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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 19 2015 16:26 GMT
#221
On February 20 2015 01:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 01:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 20 2015 01:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oats you're a piece of shit just give him a minute.

You know this now?

Arent you curious?

Like sure, hes angry for no reason.
But angry enough to write a 3 line post with semi proper punctuation is not bad.
And he cant just spend that time actually playing the game.

Boo.

Just consider that he's just come off a ban and probably just got lynched in his last game for "not playing properly" or whatever. Consider that if he's town this is certainly a reaction I can see coming from rayn. Just get off his dick man.

So you give a pass because rayn is incapable of dealing with impolite people.

Ok.
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 16:47 GMT
#222
The only thing we are doing is not being an impatient bitch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 19 2015 17:15 GMT
#223
On February 20 2015 01:47 Koshi wrote:
The only thing we are doing is not being an impatient bitch.

I thought you hated rayn.
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 17:24 GMT
#224
Go read VE his post again.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 19 2015 17:24 GMT
#225
So here:
+ Show Spoiler [for reference] +
Last game i played with sicklucker on d2 i claimed townfirmed mason partners with his scumbuddy gobble. His reponses were the following: "Unvote gobble. rayn is in no fucking hell mason and he must be a cop or mafia. Gobble is still mafia but not the lynch today." Why doesn't this make any sense? Because these are the facts he SHOULD expect in that situation, as town:
  • If i am mason i am mason with gobble (like he literally cannot discard this possibility unless he is a cop which is impossible because he calls me possibly cop -- yet he did)
  • If he thinks i am cop unvoting gobble means i would have a green check on him (which is impossible because he later on said gobble is still scum)
  • If he thinks i am scum there is no way in fucking hell he should unvote gobble if he thinks gobble is also scum because gobble flipping scum would "prove" me mafia (in case nothing changes inbetween).


Like first thought was "darn that dude must be mafia with gobble because there is NO FUCKING other way he would know i am in fact NOT mason with gobble (i was like the towniest person in the game besides Damdred and Onegu). I later on thought that was stupid and dropped the scumread on gobble because SL would have had to bussed him hard on D1 (which he in fact did lol). But that did not change the bulletpoint list facts.
If anyone wants to read the argument it starts from here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?page=82#1639
and last about 5 or so pages.

Which brings me to this post:
On February 19 2015 12:38 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 12:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:33 sicklucker wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm here Eden are you trying to bait a Miller claim again?

ergh, whats the point of this post LS?

There is no miller in the OP.


He did this as town in are last game so to Ls someone who cares way too much for meta it matters

was there possibly a miller in that game?


Ya.

[1]I mean it could be mafia eden trying to mimic his town game. [2]Or it could be town eden who didnt read the op untill after like me.

[3]Hell he could have not read it as either alignment so I dont think its very important

Liek see how the post is constructed. I numbered it so it's easier.
In [1] he says mafia Eden cound be trying to mimic her town play. On [2], if Eden is town she didn't read the OP and is trolling (which he doesn't even point out, which is one of the two MOST LIKELY explanations he doesn't even consider).On [3], he says that Eden could have missed the OP as mafia aswell, which makes his reasoning [1] 100% invalid.

Now the problems are these.
- I know when i write posts, especially posts this short, in case i realize in the middle of the post i wrote something stupid just before that (see points 1 and 3) I GO AND DELETE THAT PART BECAUSE EVEN I KNOW IT IS STUPID AS FUCK.
- He misses the obvious conclusions, which are "eden is town trolling" or "eden is mafia trolling". Like he doesn't even point out those as POSSIBLE explanations.
- Especially the last point then brings up this. Look at the discussion there was going on before (nested quotes). sicklucker is like.... only answering to the quotes above his posts and not thinking by himself, critically.

These point out to him being mafia because his post makes no sense at all (as showed above) and i KNOW he has a tendency to not think enough about what he posts (as showed in spoilers) as mafia.

On addition to that look at his next post. Here:
On February 19 2015 15:02 sicklucker wrote:
Oh great another day 1 fixated on me

This is overly defensive post (as someone i don't remember pointed out) and for a couple of reasons i think it's scummy.
- I had not given any real reasons for my vote. Why is it in sl's world impossible i am mafia? If he thinks i could be mafia why is this "fixated". Like the defeated attitude is so over the top.
- The only other vote on him is from VE. Who didn't even vote for real apparently. Also inbetween VE's vote and SL's post VE says "rayn is probably scum".

YET SICKLUCKER THINKS THIS D1 -- at this point -- IS "FIXATED ON HIM"?!?!?!?
reasonable conclusion from his perspective as town?
as mafia it is because he would know i am town and i have something on him he doesn't even understand. but townies do not roll over and die when they don't even know what they are accused of.

Like yes, townies do get defensive about the votes on them but not like this. Never.




Now Oats, about this post:
On February 20 2015 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well shut the fuck up then if you are impatient to wait.
I just lost my nerves on idiots who don't understand the concept of "can't play properly".
You are pissing me off already so stop, wait andshut up, or call me mafia.

I dont see why you care enough to post this but dont care enough to expand on your SL accusation unless you cant back it up right now.

If i am reading correctly here you need to explain the following thing to me:
You seem to be suggesting here that i am mafia and made a vote i can't back up. Now how does my explanation for my vote go and worse in case it takes some time to post it? Like do the reasons for someone being scum magically disappear if you don't say them early enough? Or can i somehow manage to construe a better made up reasoning for someone being mafia over time -- a reasoning that's NOT bad anymore? I don't see how this thought process of yours makes sense so please elaborate.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 19 2015 17:35 GMT
#226
Kosher answer PM plzzz. <3
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 19 2015 17:38 GMT
#227
Voting then constructing a reason afterward is scummy. I have no idea if you did it in the situation but mafia has been caught before for calling someone scum then solely using evidence after he initially called that dude scum.


Also I wanted to see if you knew your read well enough to distill it to the most important bits. Which indicates your familiarity and confidence in your read.


Its alright.

Based on 2 posts.

Meh Im not convinced.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 19 2015 17:42 GMT
#228
Koshi is here and being real fucking useless.
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 17:44 GMT
#229
Why are you so obnoxious? There is no content to talk about. And when I do make something you yell "fake" and discard it by making dumb assumptions.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 19 2015 17:45 GMT
#230
please state your vote also in this thread (this is why i hate voting threads).
Oats do you think i do that as mafia? Do you think i do that as town? I mean what you just said.

Also Koshi is town so your vote is in the bad place.
table for two on a tv tray
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
February 19 2015 17:48 GMT
#231
On February 19 2015 14:18 Snickers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 14:10 liancourt wrote:
Mars bar here is scummy refusing to work with one of the game mechanics that can be beneficial to town. Outright ignoring it puts a frown on my face. And is it just me or does he seem to emphasize that he is new. Saying that his meta didnt matter because game were thrown...? Seemed to me like if the games shit he is going to throw the game here too. "Guys if i dont play good its because i m throwing and its not alignment indicative." Nope i wont have that.

Geript seems townie i agree with things he has said.

Edens claim if u call that a claim is a joke dont know what everyone is fussing about.

Rest are still null.

And i like oats idea of using chat. But not irc.


Why is koshi a null read?


I am still curious about this.

Also kurami starting these quick topics. Does he have access to all of them? Why divide us into groups? Seems weird.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 19 2015 17:50 GMT
#232
On February 20 2015 02:48 Snickers wrote:
Also kurami starting these quick topics. Does he have access to all of them? Why divide us into groups? Seems weird.

It's not weird. It's in fact quite genious if he does it properly.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 19 2015 17:52 GMT
#233
On February 20 2015 02:44 Koshi wrote:
Why are you so obnoxious? There is no content to talk about. And when I do make something you yell "fake" and discard it by making dumb assumptions.

Im not wrong when I say you are useless.

So you want me to use words other than fake? I think your read is made up and that you are scum.

Rayn has posted content.

And there doesnt need to be content for you to post things.
It looks a lot like you are being reactive rather than proactive.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 19 2015 17:54 GMT
#234
On February 20 2015 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
please state your vote also in this thread (this is why i hate voting threads).
Oats do you think i do that as mafia? Do you think i do that as town? I mean what you just said.

Also Koshi is town so your vote is in the bad place.

im not voting in thread if I dont need to make a point with the vote.

Its not a meta read. I think that the way you went around before posting your read was a little scummy though.

If you already think hes scum, how hard is it to post even 1 line about why hes scum?
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 18:00 GMT
#235
On February 20 2015 02:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 02:44 Koshi wrote:
Why are you so obnoxious? There is no content to talk about. And when I do make something you yell "fake" and discard it by making dumb assumptions.

Im not wrong when I say you are useless.

So you want me to use words other than fake? I think your read is made up and that you are scum.

Rayn has posted content.

And there doesnt need to be content for you to post things.
It looks a lot like you are being reactive rather than proactive.

/shrug

Between the obnoxiousness towards rayn, the DIE DIE DIE scum "tunnel" on me and your silly assumption of snickers I already don't care about you this game.

Hopefully somebody will read you correctly. Because if today comes down to PoE you will be on that list.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 19 2015 18:01 GMT
#236
On February 20 2015 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
please state your vote also in this thread (this is why i hate voting threads).
Oats do you think i do that as mafia? Do you think i do that as town? I mean what you just said.

Also Koshi is town so your vote is in the bad place.

im not voting in thread if I dont need to make a point with the vote.

Its not a meta read. I think that the way you went around before posting your read was a little scummy though.

If you already think hes scum, how hard is it to post even 1 line about why hes scum?

But i did, you asked me. Like you know me dude. I like to keep my thoughts on myself for some time and encourage people to think why i post the stuff i do.
Like do you not know that?

What's wrong with my case? "Based on 2 posts" is a pretty BS reason to not be convinced on someone's case.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 19 2015 18:02 GMT
#237
Why is everyone so angry today btw?

None of what im saying is personal man. You all gotta take a chill pill.

Between the obnoxiousness towards rayn, the DIE DIE DIE scum "tunnel" on me and your silly assumption of snickers I already don't care about you this game.

Hopefully somebody will read you correctly. Because if today comes down to PoE you will be on that list.


This is straight up lazy.
Even if I didnt think you were scum before, you are scum now for giving yourself an out for not playing later today.

Ive played multiple fucking games with you.
Multiple tens of games with you.

And your read on me is like this.

No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 18:04 GMT
#238
yawn
I had a good night of sleep.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 19 2015 18:05 GMT
#239
On February 20 2015 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 20 2015 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
please state your vote also in this thread (this is why i hate voting threads).
Oats do you think i do that as mafia? Do you think i do that as town? I mean what you just said.

Also Koshi is town so your vote is in the bad place.

im not voting in thread if I dont need to make a point with the vote.

Its not a meta read. I think that the way you went around before posting your read was a little scummy though.

If you already think hes scum, how hard is it to post even 1 line about why hes scum?

But i did, you asked me. Like you know me dude. I like to keep my thoughts on myself for some time and encourage people to think why i post the stuff i do.
Like do you not know that?

What's wrong with my case? "Based on 2 posts" is a pretty BS reason to not be convinced on someone's case.

No? You vomit your thoughts everywhere. Why do you have a huge filter every game then?

Its not objectively wrong, its just that I dont agree with your conclusions on the first point that sl will delete stupid shit as town. and that he will take into account the trolling bit. He posts stupid shit all the time.


Also I think its reasonable to assume that when you call someone scum, they are going to be the center of attention for at least a day.

Its possible that I am biased against you and therefore dont give the case a proper review but thats where my thoughts lie.
No gg, No skill.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 19 2015 18:05 GMT
#240
Rayn I didnt even bus gobble in that game on day 1
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