EPTI think i confused you with the "damdred and onegu are the scum that win in final 4 " comment. I ment that you two were the like least in the PoE so mafia is not likely to push on you if you are mafia because you are the ones that need to survive the final 4. Hence i think ritoky is mafia and him trying to bury you is another reason i think your town
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I think i confused you with the "damdred and onegu are the scum that win in final 4 " comment. I ment that you two were the like least in the PoE so mafia is not likely to push on you if you are mafia because you are the ones that need to survive the final 4. Hence i think ritoky is mafia and him trying to bury you is another reason i think your town | ||
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On April 01 2015 04:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Guys I just had sort of a eureka moment: I don't think Breshke and Onegu are likely to be scum together simply for the miscommunication they had with Breshke voting Onegu first for his strange vote on him, then switching once he explained it, as well as seemingly not caring whom between Slam and Onegu was getting lynched at first. I think a scum Breshke flip makes Onegu look p good. If you believe this then you either think i've made a plan as mafia that means I lose OR im town and im town reading onegu. It is feasible to believe that i suggested that lynch order thinking no one would want to follow through but this is not the case. We lynch FECALFEAST today. He has done nothing recently. Has 1 scum read inside the Poe and is maybe? town reading the other 3. He isnt trying to work out the game he is keeping his options open. This is not a town fecal feast. On April 01 2015 04:34 Fecalfeast wrote: One of the people pushing for my lynch is scum at least. I'm putting my money on onegu I don't think anyone has expressed intrest in lynching fecal today other than me this post from onegu. On March 31 2015 22:59 Onegu wrote: Ok yeah I guess that makes sense, would be willing to lunch FF over you. FF doesn't try and analyse me at all even though my filter is probably easily on of the smallest in the game. He just defaults to his onegu scum read he doesn't care about my alignment because he know he doesn't need to push my lynch because im in the shit already. ##Vote Fecalfeast | ||
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On April 01 2015 11:09 Fecalfeast wrote: yeah I don't think onegu expressed any interest in killing me. I went to the voting thread to omgus you, saw onegu voting you already. Conflicted He was referring to me when he said kill it with fire not you. | ||
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That being said being in the POE makes this easier for us. You obly need to find one town if you are town because realisticly none of the others are getting lynched so if they are mafia they just win. I could probably be persuaded to lynch ritoky first but idk i think itd better to lynch you first since everyone is just letting you coast | ||
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On April 01 2015 12:03 Fecalfeast wrote: Why do you think onegu isn't scum? Or at least not scum ahead of me and ritoky? Sorry i got busy. Its along the lines of the HF kill is really self harming as mafia. Also his plays seem town motivated. Im really tied or id go more into it. Might not be around for deadline (maybe around a couple hours beforehand) but im not sure if that matters. I would endorse lynching ritoky aswell but i think its better to go fecal first since noone seems to care about him. | ||
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On April 02 2015 05:00 Trfel wrote: Notes on Breshke
I will be gone until after End of Day, though I might be able to get back shortly before it. If Breshke isn't lynched today, there had better be really good reasons why. First dotpoint I said that my eden and rso townread probably didnt matter at that point because they were obvious town and most people recognized that. So when rso asked meif i was caught up ii felt weak just bringing that to the table. Its true i did like two of slams posts and its also true that i can't read him. These two things do not have to be mutually exclusive. I liked the posts but history has shown i am bad at reading him. I asked eden about HF/slam because it really felt like 2 town fighting which i believe i stated in the thread. This as because they were having a shitfight and no one in the thead interfered they just let it happen which is more likely to happen with towns than mafia. Once again i asked eden about it because he was a townread of mine and because i can not read slam very well. I ask questions to form my own opinions. Second Dotpoint This is true and i didn't push it later and I thought you would understand why since it was because of you and our discussion about it. This is the post that largley changed my mind. On March 20 2015 09:09 Trfel wrote: I don't think that the argument between Palmar and Toadesstern says much about Palmar's alignment, but I do think it suggests that Toadesstern is town. As for it not making Palmar scum, Palmar's played really lazily for many games lately (Linux, Down Under 2, etc). Palmar also really likes to use tonereads. I can understand Palmar seeing Toadesstern's opening, and remembering it being different from the heavily formatted, fancy, and pristine opening that he used in Hammertime Mafia, and saying that Toadesstern is scum for it. I wouldn't actually expect Palmar to check Toadesstern's other games here (which clearly show that Toadesstern's opening post isn't alignment indicative). And if Palmar only knows Toadesstern's play in Hammertime Mafia and this game, his scumread of Toadesstern wasn't that horrible of a play (I would still disagree, but not that horrible). I guess the difference is probably that I have different expectations for Palmar than you and Toadesstern do. Third dotpoint This is because the second i seemed to be defending SL he instantly townd me. This gave me bad vibes. Also you saying the wagons were "equal" is jsut purposely trying to make it look worse than it was. They were equal at THREE votes which included my vote. You don't even assess who they were equal too at this point so im not sure how you are even trying to use that. Voting for siclucker was to put him under pressure because Robik seemed to be able to read him best then so i wanted to give it a go. Fourth Dotpoint I have no fucking idea what post you are reffering to or how what you are trying to explain even makes me mafia. I like a couple posts from someone but i know i can't read them. I ask someone who is town reading them to explain their read. How is this scummy??? 5th Dotpoint The answer is literally in the quote above. I expressed a willlingness to lynch LS ONCE which was during the vig claims. Rso then came out with a read about his list post being a thought dump which i agreed with and probably tended to trust her more since her magical out of nowhere scum read on him in her first game. Sixth Dotpoint I don't even know where to begin with this one. I don't believe i did this?? Could you show me where? On March 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote: LS voted for vivax so that is intresting On March 22 2015 12:03 Breshke wrote: I think it should be Exo. LS constantly reads him town for meta reasons which is normal but it never really made sense to me. This is pregame but obviously LS has high expectations for exo yet somehow meta reads him as town when he hasn't actually done much of anything. So He also randomly backs off of the townread randomly for no reason even though he had never shown doubt on it before. If you are reffering to these posts this isnt me calling LS scum it is trying to find hints at scum in his filter which directly contradicts your later statement that i "dance around the flipped scum". That phrase in itself is bullshit because you make it sound like i am trying to avoid talking about them when i jsut straight up havnt talked about them instead. I don't see how you can be reading me as scum for any of this especially since you said my first few pages were really bad and it is actually really annoying that this is why you are going to jump on my wagon. If you had made a post like this ealier or as a non confirmed and people actually cared about this flip (im not blaming anyone since ive been just as bad most of the game) youd probably get lynched for it. | ||
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On April 02 2015 06:17 Vivax wrote: Bresh it's a good try but read this post for example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?page=90#1782 and tell me you aren't super waffly on Palmar. You put him into scum lean, then say you agree with toad that what he does is scummy and in the same post say that it doesn't say anything about palmar's alignment, only Toads. Vivax you are reading the bit with fucked up quotes as shit i said. Thats stuff trefel said which made me flip my read on palmar + Show Spoiler + I don't like the him and toad interaction. Scum reading toad for something he has scum read him for before. Toad flipped town in the game where this happened before which seemingly doesn't phase palmar. If he was town i think he would reconsider his approach. I don't have much confidence with this though as i wasn't involved in that game and people who were and that I am also reading town (trefel) do not agree with me which gives me pause. See this post specifically. The stuff in the spoiler is the only stuff i actually wrote in that post that isnt apart of a quote. | ||
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Look into lynching FF and ritoky next. Look hard into damdred. Fairly sure onegu is town but look into that aswell. | ||
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On April 02 2015 06:32 Vivax wrote: Bresh why did you stop pushing the notion that ExO was mafia since you didn't believe his claim at the start? I realised how dumb his claim would have been as scum. If he was a actual mafia role cop he couldn't have got that check on rso or even if he was fake cop claiming roles why would he say that she was VT. Iirc once i got past the intial wtf stage it was more obvious that exo was not fake claiming. | ||
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There isn't a reason. I was jsut paranoid of him because N1 could easily be no kp missing and mafia jsut counted on there being a saving role. I don't care about this though because if he is im not going to help lynching him since i can hardly convince people on ff or ritoky so i havnt looked into this at all | ||
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On April 02 2015 06:52 Vivax wrote: So the fact you've been TRing him throughout the game doesn't count? I spotted something about Toad that gave me questions. It does help but with damdred trying to lynch ritoky and riotky rying to lynch onegu my thoughts on onegu and damdred are really muddled. I get someone is probably bussing but i dont get why theyd do it NOW. I was also hoping toad would jsut get killed so i ddint voice any of my doubts because art was very vocally calling him town | ||
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On April 02 2015 07:17 Fecalfeast wrote: lol makes me think of scum sicklucker putting himself in an ultimatum to seem towny good for you | ||
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