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On February 24 2015 09:09 Snarfs wrote: Nvmd found them. I assume you're referring to Nomination and This Town. Okay, great. Do you prefer to play as mafia or town? No preference I have no problems adapting my play style to fit whatever I am given. I actually enjoy completely changing how I play game to game, but obviously that won't be evident since this is my first game here. | ||
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On February 24 2015 10:00 Eden1892 wrote: I've never played this game on TL and I am really bad at it in other venues Trying to out sarcasm damdred? | ||
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On February 24 2015 10:03 Eden1892 wrote: Testing my Bluff rank. Looks like the DC was too high to be meaningful hmm yeah you were probably missing something critical for your success. | ||
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On February 24 2015 10:06 Probulous wrote: ROFL, what I meant was with 10 townies and 3 mafia, there is a much higher chance on lynching town if the lynch is completely randomised. Eden, what makes you "bad" at this game? I would argue that there is a higher chance of lynching town if it is NOT random, but then you would lose out on any information. The theory behind this is that the mafia know each other and the town do not (on average). This leads to mafia not only have a numbers advantage in that there is a higher chance that town get lynched, but they will also work together to absolutely make sure one of their own do not die day one. Granted I am sure they screw up from time to time and do get lynched day 1, but to say that there is a higher chance of lynching town at random, I believe that to be false. | ||
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On February 24 2015 10:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Have you been lurking all this time? If so I may just have to OMGUS you. History - OMGUS The term was introduced by GL mafia player Purgation in GL mafia game 29 on 08-12-2001 04:13 AM. The sequence of posts went as follows: Ryoushi: I am going to Vote: Purgation because I don't like any of the other bandwagons. Purgation: OMG, you suck. Vote Ryoushi. Ryoushi: I didn't expect that kind of response, though... | ||
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On February 24 2015 10:43 Damdred wrote: Lol tormented there is no mayor. Really ask now. Also yam is good shot at...town. discuss while I'm gone True, but I would have liked to see what he said to the question. lol :p | ||
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Player List 1) Probulous (filter) - town 2) Artanis[Xp] (filter) - town or overly aggressive mafia 3) Half the Sky (filter) - town 4) sicklucker (filter) - town 5) Tronak (filter) - no clue 6) Yamato77 (filter) - mafia 7) _Tormented_ (filter) - town 8) Node (filter) - no clue 9) The Shining (filter) - no clue 10) Eden1892 (filter) - either mafia or he is just being obtuse for no reason 11) WaveofShadow (filter) - no clue 12) Damdred (filter) - town 13) snarfs (filter) - no clue | ||
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On February 24 2015 11:44 sicklucker wrote: I love how im town without posting. Do you just start out everyone as town? because thats not standard so people might get confused. the word is "null" As I explained I went to mark town for hts and put it on you on accident. Was about to post and saw I had nothing for hts and wrote town. I just find it hilarious how big of a deal people make our of it. | ||
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On February 25 2015 05:27 KelsierSC wrote: I don't really care what HTS did or w/e. you should just make your reads on me when I start doing stuff. basically saying that we should ignore if hts gave us scum reads and just focus on you even though you took over hts' role? How does that even make any sense. | ||
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On February 25 2015 06:43 KelsierSC wrote: hts isn't in the game so probably not a super useful discussion. hts not being in the game doesn't mean the reads on her are now just null and void. You taking over doesn't magically change your role. | ||
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On February 25 2015 06:51 KelsierSC wrote: what is it with you people trying to put these crazy motives behind my actions. Welcome to Mafia? I am new here and I already picked up on that aspect -_- lol | ||
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On February 25 2015 07:33 yamato77 wrote: I think ksc might be mafia. I remember him being obstinate as town but not altogether unwilling to participate. He was much more forthcoming in the game I played with him. I still kinda think tormented is town but it's more up in the air with Artanis being on the lynch as well and the question mark I have for him. On February 25 2015 07:34 yamato77 wrote: Tormented is mafia*** Don't phone post kids You had it right the first time fyi. Also, I do agree ksc seems to be scrambling to make up for any reads that hts might have given away. | ||
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On February 25 2015 08:16 yamato77 wrote: tormented, how about you post some updated reads? Anything I would say would be guess work at best at the moment honestly. Take that for what you will. | ||
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I would like to know why artanis is dead set on me and then jumps down your throat when you seem to waver. | ||
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On February 25 2015 08:21 yamato77 wrote: That's fairly perceptive. What does it make you think of Artanis? Either 1. He is dead certain I am Mafia for some reason or 2. He wants to protect someone who has votes already and needed you to keep your vote there. | ||
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On February 25 2015 08:26 Eden1892 wrote: ##UNVOTE ##VOTE: _Tormented_ left field? You start losing the argument against damred and ksc so you try and pile on me? | ||
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On February 25 2015 08:33 Eden1892 wrote: I remembered you never answered my initial probe about your reads list when yamato mentioned that you should reevaluate. I'm not losing shit, how about you actually followup instead of deflecting? My reads were because I thought Artanis was bouncing around and trying very hard to seem town. I don't know how he/she plays and therefore I am unsure if this is normal behavior or an attempt to get the conversation moving in any direction that is not aimed at himself/herself. With your read, you were making a lot of posts that had absolutely nothing to do with helping the game. | ||
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On February 25 2015 12:29 Probulous wrote: Eden, why is your vote on tormentor? he said he wanted an explanation out of me and I said why he seemed mafia at the start. Never took the vote off. shrug | ||
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On February 25 2015 12:31 Probulous wrote: ROFl tormented, maybe he is a tormentor! lol Tormented has been my starkingdoms name for about a decade probably. | ||
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On February 25 2015 12:32 Eden1892 wrote: He never really explained his reads list, and he never updated it despite lots of new info. I initially voted for pressure but it might just stick since he bailed on the thread when I asked some followup stuff bailed? I said you seemed mafia because of the lack of desire to post anything relating to useful information for the first several pages. | ||
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1) what about Artanis's behavior made you think he was "trying very hard to seem town"? 2) what about my posting was "obtuse," as you put it before? 3) what about the other 10 people you gave reads on? 4) what about the changes if any on any of those 12 reads? 1.) Just the feeling I got by reading all the different directions he was going in. Now he is either misguided or mafia. He wrote an essay with no real evidence against me and has done pretty much nothing else since to help the town besides get mad at yamato for changing his mind. 2.) You were obtuse because you were just spamming random useless shit with no value. On further observations, you are more than likely town. 3.) I had no other real reads, I just put town as a placeholder. I still think ksc is more scummy than SL in that argument. 4.) damdred is more than likely town as is Prob. | ||
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I with Node's analysis on snarf and damdred. Snarf has posted a lot and seemed like he was helping, but I don't feel like he has really provided much worth to Day 1 for all he has said. Damdred also seems content to just push people and gain information before making any real decisions. | ||
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On February 25 2015 13:10 yamato77 wrote: The direction of this game thus far is somewhat frustrating. What he said. | ||
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I am going with this for now. ##Vote: Snarfs | ||
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On February 25 2015 15:32 Damdred wrote: Well I so think at points he was overly defensive when he didn't have to be. I'd have to read his filter after I wake up to make a decision. However tormenteds response is really interesting in a bad way. I actually think it males sn town trying to get discussion going on his case really weird post How in the world is what I posted interesting in a bad way? | ||
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On February 25 2015 15:42 Damdred wrote: The whole vote doesn't make a ton of sense to me but explain it and I'll reread it when I wake up maybe just to tord to understand. I already thought snarf was making an effort to be visible, but without actually doing anything. Nord called him out on it and his response was a wall of text trying to justify that Nord was actually mafia instead. I don't buy it. If you think that makes me bad, then so be it. | ||
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On February 26 2015 07:37 Snarfs wrote: I just really dislike that I need to go back and read to figure out who he thinks is scum. If he was tunneling I'm pretty sure I'd know off the top of my head. I think it was yamato? He piggy backed off of yamatos' vote on me and then proceeded to continually try and push for my lynch and never providing much useful information for anyone else. | ||
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##Vote Artanis I agree about snarf's post and I agree with his lynch, even if nothing will come of it. | ||
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I voted him originally for his post against Node that seemed a pretty big stretch to me, along with not helping find any scum besides that post. I actually liked his recent post with his actual reads, but that is just me. I could just as easily be wrong. | ||
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On February 26 2015 07:56 KelsierSC wrote: what do you like about his post? that he called artanis and me mafia? I have backed off on you being mafia as I think you have very valid points about Sl, but I am not ready to fully commit to voting him yet. Artanis I believe was just trying to railroad the new player. He provided very little else until yamato switched his vote away from me, which caused him to get upset and eventually end up voting him. Something just doesn't seem right about that. | ||
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On February 26 2015 07:57 Eden1892 wrote: ...meh this is actually ok. what did you think was townie about them I believe it was you that said a mafia wouldn't give such wide spread reads because he would have to back them up and be challenged on them later. If snarf was mafia and figured he was going to die, I highly doubt he makes a post like he does. Granted he could just be a highly intelligent mafia who wanted to throw suspicion in a bunch of random directions before he died. | ||
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On February 26 2015 07:15 Snarfs wrote: Eh fuck it ##Vote: artanis[xp] At least my vote's on someone I think is mafia. I don't like Wave, yamato, or Kelsier as lynches. I agree with all of these currently. They've been some of the most active people in the thread for the last 24 hours. Plus I was townreading Wave and yamato early on. Kelsier has been a lot better today than a lot of other people, which is unfortunate if he's mafia, but completely town's own fault. I don't know why sicklucker town read me but I don't think it makes him mafia. He was super nonchalant about it, like I believed he believed it. Especially since it was for... not the best reasoning. I think mafia would try to provide a reason. I would like to see more from SL before I make a judgement on this I've followed Eden's thought process just fine and she/he has no real reason to not lynch me. The Shining is playing like she/he just finished reading Ace's mafia manifesto, which looks like how she/he played her last mafia game. I.E. Do as little as possible to not get lynched. (reminds me of when I nailed Ace for doing exactly this /nostalgiatear). I'd lynch the fuck out of her. Possible as I have seen the shining post on sk in the last couple days Tornak and Tormented are 'eh', to steal yamato's phrase. Could be mafia in one of them but Tornak is so sweet and innocent and calls me Scarfs which is so cute I couldn't possibly lynch him. Tormented... eh. Still think he could be mafia, but if artanis is, then he probably isn't. I actually believe Tornak is town Damdred, probably town. Though his waiting for Tormented to make a case on me before deciding himself has points against him. Almost positive he is town, either that or I am way fooled. Probulous... not sure. He's done his giant reads posts in the past in order to make himself towny. I think he falls off a bit though if he's mafia so I'd give him a pass for now. So far doesn't seem scummy at all Eden... dunno. Seems intelligent, which means hard to read. This one I changed on and I do believe he is actively trying to find scum Node has only Wave's point going for him, which is 'why would mafia say something so dumb'. But if you've been around awhile, maybe as mafia you just post whatever you want and let people think exactly like Wave does. I'd still lynch him. Node has done very little so far to help besides target snarf, I do think snarf is probably a town now, so that will effect my thoughts on Node So ya, artanis, The Shining, maybe Tormented, maybe Node. Unfortunately in that list, only Tormented had pressure of any sorts on them. That's where I stand. | ||
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On February 26 2015 08:32 Probulous wrote: Right, sorry man. I'm not trying to be personal. I don't know what his personal circumstances are. Fact remains though, even without answering my question he has provided nothing to this thread despite saying multiple times he would go away and think about things. Your logic is sound and my vote on artanis is pretty much a waste anyway. ##Unvote ##Vote Wave | ||
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On February 26 2015 08:34 KelsierSC wrote: Tormented don't waste your vote. please. lol, get out of my head!! | ||
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On February 26 2015 08:43 yamato77 wrote: seriously, guys, if he was mafia he wouldn't be so blatantly uncaring. Dude tries as mafia. Out of curiosity, why are you trying so hard to save him? Do you feel that strongly about snarf? | ||
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On February 26 2015 09:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: W H Y I swear when he flips scum I'm going to berate both of you so hard I am not flipping scum so you can go ahead and store that berating for another day. | ||
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On February 26 2015 09:08 KelsierSC wrote: why the fuck would anyone like tormented after that lynch? snarf made some bullshit legacy post that offered nothing of interest, which he obviously didn't read properly. and that was enough to make him switch off him ? yeh , no Honestly, I still think snarf is more than likely town. Also, how can you say I didn't read it properly? I quoted the whole damn thing and made comments on it for you. | ||
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On February 26 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote: ugh I just know SL is going to be the cop and do something dumb. You went from thinking him scum to thinking he could be the cop? reason or just being hypothetical? | ||
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On February 26 2015 10:30 KelsierSC wrote: yeh vigi can shoot snarf, good choice On February 26 2015 10:29 sicklucker wrote: I would have voted WaveofShadow if your interested. Snarfs is town that was def town vs town So...back to disagreeing again? | ||
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On February 26 2015 08:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Holy shit Wave's filter since the Damdred push is terrible. On February 26 2015 08:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think I still prefer a Snarfs lynch over a Wave lynch. I just find it hard to imagine he wouldn't know who his main suspect is voting for and suspects if he actually put any effort into reading the filter whatsoever. I feel like Wave's play can be explained more easily by playing bad than Snarfs can. Maybe because I am new...but this makes no sense to me. You say Wave's filter looks terrible, but stick with Snarf because of one single thing he said and said that Wave's actions could be explained... | ||
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On February 27 2015 03:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't think you're wrong on me, I know you're wrong on me. I've read my role PM. What you said | ||
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On February 27 2015 08:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Snarfs still second. After that I'm not sure, there's still a few people I need to reread but I'll have plenty of time for that tomorrow. On February 27 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Can't believe Mafia didn't shoot me, they're going to regret it. Really now...you seemed pretty certain you would be around for D2....maybe because you can't shoot yourself? | ||
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On February 27 2015 09:44 The Shining wrote: Ugh yuck I'm never a fan of these things. Thist post isn't to say I don't believe Artanis could be scum, as I can see it and I've had suspicions myself, but guys. Unless its super early pressure, the last thing we should be doing right now is setting an auto lynch at the beginning of Day Phase. If you sure he's scum, let him prove it or prove who he isn't over the next 48 hours. Tormented's instavote right after Eden looks like a way to cruise D2 on auto pilot btw I am willing to be swayed if he provides a good case on someone else. I don't expect we will get into any kind of auto lynch unless he continues to look scummy. Who else should we look at Shining since Node is still afking? | ||
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On February 27 2015 09:50 The Shining wrote: In other words, if he is your scumread, then by all means push him, but don't let pushing your scumread stop you from hunting other scum. Like Artanis himself did D1? No, I will continue to push others. Would still like to hear from Node when he gets back. I believe Snarf is town and therefore would like to hear Node's justification for his D1 posts. | ||
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On February 27 2015 10:28 The Shining wrote: A thing crossed my mind concerning this. I'd say pressuring him and pushing him is useless(see:Kelsier interaction) at this particular point, unless you really want to just Lynch him. What is the point of even saying what he did? Any idea what he would be trying to accomplish by just throwing that out there and afking? | ||
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On February 28 2015 06:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't really have much of a read on him. I liked that he didn't like the train going on me so quickly but I don't like the angle he's going at (Yamato over Tormented/Snarfs/Node and now you). I feel pretty secure in Yamato being town. What makes you pretty secure on Yamato? | ||
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On February 28 2015 09:47 KelsierSC wrote: Artanis is town why do you think so? | ||
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On February 28 2015 14:19 yamato77 wrote: Artanis plz. are you high? what is this? | ||
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On March 01 2015 03:33 Tronak wrote: ##unvote ##vote Fecalfeast Are you not sure on Artanis or just more sure on Nodefeast? | ||
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On March 01 2015 04:10 Snarfs wrote: Ah, Tormented, you're here. Can you explain to me why you think artanis is mafia? Not at a computer anymore, but I read artanis' actions as scummy most of d1. I also trust damdred's read on artanis. | ||
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On March 01 2015 08:18 yamato77 wrote: just stick to artanis he's mafia | ||
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On March 01 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote: Lynching ff is very smart. Lynching artanis is very stupid thank you for volunteering to be our next lynch kelsier | ||
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On March 01 2015 08:31 yamato77 wrote: interestingly enough, probulous has dropped off the face of the earth since his decently active first cycle. i think he mentioned that he would be busy at this time because it is Sunday AM for him. | ||
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On March 01 2015 08:50 Tronak wrote: I thought in that already, he actually voting to save him self. He votes his tunneled Tormented the one possible switch he could expect if we considered Artanis town. He can vote me all he wants. I am Town and he is Mafia. You will see when he flips. I will vote to kill myself if he doesn't flip mafia. | ||
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On March 01 2015 08:55 KelsierSC wrote: Do what you want Done with this game. duly noted | ||
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On March 01 2015 14:32 sicklucker wrote: Kelsiers not really a veteran. I only remember him being mafia once and dying to ogi reasons. I have no idea how he plays mafia. Guilty Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 3 Fantasy Football (FFL) Mini Mafia Vanilla Modkilled Day 4 TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells Mafia Branch Manager Lynched Day 2 Imperial Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 6 The Void Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 4 VII Titanic Mini Mafia: I Have a Cunning Plan... Town Vanilla Killed Night 1 6 games...granted he only survived 1 of them. | ||
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On March 02 2015 08:44 The Shining wrote: Another replacement replacing a replacement? What are the chances this happens in back to back games for me? Not sure if I want to laugh or rip my hair out. isn't the rule no replacements after D2? Would he just be modkilled? | ||
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On March 02 2015 09:12 sicklucker wrote: He had alot of townreads and he was one of the first votes on artanis it makes some sense im just curious why eden wasint killed. Well I did mention that he almost never makes it to day 3 as town. | ||
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Honestly, Onegu, a read on FF/Node and Prob would be greatly appreciated. Also, Eden is going to want to lynch Yamato I assume, so you will probably want to read him. | ||
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On March 02 2015 09:28 Fecalfeast wrote: OHhhh I think I get it. You mean one of prob/me teamed with one of eden/yamato Yes | ||
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Node obviously dropped in and hard pushed snarf and then left. FF took over and has been very active and voted for artanis, but he has been kind of all over the place. Like this post for instance. + Show Spoiler + On March 01 2015 04:02 Fecalfeast wrote: In my honest opinion, the way artanis changed his read so drastically on yamato (scumming him and then at the drop of a hat:"He doesn't look so bad anymore") I think it looks more like Artanis ran out of steam/reasons to call yamato scum and backed off. To put it simply: If Artanis flips scum, I think yamato is more likely town based on artanis' actions. Now he is all for lynching yamato even though he said that yamato is more than likely town after artanis flipped scum. | ||
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On March 02 2015 09:35 sicklucker wrote: Was anyone roleblocked today? Its really important This is true, if no one was roleblocked...does that make Kel the mafia roleblocker? | ||
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Eden I am wary of because of the way he has diverted attention from himself pretty much any time it has come up. The fact he is still alive is suspicious in and of itself. Would mafia kill snarf over eden? Eden did question artanis on his reasoning for voting snarf and then immediately voted for him on D2. That could be a very well run bus or just a good lynch. In conclusion, I do believe yamato is more than likely town, but if he does nothing today to help his case today I will understand a lynch on him. Eden remains null to me at the moment. Something just doesn't sit right about his posting, but I can't explain it enough to even try and lynch him right now. I would much rather look at either Prob or FF for the lynch today. | ||
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On March 02 2015 09:46 Fecalfeast wrote: Could you answer me about tronak please? I agree on kelsier's slot wholeheartedly On February 20 2015 00:36 Tronak wrote: /in first post ever (follower of healthstone forums), 1st Mafia game ever. He has made some iffy plays for sure, but so have I and this is my first game here as well. I personally think he is just a town. Him being completely new to the game I would think he would do something blatantly obvious by now if he was scum. | ||
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On March 02 2015 09:35 sicklucker wrote: Was anyone roleblocked today? Its really important I second this, who was roleblocked, if anyone? | ||
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On March 02 2015 12:50 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm flip-flopping on tormented. His D1 looks bad, his D2 looks ok and the in-between is a crapshoot. Part of me is saying "bad scum getting help from scum QT" while the other part of me is saying "confused town establishing his bearings" Fair enough, but what about my posts makes me confused? Do you believe I have misread someone or is this just a way to discredit me? | ||
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I have a really hard time buying that both prob AND ff are scum. | ||
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On March 01 2015 08:19 Snarfs wrote: I got family stuff now so I'm gone until tomorrow probably. FF could be scum if artanis is. Otherwise I'd be more inclined to look at Tormented given FF's willingness to drop a lot of info on Tormented but switch off of artanis rather easily. Would this be considered WIFOM to suspect FF based on snarf's comment and then him dieing after Artanis flipped scum? | ||
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On March 03 2015 08:03 Fecalfeast wrote: I often ping people for answering for others but I'm bored. SL asked who was roleblocked right away, I imagine eden thinks he was fishing for a counterclaim? That isn't true, SL said at the end of N1 that he had some information to share, he eventually said he was roleblocked. If you believe him, it just means the mafia roleblocked targetted him. Doesn't mean he has a role. I guess Eden was asking if he was roleblocked again, but I believe SL said earlier in the thread that he wasn't. He even asked if anyone was roleblocked. | ||
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And it was literally taken out of context without mentioning the reason Sl asked this. I was just pointing out the context. | ||
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On March 03 2015 09:41 sicklucker wrote: Well if im cop I only have one check which is meh and ill breadcrum it or post it at night if I think im going to die If? you don't know? | ||
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are you saying SL is mafia? | ||
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On March 04 2015 09:23 Fecalfeast wrote: ok cool. Good choice not outing your red check right way Thanks, wanted to see if he could be lynched without it. | ||
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On March 04 2015 09:32 Fecalfeast wrote: Hahaha well we better hope there's a medic because mafia knows the setup lol did not know that, but even still. If I die, you all know the set up at least and Eden gets to live. | ||
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On March 04 2015 09:41 yamato77 wrote: Well, as long as the medic/veteran does not claim, mafia will still reveal something with how they choose to shoot. Pretty much what I was thinking. Only did this since I had no one left to seer. | ||
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