VII Titanic Mini Mafia: I Have a Cunning Plan...

On February 11 2015 23:03 rsoultin wrote:


<3s the deadline

I can go to work and still actually be around for EoD! lol

xP hi LS! you're gonna make me some nice cases this game, yeah?

On February 12 2015 06:11 Blazinghand wrote:
/in

not clear if there is room. if there is, i'm in.

On February 14 2015 09:31 Town Puppy wrote:

mmmmmm

On February 14 2015 14:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Sorry to hear that LS.

What do you think of Robik so far btw?

On February 14 2015 14:18 Half the Sky wrote:
So you think Robik deserves his own category, just like Vivax did in Void?

You played with him in Linux I believe, no basis for comparison even in the slightest?

(I know you didn't play Void, but I know you shadowed/obsed that game, and if you remember Vivax's craziness....)

On February 14 2015 14:30 IAmRobik wrote:

The person who hates RNG and IML is using it against the person who loves it. Do you not appreciate irony? Only mafia doesn't appreciate irony

On February 14 2015 14:31 Half the Sky wrote:


You played with Robik in Metal Mini (I think?) and in Linux. Why do you think he deserves his own category now? Didn't you form your reads on him in prior games?

On February 14 2015 23:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up and saw the RNG lynch plan by BH involving VA and saw Palmar been talking with Rayn about HTS's Miller claim. I also not liking Superbia but it might be paranoia because the last I played with him it was my very first game on TL and he was Mafia and I called him out for his opening being really scummy and I feeling the same way this game. Hmmmmm.

On February 15 2015 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:

No i don't care about meta in this instance.

On February 14 2015 23:15 prplhz wrote:

no i rolled mafia so please help me with the blue hunting.


for realsies?


why these players?

On February 15 2015 00:33 IAmRobik wrote:

LS, why did you waste time making this post? I want you to write a 3 page dissertation about the legitimacy of this question, what you think you'll gain from it, and why the fuck you are wasting people's time (including your own) by writing dumb shit

On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:

Have I ever mentioned how much LightningStrike is my favorite person on TL?

On February 15 2015 00:56 rsoultin wrote:


Death by number logic? lolol

On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

On November 03 2014 11:25 LightningStrike wrote:
I messed up my edit by post and I had read the stuff he wrote earlier in the thread and he seemed fishy per say and this my first time playing mafia here on TL :O

On February 15 2015 01:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Superbia done a similar style of opening on Campus when I played my very first game on TL and here was his opening post:

This was my response to his opening

I getting the same type of feeling on him this as I had in Campus but this time I got more experience and not afraid of him now.
##Vote: Superbia

On February 15 2015 01:56 Half the Sky wrote:


Is this a gut read or is there a specific post in Superbia's filter that jumped out at you?

On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:


So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious?

On February 15 2015 08:20 Superbia wrote:


Then why are you using that game for reference?

On February 15 2015 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:
What is campus?

On February 15 2015 09:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
rayn when you read this tell me how similar you find BH to his persona as Old Partner in golden sun. when I read his posts I feel like he is talking to other people and having a laugh. Reminds me of that game with how forced he is pushing this agenda with these long awful posts

On February 15 2015 11:44 rsoultin wrote:


Not sure, honestly. He does bounce around a lot as town :/ as someone pointed out earlier, and it certainly wouldn't be the first time he built up a weak case on bad logic.

What's your read on HtS and Rayn, LS?

On February 15 2015 12:22 LightningStrike wrote:

HTS Null She doesn't seem like herself this game :|
Rayn most likely town he and I got the same scum read on superbia and his posting seems like his normal town meta for now.

On February 15 2015 12:24 Fecalfeast wrote:

Near the beginning of the game when HtS was trying to make me seem uncomfortable, she said she was playing her normal town game. Where do you see differences?

On February 15 2015 13:56 rsoultin wrote:


EBWOP:
Also don't see the initial townread in Rayn's filter to somehow justify his calling LS town so definitively when he's responding about Robik.

On February 16 2015 00:03 Palmar wrote:

I don't know, it's still weekend and I'm only semi-caught up with everything.

I thought Robik looked good in the exchange regarding HTS with rayn, and he also townread me correctly, although he might of course do that as both alignments. Still, the read feels very much like a "robik-read" (he read me town last game for posting 4 times in a row, because magic). So I think he is town.

Ksc could be mafia, I just pointed out how he didn't follow up on his very inconclusive big post by talking about something different entirely, then I left the thread and he just happened to do the same. Like I just don't get the feeling he's particularly interested in pushing prplhz or anyone else from his big post.

FF idk, he's just here, but at least he's sheeping me... so there's that?

prplhz could be town? I don't know, but I didn't get the feeling he was trying to call me mafia for reading the OP, he just pointed out that it was strange behavior for Palmar to do that.

So many people though that I have very little opinion on, mostly because I haven't been here all that much.

Btw, the fact that rayn hasn't come back to the thread might be indicative that I'm right, basically clam up marv-style (which is actually a good move if you're mafia. No confirming more townies and no giving up teammates). Also his weird trap thing where he asked me if I knew why he thought Ksc was mafia has gone on for way too long.

This is more meta and less strong than my main point, but if I thought someone is mafia (like rayn seems to think with ksc) I could hardly shut up about it. Waiting like 24 hours for some random person in the game to give his opinion on it seems way overkill. I'd be convincing other people by that time.

On February 16 2015 00:52 Palmar wrote:


Oh god LS

On February 16 2015 00:56 prplhz wrote:
@palmar i don't know if i'm remembering this correctly, but rayn is usually all over the place isn't he? i mean he had a list post in this very game like 6 hours into the game where he claims that he found the entire scum team. it's pretty ridiculous but he's just very convinced of one thing and then suddenly of another, very jumpy. i remember that game where he thought i was scum and you and marv had to do your very best to change his mind but at that point he had thought i was scum every single game we had played together (think we had played four games), he just had a thing for me. i don't think that means he never reconsiders his reads, especially his early "flakier" reads.

i agree that that "guess why i think ksc is mafia"-thing is weird and that's after he went to the sauna he's uncharacteristically disappeared though that could be for other reasons.

also, as much as i hate to say it, slam and bh are right, we're nowhere right now and we should consolidate. ksc had a terrible entrance to this thread and the only substantial thing he's done is this weird hard defense of rayn. bh looking good for pointing it out but very bad for sticking with this VA thing, it's getting way too old by now.

On February 16 2015 01:36 rsoultin wrote:


Lol, honestly? I don't have much of an opinion on him this game so far. His read on Rayn makes sense (and partially lines up with my own) but it also reads like OMGUS ^^ Getting the impression that vets fall for OMGUS way more than other players when someone scumreads them, so I'm taking it with a grain of salt.

You mentioned something about him playing on the weekend? Do you think that's significant?

On February 16 2015 01:33 Palmar wrote:

read the post very carefully.

I'm saying RAYN (not me) is clamping up.

Also I have literally no thoughts on ritoky, so they cannot by definition be interesting.

Although I guess the fact that I have no thoughts is noteworthy, as I tend to ignore mafia because their posts are so bland all the time.

On February 16 2015 02:30 IAmRobik wrote:

Do you know how to read?

On February 16 2015 04:08 Half the Sky wrote:


Just saw this.

Where are your reads on others? Or if you live to D2 and beyond are you going to keep RNGing people?

Step it up Blazinghand. Now.

##unvote
##vote Blazinghand

On February 16 2015 04:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
isnt the jailkeeper lord percy a mafia role?

On February 16 2015 05:03 prplhz wrote:

I don't even know what this means.

##Vote Breshke

I can get with this. Reading his filter I don't think anything points at him being town or mafia. I didn't even remember he was in this game. Text book under the radar guy. This is a lot better than raynpelikoneet and VayneAuthority and what else is going around. I'm even willing to let KelsierSC go for now because he's actually around doing stuff.

On February 16 2015 05:36 Town Puppy wrote:
Hey I'm back but super busy with work. Will not be able to catch up before EOD.

Did I see that someone claimed a role? If so who.

On February 16 2015 05:38 Town Puppy wrote:

Lol game is easy

Will the real Lord Percy please stand up?

Oh wait I already am

##VOTE: Blazinghand

Get fucked sson

On February 16 2015 05:40 Town Puppy wrote:

Count on it amigo

RIP Blazinghand

On February 16 2015 06:31 Breshke wrote:
So im fairly sure superbia is scum here aswell

He opens up with a scumread on Rayn with no explanation. This is his response when asked why he didn't talk more about his rayn read



Which is total bullshit as maybe one other player at the time was scum reading rayn so why would town superbia not try and convince the rest of town that rayn was scum. This is infact a great way to get town read because ive seen vets give newer players townpasses for going after big targets like rayn would be this game.

The only thing that gives me pause is that he then goes on to try and find a flaw in BH's RNG which is really awkward to me. Like he has a scumread but instead drops it to focus on the semantics of scum bh's RNG.

On February 16 2015 08:20 rsoultin wrote:


Do you have a vested interest in killing one over the other? Seems that this statement applies equally to both ^^ assuming that there is a vig in this game.

On February 16 2015 10:14 IAmRobik wrote:

He literally does this every game. He doesn't play mafia. He plays post on a forum

On February 16 2015 10:17 Fecalfeast wrote:

If you think slam is mafia for meta reasons why do you need thread approval to make a case?

On February 16 2015 11:04 liancourt wrote:
tp's the goon so it'd be pointless jking him. Why would the RB/jan/GF CC, that is absurd

On February 16 2015 11:06 Town Puppy wrote:

Do you actually believe what you're saying? I'm contemplating posting my role PM and blacklisting you forever. You are intolerably bad.

On February 16 2015 12:10 Superbia wrote:


I skimmed the thread to find out what has happened. I'm still catching up with actual reading.

I had a scum-lean on puppy before, so that will have to suffice as an answer for the moment. Why are you asking this question?

On February 16 2015 12:14 Superbia wrote:
I realize they both claimed JK. That doesn't answer my question.

On February 16 2015 12:18 Superbia wrote:


Why the fuck does it matter to you?

On February 16 2015 12:21 Superbia wrote:


You are leaning scum on me. How does this progress your read?

On February 16 2015 12:48 LightningStrike wrote:
But I still got a slight meta scum read on you it just people were calling you town instead other than Breshke and Rayn who agreed with me.

On February 16 2015 12:50 Superbia wrote:


I dislike Rayn and I kind of dislike Breshke atm. Trenderino?

On February 16 2015 22:44 Half the Sky wrote:


Catching up, though I'm going to be stuck in meetings at work mostly all day. Skimming through, looks like I'm going to be also doing some filter diving as well given how EoD went.

LS apparently in this game there is, like I said before 17-person games could def have more, 13 prob only just one. Of course now that Lian's flipped now I know there's definitely two.

On February 16 2015 23:09 KelsierSC wrote:
LS I'm just going through your filter and I was hoping you could clarify some things for me.

Essentially you are pretty happy to jump onto the BH vote quite early on, as indicated I believe this is what the mafia would do. You make a few comments like this



So you are disagreeing with Eden on a read here.
Yes because I had played with Superbia before and so had you in Campus when we were both town and he was Mafia.


Then you ask rsoultin, who I believe you had as town, for their opinion on Eden. I don't know if you followed up on this.
I was just asking her opinion on Eden because she had played with Eden before and so did I but I had played with him 1 more game than her and I don't think I did follow up much on it because of the stuff going on esp with fighting with my parents which was dumb of me to do T_T
My impression is you are unsure of Eden and have a slight scum lean on him. Perhaps I am incorrect.
I felt he was slight town but playing a different play style and thought he could be a role because of this.
However around the counter claim this is your post



Why are you so sure that Eden is the real JK at this point?
Because Mafia wouldn't CC at all like Eden did in my mind due to the fact it was still several hours before deadline when it happened.
Also I don't really see you calling BH mafia at any point before this so you seem rather unconcerned by this eden claim.
Well it just my limited experience with how people counterclaim but didn't help you counter claimed my Cop claim in Campus and got me lynched

On February 16 2015 23:12 KelsierSC wrote:


I also think this is quite a late justification to just sheep onto another townie. You don't really have any push to lynch someone you just kind of go along with the vote that gets a town lynched.

On February 16 2015 23:24 KelsierSC wrote:
Can you tell me what made you think that Eden was a role then? Also if you had a feeling he was town why did you decide to ask rsoultin about him?

As for the second point I just felt you sheeped the wagon that got a townie lynched without any real input of your own. Who were you scum reading at that point?

On February 16 2015 23:26 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not sure how the campus game helps your point because in that scenario a VT counter claimed a power role. (which was fucking stupid I admit) so why couldn't you believe that eden could be VT. Or Perhaps he could have been a mafia goon going for a 1-1.

On February 16 2015 23:29 KelsierSC wrote:


ok but what made you think he was town then.
Can you give me some quotes on who's opinion you asked for this game.

On February 15 2015 00:00 LightningStrike wrote:
rsoultin why policy lynch the king of RNG?

On February 15 2015 00:06 LightningStrike wrote:

Ok don't say I didn;t offer you meta Also what you think of rsoultin atm?

On February 15 2015 11:34 LightningStrike wrote:
rsoultin what you think of Eden? Also I starting to like ritoky this game

On February 15 2015 23:24 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and saw Palmar's case on Rayn which is a okay case but I never played with Mafia!Rayn before so :|. Palmar other than Rayn who you think is Mafia?

On February 16 2015 01:30 LightningStrike wrote:
So what you think of Palmar rsoultin?

On February 16 2015 12:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Who you think is Mafia Eden aka TP or BH Superbia?

On February 15 2015 00:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Also rayn had you checked out HTS's games when she rolled Mafia? If I can link them to you if you want them since you calling her mafia.

On February 16 2015 23:34 KelsierSC wrote:


was he not acting like a nutball this game?

On February 17 2015 01:30 KelsierSC wrote:
alright i'm back, LS looking through your list of questions seems kind of disjointed to me. I'm not sure why you would ask someone an opinion about someone you read as town.

Like you ask people about rsoultin, and then you townread rsoultin so you asked her about eden, but you were townreading him already, then you like palmars case but then you ask rsoultin about palmar. At the end you don't really seem to have developed anything useful and you just like ask your town reads about other town reads.

You also don't develop a single strong scum read it seems to me and just kind of sheep along the town vote. I think your mafia.

On February 17 2015 04:44 Alakaslam wrote:

Ok

I am jail keeper

On February 17 2015 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Robik pick a filter for me to read pls, I'm bored.

On February 17 2015 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:

no only 2, blazinghand is mafia.

On February 17 2015 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because mafia would never CC in Eden's situation (there was not a real counter wagon) and Slam is not lying.

On February 17 2015 05:58 Town Puppy wrote:
LS, what alignment is Slam? Iirc you're supposed to be good at reading him or something. I'm just gonna sheep you

On February 17 2015 06:11 Half the Sky wrote:


You're saying he's more passive as town than scum? He's talking a lot about his scumreads, but I don't know if he's not engaging his scumreads because he's unable to.

Last I recall his four scumreads were Lian, Breshke, myself and Rayn and none of us are in the US.

On February 17 2015 06:30 Half the Sky wrote:
Tried to meta Breshke from his NYE party game and Student IV. He seemed a bit too passive, and I was tempted to ignore him at first, since he had afked a bit this weekend, but once I metaed him I'm pretty sure he's mafia too.

LS, if you have any thoughts on my reads since you were in both those games, just shout.

In SMIV, he was pretty active and changed his votes a few times over the day. Also a bit more verbose than he is in this game or in NYE. In NYE, he had 1-2 scum reads very close to EoD, but didn't have any strong ones through most of the day from what I could tell. Here I am seeing some parallels to NYE, much of the same stuff with his reads. So he is likely scum.

I don't see the same types of (bold/confrontational) reads I saw in SMIV. So scum on him.

On February 17 2015 06:58 Palmar wrote:


It's official. I am stuck in some kind of an eternal purgatory where no one will be sure I'm town. Ever.

On February 17 2015 07:13 IAmRobik wrote:

LYNCH LS TOMORROW. DO NOT FUCKIGN QUESTION IT. JUST DO IT. I MAY NOT BE AROUND, BUT YOU HAVE ONE FUCKING MISSION AND THAT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PERSON DOES NOT SURVIVE TIL TOMORROW. I MAY OR MAY NOT EXPLAIN WHY IN POSTGAME, BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO TRUST THAT THIS READ IS ACCURATE. PALMAR -- IT'S KINDA LIKE THE READ I GAVE ON YOU IN HEAVYWEIGHT. PLEASE JUST FAITH.

On February 17 2015 08:05 IAmRobik wrote:

Trust.

On February 17 2015 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am mafia. goodnight. so kill me.
i am also the SK and i am shooting
ritoky.
another good night.

cya. <3
i am sad Palmar. For once play with me. maybe next game.

On February 17 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

my affiliation is scumske. i crumbed in this psot:

L T N Z = "lost the night zee?" = T N = third nemesis = scumske

easy.

On February 17 2015 08:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

bcz the sk too stronk.

On February 17 2015 08:41 Fecalfeast wrote:

I know why it's scummy!

On February 17 2015 08:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:

yeah well he is right. you're scum and i am not so i can't scumread him sorry.

On February 17 2015 09:11 Palmar wrote:

Really?

On February 17 2015 09:17 rsoultin wrote:


Lol, EoD just ended in my other game. Whatcha wanna talk about, LS? xP

Not Slam and Rayn claiming weirdness, I hope

On February 17 2015 09:22 KelsierSC wrote:


No I'm just one of those town people that hasn't stuck his face in a barrel of autism

On February 17 2015 09:24 rsoultin wrote:


ritoky and Robik I've liked this game and KSC I'm having trouble getting a read on. Superbia's kind of obv town, so not sure why you're asking about him at all. But people calling you mafia is normal, LS lol

I'd be more concerned if someone like HtS was doing it.

On February 17 2015 09:28 rsoultin wrote:


Yes, LS. I haven't shared cause I don't know that you want it to be public knowledge. But I do understand.

On February 17 2015 09:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
what is your read on him?

On February 17 2015 09:53 Half the Sky wrote:


I've never played a game with him when he's scum. From what Koshi said in an obs QT, he knows how to survive but he won't particularly drive the mafia agenda.

On February 17 2015 09:22 KelsierSC wrote:


No I'm just one of those town people that hasn't stuck his face in a barrel of autism

On February 18 2015 01:34 Half the Sky wrote:


I know she said she was filter diving him last she posted, but she's also at work...6h behind me puts her at 10:30am, so she might not be back for awhile.

On February 18 2015 03:22 IAmRobik wrote:
So there's a town vigi who didn't listen to my TR on kelsier and shot him. That's fucking brilliant. Please out yoruself now so that I can mislynch you before you cause any more damage

On February 18 2015 06:18 Fecalfeast wrote:

I thought I was scum why are you trying to get me to townread you?

On February 18 2015 06:52 Damdred wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong on rit. I'll have to think on that.

Here's the thing ff if you aren't calling me scum than what are you saying exactly? What was the point of that with no conclusion unless you are just trying to give a semblance of scum hunting?

ls is worrying me now also. He asked me a question and didn't follow up oj ot thoughts?

On February 18 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:

To be honest stray voting is much less indicative when he simply wasn't around. I did the same and I'm not mafia, I just wasn't there for the last 12 hours-ish of the day or so.

I'm still undecided on rayn. He kinda sounded like town maybe tonight, but maybe I'm just being owned by the fact he called me town and wanted me protected. I'm a sucker for people calling me town.

On February 18 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote:
Doesn't matter ls I'm used to you answering me back before I have to say something, why you do this to me.

Idk if you are bad or not palmar. It doesn't matter if I think someone you tr could be scum that's like dumb the two aren't dirrectly connected. I think you look fine RS said something that tickles me in a bad way.

FF tickles me badly right now. Ls bothers me.

On February 18 2015 07:08 Palmar wrote:

I have no idea what you're saying LS.

On February 18 2015 08:06 rsoultin wrote:


lol, i'm having similar problems with HtS. Her individual posts make me gah for lack of sense, but then the cases she's building seem to incorporate a lot of work for scum. Of course scum can do that, too, and I've seen players like HF and Trfel take a stab at it, but my feel is that's not something a scum HtS would do

On February 18 2015 08:14 rsoultin wrote:


Lol, yeah, she jumped on an inconsistency like a bat out of hell, I remember ^^ I actually was scumreading you and it still gave me pause because of how out-of-character it was.

On February 18 2015 08:39 Blazinghand wrote:


I think we should probably lynch rayn tomorrow if he hasn't caught scum. He's probably scum for being ineffective.

On February 18 2015 08:42 Blazinghand wrote:


Oh come ON. He's not trying to catch scum! He doesn't have a real case and he's voting me but he clearly doesn't care about lynching me because he's not hanging out and pushing me. Look, if VA REALLY thought he had a solid meta read on me, why isn't he like, making quotes and writing a case and shit? If this is REaLLY my town meta, why doesn't he just bust out a quick comparison adn be like "look guys, look at these posts, they're teh same. And here he is when he's town, its' totally different". When people ignore him or disagree with him, why isn't there followup? Why is he posting pictures of luigi instead of sayign "look, guys, here's the evidence, here's the reasoning behind my mindset?"

The dude claims to have a super solid scumread on me, and town thinks I'm almost mod-confirmed. if I had a scumread, a super solid scumread on someone who town thought was modconfirmed, I'd be LITERALLY figuratively shitting myself getting all up in peopel's business to prove them WRONG.

There's no follow up because he doesn't care. He just wants to park his vote somewhere useless and look like "useless town VA" who would never be shot and live until lylo and FUCK us. Well I'm not gonna get FUCKEd.

On February 18 2015 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote:

If I flip town, promise me you will change your signature to "League of Legends is for noobs, also FecalFeast is the best mafia player ever" for a week.

On February 18 2015 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:

On you're right, clearly the proof that VA is scum means we should not lynch him, I was confused about how mafia works, I thought for some reason we were supposed to lynch scum, oops my mistake

On February 18 2015 08:47 rsoultin wrote:


I was earlier, but honestly, I like his response on my JKs question, which was the main part that was bugging me lol. HtS' point on him isn't bad? But it's FF xP I always want to lynch him, even when he has a green check, and there were a couple things he said early game that I thought were townie.

On February 18 2015 08:52 rsoultin wrote:


Convince me he's scum, LS xP

On February 18 2015 00:44 Half the Sky wrote:
The case against Fecalfeast, Part 2

I know I didn't label part 1, but Part 1 stems from the manner in which FF illogically jumped on his conclusion to scumread me (page 4 of FF filter, page 42 of thread)

I later called him out on page 48 of thread for not naming who he was sheeping when he admitted he was sheeping someone's read on me. Multiple people were scumreading me at that time (quote from above is hidden below).



Now Fecalfeast has additional problem, and that is the way he looks at my reads on Rayn.

I made my original post on Rayn on page 41 (5th post down).

This was Fecalfeast's intial reaction (page 3 of his filter, page 41 of thread).



Now fast forward to last night when Fecalfeast looks at my read on Rayn. From page 7 of his filter (page 105 of the thread).



NOTE THAT THIS IS THE EXACT SAME QUOTE FROM PAGE 41.

Then immediately in response to Ritoky he says that my post - THE SAME POST FROM PAGE 41 THAT HE LIKED and THE SAME THING HE QUOTES IN PAGE 105 - is now repetitive and boring.



So which is it, Fecalfeast? You liked that post when I first made it on page 41 and now you think it's repetitive and boring on page 105.

This coupled with the way his reads jumped on me, not naming a sheep target when I asked him for how he jumped to his conclusion on me, shows that he's finding absolutely rubbish reasons to scumread me and this latest inconsistency shows how badly he's overreaching.

When you combine this with overall the rest of his play:

- cited lack of motivation somewhere in his filter
- the discomfort that he showed at the very beginning of the game (and confirmed town Lian, myself and someone else went after him for it)
- and NOW going after LightningStrike (and I know FF has played with LS at least a few times now to know his style) who he should know is often misread for scum

Fecalfeast is MOST CERTAINLY SCUM...

LYNCH
HIM
WITH
FIRE
PLEASE.

##vote Fecalfeast

On February 18 2015 06:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Good evening everyone!

I see Fecalfeast is trying hard to not be tonight's lynch.

Guess what?

I have even more evidence that he is scum. He wants to push LS now?

Part 3 anyone? Can we get an order of baby seals on the side there Fecalfeast?

The Case Against Fecalfeast, Part 3

Glanced again at his filter. Earlier D1, he townread LightningStrike.



AGAIN HE STARTS WITH A TOWNREAD ON LIGHTNING STRIKE.



Also the above is problematic. He makes no conclusion from this post, also he doesn't take into account why LS changed his read. THERE WAS NEW EVIDENCE and that was the counterclaim. AND HE SAID HE BELIEVED THE COUNTERCLAIM. LS almost ALWAYS explains his reasoning for a change in vote.



To me this appears he's trying to take advantage of a townie's inaccurate read on LS to get him out. Again, this maintains the point that he's catering to thread sentiment.

There is ONE MASSIVE DIFFERENCE between the way Kelsier is going about it and the way FF is going about:
The former, a confirmed town is actually interrogating and doing the work prior, and the latter is making posts and drawing it out of context.

Plenty of holes in his case against LS. Which goes back to my anti-easy lynch argument.

First point on LS's vote against Superbia. How in the bloody hell do you say that read is forced?!?!?!?



YOU KNOW HE USES META IN NEARLY EVERY ARGUMENT HE MAKES AGAINST PEOPLE. GOOD LORD. That was a key point I made against you in my case, and this only reinforces that.

Next 2 points on townreads AGAIN are ALL BASED ON META. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS.

And your last point on LightningStrike's reaction to JKs is TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.



I scumread ANYONE who takes ANYBODY out of context. How did you know he was upset? I see nowhere in your filter for what I can find that you've asked him or confirmed with him or tried to trap him if this was a genuine scumread.

Finally Superbia challenges you on meta reading him.



THIS IS A COP OUT.

Conclusion/TLDR Version
1 You came with a scumread on him out of seemingly nowhere
2 The points against him disregard his normal scumhunting methods. You have 6-7 votes against you and you won't even look at disputing meta reads, which is the biggest point of contention on you.
3 Unlike Kelsier, you aren't pushing/interrogating him to find the information needed from the points you do conclude.
4 You are taking his posts out of context.
5 You're looking for the easy way out here, an easy mislynch as others are scumreading him out of ignorance of his normal play. Rasputin already distinguished between those that played with him and those that did not.

LYNCH
FECALFEAST
WITH
FIRE
TONIGHT

And Fecalfeast, I don't have a problem with you scumreading me. RTFT. I told Rasputin what I'll tell you - I have no problem THAT people are scumreading me. I focus on the WHY, end of.

I've put in MORE than the amount of necessary work to bury you. You want to accuse me of OMGUS?

Now you can't. Because my points are also against you scumreading LS.

So it's absolute rubbish you think I'm going for the easy mislynch. You aren't even defending yourself against my case FFS.

On February 18 2015 09:11 IAmRobik wrote:
the whole thing feels so forced if FF is mafia LS prolly with him anyway.

Can we just lynch LS?

On February 18 2015 09:14 rsoultin wrote:
I have a pretty good track record (not perfect, mind you) track record on reading LS. Trust me? He's not scum this game.

On February 18 2015 09:33 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm going to drop a huge bomb that everyone already knows, or if they don't know, now they know......

HALF THE SKY IS:

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 18 2015 09:45 IAmRobik wrote:

yeah, but they're not doing it for the right reason. And I literally just spent a good 7 minutes skimming a scum game of her and 2 town games of hers and then reading her posts this game to come to that conclusion. I have a really solid tell on her

On February 18 2015 21:36 rsoultin wrote:


I love how you can only half-read, rayn. I was voting for FF originally after reading HtS' case and doing my own filter-dive, and part of my reluctance is he always looks kinda scummy to me. 10 pages of filter, though.

and lol @ you and VA being town.

Even if you were town, how could you possibly know that VA was town, with that shit filter of his? Like, your biggest argument is he has a random lynch target he's not pushing? If there's a reason I should think that makes him town, please enlighten me, cause we look at that and come to opposite conclusions.

On February 18 2015 21:58 rsoultin wrote:


Was he playing just like this, LS? Like he couldn't be bothered to give a shit even though he apparently had a strong scumread?

On February 18 2015 23:00 Half the Sky wrote:
I also see BH finally has something other than RNG in making an actual scum argument against VA, so I'm going to check that out as well as a game in which VA actually was scum. He has thrown out nonsensical BS before as town so if I can highlight the key differences in a scum VA game this could go a long way.

Also Rasputin, I conceded that LS was town way earlier than you are stating in your post. That was pretty darn early in the day I questioned LS on the Robik read, and LS maintains he's had the adequate exposure to FF though it might help if you LS, could give a specific rundown of the games. I know one of them was Carol which was a clusterfuck for all of us going into our first large normal and evaluating gameplay, but highlighting the mini normals should help.

Still that wasn't even my biggest issue with him.

On February 09 2015 06:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
Liancourt is scum

list post with 1000 townreads early D1 and all he comments on is the read on him


Dumb reason to townread someone and also his first presented read of the game. A tingly feeling


So he doesn't have an opinion of his own on keir? That's weird because in his NEXT POST HE SAYS THIS:


"You are current[sic] bleeding mafia" yet no vote or any real pressure to follow up a statement like that.


I think I have a different definition of wagon but, what? Assuming you mean the two players who had 2 votes at the time of this post, what have you done to prove this? You haven't said one word about gobbledydook at this point and you came to the conclusion that keir is 'bleeding mafia' and have yet to vote. If you like both wagons why are you not on either?



dumb townread followed up by more dumb townpoints which have been discussed already.

Liancourt is just following thread discussion without bringing anything new to the table. He even admits to not having an opinion on keir, then follows it up with a definitive sounding read which he never acts upon or follows up. Then going on to say he likes the gobbledydook 'wagon' after literally not mentioning the guy at all? Mafia

##vote liancourt

On February 17 2015 17:03 Fecalfeast wrote:


This is a really dumb case and I'm not sure I've seen LS actually vote that early ina day before based on just an opening post. Almost looks forced.



This isn't alignment indicative but, lol linking people games of other people without any input.


I really hate this post. First off, he gives a bogus townread to eden/TP based on gif usage. Second, after he does what KSC asked him, he tacks on an irrelevant quote as if he was looking for posts in his filter to help him look towny


The way this is worded makes me unhappy. If you already think slam is mafia for meta reasons and have evidence, why not post it? If you don't have meta evidence yet, why are you already saying it'll be a mafia case?

BONUS CONSPIRACY THEORY

This reaction looks genuine almost. As in, LS knows alaka isn't mafia and when he claims his first reaction instead of "LOL you are mafia" is "WTF 3 JKs??" as if he was upset about the balance.

On February 19 2015 03:22 Blazinghand wrote:
If it makes you feel any better, rayn, your claims of IRL stuff have zero impact one way or the other on me.

On February 19 2015 06:39 IAmRobik wrote:

So you're giving up on pushing FF in favor of lynching a person who more people wnt to ylnch who you haven't made a case for until people started expressing desire to lynch him. That sounds a bit opportunistic, doesn't it?

On February 19 2015 06:43 LightningStrike wrote:

It was Damdred who really made the big case on Rayn being Mafia not HTS lol.....

On February 19 2015 06:45 Blazinghand wrote:


ONCE AND FOR ALL HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED N1

RB CLAIMS:
PALMAR CLAIMS HE WAS RBED
BLAZINGHAND CLAIMS HE WAS RBED

FLIPS:
EDEN WAS FLIPPED
KSC GOT SHOT AND FLIPPED TOO

SHOT CLAIMS:
SUPERBIA CLAIMS HE WAS SHOT AND IS A VETERAN


What probably happened:

Mafia RBer RBed BH
Mafia Nk NKed Eden
Eden JKed Palmar
Someone (Mafia vig, maybe) shot Superbia
SK shot the other dude who got shot (poossibly this and the amfia vig action are reversed)


WE ARE NOW DONE BEING CONFUSED ABOUT N1

On February 19 2015 08:39 Damdred wrote:
All of rayns lists don't have palmar now he has a red check. Doesn't compute and he leaves