Ya.

I mean it could be mafia eden trying to mimic his town game. Or it could be town eden who didnt read the op untill after like me.

Hell he could have not read it as either alignment so I dont think its very important

This post bleeds red.

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 05:50 GMT

#144

On February 19 2015 14:44 geript wrote:
Hey Rayn? Why don't you want to pm me or anything? I was hoping to bounce ideas and stuff quickly off of you but you're not responding. VE said that's kinda towny of you but idk

I am at work. Pm's tonight.

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 05:54 GMT

#147

On February 19 2015 14:52 geript wrote:
How long until you get off? It's like 1 am here.

Well it's 8am here so at least 10h until i am home.

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 11:36 GMT

#170

Yeah Koshi is town! <3

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 14:05 GMT

#186

Snickers is not mafia.

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 15:23 GMT

#206

Yo i am on the train and in 1,5h home.
Thread is certainly interesting so far. I already really like this game. <3

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 15:33 GMT

#209

Because i jate posring cia phone as it annoying to write.

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 15:36 GMT

#211

Why aren't you reading the thread?

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 15:43 GMT

#214

On February 20 2015 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:

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this is not a fucking thought dude.

I wanna know why, not who.
And its really possible that your thoughts changed.

Yay oats i kinda expected this to be the only post you would make as town.

The post from sl shows he is not thinking properly, as a townie shoud, regarding eden's miller claim.
I'll explain in more detail when i get to a computer.

And no. Thougts have not changed. I havd a lot of town reads though.

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 15:58 GMT

#216

Well shut the fuck up then if you are impatient to wait.
I just lost my nerves on idiots who don't understand the concept of "can't play properly".
You are pissing me off already so stop, wait andshut up, or call me mafia.

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 17:24 GMT

#225

So here:
+ Show Spoiler [for reference] +

Last game i played with sicklucker on d2 i claimed townfirmed mason partners with his scumbuddy gobble. His reponses were the following: "Unvote gobble. rayn is in no fucking hell mason and he must be a cop or mafia. Gobble is still mafia but not the lynch today." Why doesn't this make any sense? Because these are the facts he SHOULD expect in that situation, as town:

If i am mason i am mason with gobble (like he literally cannot discard this possibility unless he is a cop which is impossible because he calls me possibly cop -- yet he did)
If he thinks i am cop unvoting gobble means i would have a green check on him (which is impossible because he later on said gobble is still scum)
If he thinks i am scum there is no way in fucking hell he should unvote gobble if he thinks gobble is also scum because gobble flipping scum would "prove" me mafia (in case nothing changes inbetween).

Like first thought was "darn that dude must be mafia with gobble because there is NO FUCKING other way he would know i am in fact NOT mason with gobble (i was like the towniest person in the game besides Damdred and Onegu). I later on thought that was stupid and dropped the scumread on gobble because SL would have had to bussed him hard on D1 (which he in fact did lol). But that did not change the bulletpoint list facts.
If anyone wants to read the argument it starts from here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?page=82#1639
and last about 5 or so pages.

Which brings me to this post:

On February 19 2015 12:38 sicklucker wrote:

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Ya.

[1]I mean it could be mafia eden trying to mimic his town game. [2]Or it could be town eden who didnt read the op untill after like me.

[3]Hell he could have not read it as either alignment so I dont think its very important

Liek see how the post is constructed. I numbered it so it's easier.
In [1] he says mafia Eden cound be trying to mimic her town play. On [2], if Eden is town she didn't read the OP and is trolling (which he doesn't even point out, which is one of the two MOST LIKELY explanations he doesn't even consider).On [3], he says that Eden could have missed the OP as mafia aswell, which makes his reasoning [1] 100% invalid.

Now the problems are these.
- I know when i write posts, especially posts this short, in case i realize in the middle of the post i wrote something stupid just before that (see points 1 and 3) I GO AND DELETE THAT PART BECAUSE EVEN I KNOW IT IS STUPID AS FUCK.
- He misses the obvious conclusions, which are "eden is town trolling" or "eden is mafia trolling". Like he doesn't even point out those as POSSIBLE explanations.
- Especially the last point then brings up this. Look at the discussion there was going on before (nested quotes). sicklucker is like.... only answering to the quotes above his posts and not thinking by himself, critically.

These point out to him being mafia because his post makes no sense at all (as showed above) and i KNOW he has a tendency to not think enough about what he posts (as showed in spoilers) as mafia.

On addition to that look at his next post. Here:

On February 19 2015 15:02 sicklucker wrote:
Oh great another day 1 fixated on me

This is overly defensive post (as someone i don't remember pointed out) and for a couple of reasons i think it's scummy.
- I had not given any real reasons for my vote. Why is it in sl's world impossible i am mafia? If he thinks i could be mafia why is this "fixated". Like the defeated attitude is so over the top.
- The only other vote on him is from VE. Who didn't even vote for real apparently. Also inbetween VE's vote and SL's post VE says "rayn is probably scum".

YET SICKLUCKER THINKS THIS D1 -- at this point -- IS "FIXATED ON HIM"?!?!?!?
reasonable conclusion from his perspective as town?
as mafia it is because he would know i am town and i have something on him he doesn't even understand. but townies do not roll over and die when they don't even know what they are accused of.

Like yes, townies do get defensive about the votes on them but not like this. Never.

Now Oats, about this post:

On February 20 2015 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:

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I dont see why you care enough to post this but dont care enough to expand on your SL accusation unless you cant back it up right now.

If i am reading correctly here you need to explain the following thing to me:
You seem to be suggesting here that i am mafia and made a vote i can't back up. Now how does my explanation for my vote go and worse in case it takes some time to post it? Like do the reasons for someone being scum magically disappear if you don't say them early enough? Or can i somehow manage to construe a better made up reasoning for someone being mafia over time -- a reasoning that's NOT bad anymore? I don't see how this thought process of yours makes sense so please elaborate.

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 17:35 GMT

#226

Kosher answer PM plzzz. <3

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 17:45 GMT

#230

please state your vote also in this thread (this is why i hate voting threads).
Oats do you think i do that as mafia? Do you think i do that as town? I mean what you just said.

Also Koshi is town so your vote is in the bad place.

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 17:50 GMT

#232

On February 20 2015 02:48 Snickers wrote:
Also kurami starting these quick topics. Does he have access to all of them? Why divide us into groups? Seems weird.

It's not weird. It's in fact quite genious if he does it properly.

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 18:01 GMT

#236

On February 20 2015 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:

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im not voting in thread if I dont need to make a point with the vote.

Its not a meta read. I think that the way you went around before posting your read was a little scummy though.

If you already think hes scum, how hard is it to post even 1 line about why hes scum?

But i did, you asked me. Like you know me dude. I like to keep my thoughts on myself for some time and encourage people to think why i post the stuff i do.
Like do you not know that?

What's wrong with my case? "Based on 2 posts" is a pretty BS reason to not be convinced on someone's case.

raynpelikoneet

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February 19 2015 18:07 GMT

#242

On February 20 2015 03:05 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn I didnt even bus gobble in that game on day 1

On February 10 2015 05:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Final Vote Count

Keirathi (6): raynpelikoneet, liancourt, Alakaslam, LoneMeow, Onegu, FecalFeast
gobbledydook (6): Damdred, LightningStrike, Keirathi, sicklucker, geript, ObiWanShinobi
LightningStrike (1): gobbledydook

Currently, Keirathi is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 20:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminders: Votes are done in the voting thread (link). Make sure to unvote if you want to vote someone new. Voting is mandatory-- you may not abstain.

oh rly?