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Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 18 2015 23:48 GMT
#901
On February 19 2015 08:35 jarjarbinks wrote:
Shining you aren't actually quitting right? We've already had 1 replacement. Think about the other players in this game.


I don't believe he is quitting.
ElyAs
Profile Joined December 2009
France205 Posts
February 18 2015 23:49 GMT
#902
EBWOP : first paragraph was directed at The Shining.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 18 2015 23:50 GMT
#903
On February 19 2015 08:39 The Shining wrote:
I'm still posting. I'm still active. I'm diving filters right now, just like I said I would in my last post. If I find something more damning than the fact that Tere is now towning my supposed scum partner and one of her top scumreads(ElyAs) who just happened to be one of my top scumreads and basically picking off low hanging fruit one by one to see who is the easiest mislynch(Zlefin, Ely, me in rapid succession, I just happened to be the only one willing to call her out on her scattershot suspicions), then I'll share it.


so are you cool to gladiate me tomorrow then?

I think it will be 1 for 1.

That hurts scum.

I know I am town.

Want to play?

Are you that confident?
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 18 2015 23:52 GMT
#904
Can you set a poll up in this place? Just curious?

Otherwise, straw poll, everyone want me to gladiate The Shining?

(this doesn't let you off my homework of find two other scum candidates apart from me. Just saying )
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 18 2015 23:52 GMT
#905
If that's the consensus, I'm totally up for it

Sleep now
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 18 2015 23:52 GMT
#906
I'm 100% confident I am town. I am at 75 and rising on your scumread. For my clarification, what exactly do you mean by gladiate?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 18 2015 23:53 GMT
#907
You and me, baby, bring it. No other lynch targets.

That confident of your scumread?

Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 18 2015 23:54 GMT
#908
I'm willing to die for a one for one, what about you?
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 18 2015 23:56 GMT
#909
On February 19 2015 06:05 Tere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 01:27 ElyAs wrote:
You know what Tere ? I'm sold on you being town, and I really hope I'm right.

When I red your posts and Trfel's snap vote, I skipped a beat because I was starting to townread you and saw one of my townreads vote for you. I'm kinda relieved by Trfel's follow-up.

I know I'm not in the best of lights right now, and I'm gonna try to step up my game to find a good case, I owe it to jarjar and Trfel because their posts gave me a little bit of confidence.

I got an hour to allocate to this game right now and I'll try to use it well. (It is really a time consuming game !)


This post feels as towny as fuck to me. It's enough to move him off my autolynch pile - before this I was going to place a vote as the best option. It comes from a real place of emotion that is horribly hard to fake, IMO.

Moving Elyas up my town - scum pile towards town. Lurkers beware


Are you able to explain to me how this post could be only coming from a town perspective? There's a disclaimer for only having a certain amount of time, leaving an open door in case an uncomfortable question gets asked. And an appeal to emotion instead of an actual reaction to your post.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 18 2015 23:57 GMT
#910
On February 19 2015 08:48 Tere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 08:30 jarjarbinks wrote:
On February 19 2015 08:21 Tere wrote:
Yes, but I need to go to bed soon. What do you need?

(what I need from you is to reach out to us. I think I get where you are coming from but it's liking parsing Earth to Martian. If you can't speak your language to talk to me, pretend I'm your sister, that was very insightful, not perfect but a reasonable base to start from)

I'll get a cup of coffee. You are my second strongest townread right now so what do you need from me?


Your filter is ridicously long since last night lol which is definatley a good thing. Hard for scum to BS for an entire day lol

I think you ended up on silver and shining. Silver hasn't posted yet, and you got in a piss argument. Do you see them as a possible scumteam? Two lurkers seems off for a scumteam, but it is possible. IF they can't be a scumteam, would you pick one over the other? I'm thinking silver over Shining, although both of their behaviors are similar to the games I have played with them in.

Do you feel like you might be tunneling Shining?


I think you've gotten muddled up, both those people have posted since then. Silver has posted a WOT that I don't feel is strong. The Shining has aggroed on me. If I am honest I wouldn't say either of them were lurkers, per se,

I wouldn't say I'm tunnelling Shining right now. I haven't constructed a case yet - I am leaving that quite deliberately. As the person who entered Day 2 with the most scum reads, I shouldn't be generating cases right now.

What I want to do now is sleep and give people room to post for 8-12 hours. I have opinions, but I would rather people came to independent conclusions. It's easy for scum to refute conclusions, less easy to drive their own agenda.

Having said that, I'd love a loose read from you once you've combed through everything. You are a town read, but your thought processes are somewhat alien to me. I need to understand where you are coming from more I think. Night night


They have posted, but I figured the posts they made changed your view on them lol Silver posted once and left and Shining is still tunneled on you so I figured your opinion of him prob got worse if anything else.

I've got some work to do on here. I haven't given a thorough enough read on silver and she deserves one.
Silverarte
Profile Joined December 2014
115 Posts
February 19 2015 00:00 GMT
#911
On February 19 2015 08:57 jarjarbinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 08:48 Tere wrote:
On February 19 2015 08:30 jarjarbinks wrote:
On February 19 2015 08:21 Tere wrote:
Yes, but I need to go to bed soon. What do you need?

(what I need from you is to reach out to us. I think I get where you are coming from but it's liking parsing Earth to Martian. If you can't speak your language to talk to me, pretend I'm your sister, that was very insightful, not perfect but a reasonable base to start from)

I'll get a cup of coffee. You are my second strongest townread right now so what do you need from me?


Your filter is ridicously long since last night lol which is definatley a good thing. Hard for scum to BS for an entire day lol

I think you ended up on silver and shining. Silver hasn't posted yet, and you got in a piss argument. Do you see them as a possible scumteam? Two lurkers seems off for a scumteam, but it is possible. IF they can't be a scumteam, would you pick one over the other? I'm thinking silver over Shining, although both of their behaviors are similar to the games I have played with them in.

Do you feel like you might be tunneling Shining?


I think you've gotten muddled up, both those people have posted since then. Silver has posted a WOT that I don't feel is strong. The Shining has aggroed on me. If I am honest I wouldn't say either of them were lurkers, per se,

I wouldn't say I'm tunnelling Shining right now. I haven't constructed a case yet - I am leaving that quite deliberately. As the person who entered Day 2 with the most scum reads, I shouldn't be generating cases right now.

What I want to do now is sleep and give people room to post for 8-12 hours. I have opinions, but I would rather people came to independent conclusions. It's easy for scum to refute conclusions, less easy to drive their own agenda.

Having said that, I'd love a loose read from you once you've combed through everything. You are a town read, but your thought processes are somewhat alien to me. I need to understand where you are coming from more I think. Night night


They have posted, but I figured the posts they made changed your view on them lol Silver posted once and left and Shining is still tunneled on you so I figured your opinion of him prob got worse if anything else.

I've got some work to do on here. I haven't given a thorough enough read on silver and she deserves one.

Silver is still lurking like she said she would be. She's also just working on what she said she would be.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 19 2015 00:07 GMT
#912
On February 19 2015 08:54 Tere wrote:
I'm willing to die for a one for one, what about you?


I'm reading "I'm willing to win the game for scum right now" if you are in fact town. I already stated earlier I don't care about me being mislynched anymore. My vote is on you. If town is onboard, they vote with me. Or they vote against me. When I flip town, they'll want to lynch you until you manage to WOT your way out of it and win for scum.

I'll even go first, if that's what you want. Of course, town votes decide it. I just need the townies here to promise me they will reevaluate what little I have been able to give them after I flip.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 19 2015 00:08 GMT
#913
On February 19 2015 09:00 Silverarte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 08:57 jarjarbinks wrote:
On February 19 2015 08:48 Tere wrote:
On February 19 2015 08:30 jarjarbinks wrote:
On February 19 2015 08:21 Tere wrote:
Yes, but I need to go to bed soon. What do you need?

(what I need from you is to reach out to us. I think I get where you are coming from but it's liking parsing Earth to Martian. If you can't speak your language to talk to me, pretend I'm your sister, that was very insightful, not perfect but a reasonable base to start from)

I'll get a cup of coffee. You are my second strongest townread right now so what do you need from me?


Your filter is ridicously long since last night lol which is definatley a good thing. Hard for scum to BS for an entire day lol

I think you ended up on silver and shining. Silver hasn't posted yet, and you got in a piss argument. Do you see them as a possible scumteam? Two lurkers seems off for a scumteam, but it is possible. IF they can't be a scumteam, would you pick one over the other? I'm thinking silver over Shining, although both of their behaviors are similar to the games I have played with them in.

Do you feel like you might be tunneling Shining?


I think you've gotten muddled up, both those people have posted since then. Silver has posted a WOT that I don't feel is strong. The Shining has aggroed on me. If I am honest I wouldn't say either of them were lurkers, per se,

I wouldn't say I'm tunnelling Shining right now. I haven't constructed a case yet - I am leaving that quite deliberately. As the person who entered Day 2 with the most scum reads, I shouldn't be generating cases right now.

What I want to do now is sleep and give people room to post for 8-12 hours. I have opinions, but I would rather people came to independent conclusions. It's easy for scum to refute conclusions, less easy to drive their own agenda.

Having said that, I'd love a loose read from you once you've combed through everything. You are a town read, but your thought processes are somewhat alien to me. I need to understand where you are coming from more I think. Night night


They have posted, but I figured the posts they made changed your view on them lol Silver posted once and left and Shining is still tunneled on you so I figured your opinion of him prob got worse if anything else.

I've got some work to do on here. I haven't given a thorough enough read on silver and she deserves one.

Silver is still lurking like she said she would be. She's also just working on what she said she would be.


Silver, that's incredibly lame. Woman up.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 00:10 GMT
#914
I'm glad to see that there were several pages while I was gone. I'm still reading, but I wanted to drop in and say this.

Tere, do you mind if I don't respond to your post? My impression of what you are asking me to do is exactly what I am attempting to do. I feel like I am having a hard time communicating my true intent with you (probably my fault, not yours), so I'm not sure that responding would help anything. Though if you do want me to respond, of course I can do so, I'm just not sure that it would help with anything.

Oh, and zlefin, I hope you won't mind if I don't list my reads like that, just because I don't like quantifying or categorizing my reads. But as of Page 44, Silverarte seems to be the best lynch.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 19 2015 00:11 GMT
#915
Oh boy Trfel, you're in for a great surprise.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 00:11 GMT
#916
On February 19 2015 09:11 The Shining wrote:
Oh boy Trfel, you're in for a great surprise.
Good or bad?

Did the scum concede?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 00:13 GMT
#917
Wait, we're only allowed to lynch Tere or The Shining?

Do I get in a say in this? I think both are town. And I don't want to lynch town.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 19 2015 00:14 GMT
#918
Please don't throw the game for the sake of argument and ego....
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 19 2015 00:15 GMT
#919
On February 17 2015 13:27 Silverarte wrote:
Hmm, ok. So I'm going to start posting this stuff up as I get my thoughts in order (and hopefully without random copy/paste cut offs!)

Let's see. I'll post up thoughts on Tere first! (Then Tere, I'll give you my thoughts for everyone since I did see you asked for that as well as Trfel. Also, by the way? HILARIOUS gifs! Loved coming back to those.)

ALright, so back to the read on Tere here.

-Jump on the bandwagon with Hier. Later, seems relatively unaffected considering all the effort placed here. Note, I'm not going to stare sideways too much for that one with Hier. That was a lynch gone bad, or so it felt to me with the way Hier was reacting.
-Scumread list definitely is skewed to the most experienced players at the top (I did peek at your post Trfel before popping this up - darn you for being faster than me this round!), but I feel Zlefin may not be a bad read where she placed him. I think at this point, I'd really like to see what Tere has to say here.
-I think my biggest issue where Tere is, really is in the communication with Hier, the scum reading and then yes, the counter wagon that was met with little to no attempts. But, this could be attributed to tunneling. I just think a lot of effort went into this here, with little attempts to other things she said. It does come off as contradicting itself.


I agree with suspicion here, but I'm not sure Tere is an immediate lynch. Like I said, I'd really like to see what Tere has to say and go from there. I'm suspicious, but I some of the others catch my eye a bit more. I'm not all that unconvinced that you are on the wrong track, Trfel.


Is this true? Do you actually have stronger scumreads? Is it just Zlefin or were you just saying that to make your say without leaving too much of a mark? Give that slight scumread and then lurk away?
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 19 2015 00:18 GMT
#920
On February 19 2015 09:07 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 08:54 Tere wrote:
I'm willing to die for a one for one, what about you?


I'm reading "I'm willing to win the game for scum right now" if you are in fact town. I already stated earlier I don't care about me being mislynched anymore. My vote is on you. If town is onboard, they vote with me. Or they vote against me. When I flip town, they'll want to lynch you until you manage to WOT your way out of it and win for scum.

I'll even go first, if that's what you want. Of course, town votes decide it. I just need the townies here to promise me they will reevaluate what little I have been able to give them after I flip.


OK. Either you are obvscum or completely misguided town at this point. I'm kinda insulted if you can read my play in any way as throwing the game for scum. Seriously. Something something (insert strong language as appropriate).

If you are town, and that is what you are thinking and you think scum has won the argument, you need to wake up, stop sulking, get back to base , and stop sulking.

Because, regardless of your perception, I'm on your side. Really. If your wincon is to win with town, I'm on your side. You don't have to trust me with this, but I need you to have a mode that can consider it...

i'm town, and reaching out to you here. I think you are a smart and capable guy, I've read your town games, you are town to be proud of associating with. Don't check out. I'm on your side, and reaching out to you here. Don't lock down, OK? You can analyse me and decide I'm full of shit, but don't check out right now.

I want town to win too. Come talk to me. You don't have to trust me right now (and I do need to sleep, it's bedtime here) but I want you to take some time out, take a deep breath, and if you are town, and want town to win, you need to come talk to me, OK? Because you are either locking down caught scum or passionate town without a lock and I have NFI right now.

Just talk to me. I'm not Circe. There's no game mechanic to turn you into a pig. What harm can there be, right?

Time out. I need to sleep. Talk to me, OK?
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