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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 16 2015 18:45 GMT
#18
PM GAME!!!
wow i am /in
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 18 2015 19:14 GMT
#44
Probably me.
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raynpelikoneet
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February 19 2015 05:09 GMT
#132
##vote sicklucker
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 05:14 GMT
#136
On February 19 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Also rayn why you voting sicklucker bro?

Not talking to you in this game. At least not today.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 05:21 GMT
#141
On February 19 2015 12:38 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 12:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:33 sicklucker wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm here Eden are you trying to bait a Miller claim again?

ergh, whats the point of this post LS?

There is no miller in the OP.


He did this as town in are last game so to Ls someone who cares way too much for meta it matters

was there possibly a miller in that game?


Ya.

I mean it could be mafia eden trying to mimic his town game. Or it could be town eden who didnt read the op untill after like me.

Hell he could have not read it as either alignment so I dont think its very important

This post bleeds red.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 05:50 GMT
#144
On February 19 2015 14:44 geript wrote:
Hey Rayn? Why don't you want to pm me or anything? I was hoping to bounce ideas and stuff quickly off of you but you're not responding. VE said that's kinda towny of you but idk

I am at work. Pm's tonight.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 05:54 GMT
#147
On February 19 2015 14:52 geript wrote:
How long until you get off? It's like 1 am here.

Well it's 8am here so at least 10h until i am home.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 11:36 GMT
#170
Yeah Koshi is town! <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 14:05 GMT
#186
Snickers is not mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 15:23 GMT
#206
Yo i am on the train and in 1,5h home.
Thread is certainly interesting so far. I already really like this game. <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 15:33 GMT
#209
Because i jate posring cia phone as it annoying to write.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 15:36 GMT
#211
Why aren't you reading the thread?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 15:43 GMT
#214
On February 20 2015 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 14:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:38 sicklucker wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:33 sicklucker wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm here Eden are you trying to bait a Miller claim again?

ergh, whats the point of this post LS?

There is no miller in the OP.


He did this as town in are last game so to Ls someone who cares way too much for meta it matters

was there possibly a miller in that game?


Ya.

I mean it could be mafia eden trying to mimic his town game. Or it could be town eden who didnt read the op untill after like me.

Hell he could have not read it as either alignment so I dont think its very important

This post bleeds red.

this is not a fucking thought dude.

I wanna know why, not who.
And its really possible that your thoughts changed.

Yay oats i kinda expected this to be the only post you would make as town.
The post from sl shows he is not thinking properly, as a townie shoud, regarding eden's miller claim.
I'll explain in more detail when i get to a computer.

And no. Thougts have not changed. I havd a lot of town reads though.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 15:58 GMT
#216
Well shut the fuck up then if you are impatient to wait.
I just lost my nerves on idiots who don't understand the concept of "can't play properly".
You are pissing me off already so stop, wait andshut up, or call me mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 17:24 GMT
#225
So here:
+ Show Spoiler [for reference] +
Last game i played with sicklucker on d2 i claimed townfirmed mason partners with his scumbuddy gobble. His reponses were the following: "Unvote gobble. rayn is in no fucking hell mason and he must be a cop or mafia. Gobble is still mafia but not the lynch today." Why doesn't this make any sense? Because these are the facts he SHOULD expect in that situation, as town:
  • If i am mason i am mason with gobble (like he literally cannot discard this possibility unless he is a cop which is impossible because he calls me possibly cop -- yet he did)
  • If he thinks i am cop unvoting gobble means i would have a green check on him (which is impossible because he later on said gobble is still scum)
  • If he thinks i am scum there is no way in fucking hell he should unvote gobble if he thinks gobble is also scum because gobble flipping scum would "prove" me mafia (in case nothing changes inbetween).


Like first thought was "darn that dude must be mafia with gobble because there is NO FUCKING other way he would know i am in fact NOT mason with gobble (i was like the towniest person in the game besides Damdred and Onegu). I later on thought that was stupid and dropped the scumread on gobble because SL would have had to bussed him hard on D1 (which he in fact did lol). But that did not change the bulletpoint list facts.
If anyone wants to read the argument it starts from here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?page=82#1639
and last about 5 or so pages.

Which brings me to this post:
On February 19 2015 12:38 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 12:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:33 sicklucker wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm here Eden are you trying to bait a Miller claim again?

ergh, whats the point of this post LS?

There is no miller in the OP.


He did this as town in are last game so to Ls someone who cares way too much for meta it matters

was there possibly a miller in that game?


Ya.

[1]I mean it could be mafia eden trying to mimic his town game. [2]Or it could be town eden who didnt read the op untill after like me.

[3]Hell he could have not read it as either alignment so I dont think its very important

Liek see how the post is constructed. I numbered it so it's easier.
In [1] he says mafia Eden cound be trying to mimic her town play. On [2], if Eden is town she didn't read the OP and is trolling (which he doesn't even point out, which is one of the two MOST LIKELY explanations he doesn't even consider).On [3], he says that Eden could have missed the OP as mafia aswell, which makes his reasoning [1] 100% invalid.

Now the problems are these.
- I know when i write posts, especially posts this short, in case i realize in the middle of the post i wrote something stupid just before that (see points 1 and 3) I GO AND DELETE THAT PART BECAUSE EVEN I KNOW IT IS STUPID AS FUCK.
- He misses the obvious conclusions, which are "eden is town trolling" or "eden is mafia trolling". Like he doesn't even point out those as POSSIBLE explanations.
- Especially the last point then brings up this. Look at the discussion there was going on before (nested quotes). sicklucker is like.... only answering to the quotes above his posts and not thinking by himself, critically.

These point out to him being mafia because his post makes no sense at all (as showed above) and i KNOW he has a tendency to not think enough about what he posts (as showed in spoilers) as mafia.

On addition to that look at his next post. Here:
On February 19 2015 15:02 sicklucker wrote:
Oh great another day 1 fixated on me

This is overly defensive post (as someone i don't remember pointed out) and for a couple of reasons i think it's scummy.
- I had not given any real reasons for my vote. Why is it in sl's world impossible i am mafia? If he thinks i could be mafia why is this "fixated". Like the defeated attitude is so over the top.
- The only other vote on him is from VE. Who didn't even vote for real apparently. Also inbetween VE's vote and SL's post VE says "rayn is probably scum".

YET SICKLUCKER THINKS THIS D1 -- at this point -- IS "FIXATED ON HIM"?!?!?!?
reasonable conclusion from his perspective as town?
as mafia it is because he would know i am town and i have something on him he doesn't even understand. but townies do not roll over and die when they don't even know what they are accused of.

Like yes, townies do get defensive about the votes on them but not like this. Never.




Now Oats, about this post:
On February 20 2015 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well shut the fuck up then if you are impatient to wait.
I just lost my nerves on idiots who don't understand the concept of "can't play properly".
You are pissing me off already so stop, wait andshut up, or call me mafia.

I dont see why you care enough to post this but dont care enough to expand on your SL accusation unless you cant back it up right now.

If i am reading correctly here you need to explain the following thing to me:
You seem to be suggesting here that i am mafia and made a vote i can't back up. Now how does my explanation for my vote go and worse in case it takes some time to post it? Like do the reasons for someone being scum magically disappear if you don't say them early enough? Or can i somehow manage to construe a better made up reasoning for someone being mafia over time -- a reasoning that's NOT bad anymore? I don't see how this thought process of yours makes sense so please elaborate.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 17:35 GMT
#226
Kosher answer PM plzzz. <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 17:45 GMT
#230
please state your vote also in this thread (this is why i hate voting threads).
Oats do you think i do that as mafia? Do you think i do that as town? I mean what you just said.

Also Koshi is town so your vote is in the bad place.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 17:50 GMT
#232
On February 20 2015 02:48 Snickers wrote:
Also kurami starting these quick topics. Does he have access to all of them? Why divide us into groups? Seems weird.

It's not weird. It's in fact quite genious if he does it properly.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 18:01 GMT
#236
On February 20 2015 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
please state your vote also in this thread (this is why i hate voting threads).
Oats do you think i do that as mafia? Do you think i do that as town? I mean what you just said.

Also Koshi is town so your vote is in the bad place.

im not voting in thread if I dont need to make a point with the vote.

Its not a meta read. I think that the way you went around before posting your read was a little scummy though.

If you already think hes scum, how hard is it to post even 1 line about why hes scum?

But i did, you asked me. Like you know me dude. I like to keep my thoughts on myself for some time and encourage people to think why i post the stuff i do.
Like do you not know that?

What's wrong with my case? "Based on 2 posts" is a pretty BS reason to not be convinced on someone's case.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 18:07 GMT
#242
On February 20 2015 03:05 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn I didnt even bus gobble in that game on day 1

On February 10 2015 05:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Final Vote Count

Keirathi (6): raynpelikoneet, liancourt, Alakaslam, LoneMeow, Onegu, FecalFeast
gobbledydook (6): Damdred, LightningStrike, Keirathi, sicklucker, geript, ObiWanShinobi
LightningStrike (1): gobbledydook

Currently, Keirathi is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 20:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminders: Votes are done in the voting thread (link). Make sure to unvote if you want to vote someone new. Voting is mandatory-- you may not abstain.

oh rly?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 18:08 GMT
#243
On February 20 2015 03:07 sicklucker wrote:
Like I was the second person to vote on your mislynch and helped move that along. I didnt mention gobble untill like last second when he said he wont be playing and couldnt vote to save himself so since he was deadweight I tried to hammer him to get a free ride

yes, that is called bussing.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 18:09 GMT
#244
In fact it's called hard-bussing...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 18:19 GMT
#250
Hey the cop and doctor should PM me asap.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 18:23 GMT
#254
On February 20 2015 03:17 Eden1892 wrote:
I like Oats this game. Maybe he's just improved recently but he's a lot more in-the-mix this game than I remember him being in the recent past. I get where he's coming from in general and I especially liked that he was trying to set a "trap" so to speak by testing other players' reasoning to see if it lined up with what they should have suspected at the time.

how do you conclude this?
this is not what oats said.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 18:52 GMT
#262
On February 20 2015 03:10 Snickers wrote:
I feel like this is going no where? Or are you guys just being sneaky?

I also wanna know this. Is this thread going nowhere and why do you think so?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 19:07 GMT
#267
voice mafia, Office mini mafia going on in Skype.
Join us, add raynpelik0neet to join. free town passes available.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 19:12 GMT
#270
hey eden skype go?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 20:11 GMT
#277
##unvote
##vote Snickers
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2015 20:17 GMT
#284
Like snickers you MUST have SOMETHING to say about this game at this point.
Yet all you do is tell people "noononono nothing is happening".
There is definitely a lot of stuff happening and you not realizing it makes you ignorant to the game.
Which is usually scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 03:48 GMT
#403
Process of elimination says mafia is in:

Snickers
Sicklucker
Onegu
Liancourt

Don't be dumb geript. Kurumi is not mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 03:49 GMT
#404
Sicklucker and liancourt have you been in pm conversation with each other?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 03:56 GMT
#407
Hey ls who have yuo talked wit outside the thread so far?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 04:10 GMT
#409
On February 20 2015 13:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 12:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey ls who have yuo talked wit outside the thread so far?

Koshi a ton also a tiny bit with sicklucker. I didn't really talk to Lian and Oats since Oats was playing Dota and Lian was having trouble with irc on his phone but also it was late for him and he went to bed.

Can you post the convrsation with sicklucker and the one where you try to reach out liancourt?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 04:29 GMT
#414
LS can you or can you not post the convos i asked?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 04:33 GMT
#418
On February 20 2015 13:25 Snickers wrote:
rayns list of possible mafia and geripts are so close haha

Probably because it's impossible for anyone else to be mafia.
Like we talked on skype/ts for like 4hours with geript. Koski and ve wee also there for quite a time.
When we 4 all agree on like everything it's quite impossible we are not right. Unless there is three mafia in us four, which is stupid for other reasons.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 04:34 GMT
#419
Oats we svould probably talk tonight so you can have a clue what's going on in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 04:43 GMT
#428
On February 20 2015 13:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Or scum is budding you?
It's a pretty unsuspicious view rayn.

Each one of us has reached the same conclusion on their own so it's definitely not buddying.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 04:45 GMT
#431
On February 20 2015 13:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 13:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS can you or can you not post the convos i asked?

Might break the rules though if I do a entire quotation of my pm conversation with Koshi and the 1 pm from sicklucker. I going to ask the mods if I can do that.

It is allowed in fact it's encouraged.
Just read Palmar's posts in this thread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 04:58 GMT
#437
Someone with proper computer please quote the relevant part of the OP and Palmars post on pm-sharing for poor LS.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 04:59 GMT
#438
On February 20 2015 13:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 13:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 20 2015 13:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Or scum is budding you?
It's a pretty unsuspicious view rayn.

Each one of us has reached the same conclusion on their own so it's definitely not buddying.

Explain that to me please.
Someone has to start talking first.

I'll explain it when i am home.
Work starts now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 09:18 GMT
#561
Can some-fucking-one post the pm's between sicklucker and ls. Or pm them to me.
Sucklucker i am interedted in hearing what you have talked with liancourt. Can you pm me the covos or oist them in thread?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 09:20 GMT
#562
The case on ve is awful.
If me, koshi and ceript read him town that doesn't mean he is "trying to sneak into town circle".
Like that is an awful misrepresentation of the situation.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 09:21 GMT
#565
Also there another really bad read in sickluckers post.
Who knows why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 09:25 GMT
#572
On February 20 2015 18:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also there another really bad read in sickluckers post.
Who knows why?

I don't like the geript read. He uses the towncircle to proof geript is town but he hates the towncircle and got somebody as scum who is on it.

But he reads me you geript town.
Ve is not in towncircle by his definition.

And someone is scum in the circle? He just called us all town.
And apparently oats is town for calling us scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 09:27 GMT
#576
On February 20 2015 18:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
The part that he calls me town for attacking townies is pretty bad.

BINGO OATS!! BINGO!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 13:21 GMT
#609
Yay! A couple of hours and i am home then.
Oats are you around in 2h?

Irc then if you are.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 14:03 GMT
#613
Snickers are you able to get in irc in about 2h?
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 14:07 GMT
#615
Basically in the QT i just read both sicklucker and liancourt were semi-defending ls (for a reason) but then were okay lynching him. Meh...

Yet still both of sl & ls fail to send me their out-thread comms they claim to have.
Fof anyone else, was i not clear enough i want them?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 14:09 GMT
#617
LIGHTNINGSTRIKE IS THERE A REASON I DON'T SEE YOUR PM'S WITH SICKLUCKER IN MY INBOX OR IN THREAD?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 14:11 GMT
#619
Seriiusly shaape the fuck up and read what's been asked from yiu in thread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 14:12 GMT
#621
Yah sicklucker is mafia..


Koshi tell the thread why.

COnsidrr my vote on sl.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 14:32 GMT
#629
Yeah i can send you everything when i get home.
Except i m not sure if i have the koshi log from yesterday as webchat doesn't probably save them.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2015 15:57 GMT
#651
sicklucker wanted to work with LS. I have two HUGEEE problems with this:
1) In the QT with liancourt and kurumi he literally says LS' reads are always crap and basically wrong. Why would you ever wanna work with someone you think has bad reads? Reading someone town is one thing but working with them is another.
2) Has he tried to work with LS since? I think all the evidence suggest otherwise.

##unvote
##vote sicklucker
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February 20 2015 15:57 GMT
#652
Like the dude literally sent a PM to LS saying "i wanna work with you".
JESUS!
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February 20 2015 16:07 GMT
#657
VE is town because we were talking with geript for all kind of stuff for some time in IRC.

VE's scumread on me at the start of the game was reasonable (he literally always thinks i am mafia at the start of the game because he doesn't know why i say stuff i do). His read was well reasoned and followed a clear train of thought.

Then we chatted about Oats. we concluded Oats is town for reasons. (this is for later on)

After some time i asked Eden to join the skype chat. Then i posted something like "whoever wants to join come on". VE did. First of all this is a town tell in my opinion because if VE was mafia i doubt he would have joined in convo with both me and geript (just because at least i have played a TON of PM-games and VE knows it -- i know how to catch mafia in PM's). VE had no reason to join because he wasn't even posting at that time.

Furthermore in the chat with us VE seemed to follow the same reads me and geript had (mostly -- obviously we disagree on the strength of some reads). Then we asked him about Oats. VE gave LITERALLY the same reasoning for Oats being town that me and geript had concluded a while ago. Like that is NOT what mafia does. At least not out of the blue when, in the thread neither of me and geript hadn't even shown we have a town read on Oats (i was arguing with him at that time). HUUUGEEE TOWNTELL!

Then, when Snickers made the post (before me and VE voted), i said "wow, that snickers post is so bad". geript said something like "yeah agreed". VE said "i already made a post about it". again, a HUGE TOWNTELL MINDMELD VE <3

Basically VE is never going to be fucking mafia in this game.
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February 20 2015 16:14 GMT
#660
The three things i hate about Snickers are the following:

1) He hasn't done shit and his case on geript was really weird. It was like "you are like me therefore you are scum" which is not really a case.
2) He said "there is nothing to do" when there were at least three cases in the thread and btw at that moment this game had been more productive D1 than i have seen in a fucking year.
3) He gets mad when people townread each other off-thread and poe him as mafia. Well fuck you, if you don't wanna use PM's then fine. You should be pushing the thread forwards then as it's your communication channel as you refuse to use others!!! Instead, well.. see 1 and 2.
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February 20 2015 16:28 GMT
#662
On February 21 2015 01:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Rayn I just added you on skype so when you get a chance add me there! Also guys I going to pick up my Dad from the airport so I will be back after a couple of hours

we'll prolly be on ts after a couple of hours so join us there
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February 20 2015 16:48 GMT
#663
spoilered because of length:
+ Show Spoiler +
[18:27] == Sicklucker [webchat@d24-204-198-28.home4.cgocable.net] has joined #TLMafia
[18:27] <Sicklucker> Oh you guys are using this one now
[18:28] <Oatsmaster> we always use this one Sicklucker
[18:28] <raynpelikoneet> me and geript are putting up a Office mini mafia voice mafia tonight so everyone who dares join!
[18:29] <raynpelikoneet> (anyone who is in the game i mean)
[18:29] <Oatsmaster> ill be sleeping
[18:29] <raynpelikoneet> well you are town anyways so i don't care
[18:29] <Sicklucker> i might be too how long is "tonight" where you live
[18:30] <Oatsmaster> its like another 8 hours
[18:30] <Sicklucker> thats like after deadline...
[18:30] <raynpelikoneet> jesus fuck i have three ongoing games mehhh.... i sould probably check VS at some point
[18:30] <Oatsmaster> ive never actually visited that site
[18:30] <raynpelikoneet> some people are really good players some are just terrible
[18:30] <Sicklucker> maybe you should focus on not mislynching me
[18:31] <raynpelikoneet> maybe you should not be scummy then?
[18:31] <Oatsmaster> snickers actually reminds me of players on that other site me/dandel/prome tried
[18:31] <raynpelikoneet> like you haven't even answered any of the points i have breought up against you
[18:31] <Oatsmaster> where this "influence" thing is actually a point
[18:31] <Oatsmaster> and if you post a lot you are scum
[18:31] <Sicklucker> I definately have
[18:32] <Oatsmaster> Sicklucker come on chat with me
[18:33] <Sicklucker> a/s/l oats?
[18:34] <Oatsmaster> i meant like
[18:34] <Oatsmaster> privately
[18:34] <Oatsmaster> ;D
[18:34] <Sicklucker> we got are scum qt for that
[18:34] <Oatsmaster> thats not privat
[18:34] <Oatsmaster> private
[18:34] <raynpelikoneet> like first i have accused you of making a illogical conclusion backed up by the last game where you did that same kinda thing. your answer was basically "that one thing from last game was wrong (bussing -- and it wasn't). Now i accused you of wanting to work with someone who by your definition cannot even help you finding mafia, and he is the ONLY one you apparently are willing to work with (because you haven't a lot of pm's with people it seems and you aren't do).
[18:34] <raynpelikoneet> continuing
[18:35] <Sicklucker> I didnt bus day1 last game tho
[18:35] <Sicklucker> I bussed the last 5 minutes of day1
[18:35] <Sicklucker> its a bit of a difference
[18:35] <raynpelikoneet> YOU LITERALLY PUT YOUR SCUMBUDDY IN DEATH ROW ABOUT 10 MINUTES BEFORE THE DEADLINE FFS!!!
[18:35] <Sicklucker> After he asked me 2
[18:35] <raynpelikoneet> no, it is called fucking bussing and nothing elasae
[18:35] <raynpelikoneet> i don't give a fuck about the reasons but that IS bussing
[18:35] <Sicklucker> its not even important
[18:36] <Sicklucker> If I always bus who am I bussing this game?
[18:36] <Sicklucker> I have like 1 scum read that you read town
[18:36] <raynpelikoneet> that's not even what i am arguing for lol
[18:36] <raynpelikoneet> like
[18:36] <raynpelikoneet> are you even reading the thread?
[18:36] <Sicklucker> Its a valid point
[18:36] <Sicklucker> you think I bus
[18:36] <Oatsmaster> tbf, the last 10 min is hardly bussing
[18:37] <Oatsmaster> its more like not looking suspicous
[18:37] <raynpelikoneet> if you tyry to hammer your scumbuddy you don't call that bussing?
[18:37] <raynpelikoneet> maybe we have a different view of what's bussing
[18:37] <Sicklucker> Like my plan was to obviously mislynch kerieh
[18:37] <Sicklucker> I pushed him all day
[18:37] <Sicklucker> then I made a bad reason to hammer
[18:37] <Oatsmaster> oh you mean he couldve voted someone else and not lynched his scumbuddy?
[18:37] <raynpelikoneet> yes
[18:37] <raynpelikoneet> oats
[18:38] <Oatsmaster> right ok
[18:38] <Oatsmaster> thats bussing
[18:38] <Oatsmaster> get rekt sl
[18:38] <Oatsmaster> and lynched
[18:38] <Oatsmaster> and other things
[18:38] <Oatsmaster>
[18:38] <Sicklucker> Its bussing
[18:38] <Sicklucker> but its not really bussing day1 which was what we were talking about
[18:39] <Sicklucker> and completely irrelvant
[18:39] <raynpelikoneet> [18:39] <Sicklucker> and completely irrelvant YES BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING YOU BROUGH UP ON MY FUCKING 10000 WORD CASE?!?!?!
[18:39] <raynpelikoneet> SEE?
[18:39] <Oatsmaster> seriouly sl are you incapable of talking with me in irc privately?
[18:39] <Sicklucker> Sure oats? I dont know how to do it?
[18:39] <Oatsmaster> you are on the web client right?
[18:40] <Sicklucker> yes
[18:40] <raynpelikoneet> Like literally:
[18:40] <raynpelikoneet> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478192-office-mini-mafia?page=12#225
[18:40] <Oatsmaster> ok so on the top there are a few tabs
[18:40] <raynpelikoneet> here is the case i made
[18:40] <Oatsmaster> first one should be quakenet
[18:40] <Oatsmaster> next one #tlmafia
[18:40] <raynpelikoneet> your reasponse was " I WASN'T BUSSING ON D1 IN SLYTHERIN"
[18:40] <Oatsmaster> then my name showuld be the next one
[18:40] <Sicklucker> oh that garbage case on a 1 liner I made?
[18:40] <Sicklucker> really?
[18:40] <Oatsmaster> click on my blinking red name
[18:40] <Sicklucker> I ignored that
[18:40] <Oatsmaster> and talk to me
[18:40] <Sicklucker> k
[18:40] <Oatsmaster> or just click on my name on the right side and click query
[18:41] <Oatsmaster> ok now answer rayns question
[18:41] <raynpelikoneet> you can't have ignored that because you have had to open the spoilers and read through it because the "bussing" was there buried in the other 9990 words in my case
[18:42] <raynpelikoneet> okay i am done taklking to SL, like everything that comes out is scummier and scummier
[18:42] <Oatsmaster> lol
[18:42] <Oatsmaster> well this is a no lose situation
[18:42] <raynpelikoneet> he he says stuff that cannot possibly be true
[18:42] <Oatsmaster> either sl is scum
[18:42] <Sicklucker> im really tired
[18:42] <Oatsmaster> or he gets mislynched for the first time
[18:42] <Oatsmaster> WIN-WIN
[18:43] <raynpelikoneet> tired has nothing to do with lying
[18:43] <Sicklucker> its fine
[18:43] <raynpelikoneet> which you are
[18:43] <Sicklucker> then people will stop trying to lynch me day1 like slams
[18:43] <Oatsmaster> meh raynpelikoneet, i gotta go to bed. Keep your mind open about VE
[18:43] <Oatsmaster> see yaaaaaa
[18:43] <raynpelikoneet> gn Oats
[18:43] <Sicklucker> oats
[18:43] <Sicklucker> your missing vote?>
[18:43] <Oatsmaster> for wanting me banned
[18:44] <Oatsmaster> what Sicklucker?
[18:44] <Sicklucker> I was gonna try when I get some caffiene in me
[18:44] <Sicklucker> oh well see ya
[18:44] <Oatsmaster> my vote is on you
[18:44] <Sicklucker> yes im aware oh well
[18:44] <Oatsmaster> i am not going to change it
[18:44] <Sicklucker> gnight I wont convince you in 10 minutes
[18:44] <Oatsmaster> unless for some reason I wake up like super early
[18:44] <Oatsmaster> :D
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February 20 2015 17:57 GMT
#669
##unvote
##vote Eden1892
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February 20 2015 19:02 GMT
#691
yo all on TS!
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February 20 2015 19:19 GMT
#695
i have a doctor claim. if you wanna cc pm me.
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February 20 2015 19:48 GMT
#698
##unvote
##vote sicklucker
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February 20 2015 20:48 GMT
#704
##unvote
##vote eden
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February 20 2015 21:12 GMT
#728
On February 21 2015 06:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Oh I get it. He's not actually doc

Lol I can't read

Lets lynch SL guys cmon

no
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February 20 2015 22:39 GMT
#756
On February 21 2015 07:11 Koshi wrote:
My case on you is just better than your case on SL.

I can't sheep a worse case.

sorry this jut made me not sheep you.
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February 20 2015 22:40 GMT
#757
##unvote
##vote sicklucker
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February 20 2015 22:41 GMT
#758
oh yeah snickers' vote is on onegu. kill him with fire.
like he is so fucking mafia.
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February 20 2015 22:41 GMT
#759
##unvote
##vote snickers
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February 21 2015 09:44 GMT
#789
Can the cop please claim to me so i can hook them up with the doctor.
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February 21 2015 10:10 GMT
#790
Something is not right in this game because i don't think Snickers is mafia.
Unless the game is just too easy and liancourt and Onegu are scum.
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February 21 2015 10:14 GMT
#791
Or maybe geript is right and kurumi is mafia after all. after the start of the game kurumi has just not been doing anything.
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February 21 2015 10:34 GMT
#792
let's yolo kurumi on D2, sicklucker is confirmed town after all and i don't think Snickers is mafia. He is just.. off. too off to be scum imo.

or maybe liancourt. I hate onegu not playing and i hate the fact Palmar will not modkill him (because of his rules) and i hate the fact it says nothing about Onegu's alignment.
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February 21 2015 10:46 GMT
#795
Becuase Eden made that comment on his bad post early in the game.
I find that unlikely he would say that if SL was his scumbuddy.
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February 21 2015 11:32 GMT
#797
On February 20 2015 19:06 Eden1892 wrote:
ugh, bad timing, i'm going to bed and working a double tomorrow. idk how spectacular i can be

i still think you should lynch sicklucker. i'm not sure what it is about his list post that changed your mind, because to me it proved he's been following things but not that he's trying to solve the game (as evidenced by his lack of meaningful posts in the thread or oot communication), which i'd expect from mafia sicklucker. town sicklucker is all over the thread, digging into all kinds of leads, trying to turn up whatever he can. the leads don't even have to make sense, they just have to exist. they don't exist

if you won't lynch him, my next shot would be liancourt. this one's admittedly more of a crapshoot but it's based on 2 things:
- him also not doing anything substantial to solve the game in what activity i've seen from him
- an incident i saw in irc (no logs, gg, but snickers will confirm) where snickers was pushing him to give suspects or show anything indicating he was solving the game. liancourt just deflected pretty much everything and called snickers scum for omgusing

i'm not as confident here, because i've literally seen the second point happen to me when we were town together, but i think the two points in conjunction are good enough to lynch on.

after that there's onegu, who i prodded to play. i don't actually want to lynch him but we'll have to eventually since palmar doesn't modkill inactives.

there's a lot of people being townie though... i thought kurumi was town earlier, and i still do, but i'm looking to see how he deals with his geript push when he wakes up. i'll pm that thought process to you

after that shrug
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February 21 2015 11:39 GMT
#798
Like there is a point in the game where this is the situation:
On February 20 2015 21:46 LoneMeow wrote:
Vote count:

Koshi (0): Oatsmaster
LightningStrike (1): Kurumi
sicklucker (3): raynpelikoneet, Eden1892, VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
Eden1892 (1): Koshi
Snickers (2): raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes, Eden1892, liancourt
VisceraEyes (2): sicklucker, Snickers, Snickers, Snickers
Kurumi (1): geript

Not voting (2): LightningStrike, Onegu

sicklucker is set to be lynched. Deadline is in .
Remember to vote in the voting thread.


+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted sicklucker (post)
VOTE: Kurumi voted LightningStrike (post)
VOTE: Oatsmaster voted Koshi (post)
VOTE: raynpelikoneet unvoted sicklucker (post)
VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted Snickers (post)
VOTE: VisceraEyes voted Snickers (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Snickers (post)
VOTE: geript voted Kurumi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Snickers (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted sicklucker (post)
VOTE: liancourt voted snickers (Snickers) (post)
VOTE: sicklucker voted VisceraEyes (post)
VOTE: Snickers voted VisceraEyes (post)
VOTE: Snickers unvoted VisceraEyes (post)
VOTE: Snickers voted VisceraEyes (post)
VOTE: Snickers unvoted VisceraEyes (post)
VOTE: Snickers voted VisceraEyes (post)
VOTE: VisceraEyes unvoted Snickers (post)
VOTE: VisceraEyes voted sicklucker (post)
VOTE: Koshi voted Eden (Eden1892) (post)
VOTE: Oatsmaster unvoted Koshi (post)
VOTE: Oatsmaster voted SL (sicklucker) (post)

I don't believe sicklucker is mafia.
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February 21 2015 11:46 GMT
#799
seriously if you are the cop you should claim to me because there are literally no downsides even if i was mafia.

I know what i am doing in PM games. I will not be interfering the cop's/doctor's target picking. It is literally the best play to claim to a townie (which i am) as you get to get hooked up with the other town role.

If the cop/doctor dies after they have claimed to someone -- in this instance me, i become a huge lynch target. So i am putting my own ass out there in order to do something REALLY pro-town.

And that i would not do as mafia.
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February 21 2015 11:53 GMT
#801
I am pretty sure we don't. I don't think he is mafia and after all he promised to play better starting form like now. So if he doesn't deliver he's gonna get caught anyways.

I think the remaining scum are in:
liancourt
Kurumi
Onegu

in that order.
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February 21 2015 11:54 GMT
#803
On February 21 2015 20:53 sicklucker wrote:
Snickers is mafia when its a tied voted between me and eden he comes up with the worse reason to scum read me. Then when he sees edens dead regardless he switches to a person who never posted? are you kidding me.

wait when did this happen?
can you quote the post?
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February 21 2015 12:04 GMT
#806
Okay there is a point there. Actually many points.
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February 21 2015 12:06 GMT
#807
Like i don't even know why he is asking geript about the exclusive chat?
He has himself said he is not using PM's or other off-thread comms and then he wonders why he isn't there?
Seems like nonsense.
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February 21 2015 12:11 GMT
#809
haha it sure is.
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February 21 2015 12:12 GMT
#810
and i don't even know why he "doesn't trust rayn"??
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February 21 2015 12:13 GMT
#811
like i literally made big cases on his preferred lynch target and now suddenly me being wrong back then makes him not trust me when he himself voted for you?
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February 21 2015 12:19 GMT
#813
On February 21 2015 21:14 sicklucker wrote:
who did you make a case on ve? I dont remember that who was his prefered lynch target

I made cases on you which was where his vote ended up in.
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February 21 2015 13:21 GMT
#817
Yes i was talking about him and no, i changed my mind because you brought up good points on him.
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February 21 2015 13:36 GMT
#821
like liancourt is doing NOTHING.
NOTHING in all game.
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February 21 2015 14:13 GMT
#824
yeah that's right.
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February 21 2015 14:13 GMT
#825
just don't fuck it up Koshi.
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February 21 2015 14:45 GMT
#827
On February 21 2015 23:42 Snickers wrote:
Lol you guys don't realize onegu is the medic?

impossible.

how on earth do you come to this conclusion?
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February 21 2015 15:06 GMT
#831
On February 21 2015 23:46 Koshi wrote:
lol scumclaim

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February 21 2015 18:59 GMT
#873
On February 22 2015 03:34 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 03:29 Koshi wrote:
On February 22 2015 03:27 geript wrote:
On February 22 2015 03:25 Koshi wrote:
On February 21 2015 03:30 geript wrote:
Best lynch order:
1. Kurumi
2. Liancourt
3. Snickers/SL/Onegu


Since you made this post. Can you show me what you did to further your reads?

Haven't really done much past that.

Yes I know, annoying isn't it.

No. Not really. You guys wouldn't listen to lynching Kurumi and instead wanted to lynch Eden or SL. I never get my lynch on D1. Despite rock solid evidence. You even admitted that many of the arguments vs Eden are the same vs Kurumi. The difference is eden was "actively around". I thought Eden was town. Oops. That doesn't make any of the other points I've made invalid.

this id bad geript and you should know it.
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February 21 2015 19:05 GMT
#875
yes it is.
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February 21 2015 19:18 GMT
#878
you are mafia though.
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February 21 2015 19:34 GMT
#880
ate does not work.
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February 21 2015 19:41 GMT
#882
don't care
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February 22 2015 09:12 GMT
#952
gg gl
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March 03 2015 19:20 GMT
#2147
On March 04 2015 03:17 Palmar wrote:
any votes cast against players not in the game (for example, a player called "no lynch") simply do not count. The player with the most votes at the end of the day will be lynched, as stated in the OP.

haha
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March 04 2015 23:25 GMT
#2193
wow Koshi sick cases. Sick cases. <3
geript terrible cases.
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March 05 2015 07:09 GMT
#2200
sicklucker and Eden can you explain the thought process between bussing on D1 for town credit, then killing the dude (me) who actually most strongly considers that as town credit?

Like SL has now done this twice. First do something that looks really town to me (not as town to others) then kill me. What's the point of town credit at expense of your scummate dying if you kill the people who consider it town credit?
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#2208
On March 05 2015 18:07 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 16:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker and Eden can you explain the thought process between bussing on D1 for town credit, then killing the dude (me) who actually most strongly considers that as town credit?

Like SL has now done this twice. First do something that looks really town to me (not as town to others) then kill me. What's the point of town credit at expense of your scummate dying if you kill the people who consider it town credit?


I didnt bus eden. I didnt even bus liancourt and saved him for a few days. Wtf?

I did convince you at the last minute to vote eden over myself but that was when you guys had decided it was me or eden.

Eden did bus me tho you would have to ask him.


On March 05 2015 18:08 Eden1892 wrote:
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On March 05 2015 16:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker and Eden can you explain the thought process between bussing on D1 for town credit, then killing the dude (me) who actually most strongly considers that as town credit?

Like SL has now done this twice. First do something that looks really town to me (not as town to others) then kill me. What's the point of town credit at expense of your scummate dying if you kill the people who consider it town credit?

not my call to kill you LOL

i actually didn't want to bus at first, but sl and ln were in everyone's POE list halfway thru d1 so i ran with it

then i got caught and it still sorta worked i guess


Yes i didn't say you bussed Eden.
Eden bussed you but you made the kill on N1.

Doesn't matter who bussed who, mafia bussed, and you didn't take the credit you could have.
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On March 06 2015 00:17 Koshi wrote:
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On March 05 2015 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wow Koshi sick cases. Sick cases. <3
geript terrible cases.

right back at you. sicklucker read D1 was legit.

And we weren't at each other throat about which scummer we wanted to lynch.

Good times.

<3
we must do it again sometime
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