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On March 21 2015 01:56 Fecalfeast wrote:oh... why?
Rayn just plain does nothing. Okay that's an exaggeration but I've been sitting here for 24 hours and more, trying to not mention him because putting pressure on him is the wrong way to figure out his alignment. He just gets angry and the game becomes unplayable as he throws a tantrum. That being said I tried not to do that and from what I've seen he wasn't bullied by other people either, the closest thing being HF mentioning him a lot but even in that case it felt like HF was almost ignoring him so he had all the space he can ask for. And still I don't see anything a town!Rayn would do here. I'd expect him to be kicking and screaming out of his lungs having found at least one 100% mafia by now and how we all need to do what he wants and we're all terrible for not realizing that his scumread is 100% confirmed. I just don't see it. Yes he apparently has some reads but the kick is missing. is there anything right here? + Show Spoiler +
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On March 21 2015 02:04 Toadesstern wrote: do I actually have to respond to Palmar and Rayn here in fears of the bullshit sticking somewhere or can I keep on reading the 25 pages I havn't read yet? Oh hey you made a scumcase on me while not even having to read the thread. gj scum.
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LIKE NOONE CAN EVER SAY TOADESSTERN IS TOWN HERE! Can we now lynch mafia?
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On March 21 2015 02:08 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2015 02:04 Toadesstern wrote: do I actually have to respond to Palmar and Rayn here in fears of the bullshit sticking somewhere or can I keep on reading the 25 pages I havn't read yet? Oh hey you made a scumcase on me while not even having to read the thread. gj scum. Neither of you is convincing me of anything with this kind of stuff, so nyeh. makes a case on me. says he hasn't read 40 pages of the thread.
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srsly Slam you are not this dumb are you?
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On March 21 2015 02:12 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2015 02:08 Alakaslam wrote:On March 21 2015 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2015 02:04 Toadesstern wrote: do I actually have to respond to Palmar and Rayn here in fears of the bullshit sticking somewhere or can I keep on reading the 25 pages I havn't read yet? Oh hey you made a scumcase on me while not even having to read the thread. gj scum. Neither of you is convincing me of anything with this kind of stuff, so nyeh. makes a case on me. says he hasn't read 40 pages of the thread. Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 02:04 Toadesstern wrote: do I actually have to respond to Palmar and Rayn here in fears of the bullshit sticking somewhere or can I keep on reading the 25 pages I havn't read yet? this is easy enough to respond to while reading o/ yeah like it matters if ti's 25 or 40, ROFL!
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On March 21 2015 02:19 Vivax wrote: Well I don't like it cause it's the usual meta argument where people expect you to play exactly the same in every game, it doesn't apply to me, it doesn't apply to rayn. People can change their styles, maybe rayn has become more considerate? I know mafia rayn as being more disruptive than town rayn so if I made the same observations as Toad I'd argue in the opposite direction.
go look at any game i have played (except for JOAT) last three months. Yes you are right, Toad is mafia.
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On March 21 2015 02:20 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 02:19 Vivax wrote:On March 21 2015 01:55 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 21 2015 01:53 Toadesstern wrote: Holy crap 25 pages I have to read... so anyways here's where I'm at for the day withouth reading that yet but having thought about what I already know:
Starting with obvious things that don't need that much explanation because duh, it's in my filter: Palmar is mafia
Artanis I think has a decent chance to flip mafia. He has done a lot more though ever since he got some heat. Have not yet figured out if him going everywhere and voting whatever comes in front of his visor is particularly townish or scummy yet.
Rayn just plain does nothing. Okay that's an exaggeration but I've been sitting here for 24 hours and more, trying to not mention him because putting pressure on him is the wrong way to figure out his alignment. He just gets angry and the game becomes unplayable as he throws a tantrum. That being said I tried not to do that and from what I've seen he wasn't bullied by other people either, the closest thing being HF mentioning him a lot but even in that case it felt like HF was almost ignoring him so he had all the space he can ask for. And still I don't see anything a town!Rayn would do here. I'd expect him to be kicking and screaming out of his lungs having found at least one 100% mafia by now and how we all need to do what he wants and we're all terrible for not realizing that his scumread is 100% confirmed. I just don't see it. Yes he apparently has some reads but the kick is missing.
on to people I havn't realy read and it's more of a gut-read:
SL I still feel very strongly about just being a lynchbait. I don't even have a read on him, he's pretty much null for me but I just don't see this emoticon thing being a thing. The reason for which he got a target early on was stupid and I think he among myself was the easy (easier) place to dump votes onto for mafia or start a mislynch. I'm not going to lynch that unless someone shows me something big that happened in the last 25 pages about him.
Damdred/Vivax/LS, Damdred actually feels decent in my books even though he's feeling under the radar. Not sure why, but I like the way he's posting with not the slightest care&fear in the world. Would not want to lynch that today. Vivax feels very odd. Same slightly under the radar feel despite actually having a decent filter (which is a bad sign) but he at the same time just doesn't feel right like damdred does. If we're going for a lurker / under the radar. LS seems very political correct. I mostly remember him for talking about how he co-hosted or hosted one of the games I played in (either hammer or Joat I guess) and explaining how my stance might make sense. Easy stuff to talk about, add that up with actually thinking I'm town (apparently?) and I get the shivers. Like I said, I get the feeling a lot of mafias just tend to give me townreads or nullreads based on my lenghty posts and it didn't feel like with other people like Eden who actually read my posts.
So with that being said I'd be up for lynching Palmar / Artanis+Rayn / Vivax+LS right now. Maybe some of the other guys that I havn't bothered looking into yet. Can't remember a thing Onegu or breshke have said for that matter. But that's my stance for now and I'll start reading o/ this guy is town. I like the way he looks at rayn. Like a lot Well I don't like it cause it's the usual meta argument where people expect you to play exactly the same in every game, it doesn't apply to me, it doesn't apply to rayn. People can change their styles, maybe rayn has become more considerate? I know mafia rayn as being more disruptive than town rayn so if I made the same observations as Toad I'd argue in the opposite direction. how is it just solely based on meta and an exaggeration? if you get rid of the meta then it just leaves rayn has reads and he isn't driving them home like he should be and isn't really doing anything I love how you jsut keep making terrible arguments Holyflare.
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If Holyflare can't deduce why Toad is mafia he is scum too.
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Toadesstern why do you make a read on me where everything is false without having read the thread?
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On March 21 2015 02:30 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Toadesstern why do you make a read on me where everything is false without having read the thread? on a scale from 0 to 100, how certain are you that I am mafia? If you say 100 I'm willing to lynch Vivax before lynching into you. Answer the question please.
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On March 21 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 02:30 Toadesstern wrote:On March 21 2015 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Toadesstern why do you make a read on me where everything is false without having read the thread? on a scale from 0 to 100, how certain are you that I am mafia? If you say 100 I'm willing to lynch Vivax before lynching into you. Answer the question please.
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On March 21 2015 02:33 Toadesstern wrote: @Rayn: I don't think it's wrong, that's why You can'r know if it's wrong or right if you have not read the thread. So you are scum because you make a read without having the evidence of making such read.
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On March 21 2015 02:37 Toadesstern wrote: Okay seriously rayn I have no idea what's wrong with you atm except for the fact that I said something about you, which you apparently don't like.
You mention 2 things: 1) Me not having read the thread (the last 25 pages of it) 2) Me throwing out reads before having completly read it
The 2nd one is np at all, in fact the quote I directed to Vivax to show him that I don't consider myself someone on the levels as Marv/HF when playing town even shows that I'm doing that on a regular basis to give some updates on my thought process. It's from Hammertime, I was town in that game. #2 done?
About #1. I'm sorry I have to sleep at some point and I didn't really have time to read until I got back in here. I'm not awake and reading 24/7. What are you even getting at here? Do not ignore the question and try to walk around it.
How can you make a read on me when you don't have the information to make a read on me?
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This game is easy: Toadesstern LightningStrike Artanis Superbia rsoultin
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Vivax is town VE, kill Toad.
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you can kill me on D2 if i am not but you are scum anyways rsoultin. so you can't,
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