null: Damdred: Seems to be a his townie self but I remember he looked so townie yet he was Mafia in Titanic so I need another Day of him being alive to make a good read. Artanis: As I said earlier he looked so Townie in Imperial yet he was Mafia but he also had a bad game as Mafia in Student VI so idk I need some more time to figure him out prob by Day 2 since I know he's a player by reputation being one of the best players in TL Mafia. raynpelikoneet: Seems much angrier than normal idk if it's truely alignment indicative about him but HF says he's useless as Mafia compared to Town but his filter seems Palmar centric with some side tracks O_o Palmar: Trolling a good amount I don't think it's alignment indicative for him since he loves to troll as both alignment from my experience with him cept for Metal Mini when he was super serious. Alakaslam: Slam is Slam and I can't really read him and I know he's the true king of WIFOM as either alignemnt so meh. Onegu: Very short filter and not really doing much but I remember him being kinda meh as town compared to Mafia but I need some more posts from him. sicklucker: I can't read him anymore after Linux when he was Mafia and he always bounces off the walls as either alignment and did make some incorrect statements about self meta but he done that as either alignment. I think he becomes obvious Mafia at Day 2/3 area from my experience with him and seeing him playing as Mafia so I waiting for Day 2 to make my read on him. Fecalfeast: He not raging about his role with time and idk if it's alignment indicative for him from my experience with him being town :| Sorry for the long wait for my post I was updating it while checking the thread so I wouldn't be so lost and added in info while making the post! Alright, adjusted your post here a little for legibility. mmmm I'd switch ExO_, Super, BM, Bresh and Viva with Damdred and FF not really comfortable calling the first five town just yet, though I'm actually warming up to Viva some | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:49 Superbia wrote: Like whatever, I'm done pussyfooting around this. RSO, are you masoned with Eden or what? nope lol eden's good at reading my tone xP almost completely because he coached me and then the next 3 games we rolled together one of us was scum in all honesty though, i'm probably one of the easiest tonereads in the game when people don't get too paranoid about me lol which is why i take a lot longer to read eden than the other way around | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:55 Superbia wrote: Are you serious? Like you guys were softing it so fucking hard. and you caaaare (or think we'd be behaving this way in-thread) becaaaauuuuse? like seriously why is this even important to you? lol i've also started talking to truffle and LS as if they're basically confirmed town cause in my mind they are maybe i'm a mason with them too >> world of masons! | ||
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On March 20 2015 00:05 Superbia wrote: Because I read you both as town because I thought you were masons. Eden is probably still town for sharing my thoughts, but I'm still somewhat unsure about you. don't care what you think xP lol but that makes sense as to why you'd care about us being masons i kinda like viva's point on you btw...but i don't think it necessarily makes you scum, just makes Viva observant. truffle is The Naysayer as town. it's actually one of several things that has me townreading him lol | ||
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On March 20 2015 00:16 LightningStrike wrote: HF said some things about Rayn earlier what's your take on it? i'm not getting strong town vibes from rayn either, tbh like i have certain ways of reading him when he's town xP that kind of fall in line with HF's "useless" claim, as well as a general way for both him and HF and basically any other player who would be good at scum lol involving pointless shitfights xP like i initially townread HF based on his fluidity while in the middle of the argument with slam cause he'll carry arguments on forever as scum whether they're important or not xP regarding rayn, i'm just not sure if his push at palmar was a pointless shitfight just yet. he seems to have gotten nothing from it. anyway lol, i think HF is better at reading rayn than most of the other players here (at least of my townreads) so he needs to come back and talk to me >< | ||
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On March 20 2015 00:33 Holyflare wrote: if you take away his pointless shit fight that is really just arguing about the semantics of palmars meta what exactly has he done? asked roundabout questions that make people do errands that he doesn't do anything with i'm sure he's going to come right back into the thread and call this bs and say but i gained this! but that's easy to lie about after i've pointed it out lol i don't disagree with you i'm missing his...hmmm read drop probing question style of play that i so enjoy xP not that he can't change his style. so you're not aware of any tell that he tries to get out of palmar early then? that was my main question | ||
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the whole "scumreading sicklucker for being sicklucker" thing is kinda the opposite from the truth. apart from his memory lapses (and i do believe they're memory lapses, because what does he gain as scum from lying?) he's made too much sense and made too little an impact for what i associate with a town sicklucker | ||
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On March 20 2015 00:46 Palmar wrote: I'm amazing at reading LS. But I usually do it by finding some single instance of a thing he just wouldn't say or do as mafia. fair enough ^^ i think i've seen you do that so what specifically about toad's entrance makes it different than his other entrances? | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:48 LightningStrike wrote: Also rsoultin! + Show Spoiler + I added you on LoL on my Level 6 smurf on NA fyi + Show Spoiler + what was the name? me and my lazy week lol i'll prob be playing today ^^ | ||
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On March 20 2015 00:59 rsoultin wrote: + Show Spoiler + what was the name? me and my lazy week lol i'll prob be playing today ^^ nvm found it ^^ hey, LS, i think this time you should sheep me, boyo also, totes not important but since you asked, eden, yes we've discussed my age before xP 26 | ||
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On March 20 2015 01:39 Holyflare wrote: rsoul where are you >> being a lazy ass playing games xP i'm reading, though speaking of which, my thing with toad was how specifically he changed his opening this time...though i wouldn't say that's enough to call him scum o.0 just over the top which to me usually = forced | ||
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On March 20 2015 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am sorry but thewn you are going to think i am mafia in every single game from now on because i was really shit on D1 in that game behaviorvise. lol yes you were shit xP but it's not that you were shit, it's how you were shit lol like i townread you and still didn't agree with your push i'm capable of separating the two | ||
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On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: i don't even know what you are saying now. out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process ^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point: your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why? lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from? | ||
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On March 20 2015 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: No i haven't done myers briggs type test. sicklucker & superbia scum for being the lest town in the thread besides damdred. And Toad, but that scumread i don't have any more. As for what i don't like on them, sicklucker mainly because he goes full "again this shit where people call me mafia" and then doesn't really talk about anything else, it's old, and it doesn't help him if he is town, and he should know that. Superbia because of what Vivax said. I just don't post everything i have in mind, especially if other people have said the same things before.... It's just useless and i don't care if people think i am scum for "not contributing" while to be fair noone should because i can play more laid back game and it usually even benefits me in thinking more rationally. I don't what you mean by your last sentence, i do not read you scum. tbf my perception of you is not as a lazy player who is content with two scumreads lol based on others' logic without using those reads to try to get reads on other people, too. granted i know you are now scumreading damdred as well, and that was originalish, but it wasn't impressive (i.e. your reasons were weak) my perception of you may be wrong, but hf apparently shares it -shrugs- | ||
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i'm not going to tell you specifically what you have to do to make me read you town (for obvious reasons) but i can definitively say you haven't done it yet and it has nothing to do with how much you have or haven't posted xP | ||
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On March 20 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + what's your mbti type? i am around but not caught up, and my other game i'm in got hella interesting, so i will probably be useless the rest of d1. sorry + Show Spoiler + lol can you guess? | ||
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On March 20 2015 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: well this discussion is obviously pointless. i was thinking you might say you think i am scum for some real reason but if there are none then i guess i can go do something else. -amused- the reason is simple. you are not being productive in the way town rayn is productive. the factors you are lighting on - posting or not posting - sheeping or not sheeping are inconsequential. it is how you are going about determining alignments. and no, you can't really argue against it. if i see what i'm looking for i'll move my vote | ||
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On March 20 2015 04:14 ExO_ wrote: Just woke up. I've skimmed the thread. And afterwards I was left with a huge question: Where did Eden run off to? And then I checked his filter and saw this: His posts threw out (strong) town reads like they were nothing. I didn't like his scum reads. And now he's just going to check out? What is this, get a large filter day 1 and then bow out while everyone else is arguing? It looks like scum to me. I was hesitant at first, but just deciding you've said enough for day 1 and aren't going to participate for the rest of the day is ridiculous. ##Vote: Eden Look at the rest of the forum ExO and it's obvious that this is not alignment indicative xP | ||
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On March 20 2015 04:25 ExO_ wrote: It might not be entirely. Hell I know how much I like to afk and be lazy about reading the thread. But I just find it impossible to believe you can have a 7 page filter when most people are at 2-3 pages at most, and then just leave. Even if the other game is getting really interesting. Right now it looks to me like a scum player saying "well I'm safe for day 1, now I'm out". Especially if he stays away, though I think by calling him out I make this less likely. So if he comes back I'll reevaluate him then. Quite simply in two games one will tend to take precedent over the other given the game state. This is not good enough. Give me your other reads ^^ (I will say that considering how you treated my "scum-flinging" in our newbie game, you may well believe that's a scumtell, but i think you need to adjust how you read people lol xP) | ||
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On March 20 2015 04:38 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + probably not. lol blind shot, xNTx. couldn't guess betwee J or P to save my life and I'm not sure if your extravertedness online transfers to RL + Show Spoiler + Not bad? INTJ lol...talkative once i get to know people but rarely before LS is right on ExO though...part of this argument i've seen from him before when he was town xP I don't think it's a good argument but i wouldn't say it makes him scum meh i've got a nasty headache...will be around later | ||
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On March 20 2015 06:19 LightningStrike wrote: Okay since no one is really asking me questions atm I finding it odd that sicklucker is giving a free townread to rayn when you shouldn't give free townreads do you guys finding that odd? lol that actually fits the crazy i know as SL xP tbh...it makes me less inclined to scumread him | ||
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On March 20 2015 07:11 Damdred wrote: I think ff case is good, and the points brought are decent. Like I do think it's bad LS is being lazy a bit here as has been pointed out I'm not sure it's worth a vote but it's something to think about simple logic damdred 1. ppl always bash ls for using meta on people he doesn't know/hasn't played with 2. he relies heavily on meta so y'all's conclusion is it's scummy for him to ask for meta reasons to support other people's reads on players he hasn't played with as that alignment? simple logic | ||
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On March 20 2015 07:12 Palmar wrote: To begin with I didn't even know ExO was playing the game sooo... also I don't know what your stance on him is, but I guess that would be a good thing. lol i prefer unbiased opinions yes ^^ | ||
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On March 20 2015 07:13 Fecalfeast wrote: better players that lose more often than me FF, i wasn't putting you in any particular category cool down lol i actually like your town play now that it's picked up | ||
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On March 20 2015 07:17 Palmar wrote: I kinda like him rsoultin. I don't know if his push on Eden is correct but he seems to believe it and is actually actively pushing it. The only thing that's kinda sketchy is that his response to Trfel's troll opening was massively tryhard. But I suppose that might just as well be a tryhard townie grasping at straws to talk about. thanks i've got him at null...the Eden thing seems to progress naturally to me as well, and from a townie perspective i can see him maybe struggling just as he suggested he was (being new and not knowing these players) and kinda floundering through the mess, then latching on to the one thing that sticks out to him my problem is just how little he's actually brought to the table - light townread on trfel for entrance - lying sl isn't alignment indicative (duh) - the eden push and i guess that i've been trying to pull him in and get him talking which he's blatantly ignoring lol so for those two things i'm having trouble townreading him, but others seem more sure, so i wanted a fresh pair of eyes | ||
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On March 20 2015 07:24 Damdred wrote: I think it shows more about ff align than LS at this point. I've seen LS do this all as town, but he is being lazy lol okay we're on the same page again xP | ||
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On March 20 2015 07:28 Palmar wrote: No, I think his recent posting has been nondescript. But I'm mad that he townread me and proceeded to ignore all the people interacting with my reads. Also I think the post where he defended slam but called him scummy anyway was a bit off. can you quote that? | ||
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okay damdy what did you find towny about that post ^^ (honestly i don't really see the problem with that post from damdred, palmar) | ||
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On March 20 2015 07:37 Palmar wrote: If slam is "still scummy because of seriousness" what the hell point is Damdred trying to make? Either Slam is scummy and should be lynched, or he's not scummy and should not be lynched. I don't know which one of the above Damdred is going for in this post, although I assume it's "he should not be lynched". I guess Damdy could be pulling a Palmar and hedging his bets so he doesn't look bad if slam is actually mafia (just like I'm now hedging my bet if damdred is town!) i'd have to double-check the context but i'm pretty sure he was the first one to interject what i would call cold water into that fight between hf and slam -shrugs- obviously the purpose was to say slam being serious doesn't necessarily make him scum which was nice to see actually cause i've seen a serious town slam too lol in pyp | ||
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On March 20 2015 07:45 Palmar wrote: Like how can you even think that is the purpose when damdred specifically says it isn't. Even if we somehow are all one happy town family, that still doesn't make your interpretation of the post correct. lol i'm a contextual person, Palmar. i can explain to you in detail where i get what i'm getting, but frankly, with damdy in the thread he should speak to it, not me | ||
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On March 20 2015 08:03 Damdred wrote: I haven't filtered anyone yet so all of my reads are from reading so it's subject to change. Breshke might be the lynch today. Total lack of thread prescense not involved in anything at this point extremely lurky. Sort of like his other suck games in that regard need to compare tones and content and filter length, Trfel is actually back on my radar since everything has stopped coming from that corner. But some of the earlier postings were good. Rayn is still on my radar for previous said things Sl I'm not sure he a obviously giving thoughts at this point. Super is interesting but need to reread filter meh Breshke most interests me at this moment though hmmmm so you want to go with what amounts to an inactive policy lynch on day 1? | ||
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On March 20 2015 08:09 Damdred wrote: Possibly, though I don't think breshke fits into that category especially with those first two town reads that he gave out what specifically about the town leans bug you? | ||
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eh i can see this, if only cause bresh really struggles playing scum/scumreading people, but my problem is his posts read okay(ish), i liked the slam post in general, and it's almost like you picked the shortest filter here lol i'd rather get a chance to talk to him when he's gotten caught up than vote him on so little he's really your top scumread right now? what do you think about the scumread hf and i have on rayn? | ||
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bresh i'm here talk to me ^^ there was a post and damn me if i can remember where...toad actually posted it with his earlier entrance right beside the entrance this game, and frankly...it wasn't like omg he's scum but it oozed a little lol so i don't see a huge problem with palmar pinging him on that | ||
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On March 20 2015 09:17 LightningStrike wrote: Hello rsoultin any thoughts so far on the recent stuff? lol LS xP if there's something you want to talk about, let me know? slam the man you're giving me the heebie jeebies :/ | ||
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On March 20 2015 09:24 Breshke wrote: I think i know what you are talking about but i was more referring to the fact that i felt like a town palmar would be more cautious about pining toad about similar things and would not drop it totally but not make it a focus. I really like trfels response to me though. Why do you think SL is town reading me. lol it's SL who the hell knows...on the surface it just looks like he's happy that someone's on his side xP ironically though almost everyone has said what you said | ||
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On March 20 2015 09:51 Alakaslam wrote: Understandable. I am being gone a lot; be gone, get lynched. I am here now. it's more the drive-by posting as i perceive it...or maybe a better term is thread temperature checks :/ | ||
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you are hurting my feelings lol rayn is under fire because of shtuff thangs and the other shtuff essentially: toneread | ||
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On March 20 2015 10:14 Superbia wrote: Can people comment on what I've said? Specifically regarding Damdred. Thanks. mmm i read it...and i don't even necessarily disagree that there may be scum in that triangle, but i dunnae. like yesterday i was getting a townie feel from damdy...(it's normal for him to just post reads as he goes until he latches onto something solid, usually after day 1 or at the very least not until close to the end of it, so y'all are high on that count xP) and a scummy feel from sl. since then damdy has dropped a little and sl has risen a touch...though i'd still say sicklucker has the best chance of the two flipping scum you...eh your posting irritates me this game so i'm reserving judgment xP the tone is grating which makes me predisposed to scumread you lol for no reason other than your tone grates on my nerves. mean of me to say, i know, but true ^^ | ||
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On March 20 2015 10:21 Superbia wrote: Eh, I can't help it. Just the way I post, I guess? IDK. Maybe Damdred is the lazy town. I just feel very deeply and pretty strongly that he's the hidden mafia. i need to revisit his filter. his thoughts were generally lining up with mine yesterday though is the thing :/ lol it may be the way you post. i don't remember always having a problem with it? regardless, it's not important right now | ||
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On March 20 2015 10:26 Superbia wrote: Yeah, that's the thing that bothers me though, interestingly enough. I was townreading him d1 as well because our thoughts lined up. But somehow he scum-reads me? Even though it's pretty clear our circles are somewhat similar. I don't think a player likes damdred does that if he's town. i think he said he liked viva's points on you but i'm not 100% on that...i'm prob gonna read some filters tonight instead of engaging too much in the discussions here, cause i think i've gotten most of what i'm going to get today lol at least until something else breaks out ^^ | ||
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On March 20 2015 10:27 Breshke wrote: Yeah the stuff with trefel i get like i see the thought process there but from then on there is nothing at all i like. RSo care to comment why you then think exo is town? Yeah exactly it doesn't make sense. In one of my few posts i even said that there WAS reasons to read him as scum. I don't understand why he would think im town enough to defend me. i'm not townreading ExO_? i agree with eden that the push on him seemed to develop naturally, but i've got problems with his play. he's at a null. and frankly he'd probably be lower except enough people have townread him off that little bit of nothing to give me pause and think i may be missing something he's also not accustomed to this active of a game, so i'm giving him a little leeway for that as well | ||
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>> >> LS is town + Show Spoiler + bad eden ;o; | ||
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On March 20 2015 10:39 Damdred wrote: I'm seemingly going to dominate the conversation for a hit perhaps. not lazy town if you said your time would be shorter than normal before game started so there is that to consider. This whole mess about me scum reading someone who I seemingly agree with on reads (two separate individuals now) is honestly stupid. Scum have perfect information and can legitimately throw town reads out so that circles match bus so scum reads match etc., it is insane to think that just because you have the same reads as someone that they are town without looking more into them. Your tone is different from your town game super, to me it sounds like you are angry/dicky towards certain people-shrug- its day one and I've barely done anything yet just because no need to yet and time is stressed. Now on the brighter side of the mafia world breahkes post read pretty genuine and his confussion on the SL town read and the way he's taking the scum read seem pretty good to me. I want to see a bit more bit perhaps not a good lynch anymor ^ lol still thinking the same as me on bresh ^^ nope don't wanna lynch this guy | ||
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On March 20 2015 10:40 Eden1892 wrote: what. no i don't agree with that. we gonna discuss this later. like i'll defer on exo cuz im biased as fuck about him after being mad at him earlier but i actually really believe in this ls thing -whispers- you'd still be wroooooong xP palmar agrees, too. historically palmar and i are the best at reading the ls | ||
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bresh is not a good lynch today over all the other players in the thread he's already got suspicions...that is a townie bresh in my experience, but you're right...if he doesn't keep it up of course we revisit | ||
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On March 20 2015 10:42 Eden1892 wrote: but palmar is null + Show Spoiler + stop baiting me into posting i need a break and u KNOW i cant just ignore your posts ughuisdhkhsldfg; + Show Spoiler + <3 I'm not 100% on palmar, but i liked the way he interacted with me, and lol yes i liked his read on LS >> i'll be good now and let you self-medicate or whatevs lol...you can play league with me? ^^ | ||
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On March 20 2015 10:51 LightningStrike wrote: I just got back from the store with my mom and did the dishes so sorry about the delay T_T Okay Eden you know I'm the Town Puppy still sometimes I take time to get going lol....... Rsoultin do you read Slam as Mafia and if so why? not sure yet? lol it's kind of like a you can't have it both ways sorta deal xP either you're gonna be a goofy slam the man with some good insights but mostly playfulness or you're gonna be a serious slam pushing things. the hf thing looks townie on the surface, but since then when he's returned to the thread it's been a stunningly bland nada xP so i'm sitting on him for the moment | ||
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On March 20 2015 11:05 LightningStrike wrote: So you just going to sit on his head until something happens between and another person? lolol yes i'll just sit on his head basically i think he could be town but i have reservations, so null for now | ||
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i'd like to hear yours, actually ^^ have any of your reads changed since your list earlier? you can just tell me what has changed and why | ||
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sounds about right ^^ thanks | ||
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On March 20 2015 14:24 sicklucker wrote: Breske why are you voting me after reading me right your pretty terrible have you learned nothing... Im playing dota right now but im not letting you gobbers lose another game for town by killing me lol >> sicklucker <3 you're probably scum this game, but i always find this mindset of yours that if you get mislynched town will lose very amusing ^^ | ||
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INTJs are the rarest xP female INTJs even more so therefore i win xP -does victory dance- | ||
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@Eden...cause you're not a complete imbecile? (re: the lock-town) | ||
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realistically anyone who isn't an idiot knows HF can dominate as scum xP that said i'm hard townreading him rsoul=idiot ^^ ENTPs are more like Loki lol xP | ||
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On March 20 2015 14:51 Eden1892 wrote: so is our list still the same then or what holybro actually go read the thing with superbia i just had and tell me if i'm retarded or if i'm getting somewhere then we can worry about lists + Show Spoiler + retarded >> lol you left yourself wide open ^^ (i actually couldn't be bothered to read that exchange; i'm so bad xP) | ||
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On March 20 2015 14:54 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + adorable. this spoiler thing is the best idea i/we ever had for mafia + Show Spoiler + secret thoughts no one else can see! though honestly lol i probably should read it...i'm kinda just not caring at the moment though and intending on filter-diving tomorrow | ||
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On March 20 2015 14:56 Holyflare wrote: just took test again and it had a slidey scale this time and now i'm istj and I have no idea what it all means so whatever eh, it's an imperfect test lol, ff gets different results too i've had to take it five times for school/work @.@...with intj 4 of the 5 and intp once so mine's pretty consistent lol that and if you look up the "personality portrait" associated with your type, if it's you it'll ring very true cause unlike zodiac horoscopes and stuff it's pretty specific xP | ||
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that argument has now been used so many times @.@ on various players at least i'm not missing anything xP | ||
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lol my life has no meaning (actually, i typically dream "real" dreams about work/things i normally do...or...trying to either escape psycho killers or save my family from them, usually by martyring...i don't really know what is wrong with my brain lol) so not even relevant i may or may not put a list together...more likely i'll just rank my scum/scumleans tomorrow though lol the mysterious bit is so fun | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:10 Fecalfeast wrote: does it include daydreams? + Show Spoiler + alakaslam is mafia. someone once said that if slam is not having fun he's mafia. Does this slam look like he's having fun? + Show Spoiler + it would not surprise me. he has been serious as town before, but he was pretty tryhard then. this is not tryhard, clearly :/ | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:21 sicklucker wrote: .....? Did you not follow jackofall trades? lol you did do well there but i think town was doomed anyway (and honestly, no, i was kinda growly at ninja for killing me n1 @.@ i love large games lol) | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:25 Holyflare wrote: ls feels pretty off to me and I dunno why you're so sure on him rsoul, he's not even basing his stuff off of meta in this game, like his read on me is that I called rayn useless with no evidence but he asked if he should sheep me earlier onto slam despite not being on slam anymore and if i'm null he shouldn't be doing that? -shrugs- i don't read him the same way y'all do? most people scumread him for inconsistencies or phrasing (or fucking punctuation) or something arbitrary like that. his reads are mostly meta in his list post xP and i thought he was asking you for evidence for your rayn read from other mafia games with rayn, which is by definition meta? lol for me it's as simple as him commenting on things, asking what other people think, engaging and responding quickly to questions :/ there's a natural way about him as town that isn't there when he's scum | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:32 Holyflare wrote: yeh meta, no meta on me though and asking if he should sheep me is weird if he doesn't have that meta read at all mmm should ask him, then. that's not something that i noticed i just generally don't bat an eye at people reluctant to townread you lol you sly devil you | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:35 sicklucker wrote: Well in my last game as town I did nothing on d1... SL...you have been known to say that you don't care to do anything not just when you've found scum, but when scum is getting lynched :/ Now I may be nuts, but Damdred doesn't seem to be the locked-in lynch here lol shouldn't you be pushing him? | ||
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rofl >< uuuhhhh sure? xP on the bright side, you're not topping my lynch list right now so...keep on keeping on i guess xP | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote: Ya but your like the most reluctant lyncher ever. Thats part of the annoying part I sapose. -snorts- not sure how this has any bearing on whether or not you're pushing your scumread xP | ||
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wait for iiiiit wait for iiiiiiiit wrongdewrongwrongwrong! yusolame viva? be brave! be courageous! find a real scumread instead of picking on my town puppy xP | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Rsoultin, didn't you townread LS in JOAT? lol yup ^^ and? | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: So how can you be so confident in your LS read? You seem to read him as town in every game you play with him. sweetie pie lovey dove amazing dumb 80%+ accuracy rating is still pretty good lol i also was the main person who caught him and lynched him in his first scum game it's not impossible that he's scum, honestly, but his activity level here is too high for that read and regardless viva's reasons don't make LS scum xP if he falls off over the next day or two i will gladly support an LS lynch but he won't cause he's town ^^ hi town puppy! | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Where are your thoughts currently at rso? Who do you want to lynch? xP there are amazing things called filters and voting threads omg! for realz? yeah, totes for realz! like, wow!! but no worries, artie xP i may just make a list post of ranked scum reads just for yoooouse + Show Spoiler + lol, as if i wasn't already planning on that xP | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:25 LightningStrike wrote: Hi sweetie pie how are you this morning? still waking up dontcha know xP so what does LS think about the artie/ve argument lol | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I skimmed through the last 4 pages of your filter and I couldn't find it so I figured asking you would be quicker. are you sure? xP | ||
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exactly four pages ago at the top of the page i was interacting with my scumread and current vote so i can only come to the conclusion that you: - never read my filter like you claim xP or - lack basic reading comprehension those be fighting words! waaaat?! hell to the yeah -bebops- + Show Spoiler + But just so you know, I do not dance ;o; | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I said I skimmed it, I didn't say I read it. I looked for lists or something general like that. fitefitefite! more seriously though i promised not to interact today and actually filter dive lol now go sit in your corner with your dunce cap or tell me why rayn is town otherwise i'm not interested in you xP shooooo | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:49 sicklucker wrote: People tend to townread people they like more just saying. For example im never townread. Just something to be aware of subconsciously to be the best town you can be true xP and people love to go for the easy mislynches especially when they're lazy. if i've got a good reason to think any of the normal question marks: slam, ls, even damdred (though he can take care of himself) prp, onegu, ff, yada yada are town i'm gonna go out of my way to run interference xP cause stastistically they're more likely to be town. i pushed for slam's lynch in down under so i still will lynch people i like, even on day 1, even if i generally consider them lynch bait xP we done here? | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: You are boring. In the time you've said all this you could've just given me your current reads. Here, like this: I think Damdred is still the best shot for Mafia because his reads are more superficial than they usually are, he hasn't done anything and the way he's going about filtering is unlike how he's usually done it. He doesn't withhold reads on people and try to confirm other people as town for explaining it; he just saves up information and then spits it out in one big post that confirms him as town and makes us lynch his suspects. This damdred just seems to be playing to survive. I think Rayn is a good second candidate because he's not really made his presence known. His push on Damdred was weakish and he hasn't really gotten mad at the people scumreading him too like HF. One point in his favour was the way he attacked me when I talked about Damdred confirming himself as town when he's town; it felt quite genuine. Beyond that I wouldn't oppose a SL/Toad/Superbia lynch at the moment, though I'm far from sure on any of them. SL because he's SL, Toad because although he defended himself well he's fallen off a bit again and I don't like how he's soft accusing me all the time as well as not actually trying to convince all of us that Palmar is mafia to the best of his ability, and Superbia because his tone has been off all game. don't care ^^ neither do you apparently lol i'm fine with a viva lynch, but i kinda want to nail rayn for personal reasons ^^ (on top of the scumread, obviously, lol) | ||
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namely...meta i think you know why i'm bringing this up :/ | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:03 sicklucker wrote: In void vivax didnt do anything past day 1 tho. So I dont think it makes him mafia but it could suggest hes mafia... I do expect vivax to be more gunho at the start of the game now that I think about it. Like if you sign up you should be exited to play at least at the very start of it right? lol sl >< it's posts like these that make me think you're scum ;o; when i don't have to try to interpret what you're saying | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:05 Damdred wrote: You are correct that meta doesn't necessarily make someone mafia. It makes them more likely to fit into a certain role. However Vivax actions or inactions this game far outweigh the implication that he could be town playing differently at this juncture. i was more referring to your general allergy to meta in most of your cases lol at least when you're town | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax is town because he goes after mafia Superbia and mafia LS. Damdred probably just bad here. get out -shoos- | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin can be mafia too because he doesn't have any reasons to think i am mafia. His reasons are "rayn hasn't done his towntell which he always does". -amused- bby be glad i'm not being more explicit. fair play and all that. it's kind of interesting that you don't realize what makes your town play town | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:11 Vivax wrote: It's a cute try but I can't remember a game where I got lynched D1 as town without marv in it. After reading the case from Damdred, even though it's very wordy, you can exactly draw two observations: 1. I'm less active than my townie self, 2. I picked on LS cause he was easy to pick on (?). Argument 1 is the sort of bs argument vets get confronted with when they posted more in earlier games. It's the very same argument that made Koshi modkill himself in his second last game. So it doesn't apply. Argument 2 is interesting as I just asked Damdred what he thinks would make LS mafia and he replied with something that could make LS mafia in his opinion. He completely dismisses my argument, brought ahead his own but he doesn't think there is a good reason to be suspicious of LS if he thinks I am scum and by consequence LS town? That doesn't quite fit. Actually, lovely, his best point was your peripheral play and scumread dropping xP which i notice you don't address | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##unvote ##vote LighningStrike If you can't see why this is a mafia post you are either scum or bad. -yawn- | ||
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xP you're never ever lynching me rayn, and i'll fight you tooth and nail over LS...superbia eh don't really care about him | ||
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so honestly i really don't care to filter dive right now lynch rayn ^^ he scum boyos...no i can't be as explicit as i want to be but that's actually just fair play...suffice it to say i've got a very good way of reading him and it hinges entirely on how interactive he is in getting his reads, which he hasn't been today get rekt rayn lol i'm willing to compromise on the following if y'all won't support my rayn push: - sicklucker (not pushing damdy but still lazy xP) - viva (peripheral posting is a thing, sorry; you don't have to agree with other things going on in the thread, but to have no opinion on them? xP) - exO_ (non-presence, though there's a possibility he'll pick up...maybe) - slam (gets townread, disappears, drive-by temp check posting since...only reservation is the possibly being too busy which is why he's #5) | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:39 Vivax wrote: Onegu is a non-presence as well and he's town. ExO was a non presence in a game I won at LYLO when I had to choose between him being the low activity poster he is and a mafia who was way more posty but dropped off towards the end cause he was hiking with his gf somewhere in the Canadian pampa. -shrugs- i will always have a tendency to scumread people who are interacting with someone in the thread while ignoring me when i'm trying to talk to them xP vote rayn | ||
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@viva sweetie i know you're not actually reading my filter cause i know what's in it lol i'll repeat what i said to rayn. you're not gonna get me lynched today xP paint it as shit posting if you want, but there's plenty enough content there, including reads | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:46 Vivax wrote: I didn't say I want to lynch you darling. nope you're just attempting to de-legitimize my reads right and left i'm not an idiot lol | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:56 Eden1892 wrote: my reason is "lynch artanis" LOL why not artie? artie could be scum but i don't know how to read him :/ i'd rather lynch about 4-5 people over him lol rayn i think i've got nailed | ||
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On March 21 2015 00:01 Eden1892 wrote: gimme cliffs cuz i don't have a lot of time to go reread to find your reasoning it's a toneread, eden essentially i've noticed that as town when he's getting reads he interacts with players...about his own reads, about theirs, not just settling on spectator analysis he's been such a minimal force this game, and his reads are dropping like judgments. the interaction isn't there this is something i specifically noticed about his town play because it impressed me...it's actually part of the reason i'm being less forthcoming in my own reads cause i think you can get more out of it, pulling people in to comment on your reads before you say why you think the way you do xP | ||
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On March 21 2015 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: *hint* you can't find it even if you looked at it lol hint: it's all through my filter in bits and pieces scumbag xP | ||
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On March 21 2015 00:13 LightningStrike wrote: Rsoultin what is your thoughts on Damdred's case? i've been leaning town on damdy...i liked his explanation when i questioned him about the meta section, which isn't typically part of his cases i like the peripheral point on vivax i'd still lynch rayn and sl over vivax right now, though lol it's pretty much clear if you read my posts since the case dropped xP you have anything to say about it? | ||
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On March 21 2015 00:16 LightningStrike wrote: I liked the case and sheeping his case you should check my post regarding his case :O lol i want rayn >< but i'm more comfortable with a vivax lynch (and I was fine with lynching him before) now that artie has responded to eden so ^^ | ||
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ls is town ls is town ls is town rayn is mafia rayn is mafia rayn is mafia i could be wrong ... ... ... BUT I'M NOT! lynch rayn! | ||
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do you have a good reason rayn isn't scum? that goes for everyone | ||
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lol vivax you're underestimating me i am giving you a chance. i can easily make you the leading wagon right now xP you honest to god have nothing interesting to say about anyone but super or LS? that's laaaaame | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like I'm pretty clueless who scum is atm. I thought Damdred had something sheepable and thought it was the Eureka moment I was waiting for. It all fell into place, but the fact that most people don't think it's convincing has me worried that it's not as strong as I thought it was. I'm looking for something to sheep because I can't seem to deduce who is mafia by myself today. tell me why you're not voting for rayn ^^ | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Give me something sheepable and I might. I'm a sheep looking for a herder. tell me why my toneread is wrong/isn't good enough | ||
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viva reads now thank you ^^ no i have only one sorta listy thing but i've made reads on most of the players in the game in my filter. you haven't. your reading comprehension is not impressing me if i can't get rayn lynched, i'm coming for you or sicklucker, so it's time to pick up ^^ | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The lack of interactions thing worries me too, but he is playing another game and the way he engaged me a bit earlier on Damdred which I've mentioned before felt like townrayn to me. xP i am not commenting in detail, but if you're aware of the game you have to know how active he is in it use a real excuse please and thank you ^^ | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I will use any "excuse" I damn well please that I think is accurate. But thanks for sharing your opinion. lol so aaaangry it's a bad reason if you're following the thread, you know that come on art the main reason i don't want to vote vivax right now is you this isn't helping ^^ | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Perhaps you should change your attitude towards me in case you want a more forthcoming response. nope ^^ i'm hardly the most obnoxious person on TL. you can deal with it i call BS when i see it | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:27 Holyflare wrote: man you guys are literally cancer why can't you just play nicely together -sits on hf- push rayn with me or go away | ||
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so that may not be complete bs it doesn't explain all of yesterday though :/ | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:53 Damdred wrote: That took more time then I thought. Comment on it, I have a few chores to do now i'll be back soon ??? sooooo we're worried that he's doing what he said he would and saying that's alignment indicative lol? | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:41 Holyflare wrote: dunno that was like 4 hours ago + i missed it anyway o.0 that can't have been 4 hours ago lol maybe 1 but regardless, the point stands. if he doesn't come back maybe discussing him dropping a case and not staying to talk is valid xP | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:45 Holyflare wrote: 3 hours but whatever, the point is I missed it :D o.0 lol i think i need to step away from this 3 hours wtf >< you're right lol >< | ||
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On March 21 2015 02:39 Fecalfeast wrote: almost as if she's trying to hop on holyflare's wagon for a bullshit reason/no reason? Am I forcing a certain answer with that question? Maybe. ^^ you're also bad at reading me i need to start keeping a list why do you think rayn is town? legit question | ||
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not to my recollection...but if you think i'm scum you either think i'm bussing or pushing a mislynch, so which is it? lol | ||
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On March 21 2015 02:45 Fecalfeast wrote: Well then that post and this discussion about it would have been time better spent catching up and posting your reads afterward. ff, how much of the thread have you read? i know you didn't read most of the thread as of last night, so why don't we turn the hypocrisy down a notch unless you're telling me you're fully caught up now? | ||
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On March 21 2015 02:49 Fecalfeast wrote: Stop trying to paint a picture without my input. First you directly imply that I said rayn is town by asking me why I think it. Now you are assuming, since I made the observation that you implied I had made a decision on his alignment, that I read him scum and are using that assumption to defend yourself. All I have to say to make this defense crumble is that I nullread rayn. Since you haven't actually asked what my read on rayn is it seems like you are just trying to discredit me without actually responding to my post. Strawman more, scum. lol oooorrrr i'm attempting to get your read what makes rayn null? | ||
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On March 21 2015 02:49 Fecalfeast wrote: I have at least skimmed every page. Most of them I even read every word fair enough and you've read my filter i assume since you're so certain i'm scum? | ||
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On March 21 2015 02:50 Fecalfeast wrote: the fact that I ahven't filtered him yet okay, so instead of doing the conf bias thing why don't you filter him and see if what i've been saying about him holds water ^^ then i'll talk to you | ||
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- emoticons - fluff - aggravatingly arrogant/annoying xP please do ask if for some reason you don't understand why i'm scumreading rayn despite reading my filter | ||
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On March 21 2015 02:57 Holyflare wrote: Why are you scum reading rayn? Dude is towniest in the thread. lol you must be joking >< | ||
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On March 21 2015 03:14 Fecalfeast wrote: Wait what you've been saying about him? Until recently all you said about him is that his towntell was missing and this: which is bullshit because no matter how much we can't talk about it, he's not going to be able to spend all his time on this game. He had 3 scumreads, which you again misrepresent by saying he has ONLY 2 scumreads, but actually reconsidered his read at the time, which you fail to even mention. You're really good at painting your own narrative, I'll give you that. again, you even mention the reason he's not going to be as interactive right now but scumread him for it anyway. From what I can tell, based on the fact that [active game] has been active for so long compared to this game, rayn's activity level and interaction level is fine. Yes I've read his filter. If you think you've made better points on rayn than these please enlighten me. I don't think your reasons for calling rayn scum hold any water. I don't care about towntells you have to keep secret. Until they are un-secret, I can't verify that they exist. show me how he's been interactive | ||
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On March 21 2015 00:07 rsoultin wrote: it's a toneread, eden essentially i've noticed that as town when he's getting reads he interacts with players...about his own reads, about theirs, not just settling on spectator analysis he's been such a minimal force this game, and his reads are dropping like judgments. the interaction isn't there this is something i specifically noticed about his town play because it impressed me...it's actually part of the reason i'm being less forthcoming in my own reads cause i think you can get more out of it, pulling people in to comment on your reads before you say why you think the way you do xP what i can't talk about has nothing to do with whether or not he's interactive as town what you think i'm saying that i can't talk about i've already talked about, the fact that he's in another game right now, which relates to his activity, not the nature of his activity while in this thread | ||
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On March 21 2015 03:30 Fecalfeast wrote: What counts as interacting with people? He talks to damdred, he talks to Ls, his scumread. He talks a LOT to artanis, he talks a little to VE.... I have a bunch of tabs of quotes of him interacting with people I think I need a definition of interacting. okay, what i mean by interacting here is trying to get opinions. on his own reads, usually...kinda like LS was doing before asking for opinions on those fights but a little less awkward lol like, for me there's a huge difference between discussing something with someone and talking at someone. this would be an example of a discussion, whereas me just rolling around going rayn is scum rayn is scum, even in response to something, is talking at someone | ||
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On March 21 2015 03:36 Fecalfeast wrote: long convo with artanis interaction with VE Trying to get damdred to interact even though he scumreads damdred. How much do you want? Are these examples of interacting by your definition? This looks like more than rolling around the thread i don't know how to explain this to you, which is kind of frustrating are any of these conversations at all initiated by rayn for the purpose of figuring out other people's alignments? or are they reactions to the threads/answers to other people's questions? | ||
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On March 21 2015 03:38 Fecalfeast wrote: Dude why did you reveal your trap under a little pressure? i revealed it awhile ago under no pressure? it's been long enough for him to prove he's townie to me and now it's time to get the lynch settled how do you not understand this? lol | ||
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i'd rather lynch you over him, cause even though i'm having doubts whether or not you're mafia, i trust my read on him more i've already said i'm willing to consolidate elsewhere but i want a rayn lynch cause that's the one i'm most certain on can we agree on someone other than ls? | ||
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On March 21 2015 03:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't like the people who want to lynch LS though. +1 way more questionmarks on that lynch than viva's :/ | ||
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On March 21 2015 03:49 Vivax wrote: Pick one between Toad, SL and Artanis. Especially Artanis should know better. of those the only one i think is better than a cointoss is sicklucker xP what am i missing? | ||
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On March 21 2015 03:56 Damdred wrote: Vivax...why is it that you might have three pages prior to getting pinged but right after I drop it you more than double your whole filter in a matter of hours? That bothers me kinda think that's not alignment indicative there damdred, no offense lol most people get more active when they're getting lynched | ||
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On March 21 2015 03:56 Toadesstern wrote: I am not letting you vote sicklucker unless you give me a good damn reasoning for why he should be lynched instead of people like Vivax / Rayn / Palmar (maybe Artanis but he wants to lynch Vivax so that's good) i'm voting rayn right now mr. antsy | ||
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On March 21 2015 03:56 Vivax wrote: Toad surely isn't a cointoss i think his palmar reasoning is bad -shrugs- but not to the point that it makes him scum like, i'd be flipping shit too if people tried to mislynch me for what i perceived to be the same reason i got mislynched last time i also think that saying he's only scumreading the popular scumreads is kinda unfair...given they wouldn't be popular if people didn't have reasons to scumread them? no one's arguments against toad have really seemed that strong to me -shrugs- | ||
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On March 21 2015 04:00 Damdred wrote: Either way I'm ok lynching into these three people today. Super/vivax/rayn I'd prefer vrayn or vivax I think. kill rayn with me damdy? ^^ | ||
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On March 21 2015 04:03 Vivax wrote: You lack the ability to take a townies point of view for some reason. Guess you're just noob. Anyway, it's start of day, everybody is banterin. Notorious trolly zero-fucks-given Mr. Palmar comes in and says you're mafia cause you said guyses and not guys. Do you go apeshit and read him scum as town? Palmar said he wasn't joking? i can never read palmar's trolling lol | ||
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On March 21 2015 04:06 rsoultin wrote: Palmar said he wasn't joking? i can never read palmar's trolling lol ^ | ||
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i like palmar's other stuff, for the most part, and would lynch toad over him easily...i just don't know that it makes toad scum and y'all continually saying it does isn't that convincing? | ||
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seriously? who am i supposed to be asking? palmar said that he was serious about the read. either he meant that or didn't dude if you don't want to talk to me, that's fine, but it's not going to help you any -shrugs- | ||
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i'm going to suggest you reread the damn post progression cause it's taking a lot of self-control right now not to just lay into you | ||
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meh really not interested in your opinion when you're the guy he's trying to get me to scumread -_- | ||
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first off, i did respond to your toad comment. that you didn't respond back before i made a comment on your other conversation is not my problem secondly, you said artanis should be calling damdy out on his activity. there is nothing fucking fallacious about saying damdy has been more active than you in giving reads >< and frankly i don't feel the need to damn well argue with you about whether artanis should or shouldn't have noticed something fundamentally wrong you prick thirdly, i was attempting to engage you in a conversation about toad in good faith and you decide to attack me for it? damdy i still want to lynch rayn >< | ||
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On March 21 2015 04:05 Vivax wrote: Artanis could make the same argument about you before you vomited that wall of text scum is sheeping, whether you're buddies or not. But he isn't, and you don't observe that he isn't. ^ what the fuck does this have to do with asking artanis anything if you're wrong about the activity level between damdy vs. you anyway >< gtfo | ||
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it's the usual anti-ls shit lol | ||
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On March 21 2015 04:38 Onegu wrote: /still ignore Blah blah blah. I'm a girl blah blah blah onegu is there a reason you're trying to irritate me right now? | ||
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On March 21 2015 04:40 Trfel wrote: If I read your filter, is that enough to show all the arguments against raynpelikoneet? my convo with ff is probably the best place to read it | ||
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whenever you feel like sharing it (and yeah i get that you decided to do this when i said the difference between you and exO was exO was ignoring my attempts to get him to talk) that would be nice >< cause it sure as hell isn't helping anything do you have any thoughts on the thread whatsoever? | ||
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On March 21 2015 04:44 Vivax wrote: No, I said Artanis initially suspected Damdred, then confirmed him town for vomiting a wall of text, which you would know if you read my filter. read the post i quoted ^^ which was what i responded to ^^ and tell me where the fuck the leg is you have to stand on is ^^ now i'm walking away before i get pulled into a shitfight i don't want to get involved in a break bbl | ||
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On March 21 2015 04:50 Vivax wrote: So apparently the only guy you didn't feel coinflippy on (SL) isn't an option anymore but LS is. I call bs. ... dude, can you take a step back for a second and realize that attacking me is not gonna get you anywhere? you gave me three names. i said he was the only one of those that wasn't coinflippy you have since found all kinds of reasons to make stabs at me when i am being charitable to you also i have no clue where this argument about artanis is coming from when he hasn't even been in the thread since damdy commented that you picked up after his case on you | ||
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On March 21 2015 04:50 ExO_ wrote: I did kinda ignore your posts at the start. But thats because in like the last 3 mafia games we've played you've randomly been out to get me from the start. That being said, all you were doing is asking me "what do you think?" without every providing specific context for me to answer that question. There's so much crap spewing here in day 1 that there's not a lot I really have to say. This day 1 has really felt like a crapshoot. I don't like any of the wagons. I don't really like the reasoning for the wagons. And because of it I haven't felt like I've had a lot to say. i wanted something. anything. even if it was just a comment saying you thought the arguments were bad between the people in fights, or weren't alignment indicative. where are you at on this game? i have a hard time believing you have nothing else at all and do stop whining about me attacking you. i'm not pushing you. i said you're unfamiliarity with this environment may be a factor. i'm sorry that you don't like it but just cause you're newish doesn't mean you can't roll scum, and doesn't mean you shouldn't have some sort of opinion it wasn't an unreasonable question to ask | ||
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On March 21 2015 04:57 ExO_ wrote: If I had a better read on somebody sure. But the only strong-ish read I had was on Eden and I'm not really as sure as I was yesterday about it. Nobody else seemed even remotely interested in that case. And not to mention his filter is huge and when I called him out he really did start responding. So he's worth keeping around for another day at this point because of how active he is. Most of the rest of the thread has been silly arguments based on past meta and shit. If I'm speaking honestly, it's very hard to sit down and read just constant back and forth bickering between people and get information out of it. lol >< meh i know that not all of the arguments in the thread have been meta but you're right that a lot of this is very eeeh, and coming from where we did y'all don't even try to read each other most of the time, but i also know you're a smart guy do you have any townreads? | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:00 ExO_ wrote: I don't think you've really attacked me this game. The games prior to this (particularly SK mafia, which I know is a joke compared to here) you were pushing me. I can understand the difference. But those past games were affecting my perception of this game. Not to mention, you were asking me questions but again not offering anything specific to comment on. And when I did bring up my 1 case on eden you didn't have anything to say. eden's probably town -shrugs- i did comment by the way that i think your "throwing shit" heuristic is off; you used it for me and were very wrong xP | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: This game is easy: Toadesstern LightningStrike Artanis Superbia rsoultin at least one of those are wrong xP and i strongly suspect two | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also i am blue. hardclaim or i'm not accepting it | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: you can kill me on D2 if i am not but you are scum anyways rsoultin. so you can't, lol i'm not scum you twit xP | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:12 Vivax wrote: Do you know what you're achieving? Zero. Cause I have plenty other arguments for Toad being mafia and so do other people who are more experienced at the game than your opinion nobody cares about. lol...really? is this post necessary, Viva? | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:19 Trfel wrote: And there lies the problem.... I'm not sure if there are two vigilantes in this game or not. How many blue roles would we be expected to have in this game? Any clue? The orb sort of counts as a blue role, too... :/ someone is probably lying but then i think of titanic lol >< | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:20 Vivax wrote: He just claimed mafia, amusingly for no reason. Once he flips we also have the information that mafia is in an awful spot if they don't lynch me or he wouldn't CC. talk more on this | ||
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why are you so important that you have to be lynched? xP seriously, viva...i want to know what you're thinking | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:27 Vivax wrote: Reminder never ever to play in a game with you. And also reminder I'm removing you from the game if I survive this day. You're a detriment to this town. lol ^^ <3 you too | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am sorry rsoultin but this is what you get when you treat me like this. this is what i get? what precisely do i get? -amused- | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:31 Vivax wrote: I think I'll modkill myself for the first time and never ever play a game again with all these newcomers who can't play mafia for shit. lol like you don't even understand the logic here. that's rich | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:36 Palmar wrote: why did Toad even counterclaim, couldn't he just find an alternative lynch and shoot vivax in the night? that's actually a good question :/ | ||
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eh i'm going with my gut lol i don't know that i believe rayn, honestly, but i'm not gonna lynch him today toad, seriously, if you're VT CCing viva just to get him lynched you need to come clean now. i really kinda hate how often people fake-claim even as town >< but i really, really do not see a scum fake claim in this situation, stupid move or not | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: xP | ||
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reasons why, please i'm going through his filter now the omgus palmar stuff could be construed as an overreaction, but his initial response to it was actually fairly laidback so if you've got anything else, throw it my way lol we still have an hour to work this out xP | ||
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we're getting so off-topic now vivax can fake-claim mafia vig as scum...whether there's a mafia vig or not, and whether he's the mafia vig or not lol >< is he fake-claiming though, is the question? | ||
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toad CCs rayn claims blue as some people start voting for him instead i said i needed a hardclaim he claimed tracker so now the debate is whether or not we should lynch one of the two vigilantes and which one ^^ cliff notes lol | ||
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On March 21 2015 06:15 Eden1892 wrote: Bruh there isn't a mafia vig. I just checked the OP. Lol Why is anybody even talking about this there is? but it's still kinda inconsequential cause vivax doesn't have to be the mafia vig as mafia to claim vig -shrugs- | ||
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On March 21 2015 06:16 Eden1892 wrote: No there straight up isn't, unless that "make sure any one person dies" thing is a vig. I thought that was the enforcer korath xP and again completely inconsequential | ||
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i don't see toad as scum and i don't know about vivax i'm fine with another wagon, but not lightningstrike you guys are killing me here lol >< | ||
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On March 21 2015 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah that's what i am doing, obviously. interjecting an argument about your alignment into a conversation with breshke about what is objectively the best play here? ummm yeah actually...your shit has nothing to do with what they're talking about except you claimed the role xP | ||
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nope. you know i'm right ^^ | ||
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maybe i'm nuts. the emotionally less handicapped people should fill me in | ||
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On March 21 2015 07:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'd say he's about a 6 on the Rayner scale. 6 out of 10? | ||
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On March 21 2015 07:22 Holyflare wrote: Stop this shit. Vote bm. Who cares about his meta. I'm pretty surw he's spammy town and lurky mafia though done | ||
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but it really just comes down to not at all sure on vivax plus vig claim vs not at all sure on bm lol >< so whatever...kinda just going with my prior hf townread here and the minimal losses strategy... like i wouldn't have been talking to vivax in the first place trying to get him to respond to me if i didn't think there was a possibility he could be town. he's not still trying to get toad lynched...i dunnae | ||
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the problem is we don't know the scum setup or what else this town may have, and it's possible, however unlikely, that we may actually no more day 2...if i was flatout scumreading vivax then sure lynch him to hell but i dunnae...i think he could be town >< | ||
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tch...like i see the logic both ways >< if they are both town though scum can only rb one (if they have an rb) so there's that | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:08 Palmar wrote: if I just hammered townie over mafia vivax I'm going to play only newbie games for the next year. lol someone save this post just cause if vivax is mafia i want to hold palmar to it xP for kicks and giggles | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: And the one that isn't mafia gets rbed and we end up wondering if they're just getting framed or not and waste another day on that. -shrugs- it's done, artie. you saying they should shoot someone else? | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:14 ExO_ wrote: rsoultin needs to be seriously looked as well as rayn. fuck palmar though seriously lol for what reason? | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:27 ExO_ wrote: because your vote switch to bm is the 2nd most suspicious after palmars. I considered you to be a reasonable person but that vote switch was a garbage move. If you want more specifics itll have to wait bc im posting from phone right now -shrugs- i can buy that actually lol (still doesn't make me mafia, but i'll take the compliment ) | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:30 ExO_ wrote: RB should block vivax. toad can shoot him then, and if by some inconceivable miracle he flips town we kill toad. pssst are you talking to a possible scum RB here? o.0 | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:38 ExO_ wrote: No? why don't you go lynch some random BM instead of solving this chaotic mess? Was such a horrible idea. And now HF wants both to live, causing more chaos. playing Russian roulette would be better than listening to him ... how am i supposed to solve this chaotic mess, ExO_? like i understand. i get it. i waffled, too. problem is vivax wasn't solidly scum for me. more to the point, these open set-ups have had multiple roles in the past. they've had 1 mason in the past. it's an open set-up regardless, that wasn't my point...there is no town RB role | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:01 Toadesstern wrote: Because I try to get people to lynch you without having to claim myself... +1 my thought but i wasn't going to answer for him viva, i still maintain that of the two of you, you're more likely to be scum, but i'd like to think you're both town, too :/ can we at least put off the alignment speculations until day 2? | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:09 Vivax wrote: Don't really see scum trading BM for a blue role, so I'm inclined to think they were sitting on me, as I already said a few times. i tend to agree that scum would want to get a blue role lynched...however there are other ways, too, like parking a vote outside the wagons, that might look less damning | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:10 ExO_ wrote: I could care less how fed up you are. Why did you switch off vivax to BM? I cant see why you switched. Same question to Palmar really but im not expecting anything from mr.yolo if you're not seeing anything you're not looking ^^ and i can't be assed to deal with your idiocy right now 1. it's not important 2. the reason is very obvious in my filter 3. you definitely haven't read my filter with how you've been talking about me all game 4. focus on what's relevant here, please | ||
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could be yeah lol i have to reread filters :/ and it'll be easiest when we know y'all's alignments for sure but we don't have that luxury at the moment | ||
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i'm leaving the thread. i'll come back with updated reads in the morning...everyone should do the same, but especially you and toad, vivax | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:18 ExO_ wrote: you switching vote from vivax to BM is EXTREMELY relevant to the game. What could be more relevant right now? Reading through filters is hard on my phone, which is why Im asking you to tell me right here right now why the switch from Vivax to BM. Can you do that for me, or are you dead set on brushing past day 1 as quickly as you can? i'm not being responsive to you because you're phrasing everything like you've already decided i'm scum and frankly i don't give a shit if that's the case ^^ if you want a discussion, act like it | ||
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On March 21 2015 06:29 rsoultin wrote: headache headache headache -_- i don't see toad as scum and i don't know about vivax i'm fine with another wagon, but not lightningstrike you guys are killing me here lol >< On March 21 2015 07:34 rsoultin wrote: well, honestly, i don't think it's quite as simple as hf or bresh paint it but it really just comes down to not at all sure on vivax plus vig claim vs not at all sure on bm lol >< so whatever...kinda just going with my prior hf townread here and the minimal losses strategy... like i wouldn't have been talking to vivax in the first place trying to get him to respond to me if i didn't think there was a possibility he could be town. he's not still trying to get toad lynched...i dunnae On March 21 2015 07:50 rsoultin wrote: nah i don't think truffle is scum lol...kinda surprised you do vivax actually cause he's being very truffle-like the problem is we don't know the scum setup or what else this town may have, and it's possible, however unlikely, that we may actually no more day 2...if i was flatout scumreading vivax then sure lynch him to hell but i dunnae...i think he could be town >< there, filter-dove myself for you -_- less for you and more for anyone else interested but for some reason unable to read a filter on a phone, which amazingly i've managed to accomplish with my low IQ xP | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:44 rsoultin wrote: ... how am i supposed to solve this chaotic mess, ExO_? like i understand. i get it. i waffled, too. problem is vivax wasn't solidly scum for me. more to the point, these open set-ups have had multiple roles in the past. they've had 1 mason in the past. it's an open set-up regardless, that wasn't my point...there is no town RB role oh and the last one that was actually a response to you ^^ and yet you somehow missed | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:22 ExO_ wrote: Im asking you to give me your reasoning. You outright refuse to do so. Im lhrasing like your scum because I think you're scum. You don't seem to want to convince me otherwise -yawn- give me your reasons for your scumread or get out of my face. i'm not making a "town case" on myself based on an unarticulated scumread | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:29 ExO_ wrote: I did miss that reply to me. But what I don't understand is the complaint about the chaotic mess. You choose this mess (intentionally perhaps?) when you could've choosen to eliminate the chaos a little bit. The only reasons I see for switching are sheeping HF and you think vivax might be town ( though I dont know why you think that). Is that all? lol is that not enough? is thinking that both toad and vivax may be town not enough? my last scum game there were two jailkeepers (what superbia was referring to) my second town game there was exactly one mason open set-ups allow for things like this, and night actions usually help resolve some of the claiming issues you were the one talking about the chaotic mess -_- so don't you dare bring semantics into this when i was only using your wording | ||
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the claim came late in the day but early enough for everyone to see it, react, and find another good lynch without running around like chickens with their heads cut off (the CC caused that last part) and secondly, the way he started treating toad toward the end and getting frustrated when his reads posts were getting buried. making reads as you're being lynched could be wifom...i've seen it before from mafia but most often from town...however the frustration itself seemed real and he wasn't bothering with screaming to get toad lynched in return why are you scumreading vivax? purely setup speculation or is there anything else? | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:38 Damdred wrote: Tommorow when I start analyzing these wagons how frustrated will I be RS? lol i don't know >< it's certainly not the cleanest lynch damdy so i'm not sure how you'll manage in-depth voting analysis, but i'll try some of my own ^^ i find it especially hard to make heads or tails of voting around claims | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:44 LightningStrike wrote: Was that aimed at me? If so it was because of Toad's counterclaimed so quickly to Vivax's Vig claim which I don't think Mafia would ever take a trade of 1 for 1 at all in any scenario because that trade favors Town due to the fact that there is less Mafia members than Town. no that was at ExO_, please answer viva's questions, and then tell me why there can't possibly be two town vigis while you're at it | ||
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the wonderfully irritating onegu >< | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:49 LightningStrike wrote: Also the reason I don't think we would have 2 Town Vigs because that would stupid to have 2 Town Vigs esp with a Tracker claim from Rayn although he looks bad at the End of Day voting for his switch to BM seemed to have little reason. Also we had 2 masons claimed in Onegu and Holyflare so if we really had 5 blues it would to over powered I think for Town even in such a large game (We got 18 people signed up for this game). that jives... my thing is i'm more skeptical about the other claims than i am about the vig claims lol >< funny as that sounds | ||
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dude ls most people don't claim VT that's not a normal thing >< not the way you and onegu do anyway | ||
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mafia has at least 2 kp the first two nights assuming no mafia vig according to the OP i don't think it's as huge a stretch as people are saying | ||
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though i have to admit that maybe rayn does play differently as a blue...i don't see why good players would play differently as blues since that's kind of a dead giveaway, but i suppose it's possible | ||
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On March 21 2015 11:57 sicklucker wrote: Ask your brother im a really great lynch for you! lol xP my brother and i don't make reads the same way when you're caught up, thoughts, please ^^ | ||
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ExO_ is way too salty. apart from attacking me (which lol yeah usually riles me i'll admit, but you don't see me holding it against viva even though he threatened to shoot me if he was still alive ) all he's doing is sitting there complaining, which is not constructive at all i don't really think trfel is scum, vivax i know this isn't a popular opinion with you at all, but i can completely understand players wanting to resolve your alignment just so it is resolved, regardless of what that alignment actually is lol i just don't agree when both vigis start looking townie that it's the best play. drunken wagon orchestrated by hf or not xP if you're both town, better to keep you -shrugs- regardless, i'm done explaining my thought process, and i might start whipping eden for continuously insisting i'm town >> sweet of you eden but i don't need the cheerleader meh okay, if anyone wants to talk to me about reads, please do, but i'm actually gonna do some solo work without you hoodlums for a bit xP | ||
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slam is bugging me...does his reaction make sense to anyone? cause it doesn't to me -_- | ||
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cause it crossed my mind he could just be looking forward to playing with the guy after a long hiatus, but if so it doesn't seem like he was enjoying him in the thread or anything i keep reminding myself slam already said he may be pretty inactive this game, but i'm at the point where his reaction to you hf is not enough to keep him as a townread this get townread for something vaguely townie he did early day 1 then fall off thing reminds me of joat xP | ||
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a lot of my read on truffle is completely tone...we've played a lot of games together. i can of course be wrong about him, but he is like the epitome of a cautious player, and the cautious, safe approach to what happened yesterday is to simply get rid of the question mark and move on i'll reread his thought progression though while doing my analysis. not married to a particular alignment for anyone right now...but generally my tonereads are better than my other reads lol >< | ||
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>< his not doing a damn thing is annoying the shit out of me | ||
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On March 21 2015 22:16 Holyflare wrote: why would i let you lynch my mason fwend..? thanks lol >< i wanted the hard confirmation xP now tell him to get off his lazy ass would you please? lol | ||
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On March 21 2015 03:12 Half the Sky wrote: Day 1: Current Vote Count Vivax (5): Artanis[Xp], Damdred, LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern LightningStrike (4): Bill Murray, FecalFeast, Vivax, Onegu sicklucker (3): Superbia, Alakaslam, Breshke Artanis[Xp] (2): VisceraEyes, Eden1892 raynpelikoneet (2): Holyflare, rsoultin Toadesstern (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet Eden1892 (1): ExO Not Voting (1): Trfel Currently, Vivax is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone. Voting is mandatory and in this thread. You may NOT abstain. Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill. After all three claims: Viva, Toad, Rayn On March 21 2015 05:50 Blazinghand wrote: Day 1: Current Vote Count Vivax (7): Artanis[Xp], LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, rsoultin Toadesstern (4): Palmar, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, VisceraEyes LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray, FecalFeast, Onegu sicklucker (3): Superbia, Alakaslam, Breshke raynpelikoneet (2): Holyflare, Damdred Artanis[Xp] (1): Eden1892 Currently, Vivax is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone. Voting is mandatory and in this thread. You may NOT abstain. Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill. Final votecount with BM switch On March 21 2015 07:59 Half the Sky wrote: Day 1: Current Vote Count Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar Vivax (7): Artanis[Xp], LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, Damdred LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray, FecalFeast, Onegu Toadesstern (1): VisceraEyes sicklucker (1): Alakaslam Not Voting (0): Currently, Bill Murray is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone. Voting is mandatory and in this thread. You may NOT abstain. Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill. Lol, figured I'd share...I like the visuals without the strikethroughs...more on this later but i think the main problem here is not knowing for sure the alignments of the vigis :/ | ||
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-snorts at LS- you've never seen his scum game xP this is an example of bad meta...unless you've got very specific reasons to think this makes him town | ||
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On March 21 2015 22:46 LightningStrike wrote: True I never seen his game when he was Mafia. You had played with him on another when he was Mafia care to link me games when he was Mafia when you played with him? i could but 10 pages vs. nearly 200...very different games lightningstrike lol >< i don't know how much you'll get out of it | ||
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https://www.starkingdoms.com/community/discussion/3785/ww-coven-wins-salem-witch-hunt/p1 i don't know if that'll help, but if you want it LS there it is lol >< he's SilentButterfly there | ||
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so um no offense guys but lol...truffle isn't scum...like 95% sure xP i mean viva you're gonna do what you're gonna do -shrugs- but...this is kinda silly | ||
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trfel - holyflare/onegu (you'd be higher but i'm just ><ing at onegu lol) - vivax - - - - - - - - - - - - slam, rayn | ||
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On March 22 2015 01:51 Eden1892 wrote: rsoul plz. i got so happy when i saw you post these vote counts and then there's no actual analysis ._____. i played league instead lol...it'll come later eden -flops on- (i'm actually still trying to figure out how to attack it honestly >< all the claims makes it confusing) | ||
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i feel so loooooved by them anywho yeah i'll put something together with enough time for discussion...probably...definitely...maybe lolol >< depends on how confused it all makes me i think slam should be one of the shots though on the basis of: 1) he's hard to read anyway 2) i get the feeling this is his scum game 3) no one's gonna cry if it's not xP yup ^^ | ||
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okay so rack and stack pre-reread time confirmed town BM holyflare/onegu super!town (but not confirmed) toad - cc+filter, eat your heart out palmar damdy! - dude has been in my brain most of the game o.0 fecalfeast eden town leans vivax breshke trfel artanis - pending filter review Null lightningstrike - pending filter review sicklucker - pending filter review palmar rayn - best you're gonna get bro scum leans ExO_ Superbia - pending filter review VE - made so little impression + natural townie response to claim CC is so not the guy who CCd him is scum lynch with fire! Slam the Man this may and probably will change after the rereads, and i know how many i lumped into null lol...most of those have made little impression on me or i think my reads may be wrong on any questions as to where my head is at, i'll be around | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:44 ExO_ wrote: Because he started the BM train. We were going to resolve the 2 vigi nonsense day 1, and then he came in and derailed it onto BM. rsoultin I feel like should've known better than to switch, so I find it odd that she did. I don't agree with the reasoning she gave me for switching. Palmar for that last second "yolo" vote. like wtf. And rayn is on the train too, but I was highly suspicious of that tracker claim he threw out there. Of all these people HF is probably the weakest scum read the more I think about it. But he did start the useless ass train onto BM. So I have to at consider him. okay, SB...if you're scum disregard cause i don't really care xP but as town, try to look at it from others' perspectives. just because you are incapable of seeing the possibility of two vigilantes in one game despite the fact that not only has that happened before, but it's happened before in one of blazinghand's games (who is the cohost), doesn't mean others are incapable of believing so take it from someone who has made the same mistake you are making (assuming that you're town)...just cause you don't get the reasoning, and especially just cause you don't agree with it cause that's even more silly xP doesn't mean that the other person is scum also curious why you're not including some of the others on the wagon...like eden and super...in your general spite fest? | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:44 Fecalfeast wrote: what made you put LS up for filter review, rasputin? You've been very sure ls is town all game eh i was wrong on him in joat and with so many scumreading, i want to compare his filter here with that one before i go back to hard-defending him lol my heart still says town but i do have a soft spot for lightningstrike and i'm fully aware of it ^^ | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:49 rsoultin wrote: okay, SB...if you're scum disregard cause i don't really care xP but as town, try to look at it from others' perspectives. just because you are incapable of seeing the possibility of two vigilantes in one game despite the fact that not only has that happened before, but it's happened before in one of blazinghand's games (who is the cohost), doesn't mean others are incapable of believing so take it from someone who has made the same mistake you are making (assuming that you're town)...just cause you don't get the reasoning, and especially just cause you don't agree with it cause that's even more silly xP doesn't mean that the other person is scum also curious why you're not including some of the others on the wagon...like eden and super...in your general spite fest? sorry lol so used to your other name ExO_ then | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:51 sicklucker wrote: Unless your a mason gtfo. Im not saying hes a likely mafia but hes contributed nothing. Theres no way he flips mafia 1/20 times this much im sure of in life these random reads ... English please? lol | ||
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dude i called truffle out within like...5 posts in his scum game he's a super slow burner...but the way he's approached the game while he's in-thread is just classic, cautious, naysayer everything has to be logical truffle like y'all hold him to this weird-ass standard because of carol when he didn't even play day 1? he's slow and unlike lightningstrike, i don't give him easy townreads lol >< | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:03 ExO_ wrote: Super is kinda the same case as Breshke for me. Both were fairly inactive and didn't leave too much of a mark on me. Eden because he's seemed much more towny since his little rage off at me. So right now you mean to tell me, our blues are: 2 Vig, 2 masons, a tracker? Putting aside for now whether or not rayn actually is the tracker, that seemed kinda weak. And the the orbs potential to kill people and 2 mafia KP on the first night, it seems like too much KP that could just swing heavily in Mafia's favor all at once. It'd be trolly, and I don't think the host would've made the game that trolly. pure speculation, and what you think doesn't mean everyone has to think the same way as you? lol | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: I wanna know how rsoultin reads me scum now. it's so hard to understand that i don't believe your claim? lol i was generous and put you in my null pile though ^^ | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:05 Alakaslam wrote: Vivax, shoot Rsoultin. If she is town we can deduce rayn may very well be scum all that would prove is that i honestly believe rayn is scum? he could very well be scum whether i'm dead or alive lol >< | ||
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but solely because it would look fucking odd for him to scream KILL TOAD KILL TOAD then hammer viva lol >< | ||
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i'm sorry but no townie points for that if viva is town...or scum...just basically no townie points ever ^^ | ||
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i need to reread his filter and see if i'm just tunneling him, which is possible :/ lol so many filters to reread | ||
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lol pretty sure it's rng'd? hts and bh both swear by that? they'd be going against their own credo ^^ | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:50 Eden1892 wrote: tbh i think slam and ve should be the shots fine with slam/ve/super ^^ still need to reread super though and ve though lol >< | ||
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@.@ that said...not as sure on lightningstrike with a reread and comparing him here to his joat filter? his filter is longer day 1 here than in 3 days there...but the game is also longer in 1 day here than 3 there lol >< the thing that still has me leaning town on him is the confidence level. there's a post where he laughs about how upset i'd be if i rolled mafia...like he'd catch me if i did xP that sounds more like a town ls statement want to move sicklucker into my townleans, though | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:58 Vivax wrote: Can you stop posting wishlists and go into more substantial things cause christmas is long since over and I'm not santa claus. lol cool it there's other reasons this is a good exercise and if you can't figure that out that's your own problem | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:56 Superbia wrote: All right, slam sounds like a pretty decent target at this point. What do you think about SL/LS? I know I've been shouting about them all EoD, but not much has changed (at least, not for me). Though maybe not LS because I might be shit at reading him (he always looks really mafia). I'm currently kinda looking at rso. I believe she has been leaning scum on me the entire game and has done seemingly nothing to further evaluate me. No real interaction or anything. I'm not really confident enough in calling for a vigi shot on her, however. Maybe Trfel? Whenever I see his name "may be scum" pops up in my head, but I'm not entire sure why. I don't think I've really interacted with him this game, except for maybe a few quips. I'm kind of scared of looking further at a second target tonight, since I'm reading like 3 scummy-ish people as PR. eh you're one of those out of sight out of mind players for me; that's why you're one of my filter review dudes | ||
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On March 22 2015 06:03 Superbia wrote: There have been some pushes on me on which you haven't given any comment (afaik). Why? How do you reach a filter length of 20+ without being able to interact with people you think are scummy? xP for one boyo you just made my list as of...well, posting my list, so don't act like i've been calling you scum all game when i haven't you made my list precisely because of the out of sight out of mind thing, and it was called preliminary for a reason i already said i was predisposed to scum you cause i didn't like your tone so was sitting on you, and if you hadn't noticed, my focus was on rayn and attempting to get a discussion going with vivax so...you weren't really a priority | ||
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super...refresh my memory your scumreads are sl and ls and...who? my concern is you had them pegged by page 2 in your filter... -continues reading- | ||
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On March 22 2015 06:23 Superbia wrote: I was scum-reading damd, but he said some townie things (imo). His night post also looks really nice. I was scum-reading rayn, but he claimed PR. I don't really have any other solid scum-reads at the moment. More like a lot of suspicions. Been pretty lazy. yeah, i see that lol for a bad reason your reason for rayn was slightly better so...lol umm...nvm...is the only reason you're not reading rayn scum right now the claim? | ||
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On March 22 2015 06:34 Superbia wrote: Yeh. Missreading PRs as scum happens rather often. I believe his claim. and the mix-up with what damdred and rayn said is no longer a factor at all? | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:37 rsoultin wrote: yay for some adjusted reads...i'm almost definitely wrong on at least one of my town leans, but i'm pretty sure of the top two categories and of course slam confirmed town BM holyflare/onegu super!town (but not confirmed) toad - cc+filter, eat your heart out palmar damdy! - dude has been in my brain most of the game o.0 fecalfeast eden town leans lightningstrike - longer filter, more confident tone (he thinks i'd be scared of him if i was scum lolol) vivax - (most likely of the vigis to be scum based on common sense, but like him at EoD) breshke - posting while in-thread is good...just in general really good trfel rayn - lol >< i'm being female. filter looks better on a reread, though it's still not as robust as i'd expect so no super town for you xP sicklucker - gut read...hard to explain lol but i'm never good at reading him Null artanis - kinda like damdy, thoughts matched up frequently...good filter length...problem is his scum game is good...will reread Day 2 palmar scum leans ExO_ - literally spent more time complaining about flip results than the entire rest of his filter Superbia - static reads...weak reasons...comment assigning blame to HF pre-flip VE - made so little impression + natural townie response to claim CC is so not the guy who CCd him is scum lynch with fire! Slam the Man - stated reasons plus not doing his usual find the towns method | ||
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On March 22 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote: I would like to point out that if you are town telling us your shot is acualy not a good thing to do. So I really hope your wifmoing here... -sits on SL- dude...at some point you will learn to shut up xP that said lol at least you're solidifying my gut townread on you ^^ | ||
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cause you don't get an rb notification in this game | ||
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On March 22 2015 08:26 Trfel wrote: Is it best to share the result at this very moment, or to wait for people's reads to develop and share it later? good question | ||
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so mafia has at least 2 kp 1 of those definitely hit HF if we assume that viva was either roleblocked or didn't shoot that leaves the 2nd kp either blocked or a vet took the hit, right? | ||
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but really it's up to truffle | ||
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duuuude don't give me more reasons to say rayn is scum xP i just started approaching that more objectively >< | ||
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On March 22 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote: gonna emulate onegu now (sorry for the 21pg spammage :/) no more posties from me for awhile last post before the day phase -shrugs- | ||
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but it's so much more fun this way ^^ | ||
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On March 22 2015 09:01 Onegu wrote: Don't believe. Like why wouldn't you protect HF if you thought we were masons as he was the much better shot... medic dodge, honestly, and damdred's post | ||
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On March 22 2015 09:03 Toadesstern wrote: didn't Rayn claim he would track me with the wrath of a thousand suns though? i'm not saying it makes him confirmed scum? i just know i wouldn't have the scumreads of a claimed town tracker carry kp | ||
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viva ^^ -rolls around the thread- if rayn is scum do i get awesome credit? i should get awesome credit (he's probably scum you know) ^^ | ||
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On March 22 2015 09:10 Onegu wrote: With 2 masons, 2 vigi, and a tracker claim. Plus orb. Even if one of these is scum, why would they think there is also a jk? So doing a medic dodge wouldn't make sense -shrugs- you can disagree with the play all you want? | ||
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i think the information at this point is more important than keeping a non-secret secret that or they hit the vet and the joke's on me, but i'm an optimist ^^ | ||
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On March 22 2015 09:15 Toadesstern wrote: if rayn is scum on top of that, that means the d1 votes are all useless because mafia voted whatever they wanted to vote, implying all of BM. Vivax and me are town. I had some 4 or 5 votes at some point as well, including Rayn's vote and he pushed me really hard.... so what's that if we now know there was mafia on Vivax as well as most likely on BM because he already flipped town? We'd probably have to scrap everything at this point and assume we went wrong bigtime somewhere early during d1 with a lot of reads if mafia tried to push all three of Vivax, BM and me. ?? mafia would be trying not to get ls lynched if ls is mafia? the main counterwagon to vivax at the time? don't see how that's useless there toad | ||
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i just tinfoil hatted all the really stupid reasons + Show Spoiler + toad!scum (unlikely) vet hit (unlikely but more possible than the first) meh that was a really doubly triply stupid time to claim lol mrrrrt | ||
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On March 22 2015 10:53 Damdred wrote: Which btw Rsoultin, good job playing as normal even though you are blue to many times people who are blue try to play to low key and I like that you just played normally even though you claimed at a bad time. Also I wanted to bring this up yesterday around the time but I got distracted at home. Rayn is probable scum, someone said yesterday that Rayn claimed under 0 pressure basically. This just isn't true about that time Rsoultin and myself were talking about me moving to Rayn which would give him the vote lead at that time or the momentum going back his way. I think it was a bit more pressure on rayn then we initially thought in context? if that makes sense and it kept the votes going on complete town wagons on vivax at that point it seems. I need to fact check that a bit yeah, viva's claim defaults to ls or rayn since i was getting some of the claimants to vote him. it wasn't without any pressure, for sure. i don't know if it was enough to say definitively though? lol yeah on the bright side i like never roll blue so y'all don't have to be subject to my stupidity often? xP | ||
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On March 22 2015 10:58 Damdred wrote: Actually a vet in this setup is almost impossible with the amount of blues. You, 2 vig, 2 masons. That should be all of the blues unless one of you are lying obviously. I didn't think rayn could be tracker with masons in game << I was hoping... i think the most likely explanation is the simplest one however if i'd thought out all the possibilities first lol i wouldn't have claimed there i just thought that knowing where the kp went would be most helpful with all the confusion going on but yeah, with the ls lynch basically on auto now, i definitely could have waited that wasn't brilliant lol most likely the simplest solution is correct: 2 town vigis onegu = mason (or scum but more likely mason) my action stopped the 2nd scum kp | ||
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On March 22 2015 11:06 ExO_ wrote: rsoultin are you claiming doctor or jailkeeper? you're kinda skeezing me out here you know ExO_ and before you accuse me of dodging the question, i've already made my claim clear in-thread | ||
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On March 22 2015 11:12 ExO_ wrote: Why is me confirming which role you're claiming scaring you? I'm trying to determine what exactly happened last night and I wanna make sure I get it right skeezing me out as in...we've got almost the equivalent of a red check on lightningstrike and you're more concerned with whether i'm medic or jailkeeper? i'm gamora...there is no medic | ||
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rayn claiming tracker doesn't make a ton of sense when you'd already claimed mason? i mean...him flipping mason when everyone was saying you were masons with hf isn't exactly a brilliant plan if that's really what he was attempting | ||
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and whenever i answer his questions, rather than following through on it, he disappears...it's like if he has nothing left to pick at instead of going oh that makes sense or i don't believe you or whatever he just falls off the face of the planet? he did it again while being more concerned about what i was claiming than the lynch for today based on truffle's orb | ||
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On March 22 2015 12:06 Breshke wrote: Iv'e mentioned this before but if you look who was townreading SL at the time this lines up with onegu and rayn being masoned together. oh i agree certainly rayn and onegu have to be the same alignment the problem is the tracker claim under a small amount of pressure i kinda expect rayn to make a modicum of sense, you know? it just sounds weird o.0 if you want to draw a shot to confirm your mason buddy...why rayn over onegu? why not just claim mason? like the whole thing is strange | ||
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On March 22 2015 12:06 Onegu wrote: Why not in that case I claim mason with Rayn and HG as town would.confirm I'm sure so if rayn's not concerned about being shot why doesn't he just claim mason with you? i mean...you're both claiming something so assuming you're both town, you're both likely shots... why bother with HF at all? this is just too weird, Onegu | ||
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On March 22 2015 12:09 Onegu wrote: We didn't want to out HF we thought he was vet. why did you think he was vet? | ||
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On March 22 2015 12:11 Breshke wrote: So if onegu and rayn arnt mason they are mafia. This means that rso did not get a save. This means it is very likely toad is mafia because either mafia double stacked HF when there was no reason too. Or mafia also shot VE. I still haven't read a lot of what happend in the night and probs wont get to but I cant think why mafia would do that other than his PR claim Also a chance mafia hit a vet but idk how likely that is lol bresh or it means onegu was mafia carrying kp? xP which actually isn't terribly unlikely since of the "mason pair" he's the less likely save and unlikely to be cop-checked or anything over someone else | ||
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On March 22 2015 12:12 Onegu wrote: Why else would.he claim. To be my mason partner. We thought he was.trying to draw.a.shot hmmm fair enough i suppose he did claim to be your mason partner lol >< i'm not sure why he believed you so strongly | ||
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possible but still very unlikely | ||
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that makes sense, and the tracker claim makes sense too under those conditions okay onegu ^^ that's all the questions i had | ||
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??? you don't have to be an ass. i can be wrong, and it's not like i didn't start doubting that do you have a question or are you just being cantankerous? | ||
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-flicks- yeah i'm just gonna stop defending ls lol he can stand on his own two feet if he's town in future games (or even the very unlikely chance he's town in this one) i've clearly got a blindspot where he's concerned | ||
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On March 22 2015 12:27 Breshke wrote: By the way who is scum reading superbia and why Also RSo looking at just the vote whats some conclusions you would come to seems vivax is town, unless scum got super ballsy and bussed him yesterday the roleblock doesn't necessarily implicate slam, cause it could easily be an excuse to try to get vivax lynched if not for trfel's tracking thing today i don't remember everyone on bm, honestly, but i doubt all the scum were on vivax i'd have to take another look bresh...i may put it off till tomorrow :/ | ||
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<3 you ls...i'm not mad, promise lol...maybe a little sad :/ | ||
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we're lynching ls can you stop whining? go do something else at least lol | ||
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i don't think eden needs to defend himself? | ||
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On March 22 2015 15:21 Alakaslam wrote: Toad and Vivax probably both scum I have been suspicious of that since last time I was in the thread Vivax somehow doesn't kill me and toad somehow thinks VE kill is smart Bullshit both were scum kills there is no vig possible i guess? but two mafia claiming vig when they can be cc'd....not sure it's likely? | ||
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hey :/ why you voting me? | ||
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the appeal of the unknooooown | ||
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you mean other than trying to solve it? xP | ||
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On March 22 2015 15:58 ExO_ wrote: could you explain the thought process behind your night action? already have? are you on your phone again? | ||
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On March 22 2015 16:04 ExO_ wrote: I've been at a frienda house all night. Its why phantom had to update the SK WW. Just a brief explanation will do medic dodge + a post by damdy made me switch my choice to onegu | ||
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On March 22 2015 16:12 ExO_ wrote: Switch to onegu from? lol damdred actually | ||
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On March 22 2015 16:18 ExO_ wrote: gotta give me something or ill draw the obvious conclusion which is? i don't know where this is going, exo, just that you're beginning to bore me -_- | ||
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On March 22 2015 16:19 Eden1892 wrote: rso how do you feel about my analysis it looked good to me? slam seems kinda townie to me now though i dunnae lol like i thought he might be trying to deflect the ls lynch but after ls already posted his capitulation? | ||
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On March 22 2015 16:24 ExO_ wrote: Are you a fan of disney movies like cinderella rsoultin? i prefer lion king a point would be nice | ||
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i just...wow i was actually thinking you may be confused town or something ExO_ cause it's like so insane for scum to claim a check on me here...but alignment cop is alignment | ||
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On March 22 2015 17:50 ExO_ wrote: This is 100% what happened. I was told Nova Corp. My role is the cop. So we're supposed to believe that the mods messed up and not you? That instead of just saying town, they used the name of VT for an alignment check? I'm not saying it's impossible but it's so fucking unlikely. Like if they're going to mess this up they should at least give you my real role. | ||
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On March 22 2015 17:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: No you are not. It in fact makes ME confirmed town because i have been pushing LS on D1 all day long you fuckface. anyone is capable of bussing no need to be an asshat, even if you are town | ||
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On March 22 2015 17:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: stfu, you are scum. you literally refused to read LS mafia and read me town for my best case ever. so scum. so scummy scum. -snorts- being wrong hardly makes me scum | ||
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On March 22 2015 17:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: no it does not. what makes you scum is that you are incapable of looking at the REAL evidence there is in the game. then you just sit on your shit read on me. That is what makes yo uscum. lol nope ^^ even if that were true, that would make me dumb xP | ||
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or onegu's or fucking anyone's...i kinda wish it was night already >< | ||
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On March 22 2015 18:00 Eden1892 wrote: rsoultin you are absolutely claiming jailkeeper here? no takebacks duh >< not only have i never fake-claimed ever (except saying i was town when i was scum, but that goes without saying), but i'm not going to introduce false information for town of course i'm the damn jailkeeper | ||
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On March 22 2015 18:02 Fecalfeast wrote: What? We have a free scum lynch and a whole day to talk still and people are active what is the problem? frustrated scum? lol >< my instinct says ExO_ claiming here is not a good scum move...but i can't reconcile it with the alignment cop thing onegu has to be scum. just has to, or he's the stupidest townie in the world here >< and if he's scum, rayn coming in saying he's not a mason, confuses the hell out of me. cause he should already know that onegu claimed that if they're scum together. unless that's the point...distancing basically i have a headache and it's not going to get any better -_- | ||
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On March 22 2015 18:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: So is it real? ExO claims an alignment cop with a rolecop result? he did claim an alignment cop with a rolecop result | ||
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On March 22 2015 18:07 Trfel wrote: Or perhaps they're just terribly uncoordinated? life would be so simple if they're all just scum lol >< | ||
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On March 22 2015 18:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know. What i do know is that rsoultin would ever jail you oer HF if she thinks you are both town (masons). you know shit about me rayn ^^ i chose a medic dodge target on a gamble. it still paid off, though of course i was hoping they'd shoot outside HF in an attempt to dodge a possible jk | ||
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and i'm fake-claiming instead of just leaving people in the dark and vivax was roleblocked like what fucking insanity would possess me to actually fake-claim to explain the nightkills as scum? the only one being an idiot is you, if you're even town | ||
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i'm getting tired of explaining the obvious here ff are you just trolling now? -_- lightning strike is getting lynched that means that unless the night actions reveal anything all we're doing is talk talk talking for the next what? lol 5 days? about how believable ExO's, rayn's, onegu's, vivax's, toad's and my claims are | ||
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On March 22 2015 18:30 Fecalfeast wrote: WHAT THAT'S ALL MAFIA IS TALK TALK TALK ABOUT CLAIMS OR WHATEVER and that can't give me a headache? lol you do realize this conversation is like completely pointless, right? xP | ||
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it's nearly 5 a.m. for me | ||
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dude i want to be a vig so bad in one of these games RIGHTEOUS RETRIBUTION xP okay, i'm going to bed then nite folks | ||
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the whole she's vt so must be godfather claim just seems like a completely out there narrative when a red check works better and why even bother with the claim today? even if it works and somehow gets me mislynched before ls, then that's just two free scum the next two days it makes no sense from scum lol >< unless they're insane the nova corps thing could be the alignment? that would help reduce my headache | ||
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On March 23 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote: Like comic/movie wise rs all the blues are aligned with corps that would make a ton more sense lol >< i just don't see a scum claim here precisely for the same reason vivax just mentioned. also the way he approached it seemed kind of weird (and annoying xP) but the whole well could vt fake claim that stuff | ||
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i think i asked this before but i don't remember your answer like i was ready to accept the possibility that if your partner was rayn, that would make sense, and even (though it was still pretty weird) he might have claimed tracker there to draw the shot...kinda out there story...but if he's not your partner then it's not making sense at all again onegu's stories keep on changing. like town can lie and fake-claim sure but the sheer number of times is getting ridiculous at this point | ||
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he was the medic in down under and still tried to actually solve the game. he doesn't seem to care about solving it at all here. i think the only read he's even committed to is saying i'm scum? beyond that, saying people are town who he fake-claims mason with...after the fact | ||
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On March 23 2015 00:18 Damdred wrote: So you think you blocked a kp there instead of blocked a shot rs all i know is that unless toad is scum...and while that's a possibility it's hella ballsy when vivax is pretty much confirmed town, plus some of the other things he's done in the game make me lean town on him apart from the vig claim... there is missing kp so either the vet was shot or my jk blocked a shot...onegu has to be involved as either the target or the player delivering the kp and for me the second is just statistically more likely since if he's town scum has no reason to doubt his mason claim, and that's reason enough to shoot him with hf...and if he's scum he's probably a safer kp carry than the other players given his all but confirmed status and everyone clearly thinking i should have tried to save hf (and they're probably right lol ><) | ||
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and i will admit, i deliberately didn't attempt to save him because i still find his claim highly doubtful and wanted to see if the night actions would resolve that for me | ||
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RB town vig (vivax) kill claimed tracker (rayn) kill one of the masons (hf/onegu) can argue that night actions are wifom and i generally agree but i mean...removing confirmed towns and threats just makes way more sense than yoloing it on a lark | ||
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but i find it unlikely that day 3 involves a lynch outside the claims -shrugs- which is probably why it's such a topic of discussion right now besides which there's no reason to complain about it when people are specifically asking me if i think i blocked onegu's shot vs. blocked a shot on onegu xP like, HF is good at this game. he's a n1 kill anyway so i don't think that matters viva HF = good at this game, plus generally perceived as confirmed town -shrugs- | ||
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On March 23 2015 00:57 Vivax wrote: I have no idea and will just trust HF on this. lol >< meh, i hope that doesn't bite you in the ass, vivax, cause i doubt my time in this game will last too much longer xP HF and his theory for after the night actions makes me wonder how much he really believed onegu was town but he's not exactly here to ask | ||
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(inb4 you think i'm calling you scum for it) that you talk about evaluating the players outside the claims, yet are willing to accept some claims on what is apparently pure faith and not others. if you evaluate onegu outside his claim i don't know how anyone arrives at town. null, maybe like think about it...if he's The Mason representing The Masons like you'd think he'd be the damn mouthpiece or something? instead he just fake-claims mason with HF and rayn | ||
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- Toad - Viva - Artanis - Eden - Damdred - FF - Breshke if LS flips scum that almost 100% clears Truffle i look at ExO_s claim and it matches up with confused town. his insistence that there couldn't be two vigilantes. his pushes against me...can't set that up before a claim he doesn't know is coming...the check makes sense, and it seems to come from a townie perspective more than a scum one that leaves: sicklucker, slam, onegu, super, palmar and rayn i kinda want to remove slam from that pool based on gut feels honestly, almost for the same reason as ExO_, cause i don't see why scum would attempt to save an LS who has already conceded sicklucker, onegu, super, palmar, rayn so that leaves me with either one of my townreads is wrong... or at least one of these claims is fake that's where i'm at right now | ||
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like if it's a buss it's a double-buss because lightningstrike was sheeping holyflare onto rayn, and that's what caught rayn's attention i'm trying to remember who holyflare was talking about earlier than lightningstrike wasn't willing to sheep him on? was it sicklucker? like if i had to shoot one of onegu/rayn now it would definitely be onegu. i think rayn is much more likely to flip town than him | ||
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On March 23 2015 01:58 Vivax wrote: If you are town and townread Artanis I strongly urge you to rethink your position given that two dead townies and me and rayn all suspect him. You may think highly of your play but straight out ignoring so many people with probably more experience than you is really stupid. At the very least if you are a supporter of that position it is your task to find arguments for it instead of lazily putting him into a list cause activity. I still have to see an argument that goes beyond "he's active or trying to solve the game" whereas multiple arguments for him being mafia have been presented from the aforementioned players. why is he scum to y'all again? can you make it succinct please? | ||
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On March 23 2015 01:59 Damdred wrote: Rs... LS never voted for rayn i know he didn't? he was saying he might? i guess that doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things lol just saying you might vote for someone | ||
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On March 23 2015 02:02 Vivax wrote: No, enough clutter. Read the game, mafia isn't babyfood to be spoonfed to lazy people, you actually have to dig and find the scum nuggets. Or listen to the right people. THe constant denial to do it for yourself and request to let others do the work for you is awful town play. Did you even read what confirmed dead townies wrote? look, you don't have to work with me if you don't want to, and you don't have to like the way i play, but saying i never do any analysis is a stretch. i rely on feels cause for whatever reason they tend to work better than actual analysis for me, and it's actually frustrating if you want to know the truth my initial play on this site was heavily logic/analysis driven and i kept running into the fact that people are just fucking illogical and contradictory as town. all too often. all too many of them so would you mind working with me at all? like seriously in carol i kept asking why lian was screaming about hf and only when i went back through his filter, found his argument, applied it to hf's filter did it click work with me unless you think i'm scum, then whatever. i don't really like your attitude either it was very infurating day 1 but i'm still trying to work with you? | ||
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On March 23 2015 02:19 Vivax wrote: Sure you can work with me but then don't ask me to spoonfeed you what other people and myself said about Artanis. Cause working with you isn't the same as working for you, I did my work on the Artanis part. I read him, I read HF, I read VE, I read rayn and their opinions on him. Everyone else is letting him slide for lazy reasons, and these are the guys I trust the most given that we know each other's plays being here for years. So I kindly ask you to read what HF and VE wrote on Artanis, cause if you can't trust me or rayn at least you can trust me. lol, i really don't see the problem with putting it in one place, succinctly, over me going back through five filters to find it, but if it bugs you that much, whatever (i wasn't asking you, btw, because i ever intended to accept what you were saying blindly >< i fact-check things. it's how i work with others' reads/cases. just ask damdy. i always fact-check his cases even when people go omg! sheep time) regardless i don't think it's worth arguing about. i'm not sure why you're so pissed at me right now, anyway? it's kinda unnecessary | ||
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On March 23 2015 02:43 Vivax wrote: Pissed isn't exactly the word, I was just honest about my opinion on how the game should be played and why I think you're doing it wrong, and then suggested what to read. I figured I thought I was more constructive than how it actually came over? Okay, let's go into more concrete examples then. So can anyone tell me why HF is making wrong points on Artanis here? the WIFOM post is meh...there aren't too many points there i agree on the meta was bad i kinda already said why rayn voting for you at eod woulda looked bad even if he was scum though...he could've parked his vote on toad i suppose but that still looks bad if he thinks you're the town vig, so i don't actually agree with HF on the third post like i see why these posts are bad (most of them) but not so much why they make artanis scum? | ||
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On March 23 2015 02:59 Vivax wrote: Rsoultin. - Host wifom dictates there's at least one vet on the team. -> argumentation for scumreading VE and rayn. - It's possible RNG made it that way. Can you tell me how these two mesh? i don't see why either arguments should be made at all frankly? lol like, seriously, either it's RNG or the hosts adjusted. either way we won't know which is what he was saying it's a bad reason to scumread anyone, but doesn't that ignore the rest of his post where he did present reasons for scumreading them both beyond RNG or whatever? it's a shit post but this feels like it's being read into too much ... on the other hand the thing that just occurred to me is that for someone like ExO_ (assuming his claim is true) or me, or you...a blue claim should be met with more paranoia simply because we know we're blue and as the numbers keep piling up it becomes more and more likely someone was lying so in that sense i'm not sure where the paranoia on rayn was coming from in artanis' case like i 100% get ExO_s issue with the way the vote went down if he's blue cause i had issues with rayn's claim and onegu's...HF i trusted and the git was sitting there fake-claiming mason lol | ||
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On March 23 2015 03:13 Vivax wrote: No it's not being read in too much. Mafia has to make up stuff to scumread townies and if you find arguments that are really easy to make and don't involve the individual play, that also applies to claims, then you can be sure it could have come from mafia. Artanis starts his post with the premise of vets being in the scum team which just sounds like a lazy justification for his scumreads on VE and rayn, and at the same time posts something that invalidates his own reasoning to not look like he's stretching it too much. And Toad if you want to discuss with me why I think you're scum do it without whining. Why shoot VE and why not consider LS for lynching D1 even though your post suggested you would? Like, I had every reason to scumread Trfel and I didn't shoot him cause a good vig doesn't go for the hero play, he removes people nobody bothers with or is capable of reading. okay that actually does make sense...especially if that's a pattern i know y'all kept saying his reads were too easy this game/unoriginal i don't really have the time right now, but i'll go through his filter and see how true that is...lol >< i'm so good at mafia-siding in these games it's almost a mark against people if i'm agreeing with them too much uhoh damdy that means you may be scum xP (nah, lol) | ||
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On March 23 2015 03:27 Vivax wrote: The only guy calling you scum is rayn so far, cause he doesn't buy you jailing Onegu cause medic dodge. I'm going with the theory you're town for pretty much the same reasons Artanis does. You don't seem to have trouble posting, but what you do have trouble with is getting some firm scumreads out there. that's kind of the point? eden's probably just being protective (and proud of his read lol ><) but like what is the point of even defending me when i don't need defending? lol >< eh my confidence in my reads is just not there after being wrong as many times as i've been. i can make anything sound/look right pretty much as long as i believe what i'm saying and i don't want to lead people on wild goose chases, but if that's what y'all keep clamoring for, i can do that, too i've been told more than once by different people they'd rather me play town leader even with my bad reads lol >< things just tend to go wrong when i do that | ||
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On March 23 2015 04:20 Toadesstern wrote: why would ExO claim a green on rso... I guess he could be desperate trying to get everything out when we were talking about lynching him earlier but he could have just waited until after the lynch to get another check in? This makes no sense at all... but it's understandable to be in panic in his case I guess exo thought the check meant i was VT...or he made up the check, but that seems...weird given the timing and the way he approached it | ||
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On March 23 2015 05:22 Vivax wrote: It was before the lynch when everyone was discussing all claims and who they'd vote etc. If I had to guess she took rayns claim at face value initially. But would like confirmation on this. honestly i'm still trying to decide whether or not i believe rayn's claim? but mostly i was just trolling him | ||
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On March 23 2015 05:23 Toadesstern wrote: did you already townread Artanis at that point? town lean but he's not a "strong" anything to me lol | ||
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On March 23 2015 05:42 Vivax wrote: Check it again, quite possible my memory failed me, but I was reading stuff from the time around the claims so I find it unlikely? Maybe I was reading backwards. As for Toad's question: I have no idea. Would be interesting to hear about it from rayn. he definitely claimed blue after that post? i mean i could quote it for you, but i was the one that demanded he hard-claim...for what i think are obvious reasons at this juncture lol >< | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:09 rsoultin wrote: at least one of those are wrong xP and i strongly suspect two it was like a minute before he claimed? On March 21 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also i am blue. | ||
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and in all fairness lol i haven't gone over artie's filter with a fine-tooth comb because i see little incentive for scum to put the work in on a day with a settled lynch on their scumbuddy and i know, toneread and all that jazz, but the eagerness and enthusiasm in the thread after that check made me think the people taking the information and running with it (which included artanis) probably weren't scum? which he won't like cause it's feels again but i really don't think that's the worst reasoning ever >< lol still, i haven't gone over artanis' filter closely so i could be missing something | ||
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On March 23 2015 06:06 Damdred wrote: So my perspective rayns wagon is 100% town but LS or other Scum doesn't push it over? factoring in the claims...i don't know how strong a point this is, but it's an interesting observation? like there wasn't much time between vivax's claim and rayn's as i recall | ||
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On March 23 2015 06:11 Damdred wrote: Maybe I'm misremembering however. LS infers Rayn is Scum agrees with hf. Says it's good never votes Rayn, never. Even as Rayn is lead in tv the votes. Soon as I make the vivax case and people start jumping on he jumps on vivax taking him from leading the lynch you weren't a strong townread of ls' were you? i need to look that up but i thought he was wary of you this game | ||
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On March 20 2015 03:17 LightningStrike wrote: You looked way to townie in Titanic for me to trust my early read on you sorry that was like...the last read on Damdred in reference to his list post before he sheeped the Vivax case so yeah, opportunistic, and calls into question not voting on rayn earlier someone has probably brought this up already i think >< | ||
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On March 23 2015 06:20 Eden1892 wrote: I bet both of you wish you noticed what I noticed lol he's made a few posts that call into question his scumread. this one was odd to me, too: On March 21 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote: this is what i get? what precisely do i get? -amused- which...lol doesn't seem much like someone talking to a scumread either (he never did respond to the above quote) the tracker claim example is a much better one though ^^ | ||
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<< vivax << >> did you just make a toneread? -shot- okay sorry i'll be good now yeah, eden, you're right. i've been doing the same thing with more and more lynch wagons/scumreads to try to solidify where i want my vote and get them to give reads if they do get lynched and flip town lol...but yeah, outing to a scumread just cause they asked doesn't make much sense | ||
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plus the way he pushed me was actually pretty townie imo...i didn't even want to strangle him xP | ||
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On March 21 2015 05:27 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm going to side with the counter claimer on this one. I don't see mafia toad going for the 1 for 1 here On March 21 2015 05:57 Fecalfeast wrote: ls is mafia with toad, the plan is they are going to get vivax lynched and when he flips vig play the "oh no there must be 2 vigs" game I would like to know how you got from the first read thinking toad was town to the second, though, FF. Please explain? | ||
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will you have SCUM written in your filter when i get off my lazy ass long enough to go through it? (that was mostly by way of greeting lol i don't actually expect an answer xP) | ||
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On March 23 2015 08:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Why would you read the filter of a confirmed town? idgi. You should spend that time digging into one of the more interesting filters like Palmar or Superbia or something. thus why i haven't been motivated to do so lol xP but i will at least give vivax the respect he's due by entertaining his thoughts. can't hurt ^^ yusoangry? o.0 | ||
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and now i feel the need to apologize again for my gigantic filter looking at the page-count in this game | ||
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On March 23 2015 08:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote: But none of Vivax' posts point out why I'm mafia. They just point out inconsistencies or create mafia theories/narratives for my actions without considering/refuting any town motives. There's nothing to even refute :/ i know? he pulled the same shit with me near EoD and i was having trouble keeping my temper in check doesn't mean i won't find anything interesting on my own...i've been lax with the filter-diving on the longer filters (inb4 you say this is a reason you're town cause i know lol ><) since i'm entertaining viva's ideas, do you have any you want me to entertain? | ||
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On March 23 2015 08:17 Toadesstern wrote: gosh thanks, instead you you sit back giggling while I'm treading through hell that is having to deal with it your responses were townie and helped with any niggling doubts? plus they did finally get viva off your back so...win/win? lol | ||
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On March 23 2015 08:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also whilst catching up I noticed you were annoyed that I'm simply calling you town for your filter length, and that you were worried about future games. I don't need to dig into your filter to know you're town because the filter length plus the eden soulread plus jk claim is enough for me to realize you're town already. I'm sure you're town for other reasons too, but why would I look for them when I'm already almost certain you're town? Seems like a better idea to look into other people. meh i know everyone has different opinions as to how people should play the game and i really did clutter this thread up quite a bit needlessly lol i don't post that much just to get townread (in all honesty i might have overcompensated to avoid looking timid...i'm not used to playing blue ><) eh i just get chided for leading town poorly, then not leading town, then this then that and i don't know what to do anymore lol but that's for post-game i guess | ||
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On March 23 2015 08:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think it's a waste of time and you should at the very least check Palmar/Superbia first because they've gone largely under the radar with all this Vivax mess going on today and have barely checked in. If you've got time to spare you can also check me I guess, but those two (and Slam, but I have no idea how anyone would read Slam) would be much more interesting imo. my list post from earlier remains unchanged until i find good reasons to change it? but like i said i really do need to go through most everything again. the thought right now just makes me meh | ||
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lolol okay well i'm gonna peace out for awhile. thread is nice when people aren't growling constantly at each other lol (says the pot) | ||
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On March 23 2015 11:18 Eden1892 wrote: I missed the blue hints from ExO_ but I'll take your word for it. I tend to agree that hitting blue!ExO_ is probably worth more than named-VT Onegu or lynchable VE. So yeah, guess that's 3 down. LightningStrike, Onegu, raynpelikoneet, ?, ? I feel like Superbia is definitely one of the other two. Last one... idk, Slam? I'm wrong on Breshke or sicklucker? why is palmar town? the last-minute vote? | ||
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On March 23 2015 13:06 Onegu wrote: Exactly!!! So why would town rsoul protect me. So when I flip town it looks really bad on toad because of missing kp and rsoul because of same thing lol onegu it won't look bad on me if you flip town xP or on toad i'm not sure why you think that | ||
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On March 23 2015 13:13 Onegu wrote: Because I really doubt I was shot. And we have a missing KP. maybe you weren't? i don't know all i know is i chose you, and whether you agree with or understand my reasoning or not doesn't matter and there was only 2 KP as long as people believe that even if you flip town it won't implicate me and toad? like even if mafia didn't shoot you, that doesn't mean toad isn't a town vig or that i didn't jk you -shrugs- | ||
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oh well...i guess that means rsoul was lying about jking a claimed mason what happened to the KP? lol >< your logic is based on nothing but that you don't believe i'd jk you | ||
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On March 23 2015 13:24 Onegu wrote: I think you are scum and delivered the KP to VE so that shows if you were tracked. In order to explain the missing KP you claim JK on me. As it's kinda plausible but not really. You want HF dead so you explain you thought he wouldn't be shot for medic dodge. okay well, that's a nice conspiracy theory i guess? so i assume that you also believe there is no jk in the game at all and i'm the godfather? | ||
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and since ExO_ came out with a check on me either he's lying or i'm the godfather or something? that's pretty elaborate | ||
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On March 23 2015 13:30 Onegu wrote: I don't believe a VT check on you. Hosts will never confirm btw as it confirms Edo if town or scum/dumb if wrong. alignment cop green check so what you're saying is that scum built a lovely house of cards exo, toad and i are all scum and all fake-claiming lol ummmm well onegu if you are town you're imaginative. i'll give you that at least xP | ||
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I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'D JK ME so xP it almost seems too looney toons to be scum... but regardless, i doubt the question of onegu's claim remains unanswered for long regardless | ||
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On March 23 2015 13:42 Onegu wrote: Gut, Plus some thing my mason partner said. He had you null at the time but I thought you were worse okay, so i'm gonna be honest with you here, bud you've been pretty obnoxious to me all game...when you were town you weren't obnoxious to your scumreads when we were trying to solve the game together in down under, and snickers was a pain to deal with what made me not only so bad you thought I was scum, but so bad you're going to be obnoxious about it as well? all this says is that you thought i was scum and i asked you why | ||
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clearly you had a reason beforehand. it must have been decent enough for you to be on the attack? | ||
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On March 23 2015 13:57 Onegu wrote: Sorry you feel this way. Sorry I was rude early. But check my past I give reads where the only thing I say was gut. Not being rude here just honest. even gut reads are based on something? usually tone...which i make lots of reads that way, so i know it doesn't seem strong but surely you can elaborate | ||
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believe it or not i'm actually trying to help -_- cause the wilder your theories the more i think it's likely to come from town rather than scum i'm not doing this to be a pain it would be hella nice if i could townread you without having to wait for your flip, you know? | ||
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On March 23 2015 14:09 Toadesstern wrote: that however makes it sound like you know he's going to flip town... assuming he will flip town? i am talking to onegu like he is town, yes, toad is there a problem with that? i don't know what he'll flip any more than i know what you will flip -_- but if he's town i'd rather not mislynch him. anything else? | ||
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On March 23 2015 14:11 Onegu wrote: Tbh 100%, not rude. I can't remember... guess I could look at your filter, but like I'm really not in a good place right now. Trying to get out of the funk now, so I apologize. alright :/ lol it doesn't much matter anyway, tbh, except in helping to determine your alignment hope things go better for you? | ||
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On March 23 2015 14:15 Onegu wrote: No no I remember it was how you reacted to my mason claim, saying everyone is masons. Then how you reacted to my trolling was off. Like I felt your reaction was over the top, I was rude but didn't think it was that bad. did i? i don't even remember lol i'll have to look that quote up and yeah you were kinda rude :/ and i think you interjected it into the fight i was having with vivax? like robik i don't care if he threatens to come to my house and do shit lol he's always that much of an ass. you're not someone i expect it from...and frankly, i think it was just bad timing? i'd have to dig up the quotes :/ | ||
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On March 20 2015 00:02 rsoultin wrote: and you caaaare (or think we'd be behaving this way in-thread) becaaaauuuuse? like seriously why is this even important to you? lol i've also started talking to truffle and LS as if they're basically confirmed town cause in my mind they are maybe i'm a mason with them too >> world of masons! was this what you were talking about onegu? this isn't even a reaction to you or your mason claim? cause the only other thing i could find was before the game even started o.0 like i'm seriously confused here lol | ||
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On March 21 2015 04:38 Onegu wrote: /still ignore Blah blah blah. I'm a girl blah blah blah yup >< in the middle of blowing up at vivax who i'm trying to have a conversation with to see about finding a lynch outside him and you felt the need to put this in lol xP i mean i get that robik was worse but in his own way it was less personal cause robik flaming is like rayn flaming; they just do lol you've seen me blow up plenty of times in down under; it's not a new phenomenon | ||
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On March 21 2015 04:41 rsoultin wrote: onegu is there a reason you're trying to irritate me right now? ^ that is too angry for you? yeah i don't get it onegu -_- sorry | ||
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well it's certainly a good excuse not to play the game; that's true not sure anyone could read my interactions with ExO_ this game and come to the conclusion that we're scum together lol | ||
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it's not even good WIFOM cause mafia would already know they'd shot VE if they shot him | ||
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one blast on a given night -shrugs- sounds like one kp to me but could have been clearer for sure | ||
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On March 23 2015 15:05 sicklucker wrote: Its great if it works. Honestly I would do it. Only way to grantee a shot dirty ole roleblockers -_- lol most people don't play like you do sicklucker, and i don't mean that in a disparaging way | ||
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well...is there anything you wanted to discuss with me toad, sicklucker...anyone else still in the thread? if not i'm about to turn in | ||
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On March 23 2015 15:00 Breshke wrote: Im fairly sure the OP says the vigis are one shot. Also is there any other reason that onegu doesn't claim his partner here right now other than trying to find a mafia partner that sounds believable. I honestly cant think why townmason onegu hasnt claimed it yet. couple theories if onegu is town but i'm not going to 1. feed them to him 2. put the thoughts out there in case that messes anything up ^^ it can't remain secret forever so just patience i guess? lol | ||
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well i was up till 5 yesterday so i could probably do that again @.@ but it's not the best plan gnite folks ^^ | ||
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you know i really don't get it when people drop conversations with me just sayin' like you're obviously still here eh whatever you do it, rayn does it, exo does it...i'll just pretend it doesn't bug me -_- | ||
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On March 23 2015 15:22 Eden1892 wrote: the great thing is i found this list of good questions to ask and b/c it's a phone interview i can literally just copy the ones that i'm actually interested in from the list weeeellll >> i interview spectacularly xP so just channel your inner rsoul! more seriously, i think just being open and honest works best? lol you don't want to sound like you're reading a speech in front of the class or reciting bedtime prayers xP | ||
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like seriously, things no one else has talked about >> << viva may even stop calling me an idiot! -sits on rayn's head- onegu says he has his soul read on you if i treat you as if i believe you're 100% town instead of just possibly town, will you talk to me? | ||
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On March 24 2015 01:29 Onegu wrote: I got something Ill talk about during night phase +1,000,000 lol | ||
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like seriously if you're scum with LS you did spend a portion of Day 1 bussing him, and there's the switch to BM, so those are more solid reasons to think you're town than my gut feels that were saying you were scum please talk to me? i want to know where you're at now. in detail ^^ | ||
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rayn is talking to me yeah sure, i can, but i don't really care about LS at the moment. you've got plenty of time to clear your name and i personally find reads tend to convince me more than defenses ^^ | ||
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On March 20 2015 01:06 LightningStrike wrote: + Show Spoiler + It was Bladezzz4 this is an interesting post right here i think if you're town rayn...sets up suspicion on Holyflare mostly it looks like he wasn't really willing to commit to a read on you one way or another so far | ||
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On March 24 2015 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Here i give you the guidelines: LS sheeps Holyflare's read on me. But he is a guy who's about 100% of reads are purely based on meta. He asks Holyflare to proveide my scumgames. Holyflare never does that. Do you think it's LS'y to NOT go check for them by himself? He just keeps calling me scum when there is a wagon on me -- also keep whining about Holyflare not providing those games. Do you think that's what he would do as townie? I said all this on D1. Then he asks me, his scumread (i would assume people read their scumreads posts to better prove their read is correct -- right?) "why did you vote for BM?". Like it's fucking obvious why i did vote for BM. I have had a townread on Vivax all game long and i voted for BM because i did not have a townread on him and Vivax asked me to. Somehow LS "doesn't know this". Like he isn't even trying to be logical, he is just shouting shit all over the place. Good thing is that this confirms me town. you know i kinda disagree lol that this confirms you town ^ however i do think that the waffle back and forth about calling you mafia or not based on your tracker claim (town) + your vote switch to BM (scum) is ridiculous like the main two people he was scumreading were you and Palmar for that...(but again it doesn't look like he knew what to do with your tracker claim lolol) and Palmar has absolutely no incentive to switch to the BM lynch (whereas I could actually argue reasons for you) if he's scum, because parking on Toad just makes him look stubborn | ||
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On March 24 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think Palmar is mafia with Toad and Toad is mafia so Palmar is probably town. Seriously, Toad is so scummy. yeah i've come to the conclusion based on voting alone really lol that both Palmar and Onegu are not scum in this game which is nice i love clearing questionmarks ^^ | ||
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On March 24 2015 01:56 Vivax wrote: But boting is be bing bich bakes bum book bike bown bery beasily. lol what's that vivax? | ||
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howeeeeever Onegu's is solid. before your claim, vivax, he voted LightningStrike over you and put the votecount at 5:4 that is just not a very scum-motivated thing to do barring a few other options of course, but since LightningStrike absolutely should have changed votes to BM if you're scum when he had the chance, I'm pretty confident I don't need much more to townread Onegu | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like do you think LS makes that sort of arguments on me if we are both mafia? I have to confront him in that case (which i did), i have to push him if he didn't give me reasonable answers (which he didn't). That is just stupid mafia play.... I agree it's stupid mafia play, yes, rayn. It's a point in your favor lol ^^ I'm also rethinking my townread on Toad...problem is that's actually not a point in your favor, despite the fact you've been scumreading him but regardless...i'm not going to be completely forthcoming with all my thoughts right now for strategic reasons ^^ | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why is it not? The dude apparently wants to lynch me BEFORE LS, the fucking red check. not going into it right now rayn :/ lol you keep presenting ideas like scum never busses ever, and that's certainly not true, however i promise i'll go into detail tonight after everything is set. don't think i need to explain why | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:09 Trfel wrote: Grr, it seems that everyone is confusing me. Maybe I'm still too sleepy. Rsoultin, what conclusions are you drawing from your voting analysis? You seem to be saying that voting suggests that Palmar and Onegu are town. Anything else? laaaater ^^ (as i said it's points in Palmar's favor, but i think it all but confirms Onegu unless he's just making especially stupid scum plays lolol) | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think clearing people for votes is too easy. Now that you pointed it out, Onegu did vote LS at a crucial time, but Palmar switching to BM does not feel that significant as both BM and Vivax are likely town. Also, Onegu keeping his vote on LS all day rather than choosing a side kind of counts against him, but N2 should create some clarity here. Rayn, Toad is not scum. I am 99% sure. Already said this? But here's the deal, Artanis. Two vigilantes on the loose super scary! Can only roleblock one! Better for scum if one goes down with the lynch. Only one real vigilante...who cares lol so for your analysis to hold water on Palmar...you have to consider one of the vigilantes to be possibly fake...and that can only be Toad BALLING see vivax i can do logic | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like you don't fucking make a wall-of-text where you scumread people when you are 25 pages behind and pretty much all of my posts were on those pages. You just can't do that as town. It is simple. >> umm i think you can do that as town? it's just another example of bad play that doesn't necessarily make someone scummy i mean palmar like...regularly never reads as town xP fecalfeast <- same thing course they usually don't do the wall-of-text thing, but again, this doesn't confirm someone scum secrets and awesomeness for EoN incoming lol | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Eliminate the impossible and what remains, however unlikely, is true. I find it impossible that Toad is mafia this game. I don't know if Palmar is, but him switching from town to town even if one is a town vig is certainly possible. -amused- you can't think of any reason, any reason at all, for one scum to take the fall for another at a later time interesting, i thought they said you were smart impossible is too strong a word | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU ARE JUST GIVING OUT FAKE READS?!?!?!!?!? I don't even know why i came back to saying something logical. bye. dude i'm saying toad can be scum will you calm down now? you're freaking out too much | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote: This reason being brought up is enough of a reason to make it infinitely more likely than a Toad scum scenario. so riddle me this, artanis if there was no CC on Vivax, what do you think would have happened? hypotheticals | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Except that things like that NECESSARILY MAKE SOMEONE MAFIA! it's a strong argument, rayn, i'm not saying it's not. i'm saying it doesn't confirm he's mafia 100%. are you going to argue that one with me? | ||
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On March 24 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Of course that does not make me or Palmar mafia if you are town. Why would anyone argue that? it doesn't make you two town is what he's saying >> | ||
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On March 24 2015 03:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Look i try to confirm myself as town in a way or another. I do that every game. I have claimed a cop at the start of the game once, to make people trust me. If i feel like there is mistrust in my reads and i have a way to make them read (in case i can't do that by just presenting them) then i claim if i can. :/ fake-claiming...really, really does not make you look more townie to me rayn lol >< can you just admit it so we can move on? you do realize that there are so many claims now that it's actually hurting us rather than helping us if you're not the real tracker for you to perpetuate the charade? | ||
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i'm not gonna argue with you. it's just lovely that you fake-claim so often you can never be believed xP so back to toad. anything other than the wall-of-text reads on all the currently leading potential wagons that has you thinking toad is the scummiest scum of all scummers? | ||
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On March 24 2015 03:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't claim when it does not benefit me. As town or as mafia. I don't fakeclaim when it does not benefit me, i have never fakeclaimed as scum except for the bitchcraft game where i knew i could win as scum for doing that. I have reasons when i claim/fakeclaim. i'm not saying you don't? votes were shifting to you LS was the other leading wagon when vivax claimed there are reasons to fake-claim there as scum...or town really if you want to head off the lynch talk to me about something alignment indicative cause i don't want to argue with you about this as it won't get us anywhere xP | ||
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On March 24 2015 04:05 Vivax wrote: I need to correct you as this is factually incorrect since I looked at the votecounts myself. Right after my claim 3 ppl piled on rayn. i said to ignore the irrelevant point? which was the LS one -_- votes were shifting to rayn is exactly what i already said lol it's cool though i know it's confusing when i mix thoughts together :/ | ||
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On March 24 2015 04:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: well it's not true. she didn't even have a case. why would i care as scum? you're missing the point if you think i'm scum why are you outing when i ask you...demand really...to hard claim? | ||
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On March 24 2015 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: THAT IS NOT WHY I OUTED. WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE SO FUCKING RETARDED! I don't wanna play this game any more. you said you're blue i said hardclaim or i don't accept it you said you're tracker and that has nothing to do with why you hard-claimed? how can you look at that sequence and not think they're related? even if it's not what you did it's obviously not retarded, so calm down -_- screaming doesn't make me think you're town you know. maybe it does others but i'm emotionally retarded as we've already established with robik ^^ | ||
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On March 24 2015 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: like you are so fucking dumb here rsoultin. are you mafia? how am i dumb? | ||
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On March 24 2015 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am not going to explain anything to you. lynch me for it. go fucking try. you do realize that the pulse of the thread right now means you probably will be lynched day 3? it would benefit you to explain you specifically claimed at my request while simultaneously scumreading me, or that's what it looks like is there a different explanation? cause so far all i've seen is FUCK FUCK FUCK SCUM LYNCHED ME LAST TIME FOR BAD REASONS but that doesn't explain it? | ||
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On March 24 2015 04:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: And i don't care about it the slightest. -_- i think i know why i just want you to tell me instead of me feeding you the answer why are you being so difficult? i was fine with your answer before but vivax clearly wasn't can you just explain please? | ||
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On March 24 2015 04:27 rsoultin wrote: fine i'll spell it out you claimed because you didn't want to be lynched and people weren't listening to you (you've pretty much already said it but i think part of the problem is you're not being terribly direct, however much you may think you are) rayn, if you're gonna curse and scream about people not reading, at least do me the courtesy of reading my entire post before flaming please and thank you ^^ | ||
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mostly toad at that juncture i do actually think that he could be scum here... one of the things we've said too much is there's not much incentive for toad to CC vivax but there are actually two very good incentives 1. Vivax was trying to get Toad lynched after making his claim - survival 2. Depending on LightningStrike's role when he flips, it could also be an attempt to preserve LightningStrike so Toad does have to be read independent of his claim. i agree can we talk about Toad now as I wanted to originally -_- | ||
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On March 24 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: At least you try to keep the thread reasonable. Like what the fuck are you doing? You agree with me but you are questioning me for something you think is not reasonable in the first place? What are you trying to do? Shit up the thread? trying to get you to state it calmly and clearly enough that everyone gets it rayn :/ eden asked you answered and vivax asked again. i'm not going to explain you to others cause if you do happen to be scum or i'm misreading you that's not beneficial | ||
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On March 24 2015 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like rsoultin do you ever reach a conclusion in this game except for rayn being mafia for no reasons on D1? you're obviously not reading my posts :/ if you think that | ||
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lol yes take one post out of all my posts xP and not even one of the most recent i want to talk to you about toad! don't make me beg rayn -_- | ||
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On March 24 2015 04:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Pro tip vivax: Mafia is: Lightningstrike - cop checked Toadesstern - terrible read with no substance Superbia - terrible read with no substance ExO - claims cop with rolecop result one of Artanis / rsoultin. - one of them is just dumb. I'm actually not arguing with that list though i think a couple others prob should be added for consideration NOW can we talk about toad? | ||
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On March 24 2015 04:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have talked about Toad enough already. If you don't understand why he is mafia i have nothing to say. you know what fine, rayn -_- i tried if you're town you should be ashamed, and doubly ashamed if you think ExO is scum and i'm scum with him xP but enough of that | ||
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On March 24 2015 04:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't see anywhere where the host have cleared this, otherwise he is scum. the host won't, rayn that said, eden...much as i think that was one of the most awkward thing for scum to do ever and terrible timing given LightningStrike's concession... i can't think of a reason to townread ExO_ outside the awkwardness we're basically going with the too dumb to be scum defense X100 | ||
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On March 24 2015 05:30 Damdred wrote: I hate being ignored. The thread was so good and constructive before this afternoon. Don't forget never forget i'll talk to you! <3 though...i have nothing amazing to say anymore ;o; | ||
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On March 24 2015 05:46 Eden1892 wrote: Not quite. (1) LS's concession has nothing to do with how good/bad his play would have been as mafia. (2) The play would be even dumber for mafia to make than town. ExO_ misreading his role and getting too drunk on the hero play conspiracy Kool-Aid to realize his play was wrong is plausible. ExO_ fakeclaiming to try to get you lynched and claiming greencheck (with the idea that you're godfather) instead of redcheck is just not plausible from a mafia mindset. If you're thinking "fakeclaim cop to lynch X" then your mind doesn't jump to "claim greencheck and push godfather theory," it jumps to "claim redcheck." Has nothing to do with "too dumb to be scum" here shhhhh i'm trying to get him to play :/ EXO IS SCUM!!!!! | ||
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On March 24 2015 06:19 Fecalfeast wrote: god I'm an idiot ??? lolol | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote: can I be town read for actual content and ideas rather than how many letters are in a post please. its kind of annoying and makes me not want to work as town honestly. smh ise townreading you for being on the same page as me! so if you're mafia i'm mafia-siding super strong lolol but i've been townreading you since like early day 1 ^^ | ||
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part 4: the Redemption...so much win | ||
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um damdy? why would trfel make a play as scum that only had a 25% chance of stopping a shot and 50% chance of being useful at all? lolol | ||
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On March 24 2015 07:59 Damdred wrote: Actually its not that horrible RS, if its not a good result at least they wasted the power for town. Also if Vivax would of shot slam might of been slam is town. Scum could of gotten like 5 town deaths if orb would of killed vivax. Its an interesting theory ^ okay lol not as bad as i first thought, other than LS being mafia goon <3 but you didn't know that at the time confirmed town truffle! | ||
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badumdum as if that were ever in doubt -_- | ||
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you guys. like what is he gonna answer? xP | ||
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no one believed his tracker claim i'm pretty sure it's okay though you still get brownie points <3 | ||
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like 72 hours before lynch xP you've been in the game what an hour? lol YES WE ALL HAVE READS BASED SOLELY ON YOUR PLAY! | ||
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(somehow i doubt i'll actually manage that but y'all can shoo me from the thread if i start posting) townies figure out the game for me plsthx <3 | ||
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On March 24 2015 09:12 sicklucker wrote: Most are just there reads tbh. Its kind of absurd to say tref/toad/vivax/dandred/exo/eden area all confirmed with sketchy claims or no claims at all. I would bet my left nut 1 or 2 of them are acualy mafia which one or two and who gets the nut if you're wrong? xD | ||
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i have a display case somewhere...that or i can just have it stuffed and give it to the cat to play with ^^ -poofing again bad rsoul- | ||
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but edeeeeen it's his left nut...that has to be some sort of delicacy to a tribe in africa somewhere. i could be rich! (actually lol he may get to keep his nuts. hard game is hard) really poofing now >> | ||
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is the same one i was using here... i just couldn't say that till the game was over lol >< that or you know my read is wrong and he just happened to be scum that game...regardless... -slips back into the fade- | ||
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he'll start shit fights for no reason, whether he thinks people are scum or not, and perpetuate them he won't work with people to crystallize his reads, or to get where there heads are at at least this yardstick worked last game lolol | ||
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On March 24 2015 13:07 Onegu wrote: He does this as both alignments though. Especially d1. Look at the game he was masons with me he tunneled keirathi into the ground and didn't listen to.others the two town games i've played with him had a different feel i may be wrong but, until proven so -shrugs- why were you townreading him? | ||
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On March 24 2015 14:24 Eden1892 wrote: what should those of us who weren't in it and don't feel like reading another 6k posts know about carol lol he knows what i'm talking about ^^ presents and claiming early | ||
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seriously the best way y'all can help me as town is get out your thoughts, push what you think is important, and let me be a fly on the wall ^^ | ||
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i'm not supposed to be talky talking remember? >> | ||
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no it makes them spontaneously combust! o.0 toad confirmed town ^^ | ||
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i dunnae the way FF questioned me seemed pretty townie tho? | ||
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On March 25 2015 04:36 Vivax wrote: FF making a case on a townie? What are you talking about? me xP | ||
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On March 25 2015 04:40 ritoky wrote: i think you're justified in your paranoia. he pushed some meta about rayn to try and insta-plynch me when i subbed in. which if i was another person would have been meh. but the fact that he has a 99% accuracy read on me and still pushed it is absolutely bizarre to me. considering how many of us are actually aware of the game he's talking about... eh, nvm lol i wasn't gonna talk. evil people being too interesting xP | ||
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On March 25 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote: if you're 4realz JK, which i don't have any reason to believe you're not. could you start playing like i did in mspaint instead of "letting other's solve the game for you"? lol you're cute xP | ||
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YOU CAUGHT ME TRUFFLE! (i'll only admit it to you cause i <3 you and not onegu xP shh don't tell anyone) | ||
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LEGACIES ARE FOR CHUMPS Ze Confirmeds
Nearly Confirmed Claimants
Super Townies!! ::All of the following were invigorated by the red check, provided original analysis and interesting insights.::
Beware the Sleeperz... ::There may be some mafia in here...these are the players I feel are probably town, but have reservations about::
That Inactive Slam ...Nough Said Scummerz
ZE REAL SCUM: HALF THE SKY ;o; Why can't LightningStrike and I ever be the same alignment in your games? WHY?!?!?! Clearly you are the most evil of evils! Some additional thoughts to keep in mind: - There's still something squirrely about so many blues in the game. Someone is lying, but I don't know who :/ The most likely is actually Onegu imo, despite ranking him higher than ExO_...I still believe that it's bad play for scum to buss vote as he did, but frankly...scum do play bad sometimes and not everyone agrees with me on what good play is anyway lol - Toad being scum explains missing KP...very neatly. I don't think he is, but it's something to keep in mind. | ||
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so few reactions xP wouldn't it be nice if it were actually true and i had claimed jailkeeper as the vet? lolol Jailkeeped: FecalFeast Why? Because there's no way for me to know for sure whether or not I'll be roleblocked, and if I am any attempt to save anyone will be ineffective. Instead I did my best to not only try to identify the scum while certain peoples complain about me wanting to be spoonfed and roleblock the one more likely to be carrying KP because I've been townreading them. Anywho ^^ don't hate me too much? lol (this is why i should never play blue) | ||
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On March 25 2015 07:56 rsoultin wrote: Awwww so few reactions xP wouldn't it be nice if it were actually true and i had claimed jailkeeper as the vet? lolol Jailkeeped: FecalFeast Why? Because there's no way for me to know for sure whether or not I'll be roleblocked, and if I am any attempt to save anyone will be ineffective. Instead I did my best to not only try to identify the scum while certain peoples complain about me wanting to be spoonfed and roleblock the one more likely to be carrying KP because I've been townreading them. Anywho ^^ don't hate me too much? lol (this is why i should never play blue) DO NOT BURY MY POST EDEN YOU TWIT!!! | ||
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glhf | ||
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i was an idiot, and started a chain reaction that had exo outing himself too if we'd played our roles properly there would have been a much better chance of winning this game this is mostly directed at damdred sorry town! ^^; | ||
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i wish i knew where my intuitions came from cause i've wanted to lynch you both games you were scum in d1, but i can't figure out what the difference is o.0 this is frustrating lol | ||
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oh well. i'll figure it out eventually | ||
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ls had the most votes apart from viva, some of us were switching to rayn who were on the viva wagon and viva was screaming for toad's lynch i can't guarantee that's why they did it but it definitely makes it worth the risk lolol | ||
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ppl were actually considering nking me n1 for my reads? twilight zone xP | ||
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toad would have been under a lot more heat. 2 kp, 1 vig ostensibly RBd, everyone would be looking at the vig claims and with LS confirmed mafia, vivax is practically confirmed himself me claiming was a terrible move in that it removed 2 blues from the game and gave everyone an alternative theory that let toad coast. i did mention in my "legacy" post at the very bottom that toad's being scum perfectly explained the missing kp, but i was still townreading you at the time, toad...and ppl don't pay much attention to my reads/comments anyway because of my track record | ||
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don't take it as criticism though like i said my claim probably was the single most game-throwing move in this game, so i'm not blaming anyone! | ||
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shush you | ||
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On April 07 2015 06:49 Half the Sky wrote: Live and learn. I said my piece in the obs qt on playing jailer, better luck next go. xP the claim was the biggest problem not that the other advice wasn't appreciated, too, but it didn't hurt the game for my saves to be strange | ||
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