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Actually, a bunch of my town read are on snarfs looking at that vote count, I feel OK with it.
##vote: snarfs
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On February 26 2015 05:47 yamato77 wrote:
Why do you think snarfs is so townie, Eden?
First of all, I never said that. I have him as not a lynch today, not "so townie." You obviously aren't even reading my filter, so let me quote the relevant part for you:
On February 25 2015 12:50 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2015 12:42 Probulous wrote:On February 24 2015 15:00 Snarfs wrote:
I was suspicious of Damdred for not really commenting on Tormented's filter. However, he said he was going to leave about two hours ago now to go to bed. Then stayed. Seems pretty towny to me. I added some more on Damdred at the bottom of this post as I was going through filters. Snarfs, this is bad and you should feel bad. The decision to check the thread says sweet fuck all about alignment. It is a low-quality but very sincere read IMO. I think it is a pretty townie thought process, cause I know when I'm town I'm looking for stuff like that, and as mafia I'm looking not to hand out bad townreads that I might want to walk back later. If they're partners then that goes away, but I think Damdred is town, so I'm not really putting any weight on the possibility
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Eden you're welcome to toss your vote in the shitter by voting for me today, just know how it makes you look.
Your choice, buddeh.
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On February 26 2015 05:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Eden you're welcome to toss your vote in the shitter by voting for me today, just know how it makes you look.
Your choice, buddeh.
It's already on you and I am getting you lynched today
Damdred, Kelsier, Artanis, you guys need to look at this. yamato and Wave aren't even trying to figure this game out. Their arguments are fucking awful. We need to lynch one of them, I feel best about Wave but I'll take either.
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On February 26 2015 05:49 Eden1892 wrote:Good job not even reading, yamato. Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 04:45 Eden1892 wrote:Responding to older stuff I missed b/c I overestimated how much time I had before work. I reserve the right to make hilariously blatant contradictions after I read the posts from after I left On February 25 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also I don't think your wave case is that strong. I pointed out that he was adhering more to thread sentiment already here and he replied that he's changing his meta. I actually feel like he's been probing people's thoughts for the most part in the rest of the game. I also don't think his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory; he could simply find it stronger than the case on Tormented, though I still don't understand why people keep ignoring that case. "Adhering more to thread sentiment" isn't what Wave was doing with Kelsier. He just floats the question out there and does nothing with it afterward. He even said "I think this is a scummy question" and then ignored me when I asked why. That isn't probing people for their thoughts. He kinda did some probing with Damdred which is why I'm a little hesitant (not enough to matter), but after that he just goes on cruise control. And yes, his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory with the quote I provided. He acknowledges a weakness in being able to read new people who say things that are superficially suspicious. A new player says something superficially suspicious. A townie in this situation would question the new player further to understand where that player is coming from, being cognizant of his own weakness in reading and seeking to overcome his bias and find a more accurate read. A mobster in this situation would just vote the guy for contradicting himself and then go "oops, looks like my newbie-reading weakness caught me again, haha!" after the guy flips town. And now who's chainsaw-defending, huh? I just checked your filter, you literally haven't given a read on Wave all game long. Yet as soon as I start pushing Wave you literally make things up (I "don't have a case on Wave" even though I've posted it and quoted it here for you) and start shit flinging without even so much as voting for me.
I doubt that Wave is mafia. I have my reasons. It's not really necessary to defend Wave because he can do that himself. Not to mention, you're the only person who believes your read and no one takes you seriously.
I'm not voting you because the Snarfs lynch is better. You COULD be town, but it's becoming increasingly unlikely.
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On February 26 2015 05:51 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 05:47 yamato77 wrote:
Why do you think snarfs is so townie, Eden? First of all, I never said that. I have him as not a lynch today, not "so townie." You obviously aren't even reading my filter, so let me quote the relevant part for you: Show nested quote +On February 25 2015 12:50 Eden1892 wrote:On February 25 2015 12:42 Probulous wrote:On February 24 2015 15:00 Snarfs wrote:
I was suspicious of Damdred for not really commenting on Tormented's filter. However, he said he was going to leave about two hours ago now to go to bed. Then stayed. Seems pretty towny to me. I added some more on Damdred at the bottom of this post as I was going through filters. Snarfs, this is bad and you should feel bad. The decision to check the thread says sweet fuck all about alignment. It is a low-quality but very sincere read IMO. I think it is a pretty townie thought process, cause I know when I'm town I'm looking for stuff like that, and as mafia I'm looking not to hand out bad townreads that I might want to walk back later. If they're partners then that goes away, but I think Damdred is town, so I'm not really putting any weight on the possibility
I already quoted that. You're the one who isn't reading.
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On February 26 2015 05:53 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 05:49 Eden1892 wrote:Good job not even reading, yamato. On February 26 2015 04:45 Eden1892 wrote:Responding to older stuff I missed b/c I overestimated how much time I had before work. I reserve the right to make hilariously blatant contradictions after I read the posts from after I left On February 25 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also I don't think your wave case is that strong. I pointed out that he was adhering more to thread sentiment already here and he replied that he's changing his meta. I actually feel like he's been probing people's thoughts for the most part in the rest of the game. I also don't think his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory; he could simply find it stronger than the case on Tormented, though I still don't understand why people keep ignoring that case. "Adhering more to thread sentiment" isn't what Wave was doing with Kelsier. He just floats the question out there and does nothing with it afterward. He even said "I think this is a scummy question" and then ignored me when I asked why. That isn't probing people for their thoughts. He kinda did some probing with Damdred which is why I'm a little hesitant (not enough to matter), but after that he just goes on cruise control. And yes, his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory with the quote I provided. He acknowledges a weakness in being able to read new people who say things that are superficially suspicious. A new player says something superficially suspicious. A townie in this situation would question the new player further to understand where that player is coming from, being cognizant of his own weakness in reading and seeking to overcome his bias and find a more accurate read. A mobster in this situation would just vote the guy for contradicting himself and then go "oops, looks like my newbie-reading weakness caught me again, haha!" after the guy flips town. And now who's chainsaw-defending, huh? I just checked your filter, you literally haven't given a read on Wave all game long. Yet as soon as I start pushing Wave you literally make things up (I "don't have a case on Wave" even though I've posted it and quoted it here for you) and start shit flinging without even so much as voting for me. I doubt that Wave is mafia. I have my reasons. It's not really necessary to defend Wave because he can do that himself. Not to mention, you're the only person who believes your read and no one takes you seriously. I'm not voting you because the Snarfs lynch is better. You COULD be town, but it's becoming increasingly unlikely.
This is fucking stupid. You say I have no case after obviously missing it in my filter, I post it again for you to read, your response is "he's town because reasons, also you're bad lol!"
Fuck you I hope we lynch you after Wave
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On February 26 2015 05:54 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 05:51 Eden1892 wrote:On February 26 2015 05:47 yamato77 wrote:
Why do you think snarfs is so townie, Eden? First of all, I never said that. I have him as not a lynch today, not "so townie." You obviously aren't even reading my filter, so let me quote the relevant part for you: On February 25 2015 12:50 Eden1892 wrote:On February 25 2015 12:42 Probulous wrote:On February 24 2015 15:00 Snarfs wrote:
I was suspicious of Damdred for not really commenting on Tormented's filter. However, he said he was going to leave about two hours ago now to go to bed. Then stayed. Seems pretty towny to me. I added some more on Damdred at the bottom of this post as I was going through filters. Snarfs, this is bad and you should feel bad. The decision to check the thread says sweet fuck all about alignment. It is a low-quality but very sincere read IMO. I think it is a pretty townie thought process, cause I know when I'm town I'm looking for stuff like that, and as mafia I'm looking not to hand out bad townreads that I might want to walk back later. If they're partners then that goes away, but I think Damdred is town, so I'm not really putting any weight on the possibility I already quoted that. You're the one who isn't reading.
Then why don't you have a halfway-coherent argument against it?
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On February 26 2015 05:53 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 05:49 Eden1892 wrote:Good job not even reading, yamato. On February 26 2015 04:45 Eden1892 wrote:Responding to older stuff I missed b/c I overestimated how much time I had before work. I reserve the right to make hilariously blatant contradictions after I read the posts from after I left On February 25 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also I don't think your wave case is that strong. I pointed out that he was adhering more to thread sentiment already here and he replied that he's changing his meta. I actually feel like he's been probing people's thoughts for the most part in the rest of the game. I also don't think his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory; he could simply find it stronger than the case on Tormented, though I still don't understand why people keep ignoring that case. "Adhering more to thread sentiment" isn't what Wave was doing with Kelsier. He just floats the question out there and does nothing with it afterward. He even said "I think this is a scummy question" and then ignored me when I asked why. That isn't probing people for their thoughts. He kinda did some probing with Damdred which is why I'm a little hesitant (not enough to matter), but after that he just goes on cruise control. And yes, his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory with the quote I provided. He acknowledges a weakness in being able to read new people who say things that are superficially suspicious. A new player says something superficially suspicious. A townie in this situation would question the new player further to understand where that player is coming from, being cognizant of his own weakness in reading and seeking to overcome his bias and find a more accurate read. A mobster in this situation would just vote the guy for contradicting himself and then go "oops, looks like my newbie-reading weakness caught me again, haha!" after the guy flips town. And now who's chainsaw-defending, huh? I just checked your filter, you literally haven't given a read on Wave all game long. Yet as soon as I start pushing Wave you literally make things up (I "don't have a case on Wave" even though I've posted it and quoted it here for you) and start shit flinging without even so much as voting for me. You COULD be town, but it's becoming increasingly unlikely.
Commit to a fucking read on me you coward
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On February 26 2015 05:55 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 05:53 yamato77 wrote:On February 26 2015 05:49 Eden1892 wrote:Good job not even reading, yamato. On February 26 2015 04:45 Eden1892 wrote:Responding to older stuff I missed b/c I overestimated how much time I had before work. I reserve the right to make hilariously blatant contradictions after I read the posts from after I left On February 25 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also I don't think your wave case is that strong. I pointed out that he was adhering more to thread sentiment already here and he replied that he's changing his meta. I actually feel like he's been probing people's thoughts for the most part in the rest of the game. I also don't think his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory; he could simply find it stronger than the case on Tormented, though I still don't understand why people keep ignoring that case. "Adhering more to thread sentiment" isn't what Wave was doing with Kelsier. He just floats the question out there and does nothing with it afterward. He even said "I think this is a scummy question" and then ignored me when I asked why. That isn't probing people for their thoughts. He kinda did some probing with Damdred which is why I'm a little hesitant (not enough to matter), but after that he just goes on cruise control. And yes, his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory with the quote I provided. He acknowledges a weakness in being able to read new people who say things that are superficially suspicious. A new player says something superficially suspicious. A townie in this situation would question the new player further to understand where that player is coming from, being cognizant of his own weakness in reading and seeking to overcome his bias and find a more accurate read. A mobster in this situation would just vote the guy for contradicting himself and then go "oops, looks like my newbie-reading weakness caught me again, haha!" after the guy flips town. And now who's chainsaw-defending, huh? I just checked your filter, you literally haven't given a read on Wave all game long. Yet as soon as I start pushing Wave you literally make things up (I "don't have a case on Wave" even though I've posted it and quoted it here for you) and start shit flinging without even so much as voting for me. You COULD be town, but it's becoming increasingly unlikely. Commit to a fucking read on me you coward
My my, what a fiesty little minx.
And yamato plz defend me cause I won't be around for deadlines kthx bby
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On February 26 2015 05:55 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 05:54 yamato77 wrote:On February 26 2015 05:51 Eden1892 wrote:On February 26 2015 05:47 yamato77 wrote:
Why do you think snarfs is so townie, Eden? First of all, I never said that. I have him as not a lynch today, not "so townie." You obviously aren't even reading my filter, so let me quote the relevant part for you: On February 25 2015 12:50 Eden1892 wrote:On February 25 2015 12:42 Probulous wrote:On February 24 2015 15:00 Snarfs wrote:
I was suspicious of Damdred for not really commenting on Tormented's filter. However, he said he was going to leave about two hours ago now to go to bed. Then stayed. Seems pretty towny to me. I added some more on Damdred at the bottom of this post as I was going through filters. Snarfs, this is bad and you should feel bad. The decision to check the thread says sweet fuck all about alignment. It is a low-quality but very sincere read IMO. I think it is a pretty townie thought process, cause I know when I'm town I'm looking for stuff like that, and as mafia I'm looking not to hand out bad townreads that I might want to walk back later. If they're partners then that goes away, but I think Damdred is town, so I'm not really putting any weight on the possibility I already quoted that. You're the one who isn't reading. Then why don't you have a halfway-coherent argument against it?
It's not necessary to have an argument against a pathetically weak early game townread that I completely disagree with. The post as a whole is a joke. Probulous was right to point it out, specifically this wishy-washy language on Damdred that essentially says nothing meaningful.
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Reposting this so people can see it and sheep it
On February 26 2015 04:45 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also I don't think your wave case is that strong. I pointed out that he was adhering more to thread sentiment already here and he replied that he's changing his meta. I actually feel like he's been probing people's thoughts for the most part in the rest of the game. I also don't think his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory; he could simply find it stronger than the case on Tormented, though I still don't understand why people keep ignoring that case. "Adhering more to thread sentiment" isn't what Wave was doing with Kelsier. He just floats the question out there and does nothing with it afterward. He even said "I think this is a scummy question" and then ignored me when I asked why. That isn't probing people for their thoughts. He kinda did some probing with Damdred which is why I'm a little hesitant (not enough to matter), but after that he just goes on cruise control. And yes, his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory with the quote I provided. He acknowledges a weakness in being able to read new people who say things that are superficially suspicious. A new player says something superficially suspicious. A townie in this situation would question the new player further to understand where that player is coming from, being cognizant of his own weakness in reading and seeking to overcome his bias and find a more accurate read. A mobster in this situation would just vote the guy for contradicting himself and then go "oops, looks like my newbie-reading weakness caught me again, haha!" after the guy flips town.
On February 26 2015 05:44 Eden1892 wrote:
Here we are just over 2 hours out from the lynch and Wave, after spending the better half of the last 24 hours on a woe-is-me I'm-so-lost pity party, is content just to fling stupid one-liner shit instead of trying to find mafia. How are we not lynching this guy?
(EDITOR'S NOTE 2h3m to lynch: Still not trying to figure anything out.)
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Eden, could you please stop arguing with yamato and explain the Wave/artanis association?
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On February 26 2015 05:54 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 05:53 yamato77 wrote:On February 26 2015 05:49 Eden1892 wrote:Good job not even reading, yamato. On February 26 2015 04:45 Eden1892 wrote:Responding to older stuff I missed b/c I overestimated how much time I had before work. I reserve the right to make hilariously blatant contradictions after I read the posts from after I left On February 25 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also I don't think your wave case is that strong. I pointed out that he was adhering more to thread sentiment already here and he replied that he's changing his meta. I actually feel like he's been probing people's thoughts for the most part in the rest of the game. I also don't think his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory; he could simply find it stronger than the case on Tormented, though I still don't understand why people keep ignoring that case. "Adhering more to thread sentiment" isn't what Wave was doing with Kelsier. He just floats the question out there and does nothing with it afterward. He even said "I think this is a scummy question" and then ignored me when I asked why. That isn't probing people for their thoughts. He kinda did some probing with Damdred which is why I'm a little hesitant (not enough to matter), but after that he just goes on cruise control. And yes, his suspicion of Tronak is contradictory with the quote I provided. He acknowledges a weakness in being able to read new people who say things that are superficially suspicious. A new player says something superficially suspicious. A townie in this situation would question the new player further to understand where that player is coming from, being cognizant of his own weakness in reading and seeking to overcome his bias and find a more accurate read. A mobster in this situation would just vote the guy for contradicting himself and then go "oops, looks like my newbie-reading weakness caught me again, haha!" after the guy flips town. And now who's chainsaw-defending, huh? I just checked your filter, you literally haven't given a read on Wave all game long. Yet as soon as I start pushing Wave you literally make things up (I "don't have a case on Wave" even though I've posted it and quoted it here for you) and start shit flinging without even so much as voting for me. I doubt that Wave is mafia. I have my reasons. It's not really necessary to defend Wave because he can do that himself. Not to mention, you're the only person who believes your read and no one takes you seriously. I'm not voting you because the Snarfs lynch is better. You COULD be town, but it's becoming increasingly unlikely. This is fucking stupid. You say I have no case after obviously missing it in my filter, I post it again for you to read, your response is "he's town because reasons, also you're bad lol!" Fuck you I hope we lynch you after Wave
if we lynch wave today I hope I get lynched after
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On February 26 2015 05:57 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 05:55 Eden1892 wrote:On February 26 2015 05:54 yamato77 wrote:On February 26 2015 05:51 Eden1892 wrote:On February 26 2015 05:47 yamato77 wrote:
Why do you think snarfs is so townie, Eden? First of all, I never said that. I have him as not a lynch today, not "so townie." You obviously aren't even reading my filter, so let me quote the relevant part for you: On February 25 2015 12:50 Eden1892 wrote:On February 25 2015 12:42 Probulous wrote:On February 24 2015 15:00 Snarfs wrote:
I was suspicious of Damdred for not really commenting on Tormented's filter. However, he said he was going to leave about two hours ago now to go to bed. Then stayed. Seems pretty towny to me. I added some more on Damdred at the bottom of this post as I was going through filters. Snarfs, this is bad and you should feel bad. The decision to check the thread says sweet fuck all about alignment. It is a low-quality but very sincere read IMO. I think it is a pretty townie thought process, cause I know when I'm town I'm looking for stuff like that, and as mafia I'm looking not to hand out bad townreads that I might want to walk back later. If they're partners then that goes away, but I think Damdred is town, so I'm not really putting any weight on the possibility I already quoted that. You're the one who isn't reading. Then why don't you have a halfway-coherent argument against it? It's not necessary to have an argument against a pathetically weak early game townread that I completely disagree with. The post as a whole is a joke. Probulous was right to point it out, specifically this wishy-washy language on Damdred that essentially says nothing meaningful.
How is it pathetically weak and why do you disagree? I said it was a bad read, but it was a sincere one, which is what's more important. You don't lynch people for having bad reads, you lynch people for being mafia. Mafia can have good or bad reads. Town can have good or bad reads. The guy was handing out townreads for weak reasons, why would you do that as mafia when you didn't have to and it might be awkward to walk it back later to lynch the people you townread?
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##unvote
Trying to catch up.
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On February 26 2015 05:58 Snarfs wrote:
Eden, could you please stop arguing with yamato and explain the Wave/artanis association?
I'd rather not tbh, not a lot of time and it's weak. The gist of it is that Artanis was pretty clearly steering the lynch toward yamato and away from Wave right as I was starting to feel like Wave was the right lynch of the two, and it wasn't convincing. But it's BS unflipped associations until Wave flips scum so I didn't want to waste time on it.
Will you lynch Wave with me today?
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On February 26 2015 05:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
Actually, a bunch of my town read are on snarfs looking at that vote count, I feel OK with it.
##vote: snarfs
wave, how is this a reason to vote someone?
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On February 26 2015 05:59 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 05:57 yamato77 wrote:On February 26 2015 05:55 Eden1892 wrote:On February 26 2015 05:54 yamato77 wrote:On February 26 2015 05:51 Eden1892 wrote:On February 26 2015 05:47 yamato77 wrote:
Why do you think snarfs is so townie, Eden? First of all, I never said that. I have him as not a lynch today, not "so townie." You obviously aren't even reading my filter, so let me quote the relevant part for you: On February 25 2015 12:50 Eden1892 wrote:On February 25 2015 12:42 Probulous wrote:On February 24 2015 15:00 Snarfs wrote:
I was suspicious of Damdred for not really commenting on Tormented's filter. However, he said he was going to leave about two hours ago now to go to bed. Then stayed. Seems pretty towny to me. I added some more on Damdred at the bottom of this post as I was going through filters. Snarfs, this is bad and you should feel bad. The decision to check the thread says sweet fuck all about alignment. It is a low-quality but very sincere read IMO. I think it is a pretty townie thought process, cause I know when I'm town I'm looking for stuff like that, and as mafia I'm looking not to hand out bad townreads that I might want to walk back later. If they're partners then that goes away, but I think Damdred is town, so I'm not really putting any weight on the possibility I already quoted that. You're the one who isn't reading. Then why don't you have a halfway-coherent argument against it? It's not necessary to have an argument against a pathetically weak early game townread that I completely disagree with. The post as a whole is a joke. Probulous was right to point it out, specifically this wishy-washy language on Damdred that essentially says nothing meaningful. How is it pathetically weak and why do you disagree? I said it was a bad read, but it was a sincere one, which is what's more important. You don't lynch people for having bad reads, you lynch people for being mafia. Mafia can have good or bad reads. Town can have good or bad reads. The guy was handing out townreads for weak reasons, why would you do that as mafia when you didn't have to and it might be awkward to walk it back later to lynch the people you townread?
Because he's trying to look like he has reads, and is contributing. He's been playing at being "the good, helpful townie" this entire game and it's been filled with performances like his post that you seem to think is "sincere". It's anything but. It looks constructed and fake.
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Let's see... Wave parked a vote on me without actually calling me scum, Kelsier hasn't given a read on me and artanis hasn't given a read on me.
All that seems way more scummy than anything I've done.
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