Someone was really looking forward to this game, huh? Hey Trf, nice to see you. Or is it? =l

That's a pretty damn over the top entrance if you ask me. First post is already basically yelling IM TOWN, I WILL SCUMHUNT, MAFIA IM COMING FOR JOO!!

Well shoot, you better, that's the whole point here.

The Shining

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February 15 2015 01:30 GMT

#98

Oh I remember, former teammate. And you led the openings again here. Confidently. Bah.

Its Valentines Day here in the states on a Saturday night. I don't expect posts to pick up until later tonight and tomorrow.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 15 2015 21:38 GMT

#176

Personally, I was against Hiers Bridges as I read it as it would take vote analysis away from me, which along with posting inconsistencies are my strongest scumhunting tools. Most points I would make against it have already been elaborated on so I won't beat a dead horse. Just not for it. That being said, Hier is a very slight townread for me. I don't think scum would put themselves in the spotlight so early with a strategy that unwittingly favors scum.

RSo feels like townRSo. She's in like every game I've played recently, here and elsewhere, and I'm not picking up anything out of the norm. Direct questions and responses, scumhunting, engaging. However, see above for why I think you're wrong about Hier. Does scum, especially in a newbie game, have the balls to suggest something like that?

I could see it being misguided town.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 15 2015 22:22 GMT

#180

Mime and Silver are the obvious policy lurker/inactive lynch but with it being a weekend, and a busy one here in the states(Valentines, NBA All Star Weekend, Presidents Day), I'm not sure I could rightfully policy lynch. Especially with town track record of mislynching D1.

Ely, what in my last post before yours made you think I was hinting at posting more? This post for clarification:

On February 15 2015 10:30 The Shining wrote:
Oh I remember, former teammate. And you led the openings again here. Confidently. Bah.

Its Valentines Day here in the states on a Saturday night. I don't expect posts to pick up until later tonight and tomorrow.

Obviously I did plan on posting more but this post was explaining expected INactivity, not activity. I like that you have given at least basic explanations for your early reads but I'd like to see more of you. What do you think of RSo's Hier push?

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 15 2015 22:24 GMT

#181

EBWOP: not that it matters since I'm not a fan of D1 policy lynches but I didn't see Mimes post when I posted. Silver is the only one not posted yet.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 15 2015 22:32 GMT

#183

Trfel I'm a little biased against because I scummed with him last game and although I do agree with Ely saying him hiding it would have been way more suspicious, controversial start for Trfel seems to not be alignment indicative. Def wouldn't town him for it. And he tried to push discussion last game, too. Null, must see more.

Zlefin has a couple of posts that lead nowhere and weak and unexplained reads. Mentions WIFOM, game voting rules, some parroting. Says Hier and RSo could both be town or both be scum but wont commit to his reads. Seems to be all for policy lynching inactives when there were only 2. How likely is it both scum members are inactive? Likely my leading candidate for a shot at D1 scum lynch.

On that note, TSM VS CLG is starting so I'll be back in an hour ish if anyone has questions or wants to interact with me.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 15 2015 22:42 GMT

#189

EBWOP: I'm on a tablet. Everything after my first post today I haven't gotten to do more than skim over. The Hier OMGUS is so bad, wow. That plus RSo, yeah, I do agree with you. They do fall under the same WIFOM. I'm bad at WIFOM if you haven't already noticed. =/

K srsly I'm missing my League match. I'll be back.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 15 2015 22:46 GMT

#191

Hier, need reads from you on someone other than RSo.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 16 2015 00:05 GMT

#214

RSo Trfel slight banding together. Noted. Time to find what you two are seeing in each other that I'm not.

Mime welcome to the thread. Don't be scared, we don't bite. Except RSo. Lol.

Could you elaborate on your post? Which of my reads did you take into account?

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 16 2015 00:06 GMT

#215

EBWOP: OK...ignore my welcome to the thread...

Jesus RSo. ROFL.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 16 2015 00:07 GMT

#216

Um, is no one going to even remotely address my slight push on Zlefin? Odd.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 16 2015 00:45 GMT

#224

By all means, take your time. You played in the only 2 games I've played here, you know how bad I can be at responding. I understand. Thankfully its freezing here in NY so work is quiet enough for me to be on here.

Thank you for answering me too, Ely. You parroted thoughts on it being a pressure vote. Looking forward to seeing your Hier response analysis.

Hier, I dove RSo in response to your push to see how much weight your case holds. And eh. She is adamant about her read on you. She evolved from null to tonal town on Trfel. JJB was questioned, red flagged for something, immediately rescinded once it was explained. Looks like scumhunting and more than just nulls to me.

Your oracle reply was nice and witty, too. So you have no other reads as they haven't come to completion yet? We have at least 5 pages of active posts. I find it a bit hard to believe.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 16 2015 00:57 GMT

#227

JJB seems to be the only one even remotely open to the Bridges method, provided proof that it would actually help town win. I do think it would've been better if it was actually explained how this would better town to win. As of right now, it has only caused confusion and chaos, which is unfortunately a scum tactic. And besides RSo, no one is really willing to push him yet. I need to see him come back to the thread.

And watch JJB and Trfel closely. RSo's case is pretty convincing, imo. Trfel decided to post a wall of text solely addressing a method that is almost surely at this point not going to happen. In all that time, you could've read a filter, made a case, something other than that long post that told me absolutely nothing. Anyone other than Hier posting that much about it is a bit troublesome.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 16 2015 00:59 GMT

#229

EBWOP this is like the third time I post something and a post RIGHT before it makes it wrong. Damn I can't wait to get home. That first line saying JJB seems to be the only one even remotely entertaining the Hier theory was before I saw the post where he thinks its a bad idea.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 16 2015 03:11 GMT

#242

JJB if you're most worried at first glance about Zf and myself, ask yourself this:

Would I bus my partner D1 while no one but me is pressuring him? He's my top scumread with what's been put into the thread so far. And it might be WIFOM to think I'd light pressure him so that if he does ever flip scum, it'd buy me town cred. But if that was the case, I wouldn't have later commented on the fact that no one else commented on my Zfelin case. I forced it. Scum Shining would just leave it be and if he does flip, I'd be able to go "oh look I called that D1."

So I'm now waiting on Hiers defense, JJbs top scumread and Ely to swing by with a little more than that. I'm assuming you (ElyAs) dozing off now means you'll revisit the RSo Hier exchange with fresh eyes in the morning? BEFORE EoD?

For what its worth, Ely's last post was just a summary of the Hier Rso exchange, a parrot of my questioning Hiers lack of other leads, and an excuse for not giving us more.

Trfel, I really truly hate walls of text. I saw you do it as scum and so did I. I'd scum you for that entire post if I didn't actually read it lmao. And I made that point in the hopes that it would inspire you to do so, Trfel, so I'm glad you obliged. You can see how I was setting it up to see if you were really going to catch up or afk it. And eh, in a game where everyone is on opposite ends of the activity spectrum(very actively posting or lurking along, no mid ground), I feel its my best shot. Policy lynch talk and weak reads and no other talk of lynches shows a disinterest...I know I'd be a bit disinterested if I rolled scum in a newbie game.

Oh wait, I did. And I was. Last game. Lol.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 16 2015 03:11 GMT

#243

...shining says he hates walls of text.

Shining posts wall of text.

Lmao I'm scum reading myself gg

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 16 2015 03:14 GMT

#244

EBWOP: JARJAR CAN YOU STOP POSTING RIGHT BEFORE ME LMFAO

I guess the first part of my last post doesn't apply but you can still answer, I'd like that.