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On February 20 2015 13:35 Half the Sky wrote: Additionally when Robik questioned me on why I was eager to switch my vote, I responded with consolidation. Again, note that I was the last person off Fecalfeast. I am intelligent enough to know when a vote loses traction. In my eyes it was going from scum to scum at that time. My cases on both should speak for with the conviction. You're still scumreading FF...do you think his wagon would have formed that fast if he was mafia? That's actually part of the reason that I think if he's scum, he's probably the SK. Also, what do you think of his participation so far Night 2? | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:27 Half the Sky wrote: "list-list" as in my list or Rasputin's? We have Ritoky and prplhz in common as scumreads if you mean the latter. I was asking for your list. Then I realized it was already on the list-list. | ||
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On February 20 2015 12:45 rsoultin wrote: Okay, so I'm dropping my tinfoil hat theory; there's just no reason for even a half-assed mod intervention to prevent scum from being lynched lol. @FF, reads list from towniest to scummiest: Blazinghand - Obv reasons, but he really did have a lot more input than I remembered after going back through his relatively lengthy filter. I even like that he's gotten off his KILL VA bandwagon, if for what I consider to be a pretty stupid case. Palmar - Sheer activity. The last time I saw a Palmar this invested, he was town, and I don't think he would have approached the Rayn lynch the way he did if he knew that Rayn was town. lightningstrike - I'm like an oracle when it comes to reading LS. Just accept it. And if you can't; just look at the games we've played together. There's an unfettered feel to how he's playing (and it's flat-out bullshit to say that he ever does meta cases/reads correctly...he often doesn't compare all the games available or give examples, though I wish he would if he's going to use meta) Half the Sky - Her cases may have been wrong, but the sheer amount of effort put into them, and the conviction with which she fought for them, makes me think it's coming from a townie source. My reservations are that she seems more aggressive than I remember, and I didn't like most of her early posting at all. In fact, most of her posts other than her cases are kinda meh for me. The cases/pushes win out, though. Superbia - Some good posting, but minimal. The vet claim strengthens the townlean almost to the point where I'd be confident to call him town. Yet I keep thinking back to Protoss where he was a town leader and we helped each other after Palmar was shot, and I'm not seeing that here. With all the towncred he's gained from that one google search and now a claim, he should be right in the mix, giving reads and giving townies someone to talk to they can be fairly confident of. Also not really buying BH's claim that only he is clever enough for a play like this xP Breshke/Damdred Waffling on Damdred. He came in strong with that case, but Breshke was basically a non-entity with almost nothing but townreads. I'm also not seeing a lot of that in-depth analysis that makes me go yay, town Damdred! To be fair, though, I have a habit of expecting too much from Damdred and just calling him scum whenever he seems to be doing illogical things. Another eureka moment half as good as that Eden case in Linux would have him skyrocketing into my firm town section. Alakaslam - I keep fluctuating on him. Sometimes the happiness seems like it could be town slam, but he's been swinging a lot between very "lucid" posts and completely worthless ones. He keeps saying he's finding towns, but I have yet to see those conclusions except for the one time he was asked who the towniest town was. Fecalfeast - Still like some of his posting. Just not getting a strong town vibe from him. He seems to have suddenly gotten more interested in scumhunting tonight, and my paranoid mind is whispering...SK? If he's not the SK, though, I don't really think he's mafia. IAmRobik - Disclaimer: Kind of hate how he plays and part of this is probably OMGUS. But seriously, if you're trying to call SK shots, unless I'm his biggest scumread ever, suggesting to shoot me is so anti-town it's ridiculous. The last thing town needs right now is another town flip, and he should realize that. The obvious play is to take out a player everyone is generally scumreading, because even if they're town, that's one less person to mislynch tomorrow. I'm not calling him straight-up mafia just because his reads have been pretty good this game, and I know he's a good enough player that this doesn't necessarily mean he already knows everyone's alignment. VayneAuthority - The AFK wonder of the group. Meta-reads aside, it's coming up on end of N2 and the lurking has crossed from inactive to flat-out scummy. ritoky - His filter was just straight-up unimpressive. Add in all the little I'm not scum, I'm not scum, see my town tell? posts and it's even worse. Obviously if he knows his town tell so well (and I'll admit I have no clue what that actually is) he can emulate it as scum. The "LS is mafia cause this is so a secret OBS QT convo" case is so shit tier that he deserves to be lynched with fire. prplhz - Gonna come straight out and call him the "gimme scum" of the bunch. Most people I have little doubts about here or there, but prplhz does the quadruple whammy of: shit!entrance, no real scumhunting, general inactivity, and returning to the thread just to ask for updates or whine at the people scumreading him for their reasons. Like, there doesn't even need to be a case against this guy, it's so open and shut. The three bottom I'd lynch (or be happy to see shot) in a second. This game is way too easy (though I wouldn't complain!) if I'm right on Robik and FF, too, though. I'd guess the other two are in my null/null-leaning-scum reads. The null-leaning-town reads I'd need to see a good case for to lynch tomorrow. So I'm to assume the red-coloured people (BH+super) are at the top because of the host stuff but are scummy to you anyway? Regarding damdred and slam, what has slam done to make him more towny than, say, robik? Same sorta goes with damdred, though I understand nulling him until he does something impressive, what has he done so far to make him higher on the list than, oh I don't know, me? | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:39 Superbia wrote: Also the fact that prplhz is at the end of many people's lists is somewhat intriguing. Elaborate? | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:39 Superbia wrote: Also the fact that prplhz is at the end of many people's lists is somewhat intriguing. No one specified preference when I took down people's lists from what I recall, at least not until Rasputin's latest post. "End" means nothing, scum is scum unless the person actually states a rank/preference. | ||
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I feel like there has been no pressure on him whatsoever this game. Easy pressure point for scum. Especially since low post-count would imply likely PR if he's town. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:42 Superbia wrote: I feel like there has been no pressure on him whatsoever this game. Easy pressure point for scum. Especially since low post-count would imply likely PR if he's town. Like people mention ritoky (as being mafia) for a lack of presence. What about prplhz then? | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:41 Fecalfeast wrote: So I'm to assume the red-coloured people (BH+super) are at the top because of the host stuff but are scummy to you anyway? Regarding damdred and slam, what has slam done to make him more towny than, say, robik? Same sorta goes with damdred, though I understand nulling him until he does something impressive, what has he done so far to make him higher on the list than, oh I don't know, me? Read lol I said I'm dropping my tinfoil hat on BH, and went into detail on the read. All of them, really. The red is the color of power roles in this game. BH is (probably most likely or supoku time) JK, and Super has claimed vet. I'm still a bit paranoid about Super, mostly cause up until now he's been in the background despite his all but confirmed town status. My initial impression after Day 1 on slam was town and it's been drifting null the longer the game goes. Damdred's case and push. I don't know if he does that as scum, honestly, but it puts him in the limelight for the Rayn lynch, which I'd think scum would want to avoid. It also demonstrates putting the work in to make the case to begin with. (Basically the same reason I'm townreadingish HtS). Robik I think is scummy. That's explained. I also admitted it may be OMGUS/emotional, but whatever, it's how I feel right now. You're just making me paranoid when you've suddenly seemed to pick up interest tonight xP I already said I think you're the SK if you're scum. Again. It's all explained. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:45 Superbia wrote: Like people mention ritoky (as being mafia) for a lack of presence. What about prplhz then? Oh, I completely agree. My kneejerk reaction when asked for a scumlist by Palmar (I think this was when it happened) was prplhz should be the lynch, and it is pretty strange how he's been left alone. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:40 rsoultin wrote: You're still scumreading FF...do you think his wagon would have formed that fast if he was mafia? That's actually part of the reason that I think if he's scum, he's probably the SK. Also, what do you think of his participation so far Night 2? This is a fair question. To be honest - and I'll just say it now - based on his reads - I was sure that Ritoky was the SK actually for awhile when he was scumreading FF and Rayn, but now I'm not so sure. You have a point on the formation of the wagon. Offhand, IIRC Palmar just jumped on it right away but I recall him putting FF on his lynchables list as he did me. The progression seemed logical at that time. Damdred straight up sheeped coming off straight replacement when many (including myself) were doubting Breshke's participation. At that time I meta read Breshke at scum because in his scum reads he presented scum reads RIGHT at the end of day, and he wasn't solid in his reads most of D1 before replacement. Slam and LS sheeped as well, and LS made a claim at the time that he felt that FF should know his play better but I think he rescinded that. I need to check LS's filter one more time. The jumps in logic were my problem when he made his reads on me and his interaction in the whole LS thing just a few hours ago almost reconfirms how I felt earlier, I felt quite uneasy on that, but Ritoky and Blazinghand's behaviour in all that exchange raised a massive red flag, to be honest, FF paled in comparison to those two. My reaction was just.....holy shit. Like BH you are a bloody idiot if you are not scum. But on FF, it was just sheeping entirely. On February 20 2015 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote: Well, You have my vote-sword BH and ritoky. He made that nuke comment and hardly anything in that exchange as Ritoky and BH overshadowed him. Right now, I would be pushing Ritoky and prplhz over FF largely honestly given the list I compiled - this late and in mylo, the reads on townies should be somewhat similar and converging. Should scum flip I would be trying to work off what I had on those people. | ||
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