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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 19 2015 22:48 GMT
#3141
On February 20 2015 07:44 LightningStrike wrote:
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On February 20 2015 07:21 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:18 ritoky wrote:
[quote]

I mean, explain how I have "mafia traits" from my meta in depth plz. examples necessary.

Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol


I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked.

your read is not only bad, but made up.

I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS.

Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them.


so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play?

WHAT?

Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.


I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them?

Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it.

I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


Told you where?

You realize that HtS' entire read on me is OMGUS right? Like she completely agreed with everything I was saying, then I didn't like her moving her read off of rayn onto someone else for a weak reason. Considering it now, she moved it from a town onto a town and was the last person to move, which seems like a really useless play to make as mafia so HtS is probably town.

You also still haven't answered the above questions about where the tunnel is in my filter this game.

I just checked your filter and you weren't super tunneled this game on HTS but you were on me. Here are the posts you had on you scumreading me:

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On February 17 2015 07:44 ritoky wrote:
remember the part where slam made a joke about being jailkeeper and LS, rayn, and some1 else took it super serious.

remember that part.


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On February 17 2015 09:08 ritoky wrote:
I am starting to be inclined to think LS is scum because dood takin urrthing so srs.

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On February 19 2015 08:31 ritoky wrote:
examining current vote count, if there's been changed votes since this, I am too tired atm to fix shit.

On February 19 2015 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
Vote Count

BlazingHand (1) - VayneAuthority
VayneAuthority (2) - BlazingHand, rsoultin
raynpelikoneet (5) - Damdred, LightningStrike, Palmar, Half the Sky, Alakaslam
Half the Sky (1) - raynpelikoneet

raynpelikoneet is set to be lynched. 7h26m until deadline



On February 17 2015 15:50 ritoky wrote:
Day 1 Votecount

liancourt (8) - Blazinghand, IAmRobik, LightningStrike, FecalFeast, ritoky, Breshke, Superbia, rsoultin
Blazinghand (5) - Half the Sky, VayneAuthority, liancourt, KelsierSC, prplhz
Town Puppy (1) - Alakaslam
raynpelikoneet (1) - Palmar
Half the Sky (1) - raynpelikoneet
rsoultin (1) - Town Puppy


so the first thing I would like to draw your attention to is the vote on lian. by my metrics of numbers in my head and just game statistics, there is almost certainly to be at least 1 mafia on that wagon and likely 2. so I want to start narrowing it down a bit. superbia is town until proven otherwise because of a veteran claim, I am town because duh. I have a town lean on robik (less than yesterday but not gone yet). so we strike them off of here for the time being. that leaves 5: BH, LS, damdred, rsoul, and FF.

let's ignore FF for now because he is an outlier. if you look at the votes so far today, they have paired off. BH and rsoul are on VA and damdred and LS are on rayn. I would not be surprised if these pairs were aligned, which makes the vote on rayn super interesting to me, being that BH is a possible if not likely JK who is claimed for quite a while; so I would be more inclined to believe at this point that the rsoul + BH pair is less likely mafia than the LS + damdred pairing.

the weird thing though is independent of this vote analysis I think damdred is probably town though, but I really didn't like breshke when breshke was playing, so it could just be a good player fooling me.

anyway back to FF, the issue I am having with FF this game is that I have seen invested screaming FF town and invested screaming FF mafia, but never uninvested FF for as long as he was this game. he is just playing completely different than I have seen before, hence why I am more inclined toward him being sk.


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On February 20 2015 05:36 ritoky wrote:
actually I don't even need LS to explain that, LS is basically confirmed mafia to me. that read is completely made up. not only is it completely made up, but it is also hedged at the end. further he doesn't add me to his mafia by poe meta list at the top, then down bottom he calls me mafia.

good luck on finding that meta stuff too.


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On February 20 2015 05:55 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 05:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Like, I'm not literally modconfirmed. The mod hasn't come in and said I'm town. But you guys aren't actually gonna lynch me this game and you know it, you know it so much you're asking the SK or Scum to shoot me instead of trying to write a real case. We all know it's not happening so stop wasting everyone's time.


you asked if there was a chance, and I said yes

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we should be lynching LS for made up reads.

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On February 20 2015 06:11 ritoky wrote:
god damn my vote logic post from last phase is sexy. wonder why 0 people commented on it. does the truth hurt your eyes that much?

also wasn't LS the one who robik caught editing his posts in a super obvious way?

all aboard that LS + damdred train baby.

There you go you welcome.


so my "tunnel" on you this game was 3 posts prior to you manufacturing a read on me about an hour ago?

yeah you got rekt. go look at those games you cited, literally 75% of my posts are on the person I am tunneling.

now I just need to figure out if you're doing this as donkey town, because this is entering that potentially too terrible to be mafia area.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 19 2015 23:01 GMT
#3142
LS I'm not buying the ritoky stuff what else you got?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 19 2015 23:15 GMT
#3143
On February 20 2015 04:08 Blazinghand wrote:
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On February 20 2015 02:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
BH will you quit mafia if im not scum?


no, I don't see why I would? I mean, if you're somehow not scum that's on you Brometheus

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On February 20 2015 04:01 Palmar wrote:
of all the things that make me town this game the rb claim is the least one of it robik.


This is accurate. Palmar isn't a scum janitor, an SK, or the scum RB (alternatively: scum has 2x RB or 2x janitor, very unlikely). If Palmar is scum he's a godfather or a vanilla scum. So, the RB claim doesn't make Palmar town at all, it just makes him not one or two particular scum PRs and not the SK.

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On February 20 2015 04:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Dear Prince Ludwig the Indestructible,

Please shoot into any of the following Frenchmen tonight: Ritoky, prplhz or Blazinghand.

Your English Sympathiser,
HTS


>:| do you really think there's a chance I'm scum, just because you don't like the 'tude?


? all the best people at reading me have said im confirmed town, one is even flipped town. It would be on you for ignoring that. You're either scum or not as good as you think you are, pick one
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 19 2015 23:22 GMT
#3144
VA,

I don't think BH thinks he's good.

Sincerely,

Robik
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 19 2015 23:23 GMT
#3145
On February 20 2015 08:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 04:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 20 2015 02:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
BH will you quit mafia if im not scum?


no, I don't see why I would? I mean, if you're somehow not scum that's on you Brometheus

On February 20 2015 04:01 Palmar wrote:
of all the things that make me town this game the rb claim is the least one of it robik.


This is accurate. Palmar isn't a scum janitor, an SK, or the scum RB (alternatively: scum has 2x RB or 2x janitor, very unlikely). If Palmar is scum he's a godfather or a vanilla scum. So, the RB claim doesn't make Palmar town at all, it just makes him not one or two particular scum PRs and not the SK.

On February 20 2015 04:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Dear Prince Ludwig the Indestructible,

Please shoot into any of the following Frenchmen tonight: Ritoky, prplhz or Blazinghand.

Your English Sympathiser,
HTS


>:| do you really think there's a chance I'm scum, just because you don't like the 'tude?


? all the best people at reading me have said im confirmed town, one is even flipped town. It would be on you for ignoring that. You're either scum or not as good as you think you are, pick one


good point rayn was the paragon of reason and usefulness this game oh no wait the opposite of that

in any case you're getting lynched tomorrow no matter what so don't even worry
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 19 2015 23:24 GMT
#3146
On February 20 2015 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 08:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 20 2015 04:08 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 20 2015 02:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
BH will you quit mafia if im not scum?


no, I don't see why I would? I mean, if you're somehow not scum that's on you Brometheus

On February 20 2015 04:01 Palmar wrote:
of all the things that make me town this game the rb claim is the least one of it robik.


This is accurate. Palmar isn't a scum janitor, an SK, or the scum RB (alternatively: scum has 2x RB or 2x janitor, very unlikely). If Palmar is scum he's a godfather or a vanilla scum. So, the RB claim doesn't make Palmar town at all, it just makes him not one or two particular scum PRs and not the SK.

On February 20 2015 04:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Dear Prince Ludwig the Indestructible,

Please shoot into any of the following Frenchmen tonight: Ritoky, prplhz or Blazinghand.

Your English Sympathiser,
HTS


>:| do you really think there's a chance I'm scum, just because you don't like the 'tude?


? all the best people at reading me have said im confirmed town, one is even flipped town. It would be on you for ignoring that. You're either scum or not as good as you think you are, pick one


good point rayn was the paragon of reason and usefulness this game oh no wait the opposite of that

in any case you're getting lynched tomorrow no matter what so don't even worry


either way he is by far the best person at reading me on this site, no one even comes close to amount of games played with me.
I come in for the scraps
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 19 2015 23:26 GMT
#3147
On February 20 2015 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
good point rayn was the paragon of reason and usefulness this game oh no wait the opposite of that


I'll be blunt, you aren't categorically much better.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 19 2015 23:27 GMT
#3148
Also BH, you realise there are others(besides VA) suspecting you. There is a reason for that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 19 2015 23:28 GMT
#3149
On February 20 2015 08:26 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
good point rayn was the paragon of reason and usefulness this game oh no wait the opposite of that


I'll be blunt, you aren't categorically much better.


Do you disagree with my case on VA? Ah, there we go, looks like I'm right, so I must be someone reasonable. Also, unlike rayn, I haven't been mislynched, so I'm already more useful than him.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 19 2015 23:29 GMT
#3150
On February 20 2015 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Also BH, you realise there are others(besides VA) suspecting you. There is a reason for that.


Yeah, but unlike VA you guys won't vote me so I have no need to worry. I'll just say what I think and not censor myself just because it bothers people.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 19 2015 23:31 GMT
#3151
Like, I'm gonna be real here, I'm not sure what exactly it is that bothers you guys about me, in terms of actual content. Sure, I said scummy things about rayn and have generally been unhelpful, but when I remember to, I give reads and evaluate other people's cases, and although you might call me tunnelled on VA, I have every reason to want to lynch him and so do you, so you can't even really say I'm wrong on that. I ALSO successfully called that rayn was willing to fake anger and claims as town despite his "angry" assurances that he'd never fake it, so there's that. I don't get much credit though because I didn't actually defend rayn though, and that's fair.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 19 2015 23:33 GMT
#3152
Like, people are legit mad at me for saying things that are correct, things like:

- noting that rayn can pretend to be angry as town
- noting that VA has been the best lynch every day and pushing him
---- remember, these are people who aGREE WITH ME THAT VA IS DOING NOTHING
- noting that superbia is not actually mod-confirmed, but is likely town
- noting that I am not actually mod-confirmed, but am fairly close to it

like why would you scumread me for any of this? I've even done other things like townread Alakaslam who is impossible to read anyways
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 19 2015 23:55 GMT
#3153
well from everyone's point of view that thinks you have borderline autism, none of those things have helped find mafia given that im town.
I come in for the scraps
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 19 2015 23:59 GMT
#3154
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:18 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 05:32 ritoky wrote:
[quote]

explain this in depth please.

The non confirmed players are either Mafia or SK and I finding you as either the SK or Mafia by Process of Elimation from all my reads and the confirmed towns were claimed roles or mod confirmed (BH) and then I decided to go meta reading players and elimated but the 5 in the non confirmed pile so that means that you are either A. Mafia or B. Serial Killer.


I mean, explain how I have "mafia traits" from my meta in depth plz. examples necessary.

Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol


I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked.

your read is not only bad, but made up.

I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS.

Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them.


so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play?

WHAT?

Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.


I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them?

Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it.

I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 20 2015 00:05 GMT
#3155
On February 20 2015 08:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
well from everyone's point of view that thinks you have borderline autism, none of those things have helped find mafia given that im town.

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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 20 2015 00:06 GMT
#3156
On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:18 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
The non confirmed players are either Mafia or SK and I finding you as either the SK or Mafia by Process of Elimation from all my reads and the confirmed towns were claimed roles or mod confirmed (BH) and then I decided to go meta reading players and elimated but the 5 in the non confirmed pile so that means that you are either A. Mafia or B. Serial Killer.


I mean, explain how I have "mafia traits" from my meta in depth plz. examples necessary.

Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol


I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked.

your read is not only bad, but made up.

I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS.

Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them.


so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play?

WHAT?

Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.


I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them?

Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it.

I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.


actually I'd rather eat popcorn for this post you just launched a nuke bro
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 20 2015 00:09 GMT
#3157
On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:18 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
The non confirmed players are either Mafia or SK and I finding you as either the SK or Mafia by Process of Elimation from all my reads and the confirmed towns were claimed roles or mod confirmed (BH) and then I decided to go meta reading players and elimated but the 5 in the non confirmed pile so that means that you are either A. Mafia or B. Serial Killer.


I mean, explain how I have "mafia traits" from my meta in depth plz. examples necessary.

Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol


I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked.

your read is not only bad, but made up.

I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS.

Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them.


so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play?

WHAT?

Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.


I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them?

Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it.

I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.


if this actually pans out I nominate this for biggest play 2015
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 20 2015 00:10 GMT
#3158
if that pans out I'll have to admit I'm not even on ritoky's level
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 20 2015 00:18 GMT
#3159
I just had the thought to remind everyone that damdred exists in this game.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
February 20 2015 00:22 GMT
#3160
On February 20 2015 08:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
well from everyone's point of view that thinks you have borderline autism, none of those things have helped find mafia given that im town.

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