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Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 18 2015 22:45 GMT
#881
No seriously.

I don't mind you making the play at all, but if it's a play you need to man the fuck up and explain it when it ends. Don't be a dickhead.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 18 2015 22:49 GMT
#882
Language. That's just rude. I'll take the doubles, though, lol. Can't wait.

Don't see whose character or skill I was attacking, either. Simply stating in the only 2 Newbie games I've played, there have been replacements. It has ruined my experience, personally, so I will not participate in one again. Have to stick to Student/non-Newbie games. Its just a statistic.

A lot of salt coming from you. Guilt getting to you?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 18 2015 22:50 GMT
#883
Well regardless if its a play or not, your saltiness and personal affront to it pretty much makes it moot, now, doesn't it?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 18 2015 22:51 GMT
#884
And you reacting at all is funny. A townie would've said "well screw it clear scum" and moved on after lynching me, instead of being willing to go head to head with me in the thread and fill it up with tit for tat.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
ElyAs
Profile Joined December 2009
France205 Posts
February 18 2015 22:58 GMT
#885
Wow. that's a lot of frustration. I've got a headache trying to figure out if you're doing this because you're scum and have nothing to lose or if you're town and frustrated to the bone.

Right now you're just promoting chaos and I don't like that.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 18 2015 23:06 GMT
#886
On February 19 2015 07:49 The Shining wrote:
Language. That's just rude. I'll take the doubles, though, lol. Can't wait.

Don't see whose character or skill I was attacking, either. Simply stating in the only 2 Newbie games I've played, there have been replacements. It has ruined my experience, personally, so I will not participate in one again. Have to stick to Student/non-Newbie games. Its just a statistic.

A lot of salt coming from you. Guilt getting to you?


No, I'll troll you 6 ways to Sunday if you leg it though.

If you are town, go find scum, sensibly. I don't accept AFKs for lame reasons. Chop chop. Don't make me bring out my probably not safe for work gifs relating to that. Nobody will be the winner
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 18 2015 23:07 GMT
#887
I'm still letting everyone else peck your liver though (that's a classical reference, counteracts swearing, right?)

Sleeping now nn town and scum xx
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 18 2015 23:09 GMT
#888
Read up from last night. I'll answer questions and then go to comments.

Tere you still up?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 18 2015 23:21 GMT
#889
Tere has been issued a behavioral warning. Lets all play nice please. Thank you! ^_^
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 18 2015 23:21 GMT
#890
Yes, but I need to go to bed soon. What do you need?

(what I need from you is to reach out to us. I think I get where you are coming from but it's liking parsing Earth to Martian. If you can't speak your language to talk to me, pretend I'm your sister, that was very insightful, not perfect but a reasonable base to start from)

I'll get a cup of coffee. You are my second strongest townread right now so what do you need from me?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 18 2015 23:26 GMT
#891
On February 19 2015 07:03 zlefin wrote:
I've for the most part (aside from the couple posts mentioned a short while ago) liked Tere's responses of late, so I'm giving her a town point;

here's where my point totals are now:
Trfel 0/2
Shining 1/1
rsoultin 1/1 dead town N1
elyas -1/1
jarjar -1/3
tere -1/3
hier 0/2 dead town D1
silver -1/1

as a reminder, not all points area created equal, it simply means I at one time or another had a feel one way or another. Some feels are stronger than others, and I haven't yet figured out a system for letting points decay over time, or if I even should have points decay over time.

I'm going to put this in another format:

Townish: Shining
Neutral: Trfel, Jarjar, tere
Scummish: elyas, silver


Question for everyone: In terms of the above 3 categories (townish, neutral, or scummish) how would you classify each other remaining player?
If you could format it similarly to above, so it's easier to read and compare them, please do so.

Jarjar, you seem to like data and tables, would having that data from each player be helpful to you, given that they're merely statements and not votes?


Sorry zfelin, I can't pick up what your asking here lol Are you saying your datas and tables is helpful to me? It is helpful. My primary concern with it is with the data part (the part you put points to) is bolded, but we can talk about that after game if you like. Adding the table underneath that helps me understand a little bit which points are more important than others.

What you have done since the beginning of N1 has definitely helped me understand what you are thinking. Thanks for that.

You didn't ask for a read, but I do think you are more towny since I voted for you EOD in D1. You responded well to a couple people's criticism and scumreading which is good (doesn't help your alignment too much, but it does help town scumhunt by keeping their focus off of you for bad reasons) Some of your points have been pretty good (after D1), especially from a 1st timer perspective. I like what I'm seeing. You are also asking questions that promote discussion which is also good. Your scumreads make sense.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 18 2015 23:27 GMT
#892
[ I swear like a sailor. Nobody should run away, nobody should feel they can't post, this is a game and we are here to have fun. I will try to moderate my language, this will probably lead to hilarious alternatives that you should feel free to mock me for

I don't do ad homimem. I will righteously burn a lame argument with fire, but I don't ad hominmem a person. If anyone feels I am doing that they can either a) call me out in thread, in which case I apologise b) I am open to PMs but it's a no PM game, if you want to do that I am cool with that but it's really up to the mods. Or set up a QT and me and the mods can all hang in there and we can discuss.

Or save it up and we can do in postgame.

I genuinely am not a honeybadger, I really don't want anyone to quit this game because of anything I am doing. My door is open, OK?

(I make most excellent macaroons, I can bring them to the post game party )
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 18 2015 23:30 GMT
#893
[I forgot the bit where you can PM the GMs and they can tell me to STFU Tere. That's cool too.

Seriously, guys, life is too short. Let's have fun together. I don't want anyone to have sadmafia, OK? sadmafia is not cool]

back to your regular programming.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 18 2015 23:30 GMT
#894
On February 19 2015 08:21 Tere wrote:
Yes, but I need to go to bed soon. What do you need?

(what I need from you is to reach out to us. I think I get where you are coming from but it's liking parsing Earth to Martian. If you can't speak your language to talk to me, pretend I'm your sister, that was very insightful, not perfect but a reasonable base to start from)

I'll get a cup of coffee. You are my second strongest townread right now so what do you need from me?


Your filter is ridicously long since last night lol which is definatley a good thing. Hard for scum to BS for an entire day lol

I think you ended up on silver and shining. Silver hasn't posted yet, and you got in a piss argument. Do you see them as a possible scumteam? Two lurkers seems off for a scumteam, but it is possible. IF they can't be a scumteam, would you pick one over the other? I'm thinking silver over Shining, although both of their behaviors are similar to the games I have played with them in.

Do you feel like you might be tunneling Shining?
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 18 2015 23:31 GMT
#895
Pointless post is pointless. GB2GT.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 18 2015 23:33 GMT
#896
On February 19 2015 07:58 ElyAs wrote:
Wow. that's a lot of frustration. I've got a headache trying to figure out if you're doing this because you're scum and have nothing to lose or if you're town and frustrated to the bone.

Right now you're just promoting chaos and I don't like that.


Which do you think it is?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 18 2015 23:35 GMT
#897
Shining you aren't actually quitting right? We've already had 1 replacement. Think about the other players in this game.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 18 2015 23:39 GMT
#898
I'm still posting. I'm still active. I'm diving filters right now, just like I said I would in my last post. If I find something more damning than the fact that Tere is now towning my supposed scum partner and one of her top scumreads(ElyAs) who just happened to be one of my top scumreads and basically picking off low hanging fruit one by one to see who is the easiest mislynch(Zlefin, Ely, me in rapid succession, I just happened to be the only one willing to call her out on her scattershot suspicions), then I'll share it.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 18 2015 23:48 GMT
#899
On February 19 2015 08:30 jarjarbinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 08:21 Tere wrote:
Yes, but I need to go to bed soon. What do you need?

(what I need from you is to reach out to us. I think I get where you are coming from but it's liking parsing Earth to Martian. If you can't speak your language to talk to me, pretend I'm your sister, that was very insightful, not perfect but a reasonable base to start from)

I'll get a cup of coffee. You are my second strongest townread right now so what do you need from me?


Your filter is ridicously long since last night lol which is definatley a good thing. Hard for scum to BS for an entire day lol

I think you ended up on silver and shining. Silver hasn't posted yet, and you got in a piss argument. Do you see them as a possible scumteam? Two lurkers seems off for a scumteam, but it is possible. IF they can't be a scumteam, would you pick one over the other? I'm thinking silver over Shining, although both of their behaviors are similar to the games I have played with them in.

Do you feel like you might be tunneling Shining?


I think you've gotten muddled up, both those people have posted since then. Silver has posted a WOT that I don't feel is strong. The Shining has aggroed on me. If I am honest I wouldn't say either of them were lurkers, per se,

I wouldn't say I'm tunnelling Shining right now. I haven't constructed a case yet - I am leaving that quite deliberately. As the person who entered Day 2 with the most scum reads, I shouldn't be generating cases right now.

What I want to do now is sleep and give people room to post for 8-12 hours. I have opinions, but I would rather people came to independent conclusions. It's easy for scum to refute conclusions, less easy to drive their own agenda.

Having said that, I'd love a loose read from you once you've combed through everything. You are a town read, but your thought processes are somewhat alien to me. I need to understand where you are coming from more I think. Night night
ElyAs
Profile Joined December 2009
France205 Posts
February 18 2015 23:48 GMT
#900
I don't know. I really don't. Your play has been consistent with what you said in the beginning (about voting analysis and hunting inconsistences) and your case on Tere is also consistent. But I'm not moving with my read on Tere, so you're either misguided town or scum in my eyes. For now I can't decide so slight scum.

zlefin asked for a list of reads, here it is :

Townish : Trfel, Tere, ElyAs
Null : JJB (need to filter dive), zlefin (want to filter dive too, my earlier scumread on you feels misguided to me.)
Slight scumread : The Shining
Scummy : Silverarte.

I really want to finish filter diving before casting my vote, but if I don't find a better lynch I'm okay with lynching Silver.

It's getting late, I'll have more tomorrow.
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