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On March 03 2015 18:43 Mocsta wrote:
Anyways, I was more alluding hes either faking dubm (a la BH) or is the typical fallacious status quo.
I judged a lot of the interactions as philosophical warring and treat him as #2 (fallacious) currently.
Thus, my current expectation for him is to act in the way you deem unfit for perfect play.
I am not sure i buy this explanation.
So your conclusion (yes, in the post where you originally posted your comment i talked about it WAS a conclusion of yours) is that he, as town, for some reason should scumread people who scumread his town reads. I have absolutely no idea how you end up on this conclusion because it is a narrative YOU invented for him and nothing in his play implicates he should think this way.
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your mom can you just tell me if you agree/disagree with my reads on koshi and sandroba?
Then i'll answer anything you want me to.
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On March 03 2015 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 18:43 Mocsta wrote:
Anyways, I was more alluding hes either faking dubm (a la BH) or is the typical fallacious status quo.
I judged a lot of the interactions as philosophical warring and treat him as #2 (fallacious) currently.
Thus, my current expectation for him is to act in the way you deem unfit for perfect play.
I am not sure i buy this explanation. So your conclusion (yes, in the post where you originally posted your comment i talked about it WAS a conclusion of yours) is that he, as town, for some reason should scumread people who scumread his town reads. I have absolutely no idea how you end up on this conclusion because it is a narrative YOU invented for him and nothing in his play implicates he should think this way.
Rayn,
You don't speak english as a first langugage. That I can udnerstand you clearly is a bonus; not an expectation.
Nothing Epiphany makes me think of him as the new Marv in wit; or Ver in analysis.
If you want to judge others to those standards, be my guest. Whether I do, is my choice independent of town or scum.
Stop shitting the thread on soemthing taht is not alignment indicative.
Heippa
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On March 03 2015 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 18:43 Mocsta wrote:
Anyways, I was more alluding hes either faking dubm (a la BH) or is the typical fallacious status quo.
I judged a lot of the interactions as philosophical warring and treat him as #2 (fallacious) currently.
Thus, my current expectation for him is to act in the way you deem unfit for perfect play.
I am not sure i buy this explanation. So your conclusion (yes, in the post where you originally posted your comment i talked about it WAS a conclusion of yours) is that he, as town, for some reason should scumread people who scumread his town reads. I have absolutely no idea how you end up on this conclusion because it is a narrative YOU invented for him and nothing in his play implicates he should think this way.
I agree with what you write, though I don't really have any conclusion coming out of it.
I don't think that disagreeing with me about somebody being town makes them suspicious in my eyes.
By the way, I didn't even see that as a "narrative he invented for me", but simply as what was natural to his thought process, I might have disagreed with him about it on another day, but I've had enough hostility on me without quibbling with him about what approach is natural.
He posted that under 'basis' so I took that to be his thought process about whom he tends to suspect rather than him creating a narrative for me.
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On March 03 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
your mom can you just tell me if you agree/disagree with my reads on koshi and sandroba?
Then i'll answer anything you want me to.
in my own time i will post a read on them, i have work to do now and have to go in one hour
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On March 03 2015 19:03 AT.Epiphany wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 03 2015 18:43 Mocsta wrote:
Anyways, I was more alluding hes either faking dubm (a la BH) or is the typical fallacious status quo.
I judged a lot of the interactions as philosophical warring and treat him as #2 (fallacious) currently.
Thus, my current expectation for him is to act in the way you deem unfit for perfect play.
I am not sure i buy this explanation. So your conclusion (yes, in the post where you originally posted your comment i talked about it WAS a conclusion of yours) is that he, as town, for some reason should scumread people who scumread his town reads. I have absolutely no idea how you end up on this conclusion because it is a narrative YOU invented for him and nothing in his play implicates he should think this way. I agree with what you write, though I don't really have any conclusion coming out of it. I don't think that disagreeing with me about somebody being town makes them suspicious in my eyes. By the way, I didn't even see that as a "narrative he invented for me", but simply as what was natural to his thought process, I might have disagreed with him about it on another day, but I've had enough hostility on me without quibbling with him about what approach is natural. He posted that under 'basis' so I took that to be his thought process about whom he tends to suspect rather than him creating a narrative for me.
The problem here for me is that apparently Mocsta sees you as some kind of a dumbass who has no clue in how to play mafia. I heavily disagree with that because of your post on geript. While i think you are wrong on geript's alignment and at the start of the game focused on things i find to be irrelevant your post on geript was really thought out and it fits with how you think the D1 here should be played in your opinion. I find those cases on geript a massive towntell for you, and i also find them to show that you are actually well capable of thinking which makes you NOT a bad player.
However Mocsta seems to be thinking the opposite and i can't understand why. Like i don't even know what he got out of calling you mafia??? Many big wasted posts to end up in a conclusion "this guy is dumb"?? I don't buy it.
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On March 03 2015 19:06 your mom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
your mom can you just tell me if you agree/disagree with my reads on koshi and sandroba?
Then i'll answer anything you want me to. in my own time i will post a read on them, i have work to do now and have to go in one hour
so you couldn't even post "agree" or "disagree" (which would actually make me contribute towards what YOU want) and you call me out for not answering your questions?
i call bs
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On March 03 2015 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 19:06 your mom wrote:On March 03 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
your mom can you just tell me if you agree/disagree with my reads on koshi and sandroba?
Then i'll answer anything you want me to. in my own time i will post a read on them, i have work to do now and have to go in one hour so you couldn't even post "agree" or "disagree" (which would actually make me contribute towards what YOU want) and you call me out for not answering your questions? i call bs
im just f5ing the front page occasionally at the moment. not gonna give out forced reads cause you want me to.
difference between you and me is i call people mafia and post reasoning. you call people mafia post no reasoning and when asked for reasoning want me to post reasoning about people i didnt call mafia.
so of the two of us you're the one with the weaker standing trust me.
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On March 03 2015 19:25 your mom wrote:
im just f5ing the front page occasionally at the moment. not gonna give out forced reads cause you want me to.
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but you just gave out a forced read on me.
Because obviously you haven't even read the thread. Yet you call me mafia for not explaining my reads (which i have in fact done), and for keeping my options open (which is definitely not correct).
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On March 03 2015 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 19:25 your mom wrote:
im just f5ing the front page occasionally at the moment. not gonna give out forced reads cause you want me to.
. but you just gave out a forced read on me. Because obviously you haven't even read the thread. Yet you call me mafia for not explaining my reads (which i have in fact done), and for keeping my options open (which is definitely not correct).
did you explain the read on me and hts? and how do you define my read on you as forced, it would be forced if i didnt give it out on my own, but i did.
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On March 03 2015 19:31 your mom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 03 2015 19:25 your mom wrote:
im just f5ing the front page occasionally at the moment. not gonna give out forced reads cause you want me to.
. but you just gave out a forced read on me. Because obviously you haven't even read the thread. Yet you call me mafia for not explaining my reads (which i have in fact done), and for keeping my options open (which is definitely not correct). did you explain the read on me and hts? and how do you define my read on you as forced, it would be forced if i didnt give it out on my own, but i did.
Me explaining or not explaining my read on you or hts is irrelevant. Mainly because i don't give any fucks about explaining my read on hts as i don't read her scum any more. I don't want either of you shot, i want Koshi shot. Therefore i don't talk about things i don't want to talk about.
Your read is forced because of several reasons:
1) you take a small portion of my posts and make a conclusion the rest of my filter contradicts with
2) you claim you know me well, then you should know i explain my reads when i want to and me calling people mafia without explaining it straight away is never going to be a scumtell for me, in fact it is a towntell because (as you know -- as you know me well as you state) a big portion of my play relies on making comments that are intended to make people think and one of the best ways for me to gather reads is to make those statements and see which people actually agree/disagree with me and what their reasons are. Like it's literally the best way for me to gather reads -- especially townreads -- and that is a known fact for anyone who has ever played a game where i have been town in. Yet somehow you don't seem to know that, despite "knowing me so well".
3) you are still trying to argue in favor of your read and everything you bring up is either irrelevant or i have already proved it wrong.
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Like i am making this very simple.
post 1 rayn: "here are some people i think are mafia, X, Y, Z and W."
post 2 rayn: "X is definitely mafia we should kill him"
post 3 your mom: "rayn is mafia because he leaves a door open for having many suspects"
clearly my post #2 here proves your case is wrong. It LITERALLY does so. Now if you had made your case before i made my post #2 your case could be valid. But this is not the case here. The case here is you are ignoring the rest of my posting. It means that you are:
1) misconstruing something i said to look like it's something i didn't in fact do (as i have proven since)
2) not reading the thread properly, not thinking about why i say the stuff i do, and making a half-arsed case onto something that could be seen as inherently scummy
both of those are scum traits.
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LS's posts getting nuked was not part of any game mechanic. I have PMed GMarshal to investigate it. Please refrain from commenting on it until I hear back from him.
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those aren't reasons for my read being forced, it's just your defense. i stand by the point that HTS post on FF looks like an act, and i dont have to read a whole filter if my reasoning is based on posts i already read. anyway, going to be back around 8-9 pm, if im lucky earlier.
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On March 03 2015 19:55 your mom wrote:
those aren't reasons for my read being forced, it's just your defense.
in my opinion they are. in everyone's opinion they should be.
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I've been told that it was an accident. My apologies if DP has already mentioned this.
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For the record i wanna press the device to see what happens, now when if it's a bad thing it doesn't fucking kill us outright.
sandroba suggesting this:
I think a good strat is to guard it until / if town is in a losing spot then press it if it gets to that point.
is scummyscummyscum.....
The only correct way to do this is either figure out what pressing the device does NOW, or destroy it immediately.
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Hi
I voted to press the button. Just wanted to say that.
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you were shot already....
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On March 03 2015 20:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you were shot already....
I didn't see it when I searched my name.
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EPT
