VII Titanic Mini Mafia: I Have a Cunning Plan...

On February 12 2015 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

in the games have been in 0%.
but itäs gonna be a pleasure to play with you! ^^

On February 12 2015 10:32 rsoultin wrote:
lol, you really stick to the RNG scumread, BH, or is it just a place to start at?

On February 12 2015 10:40 rsoultin wrote:


that seems a little wild, lol, but if it works for you ^^

On February 12 2015 11:10 rsoultin wrote:


just to see how that player reacts under pressure, and how everyone else reacts?

On February 12 2015 11:22 rsoultin wrote:


lol, not to quibble, BH, but technically anyone voted, RNG or not, has a 30% chance of being scum minus outside factors xP not being subject to biases and rivalries and stuff I good, i'll admit, but it also doesn't incorporate any valid forms of analysis either, yeah?

I've caught scum day 1 and I'm not that good lol. I think most players have.

On February 12 2015 11:41 Damdred wrote:
I remember in ffl rng landed on scum and we lynched scum d1....

For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.

The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-14 by taking that number mod 14. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 13 mod 14 = 13. 14 mod 14 = 0. 18 mod 14 = 4. 19 mod 14 = 5. and so on.

Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 14. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST.

On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:


So Blazinghand, D1 meta for Vayne is that he does jack all. We're less than 2h into the game. Further, you're objectively scumreading him for doing jack all, when it's his known meta?

I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.

On February 14 2015 15:49 liancourt wrote:
who we lynching today?

On February 14 2015 15:54 Half the Sky wrote:


BH, come on. Yes that was a reason, no I am not denying he got RNGed. But you stated another reason to objectively scumread him. My criticism is of the bolded:



I am disputing your OTHER objective reason for scumreading him.

On February 14 2015 17:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Blazinghand, let's be honest:
Are you forging that read on vayne? The one besides rng?

On February 14 2015 18:29 Superbia wrote:
Yo BH.

Did you have your target ready before your posted your RNG post?

On February 14 2015 18:38 Superbia wrote:
The fact that I'm asking underlines my shock at you being able to follow up your RNG explanation post with:

- Generating a random number.
- Moduling this number.
- Translating the number to a name on your list.
- Making a follow up post.

In a minute.

On February 14 2015 18:43 Superbia wrote:
I'm not doubting your math. I'm doubting the genuineness behind the RNG.

On February 14 2015 18:44 Superbia wrote:
Why did you feel the need to split up the explanation post and the post with the actual RNG?

On February 14 2015 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yes. Not 100% but more than likely.
I am lynching that anyways. I don't see a reason for claiming as town because your job is to look townie ny your actions, something that is not expected from mafia. But townies do not fear getting cop checked. Because cops are supposed to check scummy playwers and you should not think youare scummy as town.

The claim represents fear of being viewed as mafia, which... See above.

On February 14 2015 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yes. Not 100% but more than likely.
I am lynching that anyways. I don't see a reason for claiming as town because your job is to look townie ny your actions, something that is not expected from mafia. But townies do not fear getting cop checked. Because cops are supposed to check scummy playwers and you should not think youare scummy as town.

The claim represents fear of being viewed as mafia, which... See above.

On February 14 2015 20:24 Palmar wrote:
yeah I was confused by the miller returns

On February 14 2015 20:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:

The bolded is what i am saying.

On February 14 2015 20:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:

No chance i am voting for VA, he is town.

On February 14 2015 20:30 Blazinghand wrote:


Didn't you see the part where I RNGed him? He must be scum, RNG says so and it's right 100% of the time, 30% of the time in this setup.

On February 14 2015 20:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Where do you get the 30%?
There is 4 scum.

On March 12 2014 17:57 Palmar wrote:
A little point about this game:

It really, really proves the value of NOT GETTING LYNCHED as town. For some reason staying alive, just like sheeping, is a pretty devalued skill in mafia. Everyone wants to focus on amazing reads and shit, and while those are great, the main job of any townie can simply be to not get lynched. If townies don't get lynched town wins the game by default.

On February 03 2015 00:23 Palmar wrote:

While I'm on the topic of underrated skillsets, HTS has an amazing ability look town when she is. She is just so painfully obviously town that it makes the game so much easier.

Like for some reason everyone seems to think the be-all end-all townplayer skill in mafia is to figure out who is mafia, when in reality it's only one of half a dozen or so very important skills that can't exist without each other.

The ability to convince, the ability to be townread, the ability to sheep when needed, the ability to control atmosphere and focus discussion etc etc etc.

This game was actually a very good example of how unimportant actually figuring out who the mafia is can be. If you polled people in this game, more than half of them would put me in the bottom half for performance as town here. But no one was more right on the mafia than I was this game. I literally tried to kill 3 people day 1 and those were the mafia. However:

I was not useful for direction/focus/atmosphere
I couldn't convince anyone to follow me
Half the players thought I was mafia.

I agree! I didn't play this game well at all. And of the two things I did right, only one of them was actually really good, and it wasn't the fact that I went after the entire mafia team. In the end my willingness to sheep Damdred's case and thus make a good judgement call is something I'm far more happy about than being right.

So yeah, don't sleep on players even if they are wrong sometimes. The #1 priority of any town player is to not get lynched.

On February 15 2015 09:29 LightningStrike wrote:

Are you saying BH is Mafia by meta?

On February 15 2015 10:19 rsoultin wrote:
Also:

##unvote

BH, how does sheeping being a skill translate to sheeping you being a skill?

On February 15 2015 10:53 Town Puppy wrote:

Yeah, but I made up for it with a case that is qualitatively better than "random vote that I push like it isn't one."

On February 15 2015 10:51 prplhz wrote:
@BlazingHand

If you have the only good case in the thread, isn't it really suspicious that people like raynpelikoneet and Palmar aren't paying much attention to it? What do you make of that?

On February 16 2015 02:05 rsoultin wrote:


Does your preference for VA have anything to do with his play at all, BH?

On February 16 2015 03:13 Half the Sky wrote:
Mostly caught up.

I'm definitely willing to lynch Rayn at this point, possibly FF depending on his response to my latest post.

I'm not particularly impressed with BH right now suggesting to stick to his RNG method. I can understand if he was using PoE in conjunction or some other reason to scumread VA, but you have at least a few people townreading VA, and unless I missed it, BH hasn't given any reads until just recently (Palmar and implying on Rayn), which also bugs me, I mean if he were that married to his RNG vote, he could have gotten reads off people sheeping or not sheeping his vote. I mean he really hasn't tried to do anything with it and now I think we're I think less than 12h from lynch.

On February 16 2015 03:15 Half the Sky wrote:


BH, that's the same thing you've said before. You don't seem to be observing how this game is changing.
If I had to vote this very instant, I'd vote Rayn.

On February 16 2015 03:33 Half the Sky wrote:


BH, I was scumreading Rayn before Palmar posted his case, but Palmar's case makes it more likely.

I understand why you are arguing in favour of RNG, but do you have anything on top of this? Do you have a substantial (non-RNG) reason to be reading VA scum. What if your RNG vote had landed on a player that everyone was later scumreading for reasons unrelated to RNG?

This is what I don't understand. 30% scumlynch also means that there's still a 70% chance we still lynch town. I am not seeing a way for you to narrow the pool to further increase those odds.

On February 15 2015 09:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
im just opening a discussion with a particular person that was in that game on what he thinks about it

On February 16 2015 03:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I made a case on prplhz and BH in my big post that I would urge people to go and read and give their thoughts on. Especially my case on prpl.

also prp my question still remains unanswered. If my thread entry was so "terrible" why did you let it slide for so long and only come at me when other people started calling me scum.

On February 16 2015 03:45 KelsierSC wrote:


luckily we have a filter system so you can go and look at what I wrote previously

On February 16 2015 03:46 rsoultin wrote:


Already have ^^ You're boring me.

That thread you linked for BH? Clearly not the same situation, as he was scumreading you for things other than just the RNG. Got anything better?

On February 16 2015 03:51 rsoultin wrote:


This point against BH I really like, though, KSC. It caught my attention when he first posted about wagon consolidation, too.

On February 16 2015 03:55 KelsierSC wrote:


The case is you have these long forced posts where you hide behind mechanics. You try and traffic cop this game with posts like "hey guys we need to consolidate" but at no point have you put any effort in to figuring out the game.

you have also now tried to discredit my case on you from saying "oh you mad a case on meafter a case on VA" the case about VA was my first opening read based on his reaction, then basically a day later I made a case on you that is more developed after I read the game thoroughly.

You have now also tried to discredit Robik with his "oh he is salty that I banned him" which seems kind of pathetic from you.

On February 16 2015 03:56 IAmRobik wrote:

you rolled mafia this game. not my fault

On February 16 2015 03:58 Half the Sky wrote:


I see what you're getting at here, but what are your thoughts on the meta read on him? Both of you are relative vets, somewhere along the way you had have to have come across playing him.

D1, he's pretty useless in general. I pushed him for the exact same reasons in NYE, got him lynched, he flipped town. He was also pretty useless in Void until I flipped scum D2. Only when something happens, it appears he'll do something as town. I mean if you want to policy lynch him, that's fine. But this goes back to my point that you aren't going further than RNG here.

On February 16 2015 03:58 IAmRobik wrote:
I voted you like 40 pages back

##vote: blazinghand

On February 16 2015 04:07 Half the Sky wrote:


And again, you are telling me jack all about VA besides RNG or even why the meta is wrong.

I'm going to add BH to my lovely list of lynchables.

On February 16 2015 04:13 Half the Sky wrote:


You're claiming 10h before EoD with the wagons still forming?
I'd think you'd know better...

On February 16 2015 04:23 Half the Sky wrote:
Not only don't I follow the crumb, but I can't follow why you'd claim with this much time to go. You have plenty of time to read the game and propose an alternate target. You brought up Palmar and Rayn in a post before. Claiming an hour before lynch, sure. But 10 hours?

I can see a new player doing this but you?

On February 16 2015 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, vinyl records? Yes, I am very much too young for those xP

What do you think about VA coming back into the thread just to vote you? Seriously, forget the RNG for right now; I just want an honest answer.

On February 16 2015 04:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
isnt the jailkeeper lord percy a mafia role?

On February 16 2015 04:34 KelsierSC wrote:
isn't it just terrible to claim here ?

On February 16 2015 04:39 KelsierSC wrote:
can you explain your reasons

On February 16 2015 07:18 IAmRobik wrote:
I wish Eden was townier so I could more easily believe his claim. I mean, I love me some BH lynch, but why couldn't it be from someone townier than eden

On February 16 2015 07:20 liancourt wrote:
whats happening

On February 16 2015 07:22 ritoky wrote:
now that BH made the list of people I am voting with, I don't like where my vote is.

maybe I should just sheep my two town reads.

also BH you're good at maffz, can you plug the #'s into the CHUPAZITRON 40000 and tell me the odds of rolling 2 JKs?

On February 16 2015 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Why would eden go for a 1 for 1 trade there

On February 16 2015 07:28 IAmRobik wrote:

cause he doesn't like rolling mafia

On February 16 2015 07:30 KelsierSC wrote:
If you weren't under any pressure then why did you claim?
There was a lot of pressure on you as far as I'm aware.

On February 16 2015 07:33 KelsierSC wrote:
Yeh I read the thread , I was there I think there was a lot of pressure on you.

If it isn't a super useful time to claim then I'm confused why you do it? Doesn't matter because you are mafia

On February 16 2015 07:37 Breshke wrote:
if you flip JK of course ill be lynching eden it goes without saying. A VT claim from him after you flip would be fucking retarded.



Are you making this up? I've played mafia with eden and he didn't seem too unhappy about it.

On February 16 2015 07:40 KelsierSC wrote:


Obviously tp gets lynched if your town. But you are not town so it is irrelevant.

On February 16 2015 07:41 LightningStrike wrote:
If you flip JK BH I will put the puppy in the pound (Lynching him).
Ritoky why not go for the good lynch today?

On February 16 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote:
BH you say we are bad because we don't realize this is your town game but wouldn't you push your RNG lynch no matter your alignment. What makes THIS your town game?

On February 16 2015 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:


I don't RNG as scum.

On February 16 2015 07:49 liancourt wrote:


any chance of 2 jks? there can be multiple millers why not 2 jks?

On February 16 2015 07:56 Breshke wrote:


Some people say pressure, BH says he always claims when he is blue

On February 16 2015 07:55 ritoky wrote:


this kinda assumes a constructed setup vs rng setup. could just be the case where town gets x town roles. rng which roles-> 1 = x, 2=y, 3=z, 4=a, 5=b; and rolled a # multiple times.

setup wifom, the wifomyest kind of wifom

On February 16 2015 07:59 liancourt wrote:


that's a very elaborate crumb there

On February 16 2015 08:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
If anyone actually thinks BH is town, read this game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/427569-golden-sun-the-broken-seal-mini-mafia

He is old partner and does literally the same exact thing he's done here. Fakes a role and makes up some absurd crumb and he almost gets away with it too here. I remember because we were lol'ing hard in scum QT.

On November 14 2012 07:44 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm the Jailkeeper. My crumb is in the post where I talk about my large penis and how it could work as a "pad" (link)-- for pad-lock, lock, locked up, jail, jailkeeper. Admittedly, role crumbs aren't much supporting evidence, but lynching a claimed blue D1 is amazingly bad play. It's possible there's no scum roleblocker which means my power can still be of use to us.

You all have plenty of time to unvote me and vote Z-B before the day ends.

On November 17 2013 04:29 Blazinghand wrote:
MYJ is a transposition of MJY. MJY is the initials of the famous bw player savior, so that night I saved Velinath

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260&currentpage=58#1150

beggar man is from John le Carre's Tinker Tailor soldier Spy. As the rhyme goes, tinker tailor soldier sailor and so on and the "beggar man" is the code name for a guy who did not turn out to be the mole, hence was innocent, so i'm crumbing a green check

you clearly don't even understand the level i crumb on

On February 16 2015 09:09 liancourt wrote:
I still don't understand why the real JK would CC when it means certain death for him.

On February 16 2015 09:41 IAmRobik wrote:
****I WANT TO MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR SO I'M TYPING IT IN CAPS LOCK AND SURROUNDED BY ASTERISKS*****

IF BOTH BH AND EDEN ARE TOWN, LIAN IS SCUM FOR HOW HE IS PLAYING THIS WHOLE FLIPPY FLOPPY SHIT

On February 16 2015 09:49 liancourt wrote:
its scum favored already with that SK anyway, why not 2 JKs lol

On February 16 2015 10:28 liancourt wrote:
I'm all for lynching someone besides BH and tp just to see who they claim to rb on day 2, but why me?

On February 16 2015 10:28 IAmRobik wrote:

The problem is if one of them IS mafia, then lian is probably town for his flip flop

On February 16 2015 11:21 liancourt wrote:
you know BH if you didn't make that post i would have continued to fight your battles. That post just looked desperate.

Desperate scum.

##unvote
##vote BH

On February 16 2015 11:28 IAmRobik wrote:
what do you wanna talk about BH?

On February 16 2015 11:30 IAmRobik wrote:
BH, if we lynch Eden today and he flips JK, should we lynch you tomorrow?

On February 16 2015 11:31 Town Puppy wrote:

Oh believe me. Call me Marshawn Lynch Im so thankful. Thankful you had the foresight to breadcrumb my role but not the foresight to breadcrumb a role that wasn't in the game. Thanks to your breadcrumb I got to lynch scum d1. I am SO THANKFUL!

On February 16 2015 11:32 IAmRobik wrote:

I really don't know what to think of Breshke.
I don't think Palmar case on Rayn is good because I don't think his flip flop was scummy, but Rayn's absence is scummy.
I was the one who proposed the Lian being scum if both of you are town, so you know my feelings on that. I really don't wanna read breshke right now though.

On February 16 2015 11:32 Town Puppy wrote:

You think there are two people named Lord Percy Percy in this game...?

Pretty sure that's bastard mod tier

On February 16 2015 11:33 Town Puppy wrote:
BH what is the name of your role?

On February 16 2015 11:34 IAmRobik wrote:
Eden sounds so fucking scummy. Every single one of his posts sounds so fucking fake. And his "oh what happened someone claimed? oh, omg bh claimed my role" puke. Also his participation this game has been whack as well. He should be mad that people are doubting him, but he doesn't seem that mad. He's still joking constantly and making sarcastic posts. I really think that he rolled mafia and wants out of the game. I'm sure that IRL circumstances are playing a part in this decision and I really think that he's scum. madofinadsoifnosdinfosidn

On February 16 2015 11:36 IAmRobik wrote:

Fecal.
And do you really think VA is scum or not?

On February 16 2015 11:36 Town Puppy wrote:

Lol you're next. You're in the background as always when you're mafia

On February 16 2015 11:37 Town Puppy wrote:

Sigh

I was vaguely hoping you misread. Oh well.

I think rso and Robik are mafia. Lian is probably town. Idk why people think he's mafia.

On February 16 2015 12:37 Superbia wrote:


Lord Percy Percy (Tim McInnerny) is the name given to a pair of related characters. (wiki)

Yup.

On February 16 2015 12:44 Town Puppy wrote:
Oh bull shit!

I was SO SURE
FUCK

On February 16 2015 12:46 Superbia wrote:
I'm still reading a little. I'll have my mafia team on paper before EoD.

On February 16 2015 12:47 Superbia wrote:
Can anyone point me to the liancourt thing? I feel like I might've read over it.

On February 16 2015 12:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

This being a Blackadder game is significant in relation to that dynamic.

That's all I can say.

On February 16 2015 12:49 Town Puppy wrote:

My claim never made sense from mafia. if you HADN'T figured it out that would've been a travesty.

##UNVOTE

On February 16 2015 12:52 Town Puppy wrote:
We're not lynching LightningStrike. I understand why he's being scumread but trust me on this please. He is the inspiration for my smurf name.

I would be ok with liancourt maybe. But I really think rsoultin is mafia. Notice how as soon as I called her mafia and pointed out that she wasn't being as detail-oriented about my claim as she had been earlier, she immediately decides I'm town, gives a really vague handwavey answer as to why, votes BH and then afk's. rso as town is far more intellectually curious than to peace out like that, she's far more uncertain than to just flip on a dime, and like I said, she's more detail-oriented than she was in evaluating my claim.

I think rso is the best pick.

##VOTE: rsoultin

I will consolidate with BH and friends to avoid either of us being lynched though.

On February 16 2015 12:53 Town Puppy wrote:

You were under pressure and folded way too fast son. It seemed pretty legit.

Although I will admit the breadcrumb was a mindfuck for me while I was working under the assumption you were scum

On February 16 2015 12:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I did double check Superbia's thing about Percy Percy and I can confirm what he said about them being a pair is true. So we got 2 blues claimed Day 1 hopefully they roleblock Mafia.

On February 16 2015 12:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

This being a Blackadder game is significant in relation to that dynamic.

That's all I can say.

On February 16 2015 07:50 rsoultin wrote:


I agree with this. Also, way too many people just going oh, okay, when TP/Eden's play has been questionable all game, lol.

##unvote
##vote: TownPuppy

On February 16 2015 10:58 rsoultin wrote:


I can definitely see a difference, just as I can see a difference between your play this game and your town play from Horn. (Granted, I think you're trying to be less spammy, but it's like night and day.) What I don't understand is why you CCd immediately if you're actually the JK. If you know that you know that you know that BH is lying because you're the JK, then why not reserve that so that you can still use your abilities later? It's not a good play as town and I'm struggling to understand why you would do it now ><

Like, if it were me, I'd target him as JK and see if that effected the night kills, lol.

On February 16 2015 11:08 rsoultin wrote:
Nah, lian's right, if mafia's going to CC (or claim in the first place) it's probably the goon doing it. Bugger -_- I still think it's the wrong play by TP, but I can see him thinking it's right.

##unvote
##vote: Blazinghand

On February 16 2015 12:57 Superbia wrote:


Honestly this would be on Sent. I'm sure the mafia QT is quite livid right now. I also disagree with the intervention, but will save that for post-game.

On February 16 2015 13:01 Town Puppy wrote:

Yeah that's pretty much it, specifically the last two.

On February 16 2015 13:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
I just saw ritoky's post about me being uninvested I'm here now and catching up I was really hungover I do plan on playing for reals, I'm not even playing 2 games anymore

On February 16 2015 12:59 Superbia wrote:
It was sent who saved town. Not me. I simply investigated his out-of-nowhere post. I'm town for being town and providing you with the list of mafia (coming soon, promise!). Not for googling "Lord Percy Percy".

Oh, who am I kidding. I'm a fucking hero.

On February 16 2015 13:00 LightningStrike wrote:
Answering this question before going to bed. Breshke I know you didn't call him Mafia for Meta reason I said you read him as Mafia and I still think he is possible Mafia but looks a tiny bit better. It will most likely be clear after the flip.

On February 16 2015 12:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

This being a Blackadder game is significant in relation to that dynamic.

That's all I can say.

On February 16 2015 12:37 Superbia wrote:


Lord Percy Percy (Tim McInnerny) is the name given to a pair of related characters. (wiki)

Yup.

On February 16 2015 13:12 Town Puppy wrote:

I mean, flip side here, scum wouldn't know we're both JKs. They wouldn't know WHAT the fuck to do. NO ONE should know wtf to do. Given that, we have two different reactions:

(1) One person ostensibly tried to see both sides of the argument and ended up siding with both players at some point before settling in on me.
(2) The other person defaulted to the previous suspicion that person had on one of the two players and then abruptly switched to the other player after it became clear the initially-suspected player probably wasn't being lynched.

I think it's more likely that the mafia is (2) here. You don't actually get town credit from being right about both people being JK if you let them both get lynched. In fact, nothing about this situation gets you town credit unless you're the guy to figure out that both people are JK. (SHOUTS TO SUPERFRIEND, ALSO GET DUNKED I KNEW YOU WERE TOWN) What you do end up getting is a huge pile of shit during the day after the first flip, because you waffled on both and ended up on the guy who flipped JK. It's far better for mafia to just ride the wave toward whichever JK is getting lynched, then when they flip town riding the other one - and especially if, as in (2)'s case, the other one who ends up being "confirmed scum" is conveniently the one you already suspected.

No, rso is far more likely to be mafia out of the two in my view. As previously noted I will gladly vote either to save you, but our wagon should be rso.

On February 16 2015 13:19 Town Puppy wrote:

If she felt like thread sentiment were moving away from me being mafia, and she felt like I might be onto her, then yes, she would have reason to switch. She can just as easily say "oh man, I shouldn't have doubted myself on Eden" - in fact I think this might be more convincing, because then when I also flip town, her confusion looks entirely justified (whereas her attempt to look certain I would flip mafia to get towncred would blow up once I flipped town).

On February 16 2015 13:21 liancourt wrote:
why are ppl voting me? it just looks like they are sheeping BH for no reason

On February 16 2015 13:25 Town Puppy wrote:
Fuck c'mon guys it's rso. I will post bricks of shit produced by my body if she is town

I'm in this awkward place where I want to fight for this lynch but I don't want to accidentally get BH killed.

Can everyone just sheep me instead pls?

On February 16 2015 13:37 Town Puppy wrote:
SWITCH that lian post was townie imo

On February 16 2015 13:40 liancourt wrote:


No you are skilled enough to this. You were creating discussion so that other ppl would n't leave the thread and get conversation going so that ppl were around and that they didn't just leave the vote on you and afk till deadline.

On February 16 2015 13:44 Superbia wrote:


STOP.

WHAT ARE YOU READS BESIDES BH.

On February 16 2015 13:45 liancourt wrote:


FF is scum but I'm not gonna get enough votes so I'm pusshing BH who is just obvious scum to me.

On February 16 2015 13:48 liancourt wrote:
Fucks sake I'm PR I even fucking breadcrumbed.

On February 16 2015 13:50 liancourt wrote:


because he is scum his reasons on me are bad and looked desperate as fuck what more do you need.

He managed to switch thread sentiment around and get a wagon on me which wasnt possible on TP

open ur eyes

On February 16 2015 13:51 Town Puppy wrote:
liancourt quote and explain your breadcrumb now if you want not to die

On February 16 2015 13:52 IAmRobik wrote:
THERE'S NO WAY HE WAITS UNTIL 10 MINUTES LEFT IN THE DAY TO CLAIM ESPECIALLY WHEN VOTED WERE FLIPPING TO HIM WAY BEFORE THIS. HE SHOULD HAVE STOPPED IT DEAD IN ITS TRACKS THEN, BUT HE DIDN'T. LIAM IS MAFIA

On February 16 2015 13:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
2 JKs and a cop?!!?!

On February 16 2015 13:53 Superbia wrote:
I'm not sure I believe this claim. I'd be willing to switch to RSO, maybe. =/ CC would be useful.

On February 16 2015 13:54 Fecalfeast wrote:

SOMEONE IS LYING HERE

On February 16 2015 13:54 Fecalfeast wrote:

Keep milking the mod thing and I'm gonna get upset

On February 16 2015 13:56 Town Puppy wrote:
ugh move onto rso you dumbasses

fuck

On February 16 2015 13:56 liancourt wrote:


you have wiggled out of a lynch because of mod intervention. Don't you use that and make it anything confirmed.

You are in no way confirmed

On February 16 2015 13:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
if one of the jks are scum and there is no second jk I'm gonna be really mad at the mods

On February 16 2015 13:57 Town Puppy wrote:
move to rso

On February 16 2015 13:59 Superbia wrote:
This doesn't feel like cop. Cop would be more upset. IDK.

On February 16 2015 13:59 liancourt wrote:
i'm miller so there

On February 16 2015 14:08 Town Puppy wrote:

this guy should probably get a warning for gamethrowing / not playing to wincon tbh

On February 17 2015 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:

yes. he is town or the game is invalid. you know this shit.

On February 17 2015 09:41 rsoultin wrote:


Good point :/ I tend to agree that even if he's not confirmed, though, it's very likely that he's town for it. Otherwise coulda just let the two JK thing play out and see them both dead.

On February 17 2015 10:21 Half the Sky wrote:


I generally have the expectation that someone with his experience level (especially) should be able to either give reads on other people or at least come up with some sort of other method in conjunction (like PoE) to further support why his RNG read was good if he was that serious about it. I made the point that when he kept offering a "30% scumlynch" I said that there was a 70% chance it was wrong. And he failed to do that. Finally when he claimed I didn't believe his claim largely because of the timing.

As a veteran I expected better from him. He didn't sound believable at that time.

On February 17 2015 12:04 rsoultin wrote:


How does this make sense? -_-

On February 17 2015 12:12 rsoultin wrote:


You're talking about potentially carrying him to MYLO/LYLO I assume? Yeah, I can definitely see wanting to prevent that absent strong scumreads. Rayn was pretty positive he was town, though, so I figured it was a meta thing of some sort?

On February 17 2015 12:19 prplhz wrote:

but it's stupid of you to push the idea that he's not town when he's extremely likely to be town.

On February 17 2015 13:48 Damdred wrote:
Well baby girl I'm here and I'm town so lets end this omgus on my slot.

Obviously I'm a hit behind but I'm going to start out reading some choice filters and sleep. I won't be all the way caught up till tommoeow obviously

On February 17 2015 14:01 Damdred wrote:
Bh you are being very helpful. Now is my slot generally scum read or town read? I haven't read brwshkes filter yet I'll do that after I have some of my own thoughts

On February 17 2015 17:43 Palmar wrote:
Morning. I Was roleblocked.

On February 18 2015 03:18 IAmRobik wrote:
i just finished page 106 and i'm baffled that you idiots are so dumb that you don't understand why vayne voted for bh.

BH CLAIMED TO JK SUPERBIA.
SUPERBIA CLAIMS TO HAVE TAKEN A BULLET.
THAT MEANS THAT ONE OR THE OTHER IS LYING

On February 17 2015 18:14 Blazinghand wrote:


That was probably Eden. I JKed Superbia but was RBed

On February 18 2015 05:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
wait so because I liked a post on first read and then after further inspection dislike the post, I am scum?

What am I missing here?

On February 18 2015 05:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Already done wtf has he not been playing this whole time and you're the only one scumreading him BH?

On February 18 2015 05:51 Superbia wrote:
Has LS been scum before in a game? If so, someone mind linking me?

On February 18 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:


Well, personally, I wouldn't CC if I was JK...it's why I was giving TP so much crap when he CCd xP

Like, I'm taking BH as town mostly on faith right now. Is he usually this useless? Talking about people playing on his level lol and here he is pushing VA again, apparently mostly for the lolz. It's not even the push that bugs me; it's the lack of any other sort of analysis going on.