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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 06:06 GMT
#1041
Thanks a bunch, The Shining!

You didn't have to analyze them, that was what I was going to do XD

I already went through Silverarte's case. While it's not horrible, I disagree with most of it. One part that I feel would be useful to cover is the sentiment that Tere has been asking for a lot of reads without providing her own. That argument could be made until she posted those massive Walls of Text. Tere has obviously been working hard and contributing a ton, even if you (foolishly) discount her filter length as a bunch of 1-liners.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 19 2015 06:14 GMT
#1042
Tere is obviously towning herself as the towniest town to ever town.

JJB - Leaned town on Tere early, citing tonal similarities between her and RSo. After the NK, tried to distance himself from Tere, said he should've treated her how he treated myself and Trfel.

Actually, I need to stop here. JJB, inconsistencies are my thing. You scummed me early and didn't rescind it until that post. And yet...almost an hour before that post, am I wrong in assuming you were still leaning scum on me?

On February 17 2015 04:11 jarjarbinks wrote:
##Vote Zlefin


You voted with one of your top scumread BEFORE you townread me. Did you realize that after the fact, realize you messed up and switched to a town read on me hoping no one would notice?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 19 2015 06:16 GMT
#1043
Umm I townread you right after I scumread you... lol
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 06:16 GMT
#1044
Jarjarbinks, did you see my question earlier? Can you please link the post where you scumread The Shining?
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 19 2015 06:17 GMT
#1045
But you voted Zlefin after I did but at least an hour before townreading me. What am I missing here?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 06:18 GMT
#1046
On February 19 2015 15:17 The Shining wrote:
But you voted Zlefin after I did but at least an hour before townreading me. What am I missing here?
This is really, really, really interesting.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 06:20 GMT
#1047
On February 19 2015 15:18 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 15:17 The Shining wrote:
But you voted Zlefin after I did but at least an hour before townreading me. What am I missing here?
This is really, really, really interesting.
Actually, never mind, this isn't true?
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 19 2015 06:21 GMT
#1048
SCRATCH THAT, SCRATCH THAT.

I should've clicked quote on both posts and posted them here before I said anything. I didn't realize times change from local to TL Time when quoting.

On February 16 2015 12:00 jarjarbinks wrote:
I retract my position on the shining. Has scumhunted/given reads a lot. I like a lot of the posts too. Solid filter, despite not having many posts. Probably one of my strongest townreads right now.



On February 17 2015 04:11 jarjarbinks wrote:
##Vote Zlefin


I got confused on the times, please ignore that.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 19 2015 06:22 GMT
#1049
Silver's posts until tonight were very forgettable. The cases she had on others didn't really provide me new information. I think most of the cases on her already have been made were pretty spot on besides the 1 for 2 bullet question on Tere.

I think the most we are going to get from here is this last portion she posted lately. Definitely a lot of effort for Scumreading Tere, which is interesting because the general consensus at the time was slowly towning Tere.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 06:23 GMT
#1050
On February 16 2015 11:39 jarjarbinks wrote:
Initially I would be worried about Zfelin and Shining (although I really liked Shining's last post about me and Trf)
This is all that I see for jarjarbinks scumreading The Shining. Terrible read.
On February 16 2015 12:00 jarjarbinks wrote:
I retract my position on the shining. Has scumhunted/given reads a lot. I like a lot of the posts too. Solid filter, despite not having many posts. Probably one of my strongest townreads right now.
And it was retracted 21 minutes later.
On February 17 2015 04:11 jarjarbinks wrote:
##Vote Zlefin
Jarjarbinks voted for zlefin the next day. Significantly later.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 19 2015 06:23 GMT
#1051
Do you still want me to go find the quotes? I can if you want, I am trying to go through silver's stuff though.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 19 2015 06:24 GMT
#1052
Trfel - This is the only post before he town reads me that I could find. Bolded where it counts.

On February 16 2015 11:39 jarjarbinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 10:38 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2015 09:58 jarjarbinks wrote:
I am curious to see where Zfelin's and Elyas's reads are right now. Has the last few pages changed things?

Rsoultin: if say no one joined your bandwagon, do you have anyone else you are suspicious of?


Yes lol. We still have about 24 hours, and some of the participating players I haven't looked into very closely yet. Also, angry Rso? ;o; I'm just animated.

If you think Hier is town solely for his creation, who do you think is scum, JJB?


lol angry because you scared away the newbie!

Hmm you have a point there. I don't have a legitimate scumread that I would be confident in voting on right now. Let me go reread and see if I can pick up something xD Initially I would be worried about Zfelin and Shining (although I really liked Shining's last post about me and Trf). Silver still hasn't posted, so hopefully that happens soon. I didn't like Trf's pocket comment/joke (was it a joke?). While I thought that making a weird strategy was townie, it would be nice for Hiel to answer all of the questions people asked him.

I have like Elyas's posts so far to a degree. Much better than my first game on here that's for sure lol


Very soft scum lean, even mentions liking my last post as he does so. He was skeptical of attaching himself to a scum lean on me from get-go and after my posts, went full town. I think I can see where his read progressed, too.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 19 2015 06:24 GMT
#1053
Lol I see you already have xD
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 06:24 GMT
#1054
In case some silly person decides to scumread The Shining for it, there is no possible way he would get away with that as mafia. Just an honest mistake. About the times changing, he is 100% right, that tricked me for a moment too.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 19 2015 06:25 GMT
#1055
Ninjad. Trfel got the read before I did lol. And yeah, I posted the times, too, I sincerely apologize for the vote mixup. Really thought I was onto something for a moment.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 06:26 GMT
#1056
This makes me a little bit more suspicious of jarjarbinks and Tere. Jarjarbinks for making such a terrible read, and Tere for townreading jarjarbinks for quickly retracting the read... when the read is that miserable, it takes no effort to retract.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 06:28 GMT
#1057
On February 19 2015 15:26 Trfel wrote:
This makes me a little bit more suspicious of jarjarbinks and Tere. Jarjarbinks for making such a terrible read, and Tere for townreading jarjarbinks for quickly retracting the read... when the read is that miserable, it takes no effort to retract.
On second thought, I take this back. Tere's thinking actually makes a lot of sense here.

I'm probably going to go to sleep really soon.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 19 2015 06:37 GMT
#1058
Her big post is very large xD It is also very easy to find in her filter so I'm making the judgement call and not quoting it lol

Summary part I won't go through because it doesn't require much thought to summarize a person's filter. MOst of us have read and are reading Tere's filter anyways.

"Inbetween this long awaited series of analysis and during it, reads on me are generally pleasant and wonderful. She's also prolific with her calls on "Don't judge me for what my actions are". Now, if we aren't judging based on actions and votes, what do we judge on?"

I found this kind of weak lol I'm interpreting this to be a comment on Tere saying "don't claim based off this" quotes. If the comment was on her vote, the play was questionable and talked about on here already. I don't think Tere was trying to say to not look at her votes.

"Now, her filter was rather prolific today which is great! Except...all of a sudden, there is a switch in tone on those votes. We go from hunting down other targets, to hunting down me based on Trfel's analysis. Rather than going with your initial votes and feels, you switched and trailed on with Trfel (which I was accused of doing)"

I think this was original (Shining might have mentioned this point earlier, please correct me if I'm wrong lol). I don't think Tere did just focus on Silver based on Trfel's analysis though. Her primary scum read was Shining and she stuck with it. Her case on silver wasn't the best, so I could see her taking Trfel's point on Silver and looking at her more. It's what town should do in that situation.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 19 2015 06:38 GMT
#1059
On February 19 2015 15:24 Trfel wrote:
In case some silly person decides to scumread The Shining for it, there is no possible way he would get away with that as mafia. Just an honest mistake. About the times changing, he is 100% right, that tricked me for a moment too.


Your cool it happens. If you were right that would have been an important point lol
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 19 2015 06:38 GMT
#1060
As am I. I hate to say it but diving/skimming everyone for their stances on Tere kind of took it out of me. Also I forgot Zlefin.

Zlefin - Null on Tere, healthy suspicion but seems to be more set on pushing Ely or Silver.

Speaking of Silver...you got me interested in the exercise I just did with Tere.

As far as I see, Trfel is leaning scum or at least willing to lynch Silver.
Tere dropped her to being scum with me.
Ely and Zlef both see Silver as scummish, as per the lists they posted.
JJB is calling her forgettable up until now, but points out that she did take the effort to scumread Tere, although he is incorrect in saying Tere's being accepted as a townread.

Did you miss the part where we got at eachother? lol. Also, definitive answer for Silver, please. You leaning scum or town?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
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