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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 15 2015 19:26 GMT
#6
/in

Original Message From kitaman27:
These exclude newbies and themed minis

13 player:
14 mafia wins, 13 town wins, 2 third party wins

12 player:
15 mafia wins, 5 town wins, 1 third party wins

Heh wow that's kinda lopsided....although apparently not as bad as 10 player setups which have a 100% win percentage for mafia (in 1 game)



In it to change some stats.


I also watched 7 seasons of The Office. Did it become a dumb reality soap after Michael left.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 17 2015 22:35 GMT
#33
Just because scum is too lazy to pm properly.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 00:22 GMT
#62
Snickers don't downplay yourself bro. Do that thing you do with the catching of liars and manipulations. I know you are a boss at that.


To town: We need a couple good posts in this thread as well. We can't play this entire game in PM land. But we will play it there as well. If you have a good chain with somebody in PM land, consider sharing it with the thread after it is "finished". The bigger the better. Even if there is nothing of value in it, just put it in the thread as a spoiler.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 09:17 GMT
#161
Well this game is boring.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 09:25 GMT
#163
:/
You hacked bro?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 10:50 GMT
#166
I have no idea. I typed stuff that I wanted to type.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 11:11 GMT
#167
On February 19 2015 10:10 Snickers wrote:
Those two questions seem very different. Maybe I am just paranoid.

I think that because you are asking a lot of questions. Specifically asking me why i am trying to look townie. But you never said anything to eden about miller claim? Which is a vt claim right?

Idk you are looking more and more like mafia to me.

This looks like mafia scumhunting. Or pretending to scumhunt.

The problem I have with these 2 questions is that the first one is a fine question that puts pressure on geript:
"But you never said anything to eden about miller claim?"
Which is an ok question to ask because geript is going for snickers his balls and ignores Eden. So some inquiry about this is fine.

But the second one completely destroys that purpose and shows some fear/weakness from Snickers:
"Which is a vt claim right?"
The last question really gives geript an out of the pressure and downplays the first question and the scumhunting purpose behind it.

I might be misreading the last question, the intention behind it. But to me it looks like somebody acting dumb on purpose. There is obviously no miller in the set up, so it isn't a vt claim or anything. It is very obvious that Eden is being silly.

If Snickers would be truly scumhunting here I would have expected a stronger question as follow up. Because why does he say it is a vt claim? Is it because he knows there is no miller? It's just odd.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 11:12 GMT
#168
Now that I have shown you all the way of the Light. Follow it my children.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 13:42 GMT
#174
Awww. I sent LS a pm about how certain he was about his reads. So I could come to Kurumi his conclusion with proof.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 13:59 GMT
#183
On February 19 2015 22:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 20:11 Koshi wrote:
On February 19 2015 10:10 Snickers wrote:
Those two questions seem very different. Maybe I am just paranoid.

I think that because you are asking a lot of questions. Specifically asking me why i am trying to look townie. But you never said anything to eden about miller claim? Which is a vt claim right?

Idk you are looking more and more like mafia to me.

This looks like mafia scumhunting. Or pretending to scumhunt.

The problem I have with these 2 questions is that the first one is a fine question that puts pressure on geript:
"But you never said anything to eden about miller claim?"
Which is an ok question to ask because geript is going for snickers his balls and ignores Eden. So some inquiry about this is fine.

But the second one completely destroys that purpose and shows some fear/weakness from Snickers:
"Which is a vt claim right?"
The last question really gives geript an out of the pressure and downplays the first question and the scumhunting purpose behind it.

I might be misreading the last question, the intention behind it. But to me it looks like somebody acting dumb on purpose. There is obviously no miller in the set up, so it isn't a vt claim or anything. It is very obvious that Eden is being silly.

If Snickers would be truly scumhunting here I would have expected a stronger question as follow up. Because why does he say it is a vt claim? Is it because he knows there is no miller? It's just odd.

fake.
scum.

Look, the miller claim is complete bullshit and so no need to talk about it.

IMO last question is noob rather than scum and you should know that.

DIE KOSHI.
DIE.

Also VE, i changed my mind about geript, i think hes townie.

IMO = my opinion but there is another opinion possible.
You should know that = it is quite obvious there is only 1 possibility and you don't seeing that possibility is wrong or mafia.

Don't contradict yourself in 1 sentence pls.


Why I don't believe that it is noob rather than mafia is explained. Try to read before you yell fake and gay like some youtube troll.


I think that because you are asking a lot of questions. Specifically asking me why i am trying to look townie. But you never said anything to eden about miller claim? Which is a vt claim right?

Read this Oats. Snickers is saying this:
"You are asking me a lot of questions about why I try to appear townie, but you never pressure Eden, even though Eden claimed miller. Which is VT right?"

Does this logic makes sense to you? It shouldn't because you agree the miller claim was complete bullshit. So why are you ok that snickers pushes away geript on the basis that he isn't pursuing a bullshit claim?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 14:04 GMT
#185
trying to look town and claiming town is completely different.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 14:06 GMT
#188
Why do you assume snickers is new btw? This guy his first game was boss. He caught all 3 mafia D1 and then proceeded to get bullied into oblivion by the bad townies. I am pretty sure he wasn't new to mafia when he played that first game as well.

Such a strange assumption.

I think quite highly of snickers.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 14:17 GMT
#194
On February 19 2015 23:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 23:06 Koshi wrote:
Why do you assume snickers is new btw? This guy his first game was boss. He caught all 3 mafia D1 and then proceeded to get bullied into oblivion by the bad townies. I am pretty sure he wasn't new to mafia when he played that first game as well.

Such a strange assumption.

I think quite highly of snickers.

link game

Page 2 for your convinience. Both votes are on mafia.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 14:25 GMT
#196
I reread that page from snickers and I think that few here have had a better page in their lives.

Just look at that. It was amazing to see. He was on Release his ass (who everybody had as town) and then mderg made a pretty decent wall of text (which got mderg townreads from everybody) and just destroyed mderg.



The buddying is real.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 14:34 GMT
#197
On June 19 2014 04:51 Snickers wrote:
You are an idiot or scum if you can't "see" the scum in mderg's first post. First off saying there is a chance you are only going to contribute one post to day one. This shows his terrible interest in this game. Then he tries to say he votes to prevent mod kill. Id rather him be modkilled than him help lynch someone because he felt a slight scum. You guys must have played so many games of mafia you cannot think logically. You have these rules that you hold so highly. Even if these rules were true you guys cannot even use them right. So assuming they are true they still are no use. And somebody mentioned something about release. If you can't see the scum in his post there is a problem or you are scum.

I cannot believe no one mentioned this aspect of this game. 27nb had the same principles in her posts from the start. Confused, emotional, silly. So has ykz. Cocky , deceiving, focused. We know 27nb was town. If ykz is mafia he is very good at it. Even after the proof that he was wrong or was lying. He perfectly continues his principals after the lynch. Release on the other hand had been inconsistent with his principals. He seems aggressive than passive.
Reactionary than static. I think it should be looked into. I won't be able to post or read until six hours from now. I will look at be (whoever name keeps getting mentioned).

Also koshi seems to be obsessed with me. I am thinking him as third mafia.

Just look at this. JUST LOOK AT IT.


Fuck me. I want to see that guy play like this in this game so I can just awe him and sheep him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 15:03 GMT
#199
Oats were are you? Read that post in which I coloured the 3 scum in that game in. (scum still won btw, addind that to brag and to point out that Snickers was not having an easy game)

Now compare that post with this:
I think that because you are asking a lot of questions. Specifically asking me why i am trying to look townie. But you never said anything to eden about miller claim? Which is a vt claim right?

Because call me crazy but I think he is somehow calling geript scum in here. Or suspicious? Or something?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 15:16 GMT
#202
On February 20 2015 00:13 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 23:34 Koshi wrote:
On June 19 2014 04:51 Snickers wrote:
You are an idiot or scum if you can't "see" the scum in mderg's first post. First off saying there is a chance you are only going to contribute one post to day one. This shows his terrible interest in this game. Then he tries to say he votes to prevent mod kill. Id rather him be modkilled than him help lynch someone because he felt a slight scum. You guys must have played so many games of mafia you cannot think logically. You have these rules that you hold so highly. Even if these rules were true you guys cannot even use them right. So assuming they are true they still are no use. And somebody mentioned something about release. If you can't see the scum in his post there is a problem or you are scum.

I cannot believe no one mentioned this aspect of this game. 27nb had the same principles in her posts from the start. Confused, emotional, silly. So has ykz. Cocky , deceiving, focused. We know 27nb was town. If ykz is mafia he is very good at it. Even after the proof that he was wrong or was lying. He perfectly continues his principals after the lynch. Release on the other hand had been inconsistent with his principals. He seems aggressive than passive.
Reactionary than static. I think it should be looked into. I won't be able to post or read until six hours from now. I will look at be (whoever name keeps getting mentioned).

Also koshi seems to be obsessed with me. I am thinking him as third mafia.

Just look at this. JUST LOOK AT IT.


Fuck me. I want to see that guy play like this in this game so I can just awe him and sheep him.


so is he playing like this this game?

what about his 2nd and 3rd game the games he supposedly threw.

No + I don't know about those.
My point is that Oats is assuming things that don't make sense and on top of that I can proof the contrary.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 15:36 GMT
#212
I knew rayn was going to say that
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 16:47 GMT
#222
The only thing we are doing is not being an impatient bitch.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 17:24 GMT
#224
Go read VE his post again.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 17:44 GMT
#229
Why are you so obnoxious? There is no content to talk about. And when I do make something you yell "fake" and discard it by making dumb assumptions.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 18:00 GMT
#235
On February 20 2015 02:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 02:44 Koshi wrote:
Why are you so obnoxious? There is no content to talk about. And when I do make something you yell "fake" and discard it by making dumb assumptions.

Im not wrong when I say you are useless.

So you want me to use words other than fake? I think your read is made up and that you are scum.

Rayn has posted content.

And there doesnt need to be content for you to post things.
It looks a lot like you are being reactive rather than proactive.

/shrug

Between the obnoxiousness towards rayn, the DIE DIE DIE scum "tunnel" on me and your silly assumption of snickers I already don't care about you this game.

Hopefully somebody will read you correctly. Because if today comes down to PoE you will be on that list.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 18:04 GMT
#238
yawn
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 18:11 GMT
#246
On February 20 2015 03:10 Snickers wrote:
I feel like this is going no where? Or are you guys just being sneaky?

Hmm. You have no opinion on anything?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 18:20 GMT
#251
cop and doc should just play the game and not PM anybody.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 18:20 GMT
#252
about them being cop and doc.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 18:46 GMT
#261
Can people call people mafia pls. So stuff happens.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 20:00 GMT
#275
Please show me where I said snickers was town.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 20:59 GMT
#292
If there is so little content in the thread make sure to save your IRC conversations. Cuz we need content.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 21:31 GMT
#300
On February 19 2015 21:12 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Town:
Eden: Played with before when he was Mafia and Town but we he seems to be town this game.
Geript: Toneread says town he seems to ask some good questions.
Snickers: Being extremely serious and giving his thoughts freely it kind of reminds me of a more serious me.
Oatsmaster: Trying to get discussions going with pms and stuff but also he just being himself as town this game.
Liancourt: He seems interested this game which is a good sign for him being town although I never him play as Mafia before.
Null:
Koshi: 1 post from him this game and it isn't really alignment indicative.
sicklucker: I can't read him anymore on Day 1 after playing with him when he was Mafia and I was town. Also his Day 1 is bad.
VisceraEyes: 1 post and wasn't alignment indicative need more posts from him.

That's a goddamn huge list for so early into the game. It also seems to be only based on activity, nothing else. All arguments for people being town seem vague like its their purpose. Like reasoning for geript being town? He asks some good questions. If not all, which ones then? Why are they good? Snickers reasoning is based on him being serious and geript called him out on flip-flopping on his attitude already, so how does that work? Oats has done nothing than to suggest an IRC meeting (which worked quite well in Arkham Asylum although I claimed to Palmar, the third party - Joker quite fast >_>) I also don't see this interest in Liancourt. As for Eden I totally don't understand the reasoning.

LS, you got ripped off on the Weekly Mafia Fair, should've brought gold coin with you, not lead coin.

##vote LightningStrike

Geript's given me good vibes. He seems totes relaxed which makes me both happy and unnerved; I really expected him to at some point of conversation with Snickers to shout out "WHERE IS EVERYONE?".
Snickers seems genuine though. I shall reiterate: geript righteously called him out on changing his temper but I believe that's just the case of overconfidence. For now.

Eden was present for a long time from the very start and did not seem to be engaged in Snickers-Geript convo till later, which I find scummy. It is as if he feared getting involved at that point, because that'd put him in too much of a spotlight. He also wishes for people to PM him instead keeping his bone-box shut and doing it himself. Another person behaving suspiciously considering PMs is Koshi who wants people to post their "good PM logs" after "they're finished". Why? Why do you need this information? People converse privately to withdraw information from Mafia, why would they publish it? Why do you care?

Explain this please Kurumi. You contradict this initial read in our QT and in the thread.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 21:34 GMT
#301
On February 20 2015 06:08 Kurumi wrote:
Snickers is not Mafia.
Tell me Snickers, didn't you feel that geript asking you questions was like through a glass? With some distance? Like they were comfy questions and had little to no follow-up?

I also like all the reasoning you give for the bolded.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 21:36 GMT
#302
Like... You have called Snickers town in that post I quoted, called him mafia in our QT, and now call him town again without reasoning.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 21:40 GMT
#305
On February 20 2015 06:38 Kurumi wrote:
@Koshi
I told you he gave me good vibes, yes? I noted that his style was weird though, correct? I've gotten hold on new information. Geript seems to be soft-pushing Snickers. He asked you about your read on him. My initial concerns have proven to be true, my initial good will is eclipsed by such observation.

I don't understand what you are saying.

Explain to me why snickers is town.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 21:45 GMT
#307
On February 20 2015 06:41 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 06:39 Snickers wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:38 Kurumi wrote:
@Koshi
I told you he gave me good vibes, yes? I noted that his style was weird though, correct? I've gotten hold on new information. Geript seems to be soft-pushing Snickers. He asked you about your read on him. My initial concerns have proven to be true, my initial good will is eclipsed by such observation.


Was your concern that I was mafia or was your concern that geript was mafia?

My main concern was that you are both Mafia. I know now that it is close to impossible to be as such. Your behaviour has not struck me as weird in opposition to geript's behaviour. He was 'off'. He was right, but 'off'. It reminds me of Ace going on Kavdragon, Kavdragon flipping and flopping as Town and Mafia Ace using that to push him relentlessly for the entire day.
@Koshi I never said that Snickers is Mafia in qt. I only said that the convo between him and geript seems unnatural.

Ok fine. Now explain to me why Snickers is town. The guy has yet to call somebody mafia.

His first post was something I don't understand.
The next 5 posts were him defending himself against geript. Doing that pretty poorly as I pointed out. calling geript mafia but not really.
In his latest return he made a blob of words saying nothing.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 21:52 GMT
#310
On February 20 2015 06:47 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 06:45 Koshi wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:41 Kurumi wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:39 Snickers wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:38 Kurumi wrote:
@Koshi
I told you he gave me good vibes, yes? I noted that his style was weird though, correct? I've gotten hold on new information. Geript seems to be soft-pushing Snickers. He asked you about your read on him. My initial concerns have proven to be true, my initial good will is eclipsed by such observation.


Was your concern that I was mafia or was your concern that geript was mafia?

My main concern was that you are both Mafia. I know now that it is close to impossible to be as such. Your behaviour has not struck me as weird in opposition to geript's behaviour. He was 'off'. He was right, but 'off'. It reminds me of Ace going on Kavdragon, Kavdragon flipping and flopping as Town and Mafia Ace using that to push him relentlessly for the entire day.
@Koshi I never said that Snickers is Mafia in qt. I only said that the convo between him and geript seems unnatural.

Ok fine. Now explain to me why Snickers is town. The guy has yet to call somebody mafia.

His first post was something I don't understand.
The next 5 posts were him defending himself against geript. Doing that pretty poorly as I pointed out. calling geript mafia but not really.
In his latest return he made a blob of words saying nothing.

Tell me why geript isn't voting for Snickers if the reason for people to vote for Snickers is his interaction with geript. Tell me why geript is fishing interest in voting Snickers. It doesn't sound well, doesn't it? You have played with geript. He is a guy that will stick to a person and never let go if he thinks that is the right thing to do. He is interested in lynching Snickers but is not really leading the lynch. Get me?

Are you townreading Snickers because you are scumreading geript?
And are you scumreading geript because of meta? You scumread geript because he isn't going ham on somebody in the thread? Maybe he is chatting with people in PM or IRC and he doesn't feel the need to post a lot in here. I don't find it scummy geript is chill atm.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 22:06 GMT
#314
Can you answer my questions. You dodge them.

1) Why are you calling Snickers town. In our QT you say this:
Snickers is not that new, Koshi's point on his past achievements is quite solid as well.

Koshi I meant that all that geript was doing was asking single questions. Also not being geript-y enough. He likes to go balls to the wall ya dig me right?

This does not indicate that you are hard townreading Snickers.

2) Here geript was town and got misslynched D2. After reading his filter. Does this change anything about your scumread on him in this game?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474082-imperial-mafia
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 22:29 GMT
#317
LS what have you been up to? Want to go to IRC and chat?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 22:50 GMT
#320
That is actually clever. I don't think I have given mine away. If nobody did, scum might have shared the link.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 22:51 GMT
#321
Oh ofc I didn't gave mine away. It's one of the persons in that QT. Hilarious.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 22:53 GMT
#323
So can we conclude VE shared his QT with his scumbuddies? Or with a townbuddy
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 23:28 GMT
#335
It doesn't say you are an other user if you are logged in. Because I read the QT at work and at home. And ours wasn't infiltrated.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 19 2015 23:53 GMT
#346
You should have put pressure on Oats instead of this geript.
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Koshi
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February 19 2015 23:55 GMT
#348
Just figure this shit out.

VE did you access the QT on multiple devices? If you didn't. Then LS must have. If he didn't. Somebody is lying and it gets interesting but not really that interesting.
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Koshi
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February 19 2015 23:56 GMT
#351
On February 20 2015 08:54 Kurumi wrote:
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On February 20 2015 08:50 geript wrote:
On February 20 2015 08:45 Kurumi wrote:
On February 20 2015 08:44 geript wrote:
On February 20 2015 08:09 Eden1892 wrote:
But I think this is a pretty cool move, and it probably makes Kurumi town. Nothing about it can't be done as mafia, and he even acknowledged beforehand that he made the QTs prior to knowing his alignment, but he didn't have to followup on it if he were mafia. I didn't even get my QT invite until about 5am today (CST), so I know he actually started this work after getting his role, which again, pretty townie.

This is actually something that I strongly disagree with. No QTs being comprimised doesn't prove anything. What's more interested to me isn't whether a QT was comprimised or not, but rather the fact that he revealed this with just 1 "extra" unique view in 2 different QTs. Like, that's not in any way actually damning because of how often people play from multiple places (work, home, library, phone, etc.). It could be damning if just one qt had an 'extra' unique view (being the third mafia); but two having a similar extra is possible multiple ways. It actually leads credence to neither unique view being important unless he also created further QTs with myself, oats, ve and LS. Like he'd actually be able to single out who the extra unique view is coming from. Rather, he spilled his beans early. Which I find rather odd because as town, he has the potential to set this up in such a way to almost guarantee mafia. But he didn't. He just spouts it out. That actually tells me that he's not actually expecting to find mafia with it. Which IS rather telling.

If somebody would log in anywhere else it'd log but also tell me it was an unregistered user. Registered users are unique and that's it.

Except that I know that's not true. I literally have done this twice now and it's worked exactly opposite for me

"What we found out is that for every registered visitor that views the forum, a visitor is counted.

This gives us a new statistic that we should consider. The Registered Users statistic. This is (unique visitors) – (unregistered Visitors)."
We had 4 registered users. 0 unregistered. So 4 unique accounts.

Wait. 4 registered users? Ok. That is interesting then.
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Koshi
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February 19 2015 23:57 GMT
#353
Nha it is too late. gn all.


Keep calling each other mafia. And pray to jeebus Onegu comes and bleeds something.
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Koshi
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February 19 2015 23:57 GMT
#355
On February 20 2015 08:56 geript wrote:
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On February 20 2015 08:53 Koshi wrote:
You should have put pressure on Oats instead of this geript.

Why the fuck should I put pressure on Oats when I fucking know that the extra unique is quite literally from my phone? Like WTF Koshi?

Ok. I didn't know that. Jeez.
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February 19 2015 23:58 GMT
#356
On February 20 2015 08:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On February 20 2015 08:55 Koshi wrote:
Just figure this shit out.

VE did you access the QT on multiple devices? If you didn't. Then LS must have. If he didn't. Somebody is lying and it gets interesting but not really that interesting.

I did not, I've accessed the QT only on my home PC.

Ok. Then LS must have used 2 devices. Let's see if he did.
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February 20 2015 00:01 GMT
#358
I don't really see why scum would ever take the risk and shate QTs like that though. But I guess mistakes happen.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 00:05 GMT
#364
On February 20 2015 09:04 geript wrote:
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On February 20 2015 09:01 Koshi wrote:
I don't really see why scum would ever take the risk and shate QTs like that though. But I guess mistakes happen.

Except that this is essentially Kurumi's push that someone has compromised the QT's and is a baddie and needs to be lynched. That this proves mafia in some way. But he's literally doing nothing to prove that of any sort. He didn't even take any further steps to identify the "leaking" member when doing that was like super easy.

I agree on that.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 00:10 GMT
#367
Here is something to read. I am now really off to bed. I don't know if I got something out of this conversation. Maybe Eden can say something interesting for a change.

+ Show Spoiler +

[23:32] == LightningStrike [webchat@pool-108-19-48-26.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #LightningStrike
[23:32] <LightningStrike> What is it Koshi O_o
[23:33] <@Koshi> Nothing much
[23:33] <LightningStrike> I thought we had a different IRC channel for us to use lol
[23:33] <@Koshi> Since your list you haven't been doing much
[23:34] <LightningStrike> I been focusing on the other game I'm playing that hitting EOD in about 5.5 hours
[23:34] <LightningStrike> I mean EoN
[23:34] <@Koshi> Nothing much happening in this one though.
[23:34] <@Koshi> Want to play a game?
[23:34] <LightningStrike> Sure I guess
[23:34] <@Koshi> Coolio
[23:35] <@Koshi> You say a name, then I give my opinion on this person, then you give your opinion on this person. Then I say a name and we do the same
[23:35] <@Koshi> Just what pops in your mind.
[23:35] <LightningStrike> sicklucker
[23:36] <@Koshi> hmm damn. I think both rayn and eden make a good point that he was overly defensive when he said 'here we go again, again I get focussed day 1". Especially because nothing happened yet and only a vote was casted, no reason was yet given.
[23:37] <@Koshi> It shows that SL might have thought that town!rayn found something on him
[23:37] <@Koshi> Which is odd. Because as townie you don't assume that the person voting for you for no reason is town.
[23:38] <@Koshi> The case from rayn is not convincing me yet though. I agree that it is pretty lackluster from SL. But not definite mafia
[23:39] <LightningStrike> I find it hard to read sicklucker on Day 1 after I failed a meta read on him in Linux calling him Town instead of Mafia but you got a good point he been on the backfoot on defending himself
[23:39] <@Koshi> I think that is it.
[23:39] <LightningStrike> He could a power role for all we know
[23:40] <@Koshi> Maybe. But that shouldn't affect his play that much.
[23:40] <@Koshi> My turn: liancourt
[23:41] <LightningStrike> He seems meh in the thread at first I thought he had a ton of motivation this game but you got remember he's in South Korean right now so he's asleep atm.
[23:41] <LightningStrike> Korea
[23:42] <@Koshi> Is that it?
[23:43] <LightningStrike> Basically
[23:43] <@Koshi> It has nothing to do with what he already wrote :/
[23:44] <@Koshi> Haven't you already played a lot with him? I thought that you/LS/Lian came from the game newbies
[23:44] <LightningStrike> Going to recheck since I was to busy on doing something in the other game
[23:45] <LightningStrike> I had played with Lian in Carol, NYE Party, Linux, and I seen him play in Void.
[23:46] <@Koshi> Ok so what is he doing here? His early post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478192-office-mini-mafia?page=7#133
[23:46] <@Koshi> Can you say what you think?
[23:48] <LightningStrike> I agree with Lian in that post since he's right that Snickers is outright refusing to use one of the towns biggest weapon in the game that is communcation outside of the thread and the fact that Snickers said to ignore meta is kind of weird tbh with you
[23:50] <LightningStrike> What's your take on it?
[23:52] <@Koshi> I don't know liancourt. That's why I am asking you.
[23:54] <LightningStrike> I see him doing that more as Town than Mafia but than again I had never played with Lian when he was Mafia (shrugs) but it shows he actually thinking about the game but he didn't really follow up much in the thread though
[23:55] <@Koshi> ...
[23:55] <@Koshi> So you never saw him play mafia but you think he wouldn't do it as mafia?
[23:58] <LightningStrike> He tried to get people to talk outside of the thread which is townie in my opinion given this is a outside communcation game and this my first time playing in such a game so I still new on this type of game mode. He also doesn't seem to follow up yet on the thread on Snickers although I make the same mistake as Town on not following up but I remember earlier that he said he was going to bed.
[23:59] <LightningStrike> So currently he's sleeping and he should be here later tonight for me.
[00:00] <@Koshi> hmmk.
[00:01] <@Koshi> Got a clue on who the 3 mafia are?
[00:01] <@Koshi> A guess?
[00:04] <LightningStrike> Okay my guess maybe Snickers, Sicklucker, and VE since you said that VE had given acess to the other QT somehow Sicklucker I had Null and Snickers is my weakest Town read
[00:06] <LightningStrike> What's your guess on the Mafia Team?
[00:21] <@Koshi> I don't know.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 08:48 GMT
#547
hmm I am also making a list. Damn. After reading your list it might suck. I am still going to press enter.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 08:53 GMT
#550
Yeah, I am going to call sicklucker town from that list. Fuck me I am deleting my shitty list.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:06 GMT
#556
On February 20 2015 17:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
lmao Koshi that list is so bad are you kidding me? ARe you scum bro?

No it is a pretty good list that sums up a bunch of important things that happened this game. He is paying attention to the game.

I van very easily put myself in his place and see how he came to the conclusion on you. There is nothing mafia about it.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:08 GMT
#558
I deleted it. It was terrible.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:17 GMT
#560
On February 20 2015 11:31 Eden1892 wrote:
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On February 20 2015 11:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
That conversation is totally null for geript eden. How does it make him town?

Does geript argue like that as mafia? My impression is that when he gets angry and dug into his trenches like he has with Kurumi here, he's town, and that when he's mafia he tends to avoid tunneling much. I haven't seen his mafia play in a while (maybe ever?) but that's where that came from. (I also think mafia in general try to avoid this kind of argument.)

Koshi I could see being mafia. Why not Snickers though? I liked what Koshi had to say about Snickers and I don't think Snickers has done anything to make me think otherwise.


On February 20 2015 11:44 Eden1892 wrote:
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On February 20 2015 11:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
That conversation is totally null for geript eden. How does it make him town?

Does geript argue like that as mafia? My impression is that when he gets angry and dug into his trenches like he has with Kurumi here, he's town, and that when he's mafia he tends to avoid tunneling much. I haven't seen his mafia play in a while (maybe ever?) but that's where that came from. (I also think mafia in general try to avoid this kind of argument.)

Koshi I could see being mafia. Why not Snickers though? I liked what Koshi had to say about Snickers and I don't think Snickers has done anything to make me think otherwise.

I feel that the whole conversation was kurumi saying, "Its like this", and geript saying, "No its not". Thats hardly tunneling.


The reason I dont like Koshi's read on Snickers is that Koshi is doing the exact same thing and complaining about no content and asking people to produce content.

You must have missed the part where geript says "No way you do this as town" then - I thought it was pretty clear that geript thinks Kurumi is mafia for this and is zeroed in on it. Seems tunnely to me because he's ignoring the possibility that you were the source of the leak. (Were you?)

Second part is pretty true, but it doesn't change anything about Snickers himself. I think Koshi's done more than Snickers pretty easily. Koshi dropped some info about LS, he's been questioning Kurumi about his plan for the game, and he brought up Snickers himself. Snickers hasn't done anything beyond calling random things bullshit without offering any analysis or potential suspects or anything.



On February 20 2015 13:58 Eden1892 wrote:
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On February 20 2015 13:45 LightningStrike wrote:
I didn't even post the pms though yet I just waiting for mod to answer my question on it.

don't talk about pm'ing the mods about asking for a rule clarification, dummy

god have mercy on this poor guy (unless he's mafia)

I feel like Town!Eden would have stronger reads than this. I don't think that Town!Eden would start with saying "I could see Koshi being mafia" and then goes for all the green stuff about me. While he also pushes snickers based on everything I said.

I don't see Town!Eden do that.


Same thing with the LS read. I think this shows scum!Eden not knowing when he should have strong reads. This is a PM game ffs. Why is he having such weak reads? He just said LS was town after he read that entire conversation I had with LS. Now he doubts that read again? Is this town!Eden? I don't think so.

##vote: Eden


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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:21 GMT
#564
I am not calling VE town though. Like, I have no problem with him atm, but I am not calling him town based on anything.

He is on the live and let live list.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:22 GMT
#567
On February 20 2015 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also there another really bad read in sickluckers post.
Who knows why?

I don't like the geript read. He uses the towncircle to proof geript is town but he hates the towncircle and got somebody as scum who is on it.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:25 GMT
#571
On February 20 2015 18:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
The part that he calls me town for attacking townies is pretty bad.

O rly. Which townies does sickluster say you are attacking?
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:30 GMT
#580
Hmm I even somewhat misread that geript read. It had to do with LS and a towncircle
Ok. Good stuff by Oats and rayn.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:32 GMT
#582
I have no interest in defending ls btw, I already did that one game and he turned out to be scum.

So I am going to say this once: atm I think sl is townish and I would prefer to go after somebody else.

Which I will do. But I will not be vocally opposing the pressure on ls. Probably ever.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:33 GMT
#584
Fuck. change ls into sl twice.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:34 GMT
#586
On February 20 2015 18:33 Eden1892 wrote:
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On February 20 2015 18:32 Koshi wrote:
I have no interest in defending ls btw, I already did that one game and he turned out to be scum.

So I am going to say this once: atm I think sl is townish and I would prefer to go after somebody else.

Which I will do. But I will not be vocally opposing the pressure on ls. Probably ever.

ugh who else then

(I am not a valid answer)

Yes. I think you are very scummy tbh.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:37 GMT
#588
On February 20 2015 18:26 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 18:17 Koshi wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
That conversation is totally null for geript eden. How does it make him town?

Does geript argue like that as mafia? My impression is that when he gets angry and dug into his trenches like he has with Kurumi here, he's town, and that when he's mafia he tends to avoid tunneling much. I haven't seen his mafia play in a while (maybe ever?) but that's where that came from. (I also think mafia in general try to avoid this kind of argument.)

Koshi I could see being mafia. Why not Snickers though? I liked what Koshi had to say about Snickers and I don't think Snickers has done anything to make me think otherwise.


On February 20 2015 11:44 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
That conversation is totally null for geript eden. How does it make him town?

Does geript argue like that as mafia? My impression is that when he gets angry and dug into his trenches like he has with Kurumi here, he's town, and that when he's mafia he tends to avoid tunneling much. I haven't seen his mafia play in a while (maybe ever?) but that's where that came from. (I also think mafia in general try to avoid this kind of argument.)

Koshi I could see being mafia. Why not Snickers though? I liked what Koshi had to say about Snickers and I don't think Snickers has done anything to make me think otherwise.

I feel that the whole conversation was kurumi saying, "Its like this", and geript saying, "No its not". Thats hardly tunneling.


The reason I dont like Koshi's read on Snickers is that Koshi is doing the exact same thing and complaining about no content and asking people to produce content.

You must have missed the part where geript says "No way you do this as town" then - I thought it was pretty clear that geript thinks Kurumi is mafia for this and is zeroed in on it. Seems tunnely to me because he's ignoring the possibility that you were the source of the leak. (Were you?)

Second part is pretty true, but it doesn't change anything about Snickers himself. I think Koshi's done more than Snickers pretty easily. Koshi dropped some info about LS, he's been questioning Kurumi about his plan for the game, and he brought up Snickers himself. Snickers hasn't done anything beyond calling random things bullshit without offering any analysis or potential suspects or anything.



On February 20 2015 13:58 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 20 2015 13:45 LightningStrike wrote:
I didn't even post the pms though yet I just waiting for mod to answer my question on it.

don't talk about pm'ing the mods about asking for a rule clarification, dummy

god have mercy on this poor guy (unless he's mafia)

I feel like Town!Eden would have stronger reads than this. I don't think that Town!Eden would start with saying "I could see Koshi being mafia" and then goes for all the green stuff about me. While he also pushes snickers based on everything I said.

I don't see Town!Eden do that.


Same thing with the LS read. I think this shows scum!Eden not knowing when he should have strong reads. This is a PM game ffs. Why is he having such weak reads? He just said LS was town after he read that entire conversation I had with LS. Now he doubts that read again? Is this town!Eden? I don't think so.

##vote: Eden



not really seeing any contradictions tbh

the first post was inconclusive about you b/c you hadn't done a lot (which is typically your scum behavior), but you brought up the snickers thing which I thought was good. snickers proceeded to not really try or do anything for several hours and your read made a lot more sense in light of that, so I came around to snickers mafia and you town. recently snickers has tried more so I've felt better about him, but your observation was still pretty good, so I think you're probably town, and I have better lynches like sicklucker and liancourt, so I'm not lynching you today

and I'm not doubting my LS read, you're getting me wrong. I was joking about only modkilling someone who broke rules if they're mafia. could have been LS or SL or geript or anybody and I'd have said the same

why don't you want to lynch sicklucker? if he's paying attention but clearly not active in the thread or side chats then he's probably mafia. sicklucker is much more active than this as town

1) It is not about contradictions. It is about the strenght of a read. I don't like how you start with calling me possible scum, and then type 5 different reasons why I am probably town. Especially after last game we played in which I was scum and you couldn't find 1 reason why I was town the entire game.

2) Again. It is about the strenght of your LS read. I would expect town!Eden to jokingly beg the mods to not modkill LS because he is obvious town. But you added the possibility that LS is scum instead. Because I feel like you should have LS as strong town.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:39 GMT
#589
On February 20 2015 18:34 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 18:34 Koshi wrote:
On February 20 2015 18:33 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 20 2015 18:32 Koshi wrote:
I have no interest in defending ls btw, I already did that one game and he turned out to be scum.

So I am going to say this once: atm I think sl is townish and I would prefer to go after somebody else.

Which I will do. But I will not be vocally opposing the pressure on ls. Probably ever.

ugh who else then

(I am not a valid answer)

Yes. I think you are very scummy tbh.

bruh i mean who else will you lynch with me

i'm not lynching me with you

I am more interested why you think Snickers is mafia. Because so far I just read you are scumreading Snickers through reasoning I gave. Which again is not what I expect from Town!Eden.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:42 GMT
#590
It is also about the fact you are trying to manipulate Oats in thinking Snickers is more mafia than I am while keeping the option open I am mafia to Oats.

This pushes your mafia agenda because
1) When I read your post it looks like you pick my side.
2) Oats is not fully convinced I am town.
3) Snickers looks actually pretty town to me since I recapped stuff this morning so you got that misslynch going.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:43 GMT
#592
↑ Oh, I also think Oats is town since that mindmeld with rayn so that is why 2) is scummy. You keep townies fighting with each other.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 09:49 GMT
#594
On February 20 2015 18:44 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 18:37 Koshi wrote:
On February 20 2015 18:26 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 20 2015 18:17 Koshi wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
That conversation is totally null for geript eden. How does it make him town?

Does geript argue like that as mafia? My impression is that when he gets angry and dug into his trenches like he has with Kurumi here, he's town, and that when he's mafia he tends to avoid tunneling much. I haven't seen his mafia play in a while (maybe ever?) but that's where that came from. (I also think mafia in general try to avoid this kind of argument.)

Koshi I could see being mafia. Why not Snickers though? I liked what Koshi had to say about Snickers and I don't think Snickers has done anything to make me think otherwise.


On February 20 2015 11:44 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
That conversation is totally null for geript eden. How does it make him town?

Does geript argue like that as mafia? My impression is that when he gets angry and dug into his trenches like he has with Kurumi here, he's town, and that when he's mafia he tends to avoid tunneling much. I haven't seen his mafia play in a while (maybe ever?) but that's where that came from. (I also think mafia in general try to avoid this kind of argument.)

Koshi I could see being mafia. Why not Snickers though? I liked what Koshi had to say about Snickers and I don't think Snickers has done anything to make me think otherwise.

I feel that the whole conversation was kurumi saying, "Its like this", and geript saying, "No its not". Thats hardly tunneling.


The reason I dont like Koshi's read on Snickers is that Koshi is doing the exact same thing and complaining about no content and asking people to produce content.

You must have missed the part where geript says "No way you do this as town" then - I thought it was pretty clear that geript thinks Kurumi is mafia for this and is zeroed in on it. Seems tunnely to me because he's ignoring the possibility that you were the source of the leak. (Were you?)

Second part is pretty true, but it doesn't change anything about Snickers himself. I think Koshi's done more than Snickers pretty easily. Koshi dropped some info about LS, he's been questioning Kurumi about his plan for the game, and he brought up Snickers himself. Snickers hasn't done anything beyond calling random things bullshit without offering any analysis or potential suspects or anything.



On February 20 2015 13:58 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 20 2015 13:45 LightningStrike wrote:
I didn't even post the pms though yet I just waiting for mod to answer my question on it.

don't talk about pm'ing the mods about asking for a rule clarification, dummy

god have mercy on this poor guy (unless he's mafia)

I feel like Town!Eden would have stronger reads than this. I don't think that Town!Eden would start with saying "I could see Koshi being mafia" and then goes for all the green stuff about me. While he also pushes snickers based on everything I said.

I don't see Town!Eden do that.


Same thing with the LS read. I think this shows scum!Eden not knowing when he should have strong reads. This is a PM game ffs. Why is he having such weak reads? He just said LS was town after he read that entire conversation I had with LS. Now he doubts that read again? Is this town!Eden? I don't think so.

##vote: Eden



not really seeing any contradictions tbh

the first post was inconclusive about you b/c you hadn't done a lot (which is typically your scum behavior), but you brought up the snickers thing which I thought was good. snickers proceeded to not really try or do anything for several hours and your read made a lot more sense in light of that, so I came around to snickers mafia and you town. recently snickers has tried more so I've felt better about him, but your observation was still pretty good, so I think you're probably town, and I have better lynches like sicklucker and liancourt, so I'm not lynching you today

and I'm not doubting my LS read, you're getting me wrong. I was joking about only modkilling someone who broke rules if they're mafia. could have been LS or SL or geript or anybody and I'd have said the same

why don't you want to lynch sicklucker? if he's paying attention but clearly not active in the thread or side chats then he's probably mafia. sicklucker is much more active than this as town

1) It is not about contradictions. It is about the strenght of a read. I don't like how you start with calling me possible scum, and then type 5 different reasons why I am probably town. Especially after last game we played in which I was scum and you couldn't find 1 reason why I was town the entire game.

2) Again. It is about the strenght of your LS read. I would expect town!Eden to jokingly beg the mods to not modkill LS because he is obvious town. But you added the possibility that LS is scum instead. Because I feel like you should have LS as strong town.

ok, i get it's about strength of a read. i still don't see where the issue is. i was uncertain on you in the post you highlighted where i said you were maybe mafia, b/c you hadn't done a lot, but you had done one thing i thought was good (snickers bit). the snickers thing felt more validated over time so i got okay with you being town. your comparison to horn of africa isn't valid because the scenarios are different; you might not agree with this assessment, but i felt you literally did nothing townie in HoA, so of course i found no reason to townread you. you were afk most of the time and didn't do anything to solve the game when you were around. pretty easy read. when i made that post, you were still sorta in afk/not-doing-much land, but you posted the snickers thing, which was townie. so i was uncertain, and then as the game progressed, the snickers thing turned out to be pretty valuable AND you did more (digging into kurumi, chatting with ls and the town circle on the side), so i thought you were town

your second point is pretty plainly overreaching to me. i really don't know how to reply to it because i feel like it's self-evident that i wasn't actually doubting my read on ls. all i can do is insist i wasn't

I might be overreaching on that. But it is just another thing that just didn't go like I would expect. It can happen a couple times, but it seems like this game you never bleed town Eden.

Anyway, your defense is noted down. I am expecting you to do things though. If you believe that rayn/geript/Koshi and possible VE are a strong towncircle that works on skype/TS/irc you should not be too afraid to be shot. So please, show me something spectacular.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 10:18 GMT
#600
I was like 5 minutes on TS with them btw. Had to play yearbeast doto.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 11:05 GMT
#601
This is what Eden PM me before he went to bed:

Original Message From Eden1892:
here's where i am on kurumi, feel free to leave your thoughts

i have him down basically as a townie who got a good idea, got too excited to spring the idea, botched the execution and scrambled to find any result from it to salvage it. i think he fucked up by springing his qt's thing too soon and made the qt's not able to show a meaningful result (by springing it after only 1 extra view). once that happened, i think he might have gotten too entrenched in defending his idea to make an accurate read, and he scumread geript because it was the only thing that could keep his picture of how his idea was supposed to work intact - not because he's mafia trying to look consistent, but just that he's town that got confirmation biased with his idea

[sniped]


spectacular enough?

Any ideas?
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February 20 2015 11:42 GMT
#603
Sure, but even if it is correct. It has no impact on this game at all in it's current state. It isn't spectacular at all. It's just a possible true story.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 12:47 GMT
#606
http://webchat.freenode.net/

Join the channel "scumteam"
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February 20 2015 12:54 GMT
#607
LighteningStrike

On how many devices did you connect to your QT? Are you logged in with an username?
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 13:18 GMT
#608
Snickers can you confirm?
On February 20 2015 19:06 Eden1892 wrote:
- an incident i saw in irc (no logs, gg, but snickers will confirm) where snickers was pushing him to give suspects or show anything indicating he was solving the game. liancourt just deflected pretty much everything and called snickers scum for omgusing

i'm not as confident here, because i've literally seen the second point happen to me when we were town together, but i think the two points in conjunction are good enough to lynch on.

Also when did this happen? Before or after Eden was explaining how scummy Snickers was to Oats using my reasoning?
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February 20 2015 13:59 GMT
#612
When did this happen?
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February 20 2015 14:17 GMT
#623
I have no clue.
I do think it is pretty terrible from sl to read LS town from that. But I think somebody outside sl did it as well. I forgot who.
But sl also read me town for no reason at all in my previous game when I was scum.

I am in the Eden is 100% mafia camp.
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February 20 2015 14:18 GMT
#624
We can just paste the log:
+ Show Spoiler +
[13:46] == Koshi [c24e9265@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.78.146.101] has joined #Scumteam
[13:46] == mode/#Scumteam [+ns] by herbert.freenode.net
[13:51] == Sicklucker [18ccc61c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.204.198.28] has joined #Scumteam
[13:51] <@Koshi> Oh hi
[13:51] <@Koshi> Interesting to see you
[13:51] <Sicklucker> hi
[13:51] <Sicklucker> how many of these channels are we going to use
[13:52] <@Koshi> Hmm? I just make a new one each time
[13:53] <@Koshi> Eden, VE, LS
[13:53] <@Koshi> Could they be mafia?
[13:54] <Sicklucker> I think all could be possible I dont think ls is
[13:54] <Sicklucker> that weird miller claim interaction so I especially dont see him being with eden
[13:55] <Sicklucker> like how he spoiled edens potential miller bait
[13:57] <@Koshi> Yeah I don't think LS is mafia either. But their
[13:57] <@Koshi> QT was infiltrated and nobody is really talking about that
[13:57] <@Koshi> It don't care if Kurumi botched it a bit. There still was somebody in that QT.
[13:58] <@Koshi> So VE is mafia?
[13:58] <@Koshi> Both you and snickers were going ham on VE there.
[13:58] <Sicklucker> I thought geript claimed it was him?
[13:59] <@Koshi> There were 2 QTs infiltrated
[13:59] <@Koshi> The one with geript was geript
[13:59] <Sicklucker> Oh
[13:59] <@Koshi> the one with LS and VE is not solved yet
[13:59] <Sicklucker> well its weird that my qt was not infiltrated
[13:59] <Sicklucker> since lian acualy posted the link but no one noticed
[13:59] <@Koshi> The link was wrong.
[13:59] <@Koshi> I tried it
[13:59] <@Koshi> sec let me recheck
[13:59] <Sicklucker> o
[14:00] <Sicklucker> it was the right link but here ill link you
[14:00] <@Koshi> lian --> /51/H/mTeBUk7MXkgK
[14:00] <Sicklucker> because it says this otherwise. Forbidden You don't have permission to access /51/H/mTeBUk7MXkgK on this server.
[14:00] <@Koshi> you --> 51/H/mTeBUk7MXkgrK
[14:01] <@Koshi> You see? lian removed an "r" in the end
[14:01] <Sicklucker> ah well that guy freaked out and made another one
[14:01] <@Koshi> But it wasn't infiltrated
[14:01] <@Koshi> ANYWAY
[14:01] <@Koshi> What about Eden?
[14:02] <@Koshi> Eden and VE
[14:02] <@Koshi> Talk me about those
[14:02] <Sicklucker> not important but ya I think ve is mafia. I wouldnt bet my lifesavings on it but he was pretty quick to not engage with us
[14:02] <@Koshi> I am so unsettled about the fact both you and snickers were going ham on VE and Eden didn't say shit
[14:02] == Oatsmaster [79065e29@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.6.94.41] has joined #Scumteam
[14:02] <@Koshi> io Oats
[14:02] <@Koshi> Can you read the past?
[14:03] <Sicklucker> 'oatie
[14:03] <Sicklucker> why was eden even around at that time?
[14:03] <Sicklucker> I didnt notice him
[14:03] <@Koshi> sec
[14:04] <@Koshi> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478192-office-mini-mafia?page=25#487
[14:04] <@Koshi> This is a post from Eden right before you and Snickers went ham on VE
[14:04] <@Koshi> Eden just disappeared
[14:05] <Sicklucker> Thats true and I was in that irc with a few others
[14:05] <Sicklucker> but it died out mostly before that happened
[14:05] <@Koshi> And then when he came back with this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478192-office-mini-mafia?page=27#530
[14:05] <@Koshi> HE IGNORES EVERYTHING
[14:06] <@Koshi> He just quotes VE and is gone.
[14:06] <@Koshi> It is soooooooo unsetlling
[14:06] <Sicklucker> your right he does
[14:06] <@Koshi> And VE is doing fuck all tbh. Which is not a mafia tell for him.
[14:06] <@Koshi> But I mean...
[14:07] <@Koshi> He really is doing fuck all
[14:07] <Sicklucker> edens probably the easiest mafia read in this game
[14:07] <Sicklucker> i was mafia partners with him recently and when hes town its so obviously like that 60 page filter game
[14:07] <@Koshi> Exactly
[14:08] <@Koshi> In this game he is talking to Oats how I might be mafia and then gives Oats 5 reasons why I am not mafia.
[14:08] <@Koshi> ...
[14:08] <Sicklucker> like if he is mafia I think he slip later when we were together and I forgot to vote and got mod killed after getting the lynch off me he just concideded or something
[14:09] <Sicklucker> So id rather vote ve. eden will slip later if hes mafia imo or be really obvious
[14:09] <Sicklucker> while ve might not
[14:10] <@Koshi> Dnu.
[14:10] <@Koshi> VE will probably be on voice tonight. Or somewhere with rayn and geript
[14:10] <@Koshi> We will see then
[14:11] <@Koshi> If both rayn and geript want to keep VE around he is not going to die
[14:11] <@Koshi> tbh VE isn't saying dumb shit btw
[14:11] <@Koshi> I don't got him as mafia.
[14:11] <@Koshi> null
[14:11] <@Koshi> But PoE
[14:11] <@Koshi> Makes him mafia a bit
[14:11] <Sicklucker> fair enough then I could see myself voting eden
[14:12] <Sicklucker> makes him very likely to be mafia in this game
[14:12] <@Koshi> Look at this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478192-office-mini-mafia?page=30#596
[14:12] <@Koshi> This is where Eden says to vote either sicklucker or liancourt
[14:13] <Sicklucker> eden keeps talking about how im always active as town
[14:14] <Sicklucker> My activity has droped off alot as both alignments. But this game in relative to the thread ive been fairly active
[14:14] <@Koshi> Yeah, activity this game is low anyway. He got a fucking 3 page filter while last game he had a 15 page filter around this time
[14:14] <@Koshi> But look at that post. Nowhere a sign of Snickers
[14:15] <@Koshi> He uses phrases like "if you guys don't want to lynch sicklucker"
[14:15] <@Koshi> DAFUQ???
[14:15] <@Koshi> He is distancing himself so hard
[14:15] <Sicklucker> Ya I dont really buy his reasons for voting me unlike someone like rayn
[14:15] <@Koshi> from the thread
[14:17] <Sicklucker> speaking of people scum reading me sup oats
[14:17] <Sicklucker> I think you were kind of confused heres why I gave you a slight town read
[14:17] <Sicklucker> Oatsmaster - Slight town - A strange oats but a good oats. Hes attacking the cool kids club which I like because I doubt he has the balls for that as scum. Has original ideas
[14:17] <Sicklucker> I think mafia is too scared to ever attack an alliance of koshi rayn/ geript
[14:17] <Sicklucker> that thread presence
[14:18] <Sicklucker> i dont agree with it BUT YOUR DOING IT. Mafia would not have the balls for that imo
[14:19] <@Koshi> Hmm dnu
[14:19] <Oatsmaster> er
[14:19] <Sicklucker>
On February 20 2015 18:23 Oatsmaster wrote: The part that he calls me town for attacking townies is pretty bad.

[14:19] <Oatsmaster> you still called me town for attacking some people you called town
[14:19] <Oatsmaster> like
[14:19] <Oatsmaster> thats bad
[14:19] <Sicklucker> so what if I call you town for attacking townies?
[14:19] <Sicklucker> I think that makes you town
[14:20] <@Koshi> I am not sure why everybody thinks we are so confirmed to each other though. It is kinda funny. I wonder if it is mafia being scared or one of them is mafia and their partners are pushing the idea in the thread that we are all mafia...
[14:20] <Sicklucker> I think mafia attacking those 3 players is suicide
[14:20] <Oatsmaster> because thats what scum do
[14:20] <Oatsmaster> they attack town
[14:20] <@Koshi> Like, if rayn is mafia and then his partners say "rayn/koshi/geript" are all town. So that rayn gets the free pass.
[14:20] <@Koshi> I doubt that though
[14:20] <Sicklucker> Not those town. You nightkill those town. You attack the weak towns like me
[14:21] <@Koshi> Sicklucker. Explain to me why geript/rayn/Koshi are so town?
[14:22] <Oatsmaster> i dont see how rayn knows that you are town though koshi
[14:22] <@Koshi> It's meta most likely.
[14:22] <@Koshi> And some wishful thinking
[14:23] <@Koshi> So as long as I don't do incredible retarded stuff he wont change the read
[14:23] <Sicklucker> Like I think your town because of your last mafia game. Your also like a huge tthread presence and you dont want to kill me
[14:23] <@Koshi> lol
[14:23] <@Koshi> Yeah but I mean the entity rayn/Koshi/geript
[14:23] <@Koshi> The thread keeps saying we are all town
[14:23] <@Koshi> why?
[14:23] <Sicklucker> geript im just sheeping on you and rayn I dont think hes town asides from that I can never read th eguy
[14:24] <Sicklucker> oh
[14:24] <Sicklucker> there sheep
[14:24] <Sicklucker> like usual
[14:24] <Sicklucker> and mafia that can only sheeo
[14:24] <Oatsmaster> they are saying that because rayn says you guys are town
[14:25] <@Koshi> Maybe.
[14:25] <@Koshi> Anyway
[14:25] <@Koshi> Again.
[14:25] <@Koshi> We need some good stuff on VE I think
[14:26] <Oatsmaster> what
[14:26] <@Koshi> Snickers and sicklucker are probably not mafia together for attacking VE like that
[14:26] <Oatsmaster> im pretty sure VE doesnt do the "Im town guys you better not think im scum or else" shit as town
[14:26] <@Koshi> Yeah I think he does
[14:26] <@Koshi> hmm
[14:28] <@Koshi> Maybe not
[14:28] <Oatsmaster> lol
[14:29] <Sicklucker> who wa sall in that second qt that an outside person entered
[14:29] <Sicklucker> I forgot only focused on the first 1
[14:30] <@Koshi> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478192-office-mini-mafia?page=16#319
[14:30] <Sicklucker> ls,oats?
[14:30] <@Koshi> LS/VE + geript/oats
[14:30] <Sicklucker> oh ok
[14:31] <Oatsmaster> i havent opened mine
[14:31] <Sicklucker> I feel like operation honeypot was a succes
[14:31] <Oatsmaster> since that post
[14:31] <Oatsmaster> if it was a success, who is scum from it?>
[14:31] <Sicklucker> ve!
[14:32] <Sicklucker> ill be on and off for awile ill keep this open
[14:32] <@Koshi> Oats, you never went into your QT?
[14:33] <@Koshi> ahh since that post
[14:33] <@Koshi> ok nvm
[14:33] <Sicklucker> marsbar never came into ares
[14:33] <Oatsmaster> what
[14:33] <Sicklucker> or at least never typed
[14:33] <@Koshi> Why do you always type "ares" when it should be "ours" lol
[14:33] <@Koshi> 3rd time I see you do it
[14:33] <Oatsmaster> it was clear that it was possible to get unique visitors from opening it up in different browsers
[14:34] <@Koshi> No it isn't
[14:34] <Oatsmaster> or different networks
[14:34] <@Koshi> No it isn't
[14:34] <Oatsmaster> it is
[14:34] <@Koshi> Except when you are not logged in
[14:34] <Oatsmaster> create a qt
[14:34] <@Koshi> Sure. If you are not logged in
[14:34] <Oatsmaster> try it
[14:34] <Oatsmaster> yeah
[14:34] <@Koshi> IF YOU ARE NOT LOGGED IN OATS
[14:34] <Oatsmaster> whats your point?
[14:34] <@Koshi> Dnu
[14:34] <Oatsmaster> my point is that the unique visitors doesnt tell us shit
[14:34] <@Koshi> It probably doesn't
[14:35] <@Koshi> Cuz geript entered his twice
[14:35] <@Koshi> So nothing htere
[14:35] <@Koshi> But LS and VE might have not
[14:35] <@Koshi> dnu
[14:35] <@Koshi> It is probably nothing
[14:35] <@Koshi> Still I want to persue it
[14:35] <Oatsmaster> its nothing
[14:35] <Oatsmaster> at all
[14:35] <Oatsmaster> dont bother
[14:36] <@Koshi> Who do you think is scum?
[14:36] <@Koshi> Really sicklucker?
[14:36] <@Koshi> Meh
[14:36] <Oatsmaster> really snickers?
[14:36] <Oatsmaster> meh
[14:36] <@Koshi> I don't think snickers
[14:36] <@Koshi> I just said snickers is town
[14:36] <@Koshi> ...
[14:37] <@Koshi> Eden/VE/liancourt/Onegu
[14:38] <Oatsmaster> onegu hasnt posted 1 bit
[14:38] <Oatsmaster> the eden stuff is intriguing
[14:38] <Oatsmaster> i thought he was pretty town
[14:38] <Oatsmaster> so how is sl town koshi?
[14:38] <@Koshi> I don't know
[14:39] <@Koshi> He can play good as mafia so I don't know
[14:39] <@Koshi> Like.. Somewhere I would think he would call LS and Lian mafia in a listpost?
[14:39] <@Koshi> If eden is town he would call eden town?
[14:40] <@Koshi> But now he says VE mafia. geript/eden null and LS and lian town
[14:40] <@Koshi> That's ballsy and possibly correct
[14:40] <@Koshi> And you can't be mad at him for calling you town for attacking townies.
[14:40] <@Koshi> It is a possible read
[14:41] <@Koshi> But like I said
[14:41] <@Koshi> I don't know why he would be town
[14:41] <@Koshi> But I got reasons why Eden is mafia
[14:41] <@Koshi> And I don't like VE enough to think he is town
[14:41] <Oatsmaster> its a bad as fuck read
[14:41] <Oatsmaster> lo
[14:41] <Oatsmaster> and ve makes people angry
[14:42] <Oatsmaster> considering 1. Its not even accurate
[14:42] <Oatsmaster> 2. Hes calling me town for doing scummy things
[14:42] <Sicklucker> Its townie imo
[14:43] <Oatsmaster> Dude i do this shit in every scum game I play
[14:43] <@Koshi> Well if you think it is townie you would do it as mafia
[14:43] <Sicklucker> few mafia has the balls to go against the entire thread on the three strongest players
[14:43] <@Koshi> ahh that is townie.
[14:43] <Oatsmaster> i attack the towniest looking guy for the reasoning you are giving
[14:43] <Sicklucker> fair enough when I play mafia I immatate what I would think if i were town
[14:44] <Oatsmaster> I just do it cause of people like you
[14:44] <Oatsmaster> And its not even accurate, Nobody strongly thought koshi was town and rayn was also sitting on the fence
[14:44] <Sicklucker> like its a very thin town read
[14:44] <Sicklucker> you could tottaly be mafia
[14:45] <Oatsmaster> so 1, your read was inaccurate from the sense that I wasnt attacking any strong town.
[14:45] <Oatsmaster> 2. Your read is inaccurate because that doesnt make anyone townie
[14:45] <Sicklucker> you werent?
[14:45] <Sicklucker> explain 1
[14:45] <Oatsmaster> THEY WERE NOT HIGHLY REGARDED AT THAT POINT OF TIME
[14:46] <Sicklucker> im pretty sure they were
[14:46] <Sicklucker> But I read pages 14 on when I woke up
[14:46] <Sicklucker> so it all seemed like the same time to me
[14:49] <Oatsmaster> nope
[14:57] <@Koshi> Well.. Chances are high you are going to get lynched sl.
[14:57] <@Koshi> Especially when you are town.
[14:58] <@Koshi> And Onegu is town
[14:58] <@Koshi> It's basically 8 vs 3 then
[14:59] <Oatsmaster> how do you know onegu is town?
[15:00] <@Koshi> I said
[15:00] <@Koshi> Especially if sl and Onegu are town
[15:00] <@Koshi> As in
[15:00] <@Koshi> HYPOTHETICAL
[15:01] <@Koshi> It would be so awesome if we were the scumteam though
[15:01] <@Koshi> Chatting in the chatroom #scumteam
[15:05] <Oatsmaster> you didnt say if
[15:05] <Oatsmaster> lol
[15:08] <@Koshi> I said when
[15:08] <@Koshi> Especially when you are town And Onegu is town
[15:08] <@Koshi> w.e
[15:09] <@Koshi> I actually made that mistake on purpose when I was scum
[15:09] <@Koshi> But that was more obvious than this
[15:09] <@Koshi> Anyway.
[15:09] <@Koshi> When and if are the same to me
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 14:33 GMT
#631
I got our log.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 14:36 GMT
#635
haha I think you are.
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February 20 2015 14:51 GMT
#639
I guess we should see if he actually talks reads. Because in our QT he only talked semantics about posting logs or not.

And now the thing with the infiltrated QTs.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 15:59 GMT
#653
Kurumi. At some point we are going to need you doing scumhunting and other stuff that makes you town. Because you must understand that this is all looking trivial and something scum can do.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 17:15 GMT
#664
sl stop using "are" instead of "our"
4th time.
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February 20 2015 18:05 GMT
#672
Eden:

1) Completely misreads and thinks I have Snickers as town. More likely mafia that misreads like this because not interested.

2) Tells Oats he is right thinking Koshi could be scum. Proceeds to give 5 reasons why he thinks Koshi is town.

3) Completely ignored the discussion between snickers/sl against VE. While he was around right before it started and came back after it cooled down and ignored it some more.

4) Has done 0 scumhunting. This is a guy that had 50 page filter after DAY 2 in his previous game!!!

5) Wants to stay out of the spotlight. Biggest example is that he says stuff like "if you guys don't decide to lynch sicklucker, please lynch liancourt" As if he knows he won't be able or willing to push his reads. This is Eden guys.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 18:12 GMT
#673
geript claims to have 2 hour logs with Eden on skype.

Please show them to the thread.
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Koshi
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Belgium38799 Posts
February 20 2015 18:15 GMT
#675
[19:06] <Koshi> How the fuck is Eden a townread?
[19:06] <Koshi> Tell me in the thread
[19:07] <geripti> b/c i've had like 3-4 convos with him out othread
[19:07] <Koshi> Then post them in the thread
[19:07] <geripti> like an hour or two convo on skype last night
[19:07] <geripti> His reads really align w/ mine
[19:07] <Koshi> NO THEY FUCKING DONT
[19:07] <Koshi> FUCK THAT
[19:07] <Koshi> THEY DONT
[19:07] <Koshi> Did you even read his last blob of reads?
[19:08] <Koshi> Did you?
[19:08] <Koshi> There is nothing on Kurumi
[19:08] <geripti> he's less scum on kurumi but he wanted to see his posts when he came back
[19:09] <Koshi> NO GERIPT
[19:09] <Koshi> NO
[19:09] <Koshi> NO
[19:09] <Koshi> NO
[19:09] <Koshi> His last PM before going to bed was that he is 100% town on Kurumi
[19:10] <Koshi> I fucking posted in the thread
[19:11] <Koshi> Eden found it spactacular that he was able to make an entire story about Kurumi being town
[19:11] <Koshi> geript confirmed not even reading thethread
[19:11] <Koshi> Fuck that
[19:11] <Koshi> It was even in the log with Oats/sicklucker and me
[19:13] <Koshi> You better post that 2 hour log into the thread or you are mafia with Eden
[19:14] <Koshi> You fucking claim to have 2 hour logs in which Eden has Kurumi as possible scum.
[19:14] <Koshi> You don't talk about anything else anyway
[19:14] <Koshi> And then after that Eden posts a blob of reads. Nothing on Kurumi. Even calls him town.
[19:14] <Koshi> And you don't think it is strange??????
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 18:18 GMT
#678
1) Geript can't talk about anything else than Kurumi scum the last 15 hours.
2) Geript claims to have had multiple hour conversations with Eden in which Eden has Kurumi as possible scum.
3) Eden called Kurumi 100% town in a PM to me which I posted after talking to geript for multiple hours.
4) Geript doesn't notice.

HOW IS IT POSSIBLE?
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 18:22 GMT
#679
Also. Eden would have been online for hours in Horn of Africa game.
this game isn't.


Somebody show me a game in which Eden is mafia. I want to see when he comes online.
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February 20 2015 18:24 GMT
#680
On February 20 2015 19:06 Eden1892 wrote:
ugh, bad timing, i'm going to bed and working a double tomorrow. idk how spectacular i can be

i still think you should lynch sicklucker. i'm not sure what it is about his list post that changed your mind, because to me it proved he's been following things but not that he's trying to solve the game (as evidenced by his lack of meaningful posts in the thread or oot communication), which i'd expect from mafia sicklucker. town sicklucker is all over the thread, digging into all kinds of leads, trying to turn up whatever he can. the leads don't even have to make sense, they just have to exist. they don't exist

if you won't lynch him, my next shot would be liancourt. this one's admittedly more of a crapshoot but it's based on 2 things:
- him also not doing anything substantial to solve the game in what activity i've seen from him
- an incident i saw in irc (no logs, gg, but snickers will confirm) where snickers was pushing him to give suspects or show anything indicating he was solving the game. liancourt just deflected pretty much everything and called snickers scum for omgusing

i'm not as confident here, because i've literally seen the second point happen to me when we were town together, but i think the two points in conjunction are good enough to lynch on.

after that there's onegu, who i prodded to play. i don't actually want to lynch him but we'll have to eventually since palmar doesn't modkill inactives.

there's a lot of people being townie though... i thought kurumi was town earlier, and i still do, but i'm looking to see how he deals with his geript push when he wakes up. i'll pm that thought process to you

after that shrug

EXPLAIN WHY HE SAYS THIS AFTER MULTIPLE HOURS TALKING TO HIM GERIPT.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 18:24 GMT
#681
brb dotos now.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 19:00 GMT
#687
I am not misrepresenting point 5. You are clearly staying out of the spotlight.

And it is a cold fact. You said to Oats that I was scum. And then you gave 5 reasons why I was town and why my read on snickers was good.
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February 20 2015 19:01 GMT
#689
Not yet. Soon my game is over and I come.
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February 20 2015 19:02 GMT
#690
Eden you have made 50 posts. Show me something insightful.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 19:58 GMT
#700
Not really Koshi.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 20:07 GMT
#703
http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/teamspeak.php
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 21:40 GMT
#740
Voice mafia.
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Koshi
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February 20 2015 21:49 GMT
#745
Are you at work?

Do you have your phone?

Are you at work?
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February 20 2015 22:01 GMT
#752
Eden. Are you 100% on SL?
I might want to change and I bring town with me.

Give me some fucking good reasons pls.
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February 20 2015 22:11 GMT
#754
My case on you is just better than your case on SL.

I can't sheep a worse case.
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February 21 2015 14:00 GMT
#822
If the cop doesnt want to claim to rayn, but does want to claim to me. Pls do so. I will noy tell rayn anything but will contact the doc.
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February 21 2015 14:46 GMT
#828
lol scumclaim
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February 21 2015 15:19 GMT
#832
Snickers is such a ??? to me this game.
Like I don't even know why he would say that.

Doesn't even make sense to say it as mafia. Especially because he knows we have the doc.
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February 21 2015 15:20 GMT
#833
hmm. I hope the thread knew that :/
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February 21 2015 15:21 GMT
#834
The reason why I don't have Snickers as mafia is because Eden tried to sell Snickers as mafia to Oats.
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February 21 2015 15:23 GMT
#835
On February 22 2015 00:04 sicklucker wrote:
Thats pretty much a scumclaim

explain to me why is a scumclaim.

I just wanted to put extra pressure on snickers for no real reason at all. Why did I get quoted 3 times?
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February 21 2015 15:26 GMT
#837
Yeah, I thought the guys who quoted me did. But sl seems to have a real reason.

call me interested.
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February 21 2015 17:40 GMT
#840
Siclucker his read on Snickers:

Original Message From sicklucker:
Hes trying to get the vote off eden. That should be mafias number one goal. Hes the roleblocker even. When he realizes its hopeless he wastes his vote what I expect from a bad scum player (you said he had one good town game but you never said hes ever been scum even once)

Dota game up


Sounds extremely lazy to me.
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February 21 2015 17:44 GMT
#841
Snickers can you explain this post to me?

On February 21 2015 05:55 Snickers wrote:
What a scummy post sl

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February 21 2015 17:46 GMT
#842
Why exactly was is scummy that sl said Palmar doesn't modkill.

Please explain it properly. So I understand why you found it scummy. Use a lot of words.
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February 21 2015 17:49 GMT
#843
On February 21 2015 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2015 05:50 Snickers wrote:
So i have to go to work in less than an hour but a quick skim of the thread is rayn looking scummyyyy.

Also time to let all you noobs know what is up. Lets see if you can catch my drift.

I am 100% sure as I can be that Onegu is not getting modkilled.

Somehow no one has mentioned that yet.


Someone explained to me that palmer never modkills out of thread I forget who koshi or rayn most likely

Like.. I don't understand this post.

Snickers says that Onegu 100% won't get modkilled

And then

sl answers with Onegu won't be modkilled?

It doesn't make sense why sl answers the same thing.
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February 21 2015 17:50 GMT
#844
Also, if the cop doesn't claim soon I am going to put the doc on the best townie. It's fine if you don't think you will be shot. But if you are lynchbait it is still not bad to claim to me.
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February 21 2015 17:56 GMT
#846
geript can you explain your sicklucker scumread to me?
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February 21 2015 18:01 GMT
#848
On February 19 2015 15:10 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 15:02 sicklucker wrote:
Oh great another day 1 fixated on me

overreaction much?

Ugh. I wonder if this is between scumbuddies. It is the only smart thing Eden would have said this game.
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February 21 2015 18:04 GMT
#849
On February 19 2015 23:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Snickers is not mafia.

Can you explain to me why you thought that here rayn?
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February 21 2015 18:08 GMT
#851
On February 22 2015 03:07 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 02:56 Koshi wrote:
geript can you explain your sicklucker scumread to me?

??? I don't have him as confirmed mafia or even likely mafia. He was just in the "not town" group.

Sure. But why.
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February 21 2015 18:09 GMT
#852
You clearly said: "sicklucker could still be mafia"
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February 21 2015 18:16 GMT
#853
geript can you actually just give me your reads? Like make a cute post good townies make before EoN. Except for Kurumi I don't really know what your reads are. And the Kurumi read is based on meta. Which is fine but doesn't show me that you are town.
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February 21 2015 18:17 GMT
#854
On February 19 2015 21:12 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Town:
Eden: Played with before when he was Mafia and Town but we he seems to be town this game.
Geript: Toneread says town he seems to ask some good questions.
Snickers: Being extremely serious and giving his thoughts freely it kind of reminds me of a more serious me.
Oatsmaster: Trying to get discussions going with pms and stuff but also he just being himself as town this game.
Liancourt: He seems interested this game which is a good sign for him being town although I never him play as Mafia before.
Null:
Koshi: 1 post from him this game and it isn't really alignment indicative.
sicklucker: I can't read him anymore on Day 1 after playing with him when he was Mafia and I was town. Also his Day 1 is bad.
VisceraEyes: 1 post and wasn't alignment indicative need more posts from him.

That's a goddamn huge list for so early into the game. It also seems to be only based on activity, nothing else. All arguments for people being town seem vague like its their purpose. Like reasoning for geript being town? He asks some good questions. If not all, which ones then? Why are they good? Snickers reasoning is based on him being serious and geript called him out on flip-flopping on his attitude already, so how does that work? Oats has done nothing than to suggest an IRC meeting (which worked quite well in Arkham Asylum although I claimed to Palmar, the third party - Joker quite fast >_>) I also don't see this interest in Liancourt. As for Eden I totally don't understand the reasoning.

LS, you got ripped off on the Weekly Mafia Fair, should've brought gold coin with you, not lead coin.

##vote LightningStrike

Geript's given me good vibes. He seems totes relaxed which makes me both happy and unnerved; I really expected him to at some point of conversation with Snickers to shout out "WHERE IS EVERYONE?".
Snickers seems genuine though. I shall reiterate: geript righteously called him out on changing his temper but I believe that's just the case of overconfidence. For now.
Eden was present for a long time from the very start and did not seem to be engaged in Snickers-Geript convo till later, which I find scummy. It is as if he feared getting involved at that point, because that'd put him in too much of a spotlight. He also wishes for people to PM him instead keeping his bone-box shut and doing it himself. Another person behaving suspiciously considering PMs is Koshi who wants people to post their "good PM logs" after "they're finished". Why? Why do you need this information? People converse privately to withdraw information from Mafia, why would they publish it? Why do you care?


Also this post from Kurumi. Doesn't it look good?
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Koshi
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February 21 2015 18:25 GMT
#857
On February 21 2015 03:30 geript wrote:
Best lynch order:
1. Kurumi
2. Liancourt
3. Snickers/SL/Onegu


Since you made this post. Can you show me what you did to further your reads?
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Koshi
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February 21 2015 18:26 GMT
#858
On February 22 2015 03:24 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 07:48 Kurumi wrote:
We're going 88 miles per hour


[image loading]

I know, this is quite unexpected.


Arkham Asylum was a great game. It really was dark and gritty, full of great plays, awesome with Palmar's Joker comics by the end of the game. Our game-wide IRC convos. Two threads at once both being very important to be a part of. There was a guy called notasmurf. Notasmurf has devised a great plan. Plan I have reused. Plan I believe has worked once again.

Say hello to Operation Honeypot.
I have set up five quicktopics before the game started. I would've used them differently as scum but it wasn't as sharp as the town version. Only one of them had four people including me, rest was three including me. Two quicktopics have been compromised. Those two are: VisceraEyes, LightiningStrike and geript, Oatsmaster. In both of them there is one person that should not get an access to the QT. Snickers never accessed his to my knowledge.

Showtime boys. Why were you sharing QTs with anyone? I don't care that there are three of you and I have only one too much. Maybe your partner is Onegu, who has not accessed my qt either.

This post from Kurumi. Doesn't it look bad?

No it doesn't al all. He could have believed it as town, got smashed back to reality and left the thread in disappointment.
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Koshi
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February 21 2015 18:29 GMT
#861
On February 22 2015 03:27 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 03:25 Koshi wrote:
On February 21 2015 03:30 geript wrote:
Best lynch order:
1. Kurumi
2. Liancourt
3. Snickers/SL/Onegu


Since you made this post. Can you show me what you did to further your reads?

Haven't really done much past that.

Yes I know, annoying isn't it.
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Koshi
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February 21 2015 18:32 GMT
#863
On February 22 2015 03:30 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 03:26 Koshi wrote:
On February 22 2015 03:24 geript wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:48 Kurumi wrote:
We're going 88 miles per hour


[image loading]

I know, this is quite unexpected.


Arkham Asylum was a great game. It really was dark and gritty, full of great plays, awesome with Palmar's Joker comics by the end of the game. Our game-wide IRC convos. Two threads at once both being very important to be a part of. There was a guy called notasmurf. Notasmurf has devised a great plan. Plan I have reused. Plan I believe has worked once again.

Say hello to Operation Honeypot.
I have set up five quicktopics before the game started. I would've used them differently as scum but it wasn't as sharp as the town version. Only one of them had four people including me, rest was three including me. Two quicktopics have been compromised. Those two are: VisceraEyes, LightiningStrike and geript, Oatsmaster. In both of them there is one person that should not get an access to the QT. Snickers never accessed his to my knowledge.

Showtime boys. Why were you sharing QTs with anyone? I don't care that there are three of you and I have only one too much. Maybe your partner is Onegu, who has not accessed my qt either.

This post from Kurumi. Doesn't it look bad?

No it doesn't al all. He could have believed it as town, got smashed back to reality and left the thread in disappointment.

Or he could've been mafia and got disappointed because I dreamcrushed his push.

Like 1 good or even ok post doesn't make someone town. Especially not a vet.

What push? You said he didn't push anything at all after that post and you found that scummy?
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Koshi
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February 21 2015 18:43 GMT
#866
On February 22 2015 03:38 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 03:32 Koshi wrote:
On February 22 2015 03:30 geript wrote:
On February 22 2015 03:26 Koshi wrote:
On February 22 2015 03:24 geript wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:48 Kurumi wrote:
We're going 88 miles per hour


[image loading]

I know, this is quite unexpected.


Arkham Asylum was a great game. It really was dark and gritty, full of great plays, awesome with Palmar's Joker comics by the end of the game. Our game-wide IRC convos. Two threads at once both being very important to be a part of. There was a guy called notasmurf. Notasmurf has devised a great plan. Plan I have reused. Plan I believe has worked once again.

Say hello to Operation Honeypot.
I have set up five quicktopics before the game started. I would've used them differently as scum but it wasn't as sharp as the town version. Only one of them had four people including me, rest was three including me. Two quicktopics have been compromised. Those two are: VisceraEyes, LightiningStrike and geript, Oatsmaster. In both of them there is one person that should not get an access to the QT. Snickers never accessed his to my knowledge.

Showtime boys. Why were you sharing QTs with anyone? I don't care that there are three of you and I have only one too much. Maybe your partner is Onegu, who has not accessed my qt either.

This post from Kurumi. Doesn't it look bad?

No it doesn't al all. He could have believed it as town, got smashed back to reality and left the thread in disappointment.

Or he could've been mafia and got disappointed because I dreamcrushed his push.

Like 1 good or even ok post doesn't make someone town. Especially not a vet.

What push? You said he didn't push anything at all after that post and you found that scummy?

The push that operation fail pot served any purpose.
And no, he specifically pushes me after that post despite me being the only person of the 4 to emphatically prove he's an idiot or scum. Like I don't get why you guys even found that push to be towny at all. Like it's clearly something planned prior to the game and can be used by any side.

How many times do I have to tell you that I don't think Kurumi is town.

Like...

How many fucking times?
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February 21 2015 18:48 GMT
#868
geript. Can you look into the thread and townread 1 out of snickers/lian/sl ? They made posts.
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February 21 2015 18:54 GMT
#871
I agree that Snickers is town.

You don't think it is useful the thread knows why? Everybody wants to lynch Snickers. And you keep it for yourself?
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February 21 2015 22:01 GMT
#886
I agree. Liancourt needs to step it up D2.
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February 21 2015 22:01 GMT
#887
Snickers, who are your top 3 scumreads? Only the names are fine.
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February 21 2015 22:56 GMT
#892
Scumreads:

geript:
This guy needs to die tomorrow. For following reasons:
1) geript said he talked with Eden for 2 hours. I don't believe this, and I think it is a lie that geript invented to protect Eden. I believe this because of 3 reasons. The first is that Eden said he had about Kurumi as town in his last readpost, this is odd when he talked 2 hours with geript about this. The second reason is that geript said that he townread Eden because both he and Eden had similar reads after the 2 hour talk, which is again not true because Eden said Kurumi was town. The third reason is that when I asked geript about what they talked about during this 2 hour period geript couldn't remember anything, he had to waffle around for 5 minutes because rayn and me kept asking what they talked about and geript couldn't remember.

This was a big lie to protect a buddy. I cannot believe that they really talked for 2 hours. I just can't.

2) geript scumslipped on TS. geript always had Eden as 100% town. He kept repeating Eden was 100% town on TS. It was a "mystical read". But I was convinced Eden was scum and talked about it with rayn and ignored geript. When rayn was convinced that Eden was scum and it was looking that Eden was going to get lynched geript said this: "You guys are going to lynch me when Eden flips scum aren't you". This is a very strange line of thought because geript was 100% town on Eden.

3) geript wants to lynch Kurumi based on what? Pure meta. I believe Kurumi is town. First of all, because Kurumi made a good post about Eden early on. It is a bit lost between the stuff on LS but it is a good post. That entire post is good. Secondly, I do not believe scum!Kurumi would kept going on about the QTs. Because scum!Kurumi would know that what he is typing is bullshit. It looked way more like town!Kurumi desperately keeping his big idea alive. And a third point is that Kurumi isn't really playing for a team, if I look at his posts it looks like he plays solo, and the guy got a history for ragequiting when the game is not fun for him. That might be the case here after the fiasco with the QTs.
Now why does geript want to kill Kurumi?
Because Kurumi caught geript! Do not forget that Kurumi was on geript his ass. Not only for the QT thing, but also because of geript his posting. Remember that! Mafia likes to push the townies that want to kill them, because by pushing them nothing changes, they just keep voting mafia. It is less ideal for mafia to push townies that don't think they are scum.

4) geript isn't doing anything really. Like come on... What did he already do? But geript has put multiple hours into this game already. It isn't the same if somebody like liancourt got nothing to show for or somebody like geript has nothing to show for. geript has been around for hours and hours. Yet we do not see his lynchpool getting smaller.
I asked him who he wanted to lynch and he said "the same people like 20 hours ago"... But when I pressed him further he could suddenly see that sicklucker and Snickers were town... geript is not ACTIVELY solving this game.


sicklucker:

Listen to rayn, he is still mafia for all the reasons of D1.
Do not think because Eden his vote was on sl that sl is town. MAFIA DID THIS TO LOOK GOOD. THEY BUSSED EACH OTHER D1.





FUCK I HAVE NO TIME. But remember that if sl and eden were town. The third mafia might have tried to set up a town lynch. DESPERATELY. As in. Lie about 2 hours conversations and shit.


I have no time left. Fuck me. But believe me.
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February 21 2015 22:59 GMT
#893
Snickers is likely town: Here is a shitton of extra information for you people. He is trying to solve the game. He is paranoid. He is town.

Here is stuff on sl:
+ Show Spoiler +


Original Message From Snickers:
Doesnt that lead to a post by Geript? And here are my notes on ls from most of day one.

1. "Shitty reader or shitty precedent". I think it I was refering to his first post here but I did not see how a townie misreading stuff so easily/much. Or was he trying to sway town.

2.Oh shit. I almost forgot. I cant find the post but there was a post i thought could be a scum slip. Someone wrote " we he " doesnt look like a typo but the person left a thought in by mistake. I think it might be Sl or eden since I wrote in my notes. Ls:"scum slip with Eden"

3. "His list post had a lot of bs in it " I think somebody already pointed this out. It was really wishy washy.

Oh yea i remember now I put Ls as town cause i thought eden was town. The scum slip made no sense if eden was town.

1. 2. and 3. all come from page before page 8 in the thread. Heres the rest from the thread and still chronologically in order by reflection on posts.

"ls reads wrong and is defensive"

"pm with koshi shows he thinks no one is mafia kinda"

Thats all.



Show nested quote +
Original Message From Koshi:
that is a post from you?

Original Message From Snickers:
I have been very busy and he wasnt my top concern. I have no clue if this is the right read but I felt like he has prty much been like LC not doing much.

Also would it be ok to refer to edens post like this?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478192-office-mini-mafia?page=4#68

Original Message From Koshi:
Why is ls not mafia?

Original Message From Snickers:
Yea idk when day is coming but I am assuming six. So before then. Also I dont want to put my reads in the thread. My top 3 scum in order are.

1.Lc I just decided this from my recent case/post about him
2. Geript
3. So i was thinking Onegu was here but since that wouldnt really matter I am saying its a tie between Ve and kurumi.

My reads seem to kind of be fucked. Like if kurumi is scum geript would maybe not be and vice versa. But there is only two mafia left.

Original Message From Koshi:
I don't think you should. Hmm. There is nothing in it that I didn't tell others. But I don't know. If they ever want to lynch you I think you should trow out everything you have.


You were going to give me some information on geript btw. Can you do that now?



Original Message From Snickers:
So koshi if you die. Is there a straight yes or no answer of if I should ever post are pms or tell anyone about them?

Original Message From Koshi:
Ok. I think rayn or I will die most likely but geript actually thinks you are the doc. So who knows? But they can't kill you I think. Unless mafia is really hiding still. Because you are lynchbait to a lot of townies.


Original Message From Snickers:
Ok well I dont want to send out my thoughts on geript until day 2. Just in case I am the planned night kill. Would it be ok If I pmed you some simple things that I think geript did that are scummy. That way If i die you could just post the pm. and yea getting back to what you put in thread now.

Original Message From Koshi:
Please play a good game bro.
I got you as possible town but a lot of people want to lynch you.

sicklucker/VE/rayn/oats all want to lynch you and personally I think that geript/sicklucker is the scumteam.

So play very good and make sure that you help town win this game.


You are like 4th on my lynchlist. But I feel strong about the first 2.



[quote]



Here is a lot of stuff on geript. He quotes on a strange way but read it and it makes sense, ask him questions if needed:
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[23:25] == Koshi_ [webchat@109.132.49.250] has joined #Snickers
[23:31] == Snickers [webchat@dynamic-acs-24-101-59-29.zoominternet.net] has joined #Snickers
[23:31] <Snickers> hey koshi
[23:31] <Snickers> I am going to start blabering about geript cause time is short. Palmar confirmed.
[23:32] <Snickers> Am i in the right spot?
[23:33] <Snickers> From geripts filter.
[23:33] <Snickers> 9. Why do you think that?
[23:34] <Snickers> here he puts up two question I think they are not connected by agenda or flow. I wonder if anyone else thinks they are off too.
[23:34] <Snickers> 12. If you dont think
[23:35] <Snickers> this post reminds geript my posting style, he likes to read very specifically
[23:35] <Snickers> this is important later on
[23:36] <Snickers> 13. At first I was prty town on snicks seemed weird as fuck based on tone
[23:37] <Snickers> seemed weird as fuck based on tone (Sorry haha) also he already is talking about lynching and he is completly misreading me? Or is he swaying town
[23:38] <Snickers> 17. I have read a number of people
[23:38] <Snickers> Here i wasnt asking about the significance of first post I was asking about tone reads
[23:39] <Snickers> He seems to be swaying and now assuming he is town, he 100% loses his close reading abilities. People have been saying town geript can put presssure on yada yada but why would he fail to read closely here
[23:40] <@Koshi_> hmm hard to follow if you use postnumbers like that
[23:40] <@Koshi_> but it is ok
[23:40] <@Koshi_> Keep going and I read it.
[23:40] <Snickers> And now im not referring to any particular post but if you look at edens posts, eden mutilple times is telling me to give pms a chance but eden himself keeps saying how he think he wont use them? like wtf I am dissapointed i missed this
[23:40] <@Koshi_> I am making a case on geript atm in the thread.
[23:40] <Snickers> Sorry koshi but if I die i just want someone to have this info to post
[23:41] <Snickers> I will make a proper case if I live
[23:41] <@Koshi_> Keep going and we copy this log into the thread before deadline
[23:41] <@Koshi_> It's good stuff
[23:41] <Snickers> noooo
[23:41] <Snickers> not before deadline im trying to bait kill from geript
[23:41] <@Koshi_> 1 second before bro
[23:41] <@Koshi_> When they can't change anymore
[23:41] <Snickers> thanks for reminding me. Note to all playerss: Geript posted multiple times trying to get my role and acting like I was a pr.
[23:41] <Snickers> Oh ok
[23:42] <Snickers> Note to all players: Also I have been sending geript pms to act like I have been medic the way I think a geript scum would see me ass medic
[23:42] <Snickers> ill just repost what I sent him here
[23:43] <Snickers> Original Message From Snickers: So lets say person a is 100% the cop. If two scum are left, Would person a admit to being the cop and give his red check out. Hide nested quote - Original Message From geript: I would save one of Me/Koshi/Rayn/VE. They're all town and they have to shoot one of us. Like you should talk to us way more if I'm right and you are the medic. That said, the rb being gone only means that there's 1 mafia
[23:43] <Snickers> Ok that didnt work
[23:43] <Snickers> Just trust me haha
[23:45] <Snickers> Page 2 of Geript filter post 6: @kurumi I actually dont believe....
[23:45] <Snickers> Ok so easy way to look townie as shit would be prove kurumi wrong and I am fine with that.
[23:45] <Snickers> But I feel like he is shitting up the thread with how much he argues with kurumi
[23:46] <Snickers> Also this is a weak point but to look townie I would have done something similar. As soon as I saw kurums post I was thinking damn if I was scum I would be disproving this shit and trying to push kurumi.
[23:46] <Snickers> I still have no clue what to think about kurumi
[23:47] <Snickers> Lol koshi if you were mafia you could totally fuck me by killing me and not posting this at deadline ahah
[23:48] <@Koshi_> You can also post it bro
[23:49] <@Koshi_> jsut do it on minute 59
[23:49] <Snickers> haha yea
[23:51] <Snickers> So yea time is running out If i do die I would try to find that scum slip if i where you. And yea geript missing that Eden fuckup at the start of the game is extra bad if he was still around doing close reading hard to prove that
[23:52] <Snickers> page 4 number 14
[23:52] <Snickers> Here is the list for d1 lynch candidates
[23:54] <Snickers> limiting shit down and he mentions Onegu is lynch bait? Well everyone said I was wrong for saying this so....... I am not on the list cause geript is reading me medic
[23:54] <Snickers> His next post kinda shows that in retrospect haha
[23:55] <Snickers> Also another note
[23:56] <Snickers> how the hell is a town geript reading me medic. Like he approached me first about being medic so then I started to act like I was but I dont see how a townie sees me as medic in this game
[23:58] <Snickers> Geript seems to have fallen off a lot like yea its a pm game but I just see close reading which went to trying to look townie/shitting up the thread
[23:58] <Snickers> and saying people they are wrong which is what I do
[23:58] <Snickers> gonna try to find scum slip about Eden and ls in on min
[23:58] <@Koshi_> Ok I am putting this all in spoilers
[23:58] <@Koshi_> This is the last thing.
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February 21 2015 22:59 GMT
#894
Solve this game. Make liancourt do things.

DON'T BE LAZY

DO NOT LYNCH ONEGU UNLESS YOU HAVE FULL ROLECLAIMS.

MATHS SAY THAT ONEGU IS LIKELY TOWN.
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February 21 2015 23:08 GMT
#896
##vote geript

rayn you are a sexy bastard.
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February 22 2015 00:05 GMT
#913
Ok. My vote stays on geript.
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February 22 2015 02:04 GMT
#927
I hope you aren't playing with me.
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February 22 2015 02:30 GMT
#934
VE it is your job to see if geript is town. And that there is merit in this kurumi thing. I can't do that.
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February 22 2015 05:16 GMT
#939
We got 3 people not playing the game and I am fine where I am.
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February 22 2015 05:20 GMT
#942
It is 6 am and I am really tired. Want to chat quickly or?
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February 22 2015 05:23 GMT
#944
I took VE his advice and reread the chatlog with rayn. And rayn said this:

[16:04] <raynpelikoneet> after me and ve voted eden, geript goes to sicklucker hard. when the next big switch to eden happens geript just gives up and votes for kurumi, not even pushing sicklucker any more
[16:05] <raynpelikoneet> yeah okay that makes sense


I have been trying to make geript say why sicklucker is mafia the entire night. (And I asked sicklucker a million times why geript is mafia.) But they never give me an answer. Or not a good answer. geript got sicklucker as town now.

But then I look at the voting thread and I see this:
On February 21 2015 04:47 geript wrote:
##unvote
##vote sicklucker


Why did this happen? Why did he vote sl?
And why can't geript give me 1 reason why sicklucker is mafia?
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February 22 2015 05:25 GMT
#945
On February 22 2015 14:22 LightningStrike wrote:
I was just asking because I was staying up for another game and thought we could chat.

nha I am off to bed. Try to have a chat with Liancourt. He needs to play.
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February 22 2015 15:57 GMT
#963
Original Message From sicklucker:
In most likely order

Snicker
kurimi
lian
geript
ve
oats
ls

something
like
that


Why are you suddenly so sure geript is town?
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February 22 2015 16:04 GMT
#965
What if I told you that Kurumi is greenchecked?
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February 22 2015 16:06 GMT
#968
This doesn't change your view on geript at all?
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February 22 2015 16:07 GMT
#970
This is how this game will go sicklucker.

+ Show Spoiler +
We lynch geript.
We copcheck liancourt. If he is green↓
We lynch you.
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February 22 2015 16:08 GMT
#972
Why?
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February 22 2015 16:09 GMT
#973
Explain that.

We got greencheck on both Kurumi and liancourt then. How will it lose us the game? Who is mafia?
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February 22 2015 16:09 GMT
#975
You fucking know you are town. So explain to me how a greencheck on lian + Kurumi lost us the game?
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February 22 2015 16:10 GMT
#977
I want you to show me some train of thought that is actually town sicklucker. We did a perfect check on Kurumi that shows geript is bullshitting us 24/7.

We won't check you because you keep yelling to copcheck you and that you are VT.
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February 22 2015 16:11 GMT
#979
On February 23 2015 01:10 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 01:09 Koshi wrote:
Explain that.

We got greencheck on both Kurumi and liancourt then. How will it lose us the game? Who is mafia?


snickers why do you town read him holycrap

lol... You can't figure it out can't you. Oh well. Shouldn't have killd rayn bro.
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February 22 2015 19:23 GMT
#992
On February 22 2015 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you are mafia though.

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February 22 2015 19:26 GMT
#995
Thank you.
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February 22 2015 20:30 GMT
#1005
Hmm? I am mafia?
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February 22 2015 21:14 GMT
#1008
Problem is that he doesn't make any sense at all and therefore it looks like a last effort to not get lynched.
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February 22 2015 21:38 GMT
#1010
By making sense and not yell that everybody is mafia?
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February 22 2015 21:39 GMT
#1011
For example. His reaction to my case on him was: "how can you make such a good case on Eden and such a shitty one on me"


He townread Eden 24/7... Why was it good if he didn't believe it at all?
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February 22 2015 22:10 GMT
#1014
23/7
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February 22 2015 22:47 GMT
#1021
24h left
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February 22 2015 23:36 GMT
#1044
He is calling me mafia while I solo lynched Eden. I made the case, I pushed the case, I made rayn sheep me on TS.

Like...

Imagine me doing that as mafia.

kk

If geript is town he is trash. So in 24h we will know if he is mafia or trash.

None of those are welcome in my town.
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February 22 2015 23:36 GMT
#1045
On February 23 2015 08:32 Snickers wrote:
So i am probably going to just ignore what Ve and geript say till the lynch. I dont feel like reading a bunch of bs. If someone thinks something important in it I guess pm me. anyway is Eden a guy or girl? Anyone know?

guy
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February 22 2015 23:56 GMT
#1050
GRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I don't know.

I don't fucking know.

I am going to remove my vote on geript and seee what happens.

##unvote
##vote LighteningStrike

Where did this guy go to?
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Koshi
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February 23 2015 00:01 GMT
#1053
If people need towncred.
Snickers towngame and Snickers scumgame.

PM ME what you think Snickers is this game based on meta.

Snickers town:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461330-noir-mini-mafia-chapter-2?user=snickers
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?user=Snickers

Snickers mafia:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/460423-a-fire-upon-the-deep-mini-mafia?user=Snickers
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February 23 2015 00:08 GMT
#1055
Magic?
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February 23 2015 00:21 GMT
#1064
So your conclusion is that it was a bus?
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February 23 2015 00:23 GMT
#1066
geript bro. Please. I removed my vote. Can you now play serious?
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February 23 2015 00:24 GMT
#1067
On February 23 2015 09:23 geript wrote:
Like Rayn switched with 15+ minutes left. There's more than enough time to switch anywhere that's a reasonable lynch likelihood if I'm mafia. I could stay on SL, follow Snickers. Like, that vote count looks really, really suspicious because nothing happened. Like either mafia is mostly AFK in which case I'm very likely right on Kurumi or it was a bus; and the people who gain the most from a bus are SL and Koshi.

Why not VE or LS?

I pushed the entire Eden thing ffs.
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February 23 2015 00:36 GMT
#1074
On February 23 2015 09:31 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 09:24 Koshi wrote:
On February 23 2015 09:23 geript wrote:
Like Rayn switched with 15+ minutes left. There's more than enough time to switch anywhere that's a reasonable lynch likelihood if I'm mafia. I could stay on SL, follow Snickers. Like, that vote count looks really, really suspicious because nothing happened. Like either mafia is mostly AFK in which case I'm very likely right on Kurumi or it was a bus; and the people who gain the most from a bus are SL and Koshi.

Why not VE or LS?

I pushed the entire Eden thing ffs.

LS as mafia has huge impetus to put his vote elsewhere because he's being townread and can reasonably put it on both SL and Snickers. Like it's possible he's mafia bussing, but there's far less impetus for him to be voting this way. If he's mafia, then the most likely mafia team is LS, SL and Eden.

VE. Can reasonably stay or push SL a bit harder. Like people like him more than me and listen to him more than me and can make enough of a little push to keep it on SL if he's town.

But I can just not push Eden like a motherfucker at all and lynch sicklucker with rayn?
rayn told me to vote sicklucker, I went on TS and convinced rayn to vote Eden....

Why would I do that?
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February 23 2015 00:37 GMT
#1075
On February 23 2015 09:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been pming Koshi and playing games today T_T I see Koshi is voting me which making me be a little icky considering he been townreading me.

icky how?

Are you also going to call me mafia?
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February 23 2015 00:51 GMT
#1077
On February 23 2015 09:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 09:37 Koshi wrote:
On February 23 2015 09:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been pming Koshi and playing games today T_T I see Koshi is voting me which making me be a little icky considering he been townreading me.

icky how?

Are you also going to call me mafia?

You were town reading all of yesterday ands we even talked on irc and shit but idk why you voting me even after talking about Geript in irc.

Could you take a look at snickers his meta? I made a post about his previous games.
PM me the result. I want to compare what people say.
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February 23 2015 01:28 GMT
#1102
hahaha
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February 23 2015 01:33 GMT
#1105
This game got insane. The easiest solution would be that geript and sicklucker truly are mafia.

But am I that good?

hmm. I will dream about it.
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February 23 2015 09:40 GMT
#1224
On February 23 2015 15:20 sicklucker wrote:
Well he did flip I just though it was today not last night. Either way koshis vote on ls was so bad im sure mafia knew what was up

O rly. Tell me more.
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February 23 2015 09:42 GMT
#1225
I want to lynch geript. If he flips red I want to lynch sicklucker for making defending geript his nr 1 prior this game.

If geript flips green I want to lynch Kurumi/liancourt/sicklucker.


I townread all other players in this game. Like hard townread them.



This is my final answer for D2. geript dies.
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February 23 2015 10:29 GMT
#1228
On February 23 2015 19:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why don't you want to lynch sl instead?
Also, why did you ask ls to check sl?

I said to check into kurumi/lc/sl/geript with a preference of sl/geript.

I missed that sl said that he wanted to get copchecked in TS, but VE told me that afterwards.

But I never asked ls to check sl over anybody. I still have the logs from that conversation. But at home.
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February 23 2015 11:12 GMT
#1231
Tears of joy. You are back.
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February 23 2015 11:42 GMT
#1233
Kurumi. You are planning on doing stuff right?
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February 23 2015 14:14 GMT
#1237
On February 23 2015 23:10 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 18:42 Koshi wrote:
I want to lynch geript. If he flips red I want to lynch sicklucker for making defending geript his nr 1 prior this game.

If geript flips green I want to lynch Kurumi/liancourt/sicklucker.


I townread all other players in this game. Like hard townread them.



This is my final answer for D2. geript dies.

You're hard tow reading oats and snickers? That's like really bad. Guess you are mafia.

You keep calling me mafia because I scumread you and townread others. But you do realize what happened with Eden D1 right?

Oats is not hiding bro. He is not. I think we discussed how town he was. I agree he fell off a bit D2. But I am not convinced he is scum at all.

Snickers? I think he is town. He has gotten a couple really good posts in last 12 hours.
And I was talking to him right before EoN and he was making sense and he had some serious levels of town paranoia. But normal paranoia. Not AMAGAD EVERYBODY IS SCUM HERPDERP HURRDURR that you are showcasing.
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February 23 2015 14:15 GMT
#1238
geript can you explain to me what sicklucker is doing?
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February 23 2015 14:34 GMT
#1243
1) You had a 2 hour conversation with him on the phone.
2) You had a mystical townread of his first post.
3) Koshi, Oats, Ve, Kurumi, Liancourt are mafia.
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February 23 2015 14:35 GMT
#1244
Ohyeah, Snickers as well.
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February 23 2015 14:50 GMT
#1250
On February 23 2015 23:42 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 23:14 Koshi wrote:
On February 23 2015 23:10 geript wrote:
On February 23 2015 18:42 Koshi wrote:
I want to lynch geript. If he flips red I want to lynch sicklucker for making defending geript his nr 1 prior this game.

If geript flips green I want to lynch Kurumi/liancourt/sicklucker.


I townread all other players in this game. Like hard townread them.



This is my final answer for D2. geript dies.

You're hard tow reading oats and snickers? That's like really bad. Guess you are mafia.

You keep calling me mafia because I scumread you and townread others. But you do realize what happened with Eden D1 right?

Oats is not hiding bro. He is not. I think we discussed how town he was. I agree he fell off a bit D2. But I am not convinced he is scum at all.

Snickers? I think he is town. He has gotten a couple really good posts in last 12 hours.
And I was talking to him right before EoN and he was making sense and he had some serious levels of town paranoia. But normal paranoia. Not AMAGAD EVERYBODY IS SCUM HERPDERP HURRDURR that you are showcasing.

I don't believe your conversation with Snickers ever happened. Clearly you are mafia trying to protect him.

I posted logs.

And I remember things about our conversation. Like the paranoia. Unlike other people, who we shall name geript, who were not able to remember a single thing about a 2 hour conversation.
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February 23 2015 14:52 GMT
#1251
On February 23 2015 23:40 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 23:34 Koshi wrote:
1) You had a 2 hour conversation with him on the phone.
2) You had a mystical townread of his first post.
3) Koshi, Oats, Ve, Kurumi, Liancourt are mafia.

Plz bish. Eden hadn't even flipped and you were thinking about lynching me next. Like your case on me is literally fucking terrible. I hope you keep on playing here.

Why is this a problem? I am forbidden to want to lynch all the mafias?
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February 23 2015 14:54 GMT
#1253
On February 23 2015 23:53 geript wrote:
Yah Koshi, because mafia are never ever going to be more convincing 1 on 1.

I don't understand this sentence.
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February 23 2015 14:57 GMT
#1255
Oh you are saying that in this 2 hour conversation in which you discussed all your reads and all people in the game (your words) Eden was so obvious town that he totally owned you.

But you were not able to give us 1 example of a good read Eden had.



Like... I don't know why I talk to you and keep repeating this. I guess I am just such a kind soul that I keep giving you chances to make any fucking sense but it is not happening.
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February 23 2015 15:00 GMT
#1256
On February 23 2015 23:56 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 23:52 Koshi wrote:
On February 23 2015 23:40 geript wrote:
On February 23 2015 23:34 Koshi wrote:
1) You had a 2 hour conversation with him on the phone.
2) You had a mystical townread of his first post.
3) Koshi, Oats, Ve, Kurumi, Liancourt are mafia.

Plz bish. Eden hadn't even flipped and you were thinking about lynching me next. Like your case on me is literally fucking terrible. I hope you keep on playing here.

Why is this a problem? I am forbidden to want to lynch all the mafias?

Because your reads are fucking terrible. I'm not mafia Koshi. I wasn't lying 3 days ago when Rayn said there was exactly 1 person who could be mafia in the ts channel and he said its me and I said I don't think I could ever actually be mafia in this game.

Look at your memory actually working.

But your reasons were bad.

Also do you remember why you said that?

Because 1 minute earlier rayn said I was 100% town. He said I could NEVER BE MAFIA. That he knows when I am mafia after I open my mouth in voice. And we talked for so long even after that, and rayn still had me as 100% town.

You remember all that geript? And who are you pushing today? Koshi. rofl.
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February 23 2015 15:02 GMT
#1258
Not to mention that all the talk after that was me convincing rayn (and VE/you) that Eden was mafia. Because not only did I want to have rayn 100% townread me, I also really wanted to bus my partner obviously.
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February 23 2015 15:05 GMT
#1259
On February 24 2015 00:01 geript wrote:
Look at your case on me Koshi. It never mattered what I said. Like I could've gone unCC'd as medic and you'd still want to lynch me.

Bullshit. Fucking bullshit.

I made a case because I believed in it right before EoN.


I was convinced by my case and I voted you D2. If you would have not trown everything you know overboard and tried to work this out with me, we might have gotten another situation at this point in time. But because you are mafia you decided to instantly plead to town instead of me as your defense. (which is horrible because you should know for a fact I am town)

And then after I put some pressure on your buddy sicklucker mafia decided to go all in.


ezpz get rekt ez rares ez mmr.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 15:07 GMT
#1262
If you are town mafia lies within Kurumi/liancourt/sicklucker and the only reason why you died first is because you are a horrible player.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 15:11 GMT
#1264
Yes. scum!Kurumi is very thankful that you decided to be a brainless twat over a reasonable human being when I made my case on you. and the 30 hours after that.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 15:21 GMT
#1268
hahahaha oh boy.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 15:21 GMT
#1269
I didn't lynch you in Imperial. That was all you.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 15:24 GMT
#1272
I died N1. You were the one saying how obvious town I was D2 and that town should totally sheep my reads and not lynch poor you.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 15:31 GMT
#1276
And the reason why you claim is what?

dis game.

w.e

I am out
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 15:36 GMT
#1279
Very well geript. Very well.

Who will we lynch today?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 15:42 GMT
#1284
Hmm. Kinda funny I just sent him a message that he convinced me he was town.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 15:44 GMT
#1286
##unvote
##vote Liancourt


I could vote Kurumi/sicklucker as well. I am out.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 15:55 GMT
#1292
liancourt called me town hero after the lynch. But for some reason he now thinks I bussed and that geript is town because his case on me is awesome.

I doubt it. but I guess anything is possible.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 16:46 GMT
#1307
On February 21 2015 20:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure we don't. I don't think he is mafia and after all he promised to play better starting form like now. So if he doesn't deliver he's gonna get caught anyways.

I think the remaining scum are in:
liancourt
Kurumi
Onegu

in that order.

I think rayn might be right about top 2 and I fucked up. I do Kurumi first.

I would be impressed if sicklucker is town though.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 17:11 GMT
#1310
Yes it is. He defended a fellow townie pretty hard.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 17:12 GMT
#1311
I would also be surprised to see sicklucker be town. But if he is I would be impressed.

That's what I mean.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 20:43 GMT
#1328
Kurumi liancourt

#ibelieve
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 20:44 GMT
#1329
Like I can only see sicklucker be not town.

And that might be because I am bad.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 22:55 GMT
#1330
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 22:56 GMT
#1331
I also don't believe it is strong enough. But hey. Let geript have his lynch.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 23:03 GMT
#1333
Obviously.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 23:04 GMT
#1334
Will do things tomorrow.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 23 2015 23:20 GMT
#1336
Anyway. Pretty sure liancourt is mafia. Pretty sure.

Like pretty pretty sure.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 24 2015 07:54 GMT
#1360
But you are still scum.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 24 2015 07:58 GMT
#1361
Oats is 100% town it makes full sense.

VE played a beast game if he is scum. But I guess he could do it? But he played a beast game if he is scum. I dont think he can. But I am running out of suspects.

so I am left with ff, sl and liancourt. Cop will clear one and we lynch the other. sl will live another day
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 24 2015 13:58 GMT
#1364
So. VE or Oats want to talk on irc? PM me.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 24 2015 14:46 GMT
#1366
I can't do IRC at work. I pm you something else.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 24 2015 14:59 GMT
#1368
Because IT decided it doesn't help us with work and blocked it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 24 2015 22:59 GMT
#1379
If I die.

Liancourt
Sicklucker
VE

Oats

Rest is town 100% certain
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 24 2015 23:00 GMT
#1380
Tell the thread ezverything guys
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 05 2015 15:12 GMT
#2205
Thx for win remaining townies.


geript reads:

D1:
Kurumi scum
Eden 100% town

D2:
Koshi scum
Sicklucker very town
Snickers scum
Oats scum


Proof:
On February 23 2015 23:10 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 18:42 Koshi wrote:
I want to lynch geript. If he flips red I want to lynch sicklucker for making defending geript his nr 1 prior this game.

If geript flips green I want to lynch Kurumi/liancourt/sicklucker.


I townread all other players in this game. Like hard townread them.



This is my final answer for D2. geript dies.

You're hard tow reading oats and snickers? That's like really bad. Guess you are mafia.


On February 23 2015 23:34 geript wrote:
Basically here's where I'm at:
People who have a very realistic shot of being mafia:
Oats
Liancourt
Kurumi
Koshi
Snickers
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 05 2015 15:15 GMT
#2206
Then decides to flame me in the next game on my reads in an ongoing game.

Trash tier. Lowest level of trash tier.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 05 2015 15:17 GMT
#2207
On March 05 2015 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wow Koshi sick cases. Sick cases. <3
geript terrible cases.

right back at you. sicklucker read D1 was legit.

And we weren't at each other throat about which scummer we wanted to lynch.

Good times.
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