EPTVII Titanic Mini Mafia: I Have a Cunning Plan... - Page 164
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Revisit the following: - The BH/TP claim debacle. I have wanted to look more into this and see how people interact. Expect scum to be not very loud but willing to join the wagon on BH. They will likely have no new input on the wagon. - The liancourt lynch. Liancourt claimed cop at the EoD, while he was VT. Look at the people who interacted with this lynch and how. - The wagon switch from FF to rayn. The ease with which this happened and with which the wagons were formed makes it feel like it went from a town to a town wagon. Look at the people who were happy with sheeping the votes. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:06 Superbia wrote: So a few things for town: Ritoky is town because he seems to be genuinely paying attention. Also he seemed town d1. Robik seems angry and therefore. Honestly I came to EoN to call him scum but I read his filter and it seems townie. Especially compared to PYP, where he was scum. Might be underestimating his scum play. But I don't have a lot of time. FF I read as PR/Mafia early on. Reread his filter and he seemed town. I kind of have a town soulread on FF which has not come to fruition this game. Gut says he might be mafia, head says he's town. Sticking to head on this one. VA is called town by people who claim to read him. I read his d1 filter and seemed to agree with almost everything he said, which is why I read him town independently. I'm not sure why he's been very lurky. Looks like probably our biggest disconnect is ritoky. He also seems to be your strongest townread. Why am I wrong on him? | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:12 rsoultin wrote: Looks like probably our biggest disconnect is ritoky. He also seems to be your strongest townread. Why am I wrong on him? He's not really my strongest town-read per say. I read him town d1 because he seemed different from when I was mafia with him. I feel like he's more salty when he's mafia, he hasn't been this game. The fact that he pinged out LS on the HtS thing makes it feel like he's paying attention to the game. His lack of presence on d2 is not alignment indicative to me. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:12 rsoultin wrote: Looks like probably our biggest disconnect is ritoky. He also seems to be your strongest townread. Why am I wrong on him? Good morning. And Rasputin, it's not just you. Why do you think I'm tallying people's scumteams? We're in mylo and the BS I'm seeing from some people here (notably Ritoky and Blazinghand) tonight is borderline hilarious. On February 20 2015 00:45 Half the Sky wrote: Updated MYLO scumteams by player (number in parenthesis is the page number they called out that given scumteam) Palmar (154) FF, Ritoky, VA, prplhz Rsoultin (153) prplhz, Ritoky, BH, Super 5th: Slam/HTS/Robik/Damdred VA (155) LS, Ritoky, prplhz, Breshke (until rep) Robik as SK maybe Damdred HTS (155) Ritoky, FF, Blazinghand, prphlz 5th: Robik or someone from my tinfoil category Robik (151, 153) LS, Blazinghand, Rasputin, TBD LS (155) Ritoky, VA, Robik, Alakaslam, prplhz How many people are scumreading Ritoky again? Quite a few people. There's a reason for that. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:17 Half the Sky wrote: Good morning. And Rasputin, it's not just you. Why do you think I'm tallying people's scumteams? We're in mylo and the BS I'm seeing from some people here (notably Ritoky and Blazinghand) tonight is borderline hilarious. How many people are scumreading Ritoky again? Quite a few people. There's a reason for that. What's your reason? | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:15 Superbia wrote: He's not really my strongest town-read per say. I read him town d1 because he seemed different from when I was mafia with him. I feel like he's more salty when he's mafia, he hasn't been this game. The fact that he pinged out LS on the HtS thing makes it feel like he's paying attention to the game. His lack of presence on d2 is not alignment indicative to me. Hm. Maybe I should reread his filter again, cause it didn't really stick in my head well and I read it just this morning (forgettable to me is scummy). I don't know; I figure if you're reading something close enough to notice a possible discrepancy, you'd also take a second to actually consider what is being said. | ||
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Regarding earlier reasons, I already justified my reasons for voteswitches for Ritoky. First off, he accuses me of copying his read on Fecalfeast at the beginning regarding his comfort level. Yet he never went after liancourt who did the EXACT SAME THING after I did and he flipped town. Selective reading on that end. I also argued earlier this game that Ritoky isolated a post and took it out of context when I switched voting onto Blazinghand earlier D1. On February 16 2015 08:58 Half the Sky wrote: I have no idea why Ritoky is scumreading me. I discussed BH's lack of contribution and got on with BH for several posts discussing his RNG and potential non-RNG reasons for scumreading VA before voting him. And then when he claimed, I had a problem with BH's claim that far from the deadline, when he could alternatively read the thread or discuss alternate targets. Context please. What Ritoky did in his scumread on me was isolate a SINGLE post without considering what I did before and after the post he chose to present in his case. I made my case that a JK claim 10h prior to lynch was not credible, which represents followthrough. He also makes a lot of leaps in logic, particularly with when I discussed the hypothical SK strategy, which YOU ACTUALLY QUESTIONED why Ritoky was pinging me when others made their own theories. Those are just a few examples, but his leaps in logic have been problematic all game. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:19 Superbia wrote: Like the amount of people scum reading Ritoky has nothing to do with his alignment. A lot of people were scum-reading Rayn, a lot of people were scum-reading lian. You can't use that metric as an excuse to read someone scum. +1 Sometimes it's a great indication that they're actually town. Devil's advocate time, though: Generally you're not going to see that many scumreads if a player isn't at least acting scummy, given at least some of those scumreads have to be coming from town. In that sense HtS has a point. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:21 Superbia wrote: In fact, HtS, who on that list-list are you scum-reading? "list-list" as in my list or Rasputin's? We have Ritoky and prplhz in common as scumreads if you mean the latter. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:19 Superbia wrote: Like the amount of people scum reading Ritoky has nothing to do with his alignment. A lot of people were scum-reading Rayn, a lot of people were scum-reading lian. You can't use that metric as an excuse to read someone scum. My differentiation between the "lot" of people scumreading someone is not THAT they were scumreading someone but the WHY they were doing this. Who was misguided and who is misleading? That's the question I'm trying to answer with my reads. | ||
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On February 20 2015 12:56 Superbia wrote: So HtS made a case earlier on FF which she then easily abandoned to sheep a case on Rayn. I don't believe a townie would put so much time/energy into a case on someone just to easily abandon it like she did. But on the other hand she has put a lot of time into the game. Mafia pile bc yolo. Also Robik questioned me on the same thing, and I'll tell you the same thing I told him. Read page 41 and read my exchange with Rayn from pages 29-30. You will see why I am scumreading him from the VERY BEGINNING. I had a scumread on Rayn and presented several points on him on page 41. So your point on me abandoning to sheep a case on Rayn is completely invalid. As I pointed out to either Ritoky or FF (I cannot remember which one) I was the LAST one off Fecalfeast. And when Rayn became even more active, he actually gave me even more material to work with in presenting further cases on him based on his approach to his reads versus what actually happened - and I presented contrasting points on those. So you need to read my filter again, because we're in mylo and yolo reads in mylo are extremely dangerous. | ||
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