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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 19 2015 19:17 GMT
#5901
I think I am the only one who it is literally impossible for me to be mafia (barring me framing prplhz green for giggles)

how amusing
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:17 GMT
#5902
So let's go.

ray, you said on d2 that you were going to lynch Onegu, but you switched because no one was listening. Why is it that you never voted for Onegu d2 then?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 19:17 GMT
#5903
On March 20 2015 04:17 Eden1892 wrote:
So let's go.

ray, you said on d2 that you were going to lynch Onegu, but you switched because no one was listening. Why is it that you never voted for Onegu d2 then?

I did.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:19 GMT
#5904
No, you didn't. Your first vote for him came on d3.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 19 2015 19:19 GMT
#5905
On March 20 2015 04:17 marvellosity wrote:
I think I am the only one who it is literally impossible for me to be mafia (barring me framing prplhz green for giggles)

how amusing

we're confirmed the same way?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 19 2015 19:19 GMT
#5906
like, i could be framer framing myself, you could be framer framing yourself???
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 19 2015 19:21 GMT
#5907
On March 20 2015 04:19 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 04:17 marvellosity wrote:
I think I am the only one who it is literally impossible for me to be mafia (barring me framing prplhz green for giggles)

how amusing

we're confirmed the same way?

oh yeah that's right
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 19:21 GMT
#5908
Oh right i apparently didn't.
I got caught up with Eden's bullshit vote on Palmar.
Doesn't change the fact i wanted to lynch him all day long.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 19 2015 19:21 GMT
#5909
this is all shits and giggles, I attach 0% probability to this and if it is the case, Holyflare should never host again and the game is invalid
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:22 GMT
#5910
On March 14 2015 23:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For anyone who thinks i am mafia i shoot marv 100% of the times in this game's N1. 100%. Because i am not stupid.
So you can't really think i am mafia without marv being also mafia which is a retarded assumption in the first place given how this game has went.

I don't really who is mafia, Onegu and ritoky are least town. I am going to sheep marv because i trust his reads.
##vote ritoky

This is your post from when you voted ritoky. Does that look like a "push" on Onegu to anyone else in the room?

On March 14 2015 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I base my ritoky townread on the these facts:
- I know i am town, i was the opposing wagon to JAT
- I don't think JAT would bus, i don't think JAT would give up because there was a lot of time left
- Everyone was at least sorta scumreading (or null-reading) ritoky at that point
- therefore he is the easiest wagon to push (besides Onegu, which is one of the reasons i think Onegu is mafia)
- JAT pushes ritoky
- JAT did not give up in my opinion, he was coasting by with me being on the chopping block. When i made my case on him, he got SHIT ACTIVE when suddenly HE is the one being (at least possibly) lynched.

The only reason i would think ritoky is mafia is if JAT just gave up. Which is clearly not the case here. Even more ridiculous is to say i am mafia with him. There are many things (besides the JAT lynch) that point towards me being town so fucking heavily. So Koshi, go read again. Or rather:

- Do you think i gave up? I don't give up as scum, or if i do i just antagonize marv.
- Do you think there is a fucking world (after Noir) where i do not kill marv on N1?

This is why you townread ritoky. I explained why I flip-flopped. Time for you to explain yours.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 19:24 GMT
#5911
i sheeped marv. what is there to explain?
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:24 GMT
#5912
Why did you sheep marv onto someone you had made a strong town case for???
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 19:26 GMT
#5913
On March 20 2015 04:24 Eden1892 wrote:
Why did you sheep marv onto someone you had made a strong town case for???

because i can be wrong and he can be right.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 19:27 GMT
#5914
Like did you even read what was going on in the thread at that time?
you just take some posts out of context and say they are scummy.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:33 GMT
#5915
On March 20 2015 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 04:24 Eden1892 wrote:
Why did you sheep marv onto someone you had made a strong town case for???

because i can be wrong and he can be right.

This is a really bad reason and I don't think I believe it. This is worse than my reason and my reason was pretty bad. I can at least excuse my reason with a bout of irrational frustration. You're treating it like a calculated decision, which makes no sense for someone with a strong townread to do without any engagement with marv about the issue.

I want everyone to go through ray's filter and ctrl-f "onegu" for me. This is roughly what you'll find:

- A lot of unexplained flip-flops early on Onegu. ray starts off townreading Onegu early, then completely retracts his townread, claiming that if Onegu were mafia, Onegu would want to avoid townreading ray but also avoid scumreading him either. Onegu responds by claiming ray is 100% town, which apparently does not affect ray's read on Onegu.
- ray briefly acknowledges that Onegu's vote "looks good" for him, but then throughout d2 is talking about Onegu being a good lynch and ritoky being town.
- Despite the above, ray sheeps marv onto the guy he had a strong townread on without debating the issue with marv first. He also never votes for Onegu, despite now trying to claim credit for pushing Onegu. Additionally, he never makes a concerted push on Onegu d2.
- He comes out voting for Onegu immediately on d3. Given the above, this looks like a bus he planned in the night. He ends up flipping onto me when he thinks he can get me lynched, but then moves back as soon as the tide shifts toward Onegu at the end.

This to me looks like someone who didn't know what to do with his partner early, then looked for an out to not lynch his partner, then decided to commit to the bus on his partner. The evolution of this read is more than a little sketchy.

ray, you're going to need to explain how your read evolved on Onegu like Palmar explained how his d1 reads evolved.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 19:38 GMT
#5916
I am not explaining you anything.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:40 GMT
#5917
Cool, get lynched tomorrow. If people sheep me after I die one way or another and you flip scum and we win, that's fine by me.

But I'm not backing down. I'm staking my spotless ML streak on this. You are mafia.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 19:42 GMT
#5918
Nope i am not.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 19:47 GMT
#5919
Yeah, ya are.

I'd like to submit to the court, once more, that the n1 actions still make 0 sense if ray is town.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 19:50 GMT
#5920
btw if you are town in this game Eden i will go back to never read any of your posts in any game and just sheep people when they want to lynch you because your posting is impossible to read. You take points from some point of the game and make about ten different conclusions of them and try to push every of them after another. It is fucking impossible to figure out where your head actually is at any point of the game because you just make up a narrative for about every single person to be mafia in every situation in the game.

that is not playing mafia, that is paranoia.
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