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On February 09 2015 21:05 Damdred wrote: Rayn is my hero. We should kill gobble today and go from there. No i want to kill Keirathi. He is way likely to be mafia than anyone else in this game. Let me take a shower and i'll explain, i just got off work. | ||
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After my initial pressure and gut read on him he made this set of posts: On February 08 2015 06:47 Keirathi wrote: It's just rayn doing the same thing he does every game we play together. He thinks I'm scum on day 1 because I play differently than he does, he's wrong, and then we eventually end up working together to win the game. It's happened in every single game we've played together, and there's nothing else worth talking about so I'm just stringing him along. On February 08 2015 06:50 Keirathi wrote: He's not getting worked up and we're not starting a shitstorm. Eventually there will be other things to talk about, but for now there aren't. On the first bolded in the first quote: It is not correct. The only game i have thought Keirathi was mafia was the Red Team's Prize and that was the first game i had ever played with him. Even in that game, he was easily able to prove he is town by the end of D1. For reference in Broadwalk Empire PYP i made a plan where i had six really really strong town reads i wanted to have pick first -- all my townreads were correct, Keirathi was one of them, one of the first -- so he definitely is capable of looking town as town early on in the game, at that point the game was @ N0. I also found him town pretty early (when he started posting) in NMM ep1. That would be all the town/town games i remember playing with Keirathi. On the second quote: See the nested quotes. What FecalFeast bolded was a really good point. There is absolutely no reason for town!Keirathi to "aid rayn's tunnel" on him, because he already thinks i am town as per what he said. Why would you want to make townies accuse townies? It is far likely that he is mafia, does know my case isn't that strong, so he just continuously lol's on it. That's not what townies do. On the second bolded on the first quote: What has Keirathi done since? Like REALLY done, something that is actual scumhunting. He accused Slam. At the moment i told him "Slam is town" he retracted for the accusation. Then he wanted to play that stupid game that cannot actually prove anything in any direction. What Keirathi has done in other games, or how he has reacted to the votes on him has nothing to do with this game. If me, or anyone else cannot read him correctly based on some quotes from some games does not mean the case on him is bullshit. Saying so is bullshit, and not a townie way to prove someone is wrong. Then he threw some questions around -- i didn't find them helpful at all because apparently they didn't end up in any conclusions. So let's see where he is at now. Again -- look at this: Eventually there will be other things to talk about, but for now there aren't. When is eventually? On D2? It is fucking three hours left in D1 and he hasn't got ANY scumreads he has elaborated on in ANY way. Apparently he thinks liancourt and maybe gobble are mafia. Why? Noone knows -- at least i don't. Basically Keirathi's play this game has been unnecessarily arguing with me, throwing some questions around, suspecting Slam, then backing off him when i say he is town (i find it really hard to believe he would just take my words at face value REGARDLESS of what he thinks of my alignment -- other thing is there is at least geript, who thinks Slam is not town (and as town is good at reading Slam). Why doesn't Keirathi revisit his argument on Slam after geript kinda backs him up?). This is his last "reads post": On February 09 2015 13:59 Keirathi wrote: I think theres probably 2 within gobbo/slam/lian/maybe LM. Ask me again after flips. SO WISHY WASHY SO FUCKING WISHY WASHY!!! Keirathi is literally not trying to find mafia and should be murdered with fire asap. kthxbye. | ||
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geript is mafia because his reaction to OBi's post was TOTALLY over the top filled with fuck's and shit's and there is basically no way he gets that emotional over some random post (that wasn't even bad imo). Also he should never read Kerathi as town in this game. But we are still going to lynch Keirathi, There is probably 10% chance i am wrong on gobble (just because i have never played with him -- all of his posts scream insecure scum though), and about 15% chance i am wrong on geript, because i have a tendency to not understand him at all on D1. I just can't get over that one post and his reads on Keir and Slam. | ||
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If you can't refute my case then it should be very likely to you that Keirathi is mafia. HE HAS LITERALLY NO SCUMREADS AND HASN'T DONE ANYTHIGN TO FIND MAFIA! Jesus what else do you need? Or don't you just wanna bus? Btw i don't find your case on Obi good at all. When he has been mislynched it has been because he hasn't been pushy enough and seems wishy-washy. However everything he has said fits his narrative. That is at worst a null-tell. | ||
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At first he was being really consistent and had some nice posts but then his game has totes dropped off being "good". I wouldn't even remember any of his posts if he didn't do that fishy vote switch with apparently no reason. Like he has literanny NEVER brought Obi up. Suddenly he is a "better lynch" than his original scumread. | ||
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On February 10 2015 02:41 geript wrote: That's basically what you said about toad too. Yeah well i still lynched mafia. We can go back to this argument on D2 but Keirathi is mafia. | ||
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And i am really fucking confident right now. | ||
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On February 10 2015 02:53 Damdred wrote: Honestly Rayn we are in an interesting spot this is one of the times i'm most sure as well.... The problem is if only one of them is mafia it's Keirathi. There is also another dude besides sicklucker who could be scum (if geript or/and gobble are not). And honestly gobble is having his vote on them so mehhh.... | ||
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He said something really terrible at some point. | ||
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On February 10 2015 02:31 LightningStrike wrote: rayn we can lynch Ker next day phase because we got confirmed scum in gooble atm which I think is the better lynch since he is a bigger question mark on peoples mind than Ker. Like this is a really retarded reason to lynch someone over some other person. but idk if it makes him mafia.. or just bad. | ||
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On February 10 2015 03:21 Damdred wrote: Actually theres something completely different in what hes saying in those two posts LM... one says I don't think hes ever played which is bad because of the database. But now he knows that he has so he wants the game link. Really different. LS clearly doesn't know who is mafia and shows it. I just went through his last games on D1 and it is typical for his town play. as scum he really tries to force out scumreads. That dude is totes town. | ||
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On February 10 2015 03:23 LoneMeow wrote: Can we just lynch the crap out of LightningStrike? I'm fairly sure he's scum. Everything about him seems off and forced, he hasn't raised any of the questions he usually does (except when explicitly asked about why he doesn't do that) and just generally hasn't been putting in the effort and volunteering his reads like he usually does. I don't think you are correct here. The timing of this post is also really mehhhh... | ||
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On February 10 2015 03:30 geript wrote: OWS is still a much, much better lynch. Tl;dr edition-- 1. Has no reasons for his vote 2. Votes for a guy while trying to lynch someone else 3. Reasons for wanting to vote someone else are the worst made up shit ever 4. Is the most useless poster ever 5. Magical "townread" (which isn't really a townread) on Keir because the reasons for pushing him were bad/lame First of all your #1 cannot be true because your #3 argues otherwise. I don't think #2 is true but in case i have missed something feel free to show me what have i missed. #3 doesn't necessarily make anyone mafia #4 doesn't necessarily make anyone mafia #5 he has never had a town read on Keirathi afaik, his reasons for not voting for Keirathi i can understand from town perspective. Like this is the only thing i got from your case and you TOTALLY overplayed how "scummy" this is. Because it isn't. | ||
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