Is this based solely on the fact he didn't bother to play when Palmar was lynched? Maybe he had a reason to afk? I don't see that much else. I searched in zlefin his filter for the word retard, idiot, fag, bastard and even the word fuck and I came up empty. My search function might be broken but otherwise the guy is pretty well mannered.

I think Palmar was being a meanie.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 02 2015 16:21 GMT

#1782

lol zlefin was refusing to even consider the possibility that palmar/tere may not be scum, and said he wasn't going to put the effort in to solve a game that was already solved

as a replacement into a slot (that was pretty objectively townie, I might add) i'd find it more strange if Palmar wasn't frustrated by an attitude like that ^^

but yes, Palmar is overall a meanie -beats palmar with a wet noodle-

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

March 02 2015 16:29 GMT

#1783

I didn't see what Palmar said as over the line at all really. Getting lynched while other players refuse to play sucks.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

March 02 2015 16:30 GMT

#1784

Well. Ignoring them and sticking to your read is acceptable. Palmar probably got used to the fact we tend to discuss our scumreads with our scumreads for 15 pages just to come to the conclusion they are really scum. When they sometimes (read: a lot) aren't

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 02 2015 16:33 GMT

#1785

lol I tend to agree with you, koshi

doesn't make it any less frustrating to be on the other end of it though

justanothertownie

16343 Posts

March 02 2015 17:19 GMT

#1786

On March 03 2015 01:15 Koshi wrote:

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Is this based solely on the fact he didn't bother to play when Palmar was lynched? Maybe he had a reason to afk? I don't see that much else. I searched in zlefin his filter for the word retard, idiot, fag, bastard and even the word fuck and I came up empty. My search function might be broken but otherwise the guy is pretty well mannered.

I think Palmar was being a meanie.

Pretty much. It is no problem to be wrong even if the answer is really obvious but to just flat out refuse to play the game and consider what the replacement (who was very towny - and more importantly tried to work with zlefin - and replaced a very towny player) has to say for no apparent reason is what I call being an asshole.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 02 2015 17:33 GMT

#1787

On March 03 2015 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:

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well obviously they do/did not feel like it...
But no matter what they should not feel offended.

justanothertownie

16343 Posts

March 02 2015 18:02 GMT

#1788

On March 03 2015 02:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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well obviously they do/did not feel like it...
But no matter what they should not feel offended.

Exactly. Of course it is absolutely allowed to act like this but to complain about getting called out for it afterwards is pretty rich.

zlefin

United States7689 Posts

March 02 2015 20:46 GMT

#1789

I see a number of people lying and calling tere/palmar objectively townie. That is simply untrue, or there wouldn't have been so much suspicion. As to the rest, I leave it to the mods.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

March 04 2015 07:19 GMT

#1790

I want to sincerely apologise Shining for my absence in the coaching qt. It was carnival here and I had some IRL stuff that kept me away from my PC. I am very, very sorry for it. Also, congratulations on your read on JJB.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 04 2015 09:46 GMT

#1791

On March 03 2015 05:46 zlefin wrote:
I see a number of people lying and calling tere/palmar objectively townie. That is simply untrue, or there wouldn't have been so much suspicion. As to the rest, I leave it to the mods.

Lol normally I agree that if someone is widely scumread they're not objectively town, but frankly...there was nothing objective about tere and trfel scumming one another. Tere clearly had made it personal, and trfel tilted super bad after Tere's case, classic OMGUS.

I don't blame town for it. Should you have probably reassessed instead of refusing to? Yeah. That's just good play. However, when you've got a strong townread tunneling someone it's natural to side with them so -shrugs-

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

March 04 2015 23:20 GMT

#1792

On March 04 2015 16:19 GlowingBear wrote:
I want to sincerely apologise Shining for my absence in the coaching qt. It was carnival here and I had some IRL stuff that kept me away from my PC. I am very, very sorry for it. Also, congratulations on your read on JJB.

RL stuff is always first, especially if its Carnival =P I hold no grudge or ill will at all, thank you for helping out when you could and giving me some good tips.

And thanks for the grats but town still lost </3 I think someone mentioned it before but being right is only half the battle lol

Smancer

United States379 Posts

March 18 2015 14:39 GMT

#1793

Going back and reading this game from start to finish, The Shinings call of JarJar was one of the best I have seen. I played a game a while back, but have mostly just been reading them once they are done for entertainment.

And it is not so much that he pointed the finger at JJB, there were clues like the bad filter, non-commitments etc, but the timing which he made the case, When there seemed to be an inevitable lynch of Tere (Palmer) is what made it outstanding.

What surprised me, is at that point, that no town suggest to just lynch Tere then Trfel the next day pending flip. The friction between those two outshined anything else that was going on in the thread.

But now I have seen it a couple times, where if you have two very active and outspoken personalities heatedly going at each others throats, the most likely scenario is that the both are town, and scum is just lurking in the background.

gg. Makes me want to sign up for a game again.